Confessions of Ignorance: Share your Confusion as a Rookie WRX'er

[DeNinny]

[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422332621' post='10825605']
DeNinja, thanks for replying about cosmology and the creation of matter, but that was like 5 pages ago, so I'll only say that I have heard the first few seconds of the big bang described as a process of 'condensation', which always cofused me. Cut to the chase, with my own very very limited brain power, I have also always thought the 'standard model' was woefully inadequate and inaccrate in some way, and recently I have heard other physicists are coming to the same conclusions.

If I ever come to the PNW again, we must play a round, and it may become a GEEK fest (I'm a chemist by trade).

OK, one last thing, this about the SWING. Right elbow tucked against the side (top of BS, transition, and down into impact), or let it seperate and fly a bit (a la Freddie)?
[/quote]

Yeah I would gather that condensation was in fact the energy you mentioned converting to matter. I did not realize they used condensation for describing that phase. The term makes sense because as soon as massless particles (bosons) create particles with mass (fermions), then the process of gravity can start. That may be the beginning of condensation, as you mentioned.

What I understand from my limited understanding of the physics is that the math of the Higgs field plugs some (if not all) of the holes in the standard model's accuracy. But I only know this from Nova and Discovery Channel shows and some online research. My expertise stops at the atom and no smaller. (I'm a Chem E so yes we would and could and should geek out!)

I am a tucked elbow guy myself. It pretty much points at my right hip throughout the entire backswing and down into the hit.

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1422333820' post='10825729']
[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422332621' post='10825605']
DeNinja, thanks for replying about cosmology and the creation of matter, but that was like 5 pages ago, so I'll only say that I have heard the first few seconds of the big bang described as a process of 'condensation', which always cofused me. Cut to the chase, with my own very very limited brain power, I have also always thought the 'standard model' was woefully inadequate and inaccrate in some way, and recently I have heard other physicists are coming to the same conclusions.

If I ever come to the PNW again, we must play a round, and it may become a GEEK fest (I'm a chemist by trade).

OK, one last thing, this about the SWING. Right elbow tucked against the side (top of BS, transition, and down into impact), or let it seperate and fly a bit (a la Freddie)?
[/quote]

Yeah I would gather that condensation was in fact the energy you mentioned converting to matter. I did not realize they used condensation for describing that phase. The term makes sense because as soon as massless particles (bosons) create particles with mass (fermions), then the process of gravity can start. That may be the beginning of condensation, as you mentioned.

What I understand from my limited understanding of the physics is that the math of the Higgs field plugs some (if not all) of the holes , in the standard model's accuracy. But I only know this from Nova and Discovery Channel shows and some online research. My expertise stops at the atom and no smaller. (I'm a Chem E so yes we would and could and should geek out!)

I am a tucked elbow guy myself. It pretty much points at my right hip throughout the entire backswing and down into the hit.
[/quote]

Dang, still TOOLed. Geez, DeNinja, you and Thug need to grab Gaucho
and hit the links! Gaucho is down in Temecula. I'm still amazed at the
variety of WRXers!!

[DeNinny]

[quote name='Conrad1953' timestamp='1422335405' post='10825829']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1422333820' post='10825729']
[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422332621' post='10825605']
DeNinja, thanks for replying about cosmology and the creation of matter, but that was like 5 pages ago, so I'll only say that I have heard the first few seconds of the big bang described as a process of 'condensation', which always cofused me. Cut to the chase, with my own very very limited brain power, I have also always thought the 'standard model' was woefully inadequate and inaccrate in some way, and recently I have heard other physicists are coming to the same conclusions.

If I ever come to the PNW again, we must play a round, and it may become a GEEK fest (I'm a chemist by trade).

OK, one last thing, this about the SWING. Right elbow tucked against the side (top of BS, transition, and down into impact), or let it seperate and fly a bit (a la Freddie)?
[/quote]

Yeah I would gather that condensation was in fact the energy you mentioned converting to matter. I did not realize they used condensation for describing that phase. The term makes sense because as soon as massless particles (bosons) create particles with mass (fermions), then the process of gravity can start. That may be the beginning of condensation, as you mentioned.

