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There’s nothing to reply to in that video. I particularly like how he insults golfers while creating a video for them. It’s puzzling.

That doesn't matter, and you missed the point that the rules say nothing about the ball being at rest. You don't know where "the rules don't say that, they say this" is coming from? Oh man.

Would you believe nearly $8M?

I made it just over 4:00 into that one before I had to bail. I didn't even make it to the part you're talking about.

The rules don't say that. The player holes out or the player’s next stroke is conceded, or They say that. They say nothing about the ball being at rest, and if the player never needs to make "the next stroke," then… I can concede the next shot while the ball is in the air. Doesn't mean that if it comes to rest for half a second before rolling into the hole, I can claim that the player made a 4 not a 3. Or one second. Or five seconds.

I have to be quick about it (I may re-visit it later), but your sand wedge is often the heaviest club in the bag, and the driver the lightest. So that plays a role in the MOI calculations… as I don't think the radius to the COM varies as much as you may think.

Someone should hop in quick and sell the golfers who like that dumb guy's video an "Elite Moves Training Series" for five easy payments of $79.99. I see the tag line now: "In this video series, you'll learn the elite moves that pro golfers make, with a workout specifically targeting each of them, including: lifting your arms up like you're putting on a polo or a t-shirt lowering your arm to your side like you're setting a coffee mug down on a table. pivoting like when you have to get something from the back seat of your car shifting pressure forward by flexing your knee a little bit, then extending it a little bit These are workouts you can do in your daily lives, in as little as no extra time per day, since you already do these things all the time, and they're not that difficult at all. Forget grasping new concepts and immediately getting better at golf; that's not for you. You're not an elite Tour player, and the last time you set down a coffee mug you probably missed the table, so these videos are for YOU!"

Well that puts an end to my attempts to try to lead people to the answer. So, yes, if a ball is at rest, pick it up to concede it if you think there’s a one in a million chance the wind will blow it in. 🤣

Improving GRF can absolutely, as you say, improve accuracy. Pivot stalls show up on plates, for example, and are often disastrous for accuracy. People who admit they know nothing about how the golf swing works and never will should post more questions or read more, not post their crackpot theories based on three points of anecdata or what they hope is true.

It may be key, but those pics are also grips that have made instructors a lot of money.

No, you haven't. What's the player's score given those time frames? That's all I'm asking for: the score. Yes it was. That's all they had to go by. What they think they could see from 100 yards away. Assuming that was the player's second shot, did he make 2 or 3? Great. What if the ball comes to rest for ten seconds, and then goes in? How about five? Two? At what point would you, having this brought to you, count the player's score as 3 rather than 2?

So AMG is not using Tyler's definition for it, they're using it as shorthand for what they demonstrated. No? When you wipe your behind, are you also using the term "wipe" to do just as he explains? I would say not, because he says it's getting your hands out in front of your body, but that's the wrong side of your body for that task! But, but, but… 🤣 Again: people can have their own opinions. They don't get their own facts. For someone who "doesn't know and never will" how the golf swing works, he has a lot of (unfounded) opinions on how the golf swing works. Insulting and intellectually dishonest. Indeed. See my list earlier. 🙂 He may be better at that sport than golf. One like wasn't enough, so you got a reply as well. Kudos, @PedronNiall. And thank you.

If only they had videos showing their lessons with real students… I've seen multiple lessons in their Orlando location, and none of the golfers were over the age of 35 or so. Maybe 40 covers all of them if one in particular looked young for his age.

You did not. There's no way for them to truly "know." So did he hole out with the 100-yard shot or not? Does your answer change as the number grows, and what's your support in the Rules of Golf for the time limit you decide on? What if the ball is beside the hole where it's a little easier to see motion than behind the hole where we can't always tell if the ball is rolling directly toward us? Look, on one hand I think this is an incredibly rare situation as holes are almost never cut on 6%+ slopes that are almost required to get a ball to begin rolling again. But, I don't think the answer is as clear as some have stated. I think you can still make a case for the player having holed out with the previous stroke. There's no agreement. It's someone thinking the ball might have stopped and conceding the next shot, then the ball goes in. There's no discussion. Answer the question. That's why I've asked. The same rule that covers a 10-foot putt everyone has a close up look at also covers this type of situation. So how would you rule, and would it change if the time was more than one second, how much more, and what Rule are you using to justify it? Right… They can't KNOW it was "actually" at rest. In stroke play, if you hit a shot from 100 yards and walk up to the green and it begins moving as you set your bag down 40 yards away… it counts as holed. So the Rules support, one could argue, that the next stroke is conceded… if it's needed. Johnny Cochran voice: "The stroke can only be conceded if it's actually needed!" (That's my devil's advocate argument, I think similar to @antip but I've not re-read his posts in detail, so maybe not.)