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Your logic about ball selection makes sense to me. I stopped playing the Maxfli ball for a while and went back to the Callaway Chrome Soft, but when the new (2025) version of the Maxfli Tour S was released, I got tempted because I read that they increased the compression a bit which to me meant more spin, which I really needed. They also have a decent price when purchased in bulk so I think I will be sticking with the Tour S for a while.

The weather here has been brutally hot so I have not been out for a round lately. However, I did do a little putting and 7-iron indoor testing with the Speedsoft and my gamer the Maxfli Tour S. Results as follows: Putting - definitely a more muted feeling off the putter (Evnroll) and definitely a softer feeling. As I have stated before, I think it's just a matter of commitment and getting used to the new feeling of the Speedsoft. I can't say it's better or worse than the Tour S, just different. 7-iron - I expected to see some distance advantage with the Speedsoft, but I really didn't. I can't even say that it felt softer than the Tour S. I honestly did not really see any advantage performance wise for the Speedsoft. I paid particular attention to those performance numbers where the swing speeds were pretty close and I'd give the nod to the Tour S on spin numbers and perhaps a slightly high launch angle with the Speedsoft, but distance wise, nada. Right now, the only advantage I see in the Speedsoft comes down to price. I should be able to compare performance numbers later this week when I play 18 holes and able to compare the Speedsoft to the Tour S OUTDOORS.

I think you nailed it. The drive affects the psyche and that can have a positive or negative impact on the way you play... hence your results. This is especially true when your playing partners are driving the ball 20, 30, 40, or 50 yards further than you. Brings tension into the game when you try to make up for it with your 2nd shot. As a senior golfer who has never been a long hitter, it doesn't have that affect on me because I'm more surprised when I'm not the shortest with the driver, which does happen, just not very often. I've learned to play "my" game rather than my playing partner's game. Consequently, it comes down to chipping and putting which I rely on to be what most affects my score. If I can look at par from anywhere on the green, I at least feel like I have a chance at par.

FYI - I have no way to confirm this.. but found this in the comments section of another review of the Speedsoft. Tried the ink and loved it, so next round tried a white speedsoft, totally different feel! on investigation I found that the ink is manufactured in Korea, the white in China, and the yellow in Taiwan! So effectively three different balls and three different feels. Not complaining as I’m happy to use the ink, but ……. Anyway to confirm this? I purchased the ink green version for testing.

I have to admit that most of the ball comparisons that I've done is with urethan to urethane rather than urethane to non-urethane. As with any ball change, I think there is always an adjustment period where you just need to get used to the feel of the ball and the way it reacts to different shots. I'm really anxious to see how it plays off the driver. I have a hitting bay in my basement so I'm going to do some iron comparison shots tomorrow, but hitting into a net and hitting on a course are two different things. I would never make a decision based on hitting into a net. I like to see the flight of the ball before deciding. One short game session is not nearly enough to reach a final decision, but I saw enough that makes me want to consider the Speedsoft, since I've had a preference for a softer ball. Being a slow swing speed player, I like to feel like I'm compressing the ball with the driver and irons even if it doesn't result in more distance.

I'm in Omaha too and I don't know what retailer you purchased from, but I bought mine directly from Titleist and they were shipped overnight to me. Seems strange that the retailer could not provide you with overnight service.

I picked up a dozen TM Speedsoft this morning and did some short-game pitching and putting with it and my gamer Maxfli Tour S. Initial impressions are good, not great. I found the Tour S much easier to control but this may be because I know how it's going to react. One thing that surprised me is that the Speedsoft did not feel any softer than the Maxfli with the wedge or the putter. Especially considering the difference in compression (<50 for the Speedsoft and 85 for the Tour S). What I can't explain is that I did find the short putts easier to make with the TM - I purchased the green ink version instead of the white and I'm normally a purist and only play white balls. I'm guessing the putting difference is attributable to the fact that the Speedsoft seemed go a little further with the same putting stroke. I didn't see a noticeable difference when hitting chips into the green. The rollout was pretty much the same. I think I've got to see how the Speedsoft compares with driving and irons before deciding on whether it would be a better fit for my game than the Tour S. Right now, I'd have to give the edge to the Tour S but this may simply be because I've been playing it for a few months. One other thing, the TM Speedsoft is currently on sale at Golf Galaxy for $ 22.50 a dozen. I paid $ 29.75 a dozen for the Tour S. I seldom lose a ball so the difference in price is not an issue for me. I'll post my comments about driving and iron play after my next round.