What I understand from my limited understanding of the physics is that the math of the Higgs field plugs some (if not all) of the holes , in the standard model's accuracy. But I only know this from Nova and Discovery Channel shows and some online research. My expertise stops at the atom and no smaller. (I'm a Chem E so yes we would and could and should geek out!)

I am a tucked elbow guy myself. It pretty much points at my right hip throughout the entire backswing and down into the hit.
[/quote]

Dang, still TOOLed. Geez, DeNinja, you and Thug need to grab Gaucho
and hit the links! Gaucho is down in Temecula. I'm still amazed at the
variety of WRXers!!
[/quote]
Gaucho would pwn me on the links and the chalkboard. Just shoot me now.

[Reasonability]

Two guys enter a New Your bar to order a Manhattan but they don't speak the local language. So they concoct a plan. One will draw a map and circle Manhattan while the other will act
[size=2]If you operate from the premise that the space from the sternum to the ball is a space filled up with your arms and the cub, then it follows that TURN of the shoulders should be perpendicular to the spine so that the club will return properly and provide a[/size]

as a mime to assist. The bartender approaches the artist goes to work sketching on a napkin while the mime encircles his hands around a pretend glass, Holds it to his lips, then winks
[size=1][size=2]consistent bottom of the arc. That said, if you glide the handle right in front of the chest as deeply as you can right in front of the chest you will add even further support to a simple turn around your spine and consistent bottom of the swing arc.[/size][/size]

and holds up two fingers with a smile. Soon the bartender returns with one Manhattan and makes a gesture for the mime to join him in a back room. As the one patron finishes his drink
[size=2]If you keep the distance from the hands and chest as constant as possible this even further leads to consistency. If the knees don't add or lose their flex and the hips are allowed to turn under the shoulders properly - then AGAIN your are keeping it[/size]


his buddy soon emerges from the back room. With the one and only drink having been consumed, they consider trying to order again. The mime says, "OK but it YOUR turn to be the
[size=2]very simple, rotational, and consistent., That brand of arm flow will (with practice in a DTL mirror) allow you to land the club with a straight lead arm, a shaft that is NOT across the line, a right elbow that is essentially UNDER the handle, a flat lead wrist, [/size]

mime. And trust me, you'll be far better off if you only hold up ONE finger this time." I thought you fellas might enjoy a little story this evening and as you notice I have found a way to
[size=2][size=1]and a clubface that is parallel to the lead forearm. That forearm will also appear (DTL mirror) to almost run right through or just above the right shoulder. So THERE is where I personally land the right elbow - basically UNDER the handle.[/size][/size]

cave into the pressure of discussing a few things.... It was getting to me and hyper ventilating was setting in. This was written with one hand on a paper sack. LOL.
[size=2]And this account for the right knee as well - flexed consistently and hovering just inside the right instep until post - impact. The right elbow itself needs to lead the hands into impact and pass the right hip through the strike,.[/size]

[Michael C.]

[quote name='Reasonability' timestamp='1422335705' post='10825845']
Two guys enter a New Your bar to order a Manhattan but they don't speak the local language. So they concoct a plan. One will draw a map and circle Manhattan while the other will act
[size=2]If you operate from the premise that the space from the sternum to the ball is a space filled up with your arms and the cub, then it follows that TURN of the shoulders should be perpendicular to the spine so that the club will return properly and provide a[/size]

as a mime to assist. The bartender approaches the artist goes to work sketching on a napkin while the mime encircles his hands around a pretend glass, Holds it to his lips, then winks
[size=1][size=2]consistent bottom of the arc. That said, if you glide the handle right in front of the chest as deeply as you can right in front of the chest you will add even further support to a simple turn around your spine and consistent bottom of the swing arc.[/size][/size]

and holds up two fingers with a smile. Soon the bartender returns with one Manhattan and makes a gesture for the mime to join him in a back room. As the one patron finishes his drink
[size=2]If you keep the distance from the hands and chest as constant as possible this even further leads to consistency. If the knees don't add or lose their flex and the hips are allowed to turn under the shoulders properly - then AGAIN your are keeping it[/size]


