Snarkesor

lol watch any of Tyler’s videos on the wipe move.

In other words the “wipe” move

The real problem with the AMG the video is that they are denigrating the "wipe" move as being something simply like shoving the arms forwards linearly, when Tyler Ferrell who coined the wipe term, has always been explicit that it occurs along with rotation and is not simply a linear movement. Are they really suggesting that the arms don't extend through the release?

Just not enough rotation. Throwing the arms. I’d be interested in a face-on.

The comparison photo with Scott is useful. I think OP is right to want to address his posture. Notice how compared to Scott, OP has a big bump in his upper back, as he’s essentially just dumped his thoracic spine into flexion to get down to the ball. Scott, on the other hand has hinged his hips, which created more of a neutral spine at address, and is also what is going to get your hip bones over your ankles as someone pointed out. Learning to hinge the hips properly can be tricky and lack of hip hinge can be related to a some different postural and mobility issues. Lots of good videos on YouTube on the subject.

My instructor said that 99% of the time he knows what the pressure trace will look like from just observing a student’s swing. He also says that because there are a variety of ways to move one’s pressure as recorded by the plates, they are of limited use. You have to show the student the right way to move, not just say “get more pressure forward” or whatever the case may be. There’s an entire kinetic chain.

I suppose setup could be a root cause, but these are pretty different positions.

Like I said earlier on in the thread, this isn’t something I’d ever consider actually doing on the course. I’m just interested in what the rules say about it.

You’d be surprised. Something about actually throwing the ball makes it work in ways that just doing the motion doesn’t.

The lead elbow doesn’t ever supinate. Its movement is controlled by shoulder rotation. So much of the misunderstanding in the release comes down to not seeing the difference between forearm supination and shoulder external rotation. The goal is to supinate while keeping the shoulder internally rotated.

So do found objects on the golf course like rocks, or acorns, or dirt clumps not count as equipment? Acorn or dirt clump would work. A tee really wouldn’t really give that good release feeling that works for me. Anyways I’m not trying to be “that guy” throwing things on the course. Just interested in the rules.

Yeah I mean to be clear, this isn’t something I actually think one should be allowed to do, and it would be obnoxious for one’s playing partners. Just wondering if the rules contemplate this kind of situation.

What first part? Where the rules explicitly carve out an exception for the ball? Lol

This looks relevant: 4.3a. Allowed and Prohibited Uses of Equipment A player may use equipment to help his or her play during a round, except that a player must not create a potential advantage by: Using equipment (other than a club or a ball) that artificially eliminates or reduces the need for a skill or judgment that is essential to the challenge of the game, or Using equipment (including a club or a ball) in an abnormal way in making a stroke. “Abnormal way” means a way that is fundamentally different than its intended use and is not normally recognized as part of playing the game. This Rule does not affect the application of any other Rule that limits actions a player is allowed to take with a club, ball, device or other equipment (such as setting down a club or other object to help the player in lining up, see Rule 10.2b(3)). *** BUT…. The rule says “using equipment in an abnormal way in making a stroke” I’m not making a stroke here.

5.2 Practising on Course Before or Between Rounds “Practising on the course” means playing a ball from anywhere or testing the surface of the putting green of any hole by rolling a ball or rubbing the surface.” ** I don’t see how throwing a ball at the ground is playing a ball.

What’s the specific rule?

I took a lesson recently and my instructor found that the old ball throwing drill does some really good things for my swing. (See attached video from my lesson) Surely it would be very annoying for my playing partners, but just out of curiosity I’m wondering if there is there anything in the rules against me doing this with a spare ball I keep in my pocket before a shot during a round? I know 13.1e says you aren’t allowed to roll another ball on the green, but I can’t seem to find anything that says that throwing a golf ball as part of your practice would be against any rule. IMG_8916.mov