Thanks for sharing. My swing speed with driver is probably between 75 - 80 and I found the Triad to be shorter than my then gamer the Callaway Chrome Soft. I've played the Q Star Tour, Tour Soft and Tour Response and discounted them because they were shorter with the driver than the Chrome Soft. A few months ago I switched to the Maxfli Tour S which is both longer than the Chrome Soft with the driver, but also has better spin characteristics on approach shots than the Chrome Soft. Based on @ScooterMcTavish info, I'm definitely going to try the TM Speedsoft. I probably don't warrant using a "tour" level ball but I do need the spin when hitting into greens with irons or wedge since my short game is the key to lower scores since my GIR's are typically around 25-35% per round. Price is not a consideration for me, but the Maxfli's are probably one of the best prices when purchased in the 4 dozen pack.

Received my T350's spec'd the same as the T350 2023 version, which I still have. Only able to do a little testing with the 9 iron only. A little surprised to see very little difference in performance between the 2023 and 2025 version. I kind of expected to see a little more height or spin or both, but they are virtually identical. More testing required to identify differences and move on to the 7 iron and 5 iron to see if they show any differences.

Here's a link to a guy that pretty much focuses on golf balls. He recently did a review of 3 of the balls that you looked at. Interestingly, he liked one of them because of the driving distance that you rated pretty low. I think he was reviewing the latest iteration of the ball and stated that the previous version was subpar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzkMyywUP6o?si=pzlH6PvkRJ8k4_vn

While I haven't tracked my SG, this pretty much sums up what I would expect if I did. Driver is annoying sometimes, but hardly ever affects my score. In other words, I never look back at a round and say, boy, if only I could have driven the ball another 10 yards. As opposed to, dang, I missed 3 putts less than 5 feet or chipping just left me too far from the hole for a 1-putt to save par on 2 or 3 holes.

I'm just like you... very OCD when it comes to the ball and clubs. I clean both after every shot and will only play one ball per round whether it's 9 or 18 holes. If I get any damage to the ball that I even remotely suspect will affect the trajectory, I just swap it out. I have a grab bag of balls that I've retired from play. With regard to the balls you recommended - e6 vs Speedsoft - I think I see a little advantage to driving with the e6, but the iron and wedge would favor the Speedsoft. For me, it's going to come down to which one feels the best off the putter and responds accordingly. I'm going to pick up a dozen of each tomorrow and share with an employee of mine. My plan is to play both the Tour S and the either the Speedsoft or e6 during the round. I'll pick out 4 holes (typically a par 3, 2 par 4's, and one par 5) and play best ball from tee to green with both balls. I play pretty quickly so hitting two balls generally will not be an issue for me. My playing partners know that I do this from time to time and they are good with it. My grading process is a little more straight forward. I give the ball that performed the best a 2 and the one that performed second best a 1. And I score every shot. I figure over the course of playing 4 holes over the course of about 20 shots/putts with each ball (assuming bogey on every hole), I'll be able to judge which one performed best. I break it down like you do into 4 categories - drives, irons, approaches, and putting. If it's too close to call, I'll add another 1 or 2 holes. I'll let you know my results but it won't happen till next week as we are having a really hot streak of weather and we don't tee it up again until 5 days from now.

According to what I've read, the compression of the Tour S in the 2025 version is comparable to what the Tour was in the 2023 version. Might want to check the chart for the Tour until MGS releases their new ball evaluations, which is coming in the next couple weeks. I've been playing the Tour S (2025) and it does seem to spin more and is holding more greens with less run out. But I'm also seeing a bit more curve on my drives. I've got a natural (if there is such a thing) baby fade with my driver and I've learned to use it to my advantage. With the new Tour S, I've got to move my target line a bit more to the left to fade it back to my landing target. Doesn't seem to bother iron shots at all.

What an enjoyable read. You've obviously devoted some serious time and money to your evaluations and I would like to thank you. I can see some definite advantages to playing a 2-piece non-urethane ball, but right now my gamer is the Maxfli Tour S. This is about an 85 compression ball and has performed very well for me. However, I can see some definite advantages to moving to a 2-piece ball that might help my scoring. Of the balls that you have evaluated so far, I think the TM Speed Soft might be the one that I would try first. Will definitely report back with my comparison numbers. With the price of these 2-piece balls, it's probably not worth adding a column in your chart for durability but some might be interested in that as helping with the selection process. In my case, I only play a ball for one round so the durability factor is not important to me.