his buddy soon emerges from the back room. With the one and only drink having been consumed, they consider trying to order again. The mime says, "OK but it YOUR turn to be the
[size=2]very simple, rotational, and consistent., That brand of arm flow will (with practice in a DTL mirror) allow you to land the club with a straight lead arm, a shaft that is NOT across the line, a right elbow that is essentially UNDER the handle, a flow lead wrist, [/size]

mime. And trust me, you'll be far better off if you only hole up ONE finger this time." I thought you fellas might enjoy a little story this evening and as you notice I have found a way to
[size=2][size="1"]and a clubface that is parallel to the lead forearm. That forearm will also appear (DTL mirror) to almost run right through or just above the right shoulder. So THERE is where I personally land the right elbow - basically UNDER the handle.[/size][/size]

cave into the pressure of discussing a few things.... It was getting to me and hyper ventilating was setting in. This was written with one hand on a paper sack. LOL.
[size=2]And this account for the right knee as well - flexed consistently and hovering just inside the right instep until post - impact. The right elbow itself needs to lead the hands through impact and pass the right hip through the strike,.[/size]
[/quote]

Haha - Beautifully done, Judge!! Great story. Thankfully, I had my glasses. Teehee

[thug the bunny]

The reason I posted the right elbow question is that I have forever vascillated between some version of tucked (as you said pointing down to the right hip) and letting it seperate at the top, and bring it down into the right hip during the downswing. In letting it fly, I absolutely destroy the ball. We're talking almost WRX long. But, I always invariably start fading, which turns into a strong fade, which turns into a slice, etc, etc. Then, I will go back to tucking the elbow, and hit nice strong mini draws. Beautiful. Everything is clicking. Then, some pulls, which lead to pull draws, which become pull hooks, etc, etc. Then, go back to letting the elbow come loose a little, and start the whole process over again....I have the same process with tempo, plane, grip, path, and plane. I am hopelessly caught in the process of finding which of my multitude of swings will work for the present. But, guess what? I love this game no matter where I am at the moment. I can honestly say if I shoot a 77, I'm very happy; if I shoot an 88 I'm also very happy. OK, I fibbed a bit on that last one....

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='Reasonability' timestamp='1422305446' post='10822561']
vater - just in case you've not heard of "sucking heads" (perhaps you have) it's a term for eating little bug-like animals found in the wetlands not too far from Rad's home base. Those who fry and boil them up enjoy stirring them up in a big pot with all sorts of recipes - then they literally bite the heads off of these little critters and suck their guts out of their little carcass. They gather in mass (things like the superbowl for one) and "suck heads" to their hearts delight! This is a rough explanation of it - but that's pretty much the size of it at the end of the day.

It falls into one of categories of dining TOTALLY lost on me but for those who enjoy it.... they wouldn't have it any other way. To me - Lobster, crawfish, oysters, squid, sushi, anything served with its head and eyes still on it.... no thanks. I want my plate filled with something that looks like its been through a lot of preparing to turn it into FOOD. If I wanted that other stuff I'd just sit outside and snatch any creature that happens by and eat his arse raw right there on the spot. LOL.
[/quote]

LOL, I don't eat anything with the eyes still. Lobster TAILS, TAILS, TAILS!!!!!!
I won't eat lobster the way they do in the northeast. And crab, LEGS, LEGS
LEGS!!! I don't eat crab EYES!!! or Lobster EYES!!!

I did go with the Yangs to a 'real' Chinese restaurant in Monterey Park, CA
once. As an appetizer, we were served a Halibut skeleton, breaded, and
deep fried. Eat it like potato chips. And I did eat a pigeon head there that
night. It was on a lazy susan and our host turned it toward me to eat the
head. It was an honor thing so I had to eat it!! LOL! Chew fast and swallow;
thankfully it was crispy and I thought about something else as I ate it.

Oh, and everything was soaked in garlic. I like garlic, but not THAT much
and not on EVERYTHING!! Whew.

