Skipperation

Here's a link to all the Maltby numbers; https://www.golfworks.com/head-mpf-ratings/?srsltid=AfmBOopR26eG4HhIsmbF-KXQydBW0mNUds4lwZFTduRZ6szBsSJd07eH Interesting reading but I'd take with a pinch of salt as there are lots of obviously very weird anomalies in there including some old clubs with negative ratings (not sure how that is possible?!). It does support my theory about the 695MBs though as they have a higher MPF rating than all of Titleist's recent blades or forged cavity backs and even above all the irons from Srixon's Z/ZX/Zxi 7 series irons ............. But according to Maltby your MP14s are easier to hit than virtually of Mizuno's forged cavities from in and around the MP64 era so who knows what's actually correct?!

I haven't seen the S3 in person so can't be 100% but my interpretation of the OP which I agree with is that generally Mizuno CB's (and Titleist etc) now all have a footprint far closer to a blade than they previously had. Yes you can look at where the weight is placed in the cavity etc and they might look similar but it really comes down to what it looks like at address. Nearly all of the modern forged CB's I've seen have a shorter blade length, thinner topline and less offset than the older Mizuno CB's referred to here such as MP64, MP52 etc. and therefore feel less forgiving in many respects.

Interesting point. Can't say I've hit many of the newer Mizuno CB's but I play the MP 20's (which I love) and go PW-6 in blades and then into the HMB 5-3 as the MMCs didn't launch any higher or feel anymore forgiving than the blades in the longer irons. Would like to go CB in the 6 too but HMB sole is too big. Lofts on MMC felt too low and topline just as thin as the blade so didn't boost confidence that I could get it up in the air. Don't think it's just Mizuno that have fallen into this trap either, Titleist CBs are basically blades in size and profile now too. Feel like manufacturers have listened to a few of those that shout the loudest too much so have all gone thin topline/no offset which although might sound great really isn't very good for most. CB's therefore feel like they've been squeezed so much now that if you don't like a pure blade you'll be forced into a hollow iron of some sort with low lofts and quick faces. I think this might be why the recent Srixon CB's have been so popular, slightly larger footprint, thicker/more confident boosting topline and genuine forgiveness, a proper forged cavity back. I also like the idea/way they used to do the slightly more forgiving, larger blade every now and then like you point out. Haven't hit the MP5 to my fault but reckon the Titleist 695MB (not dissimilar in size) is the most forgiving blade I've ever hit, new Titleist blades look like scalpels in comparison. Quite alot of older blades were actually quite big in reality compared to blades now. As long ago as TP19 even spring to mind. Recent Mizuno blades although all in their own right look great imo seem very very similar. New S1 might offer slightly different CG with high muscle ala MP5 (but smaller) but other than the finish, the profile at address looks basically the same again.....though they do look very nice.

What flex Steelfiber shafts is he using?

*Zac