Probably the closest to what I've seen is the right answer. With me, if I'm hitting my wedges that day, I can save par on those short drives, even if my irons are not working that day.

Not sure I can agree with this; however, I can understand if your driving is so erratic that you might duff a number of drives that can add a shot to each of those holes. But the same is true of putting where you can be on the green in regulation and 3 putt. I can use my last round as an example where my drives were all descent. Not a long hitter so let's say 180 - 200 yards. However, I had at least 4 or 5 chances to save par with a 1-putt. However, I missed those short putts and had to settle for a bogey. In my case, putting made all the difference and added 4 or 5 strokes to that round.

Just received my T350's and although I was only able to hit a few practice balls with the clubs, they felt really solid. Specs are the same as my prior version of T350's but these just felt much more stable. I have a launch monitor so I will be comparing them tonight after work to see what the real differences are. Maybe an outdoor range session tomorrow. I must say, they look and feel much more substantial than the 2023 version.

I made a decision a few rounds back that the reason my irons were not reliable was because I wasn't using them enough, so I now only play a wood or hybrid off the tee (typically on par 3's or very short par 4's) or 2nd shots on par 5's; otherwise, I will use an iron even if I know I won't get close to the green with it. For example, in my round yesterday, I hit my driver, which was in play, but had 176 to the green. I don't have an iron in my bag that will let me reach the green since I'm 77 years old and not a long hitter. I hit my 5-iron which got me about 50 yards from the green. Pulled my Ping 54* wedge and put the ball within 6 feet of the pin and knocked it in for a par. This is very typical of my game. My iron play has improved considerably and my confidence with them has also improved. My limited practice time consists primarily of chipping and putting. Still I am still working, I don't really have time to practice anything else. Focusing on the short game keeps my score in the low to mid 80's with an occasional score in the upper 70's.

I can really relate to this. When my wedges are on, they can make up for all my other flaws. If my drive is 50 yards off the normal distance, I can usually make up for it with a wood or iron, but the wedge is what can turn a poor drive into an up-and-down to save par.

Before you answer this question, I want to suggest a way to determine which one would affect your score the most. In my game, the wedge is the most significant club in my bag. I could easily swap my driver with another brand that is spec'd the same and it probably wouldn't affect my game at all. I could easily make up for an distance loss by simply using a wood or iron to make up for the affects of the driver switch. While the putter is a club that I depend on to save me shots, having changed it more than any other club in my bag, my putting stats really haven't changed much. I'm normally 1.7 to 1.8 putters per hole for a round of golf. My distances with woods and irons do not vary much when I swap these out. I have 3 sets of irons and 2 sets of woods and I can interchange these with little to no affect. So in my case, my wedges are critical to my game. I've changed them to 3 or 4 different brands and I see more affect on my game than changing any other club. I don't use set wedges because I wanted to be able to change irons without affecting my wedge performance. Currently, I'm using the Ping S159 wedges and they are excellent.

I think the new Tour S is a little firmer than the prior version. However, I really don't notice the difference. I've tried both the Q Star Tour and the AVX and I personally feel the Tour S is a better ball in terms of performance, durability, and of course, price. Especially, when you buy the 4 dozen pack. My previous gamer was the Callaway Chrome Soft. I really liked it and it performed well for me, but they didn't seem to hold up like the Tour S. I also think it's much easier to hold greens on approach shots because of the better spin characteristics. The final thing that I really like about the Tour S is the feel off the putter. It's firm but provides enough feedback that you know if you mishit it. I think my putting with the new version is better than with the old version and I attribute that to the slight increase in compression. Using the Tour S, my distance control with the putter is hard to beat. If you haven't tried the newest version, you might give it a go and see what you think.

Sorry, didn't realize you were from Australia. Yes, the US site allows you to customize your specs. If you want different specs for different clubs, you'd just have to order them separately.

You can now ordered directly on the Titleist website and make these adjustments. I adjusted the lie angle and shaft length and selected a custom shaft.

I'll post an update as soon as I've had a chance to play them. I have the 2023 model currently so I'm anxious to compare them.

Ordered custom (shaft and lie adjustments) T350 on July 16, just received delivery notice for tomorrow (July 22). Excited.