I'll stay with the 'merican chinese restaurants, thank you very much....and
'merican pizza too for that matter.

I WILL NOT eat EYES ever again!!

[thug the bunny]

[quote]
[size="1"]So THERE is where I personally land the right elbow - basically UNDER the handle.[/size]
[/quote]

Totally agree. The Riight elbow has to be under the 'plane of glass' and the handle. But, you can let it seperate at the top (again, a la Freddie), and then bring it down and 'tuck' it. Just wondering about yous guys thoughts on it.

See, I am so much more comfortable talking swing thoughts with this bunch than on the other forum, where I would get answers like: "You have to have the center of gravity pivoting around the major axis during the transition from P3 to AXQ5E2 through the power leverage of the secondary lever so that the delivery of the clubhead is routed into the primary plane".

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='Reasonability' timestamp='1422304618' post='10822437']
[quote name='Conrad1953' timestamp='1422303802' post='10822315']
Dang, duty calls. Must depart beautiful Moriarty, NM and
head on toward Vegas and then Reno. Work IS a curse;
would rather golf and hang with my friends on WRX.
[/quote]

Happy trails. Something to consider on the road....

You're a no-bugs guy. Don't they "suck heads" and such in your part of the world? Just asking - not "judging". LOL
[/quote]

No, it's not big here, lol. Love Cajun Crawfish Etouffee but it's just
the crawfish meat, not the rest. Prefer gulf shrimp, peel and eat
(with the head already removed, lol) dip it in cocktail sauce.

You're mixing us up with the Louisiana folk. Now, those bubbas
are different. Fill up the bathtub with live crawfish!! Jace, lol!

[thug the bunny]

[quote]
Chew fast and swallow;
thankfully it was crispy and I thought about something else as I ate it.

[/quote]

InQuiring minds need to know; what were you thinking about Rad?

I guess crab brains are a no go?

Edit: had to turn the q into Q

[DeNinny]

[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422336045' post='10825865']
The reason I posted the right elbow question is that I have forever vascillated between some version of tucked (as you said pointing down to the right hip) and letting it seperate at the top, and bring it down into the right hip during the downswing. In letting it fly, I absolutely destroy the ball. We're talking almost WRX long. But, I always invariably start fading, which turns into a strong fade, which turns into a slice, etc, etc. Then, I will go back to tucking the elbow, and hit nice strong mini draws. Beautiful. Everything is clicking. Then, some pulls, which lead to pull draws, which become pull hooks, etc, etc. Then, go back to letting the elbow come loose a little, and start the whole process over again....I have the same process with tempo, plane, grip, path, and plane. I am hopelessly caught in the process of finding which of my multitude of swings will work for the present. But, guess what? I love this game no matter where I am at the moment. I can honestly say if I shoot a 77, I'm very happy; if I shoot an 88 I'm also very happy. OK, I fibbed a bit on that last one....
[/quote]

thug I think it is good you know cause and effect with the elbow position and where it can go wrong. I used to not care as much and let it fly a little, but I have learned that I need few of what I will call "reference points" in my swing where I need some other reference to get a position right or an action consistent. If I let it fly, my elbow starts feeling lost out there behind me and since I can freely move it around it leads to inconsistency. If I keep the elbow pointing at my right hip throughout the swing, it gives me a consistent reference throughout the swing until the hit. Also feeling like my left elbow is rotating around and up into my right ear during the backswing is another reference. Every so often on the range I check these points in my swing and associate a feel to them. I have an upright swing and so I constantly practice where my hands are at the top. I heard Tom Watson used to do this and so I just started copying it since he has one of the most consistent swings of all time.

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422336878' post='10825909']
[quote]
[size=1]So THERE is where I personally land the right elbow - basically UNDER the handle.[/size]
[/quote]

Totally agree. The Riight elbow has to be under the 'plane of glass' and the handle. But, you can let it seperate at the top (again, a la Freddie), and then bring it down and 'tuck' it. Just wondering about yous guys thoughts on it.

See, I am so much more comfortable talking swing thoughts with this bunch than on the other forum, where I would get answers like: "You have to have the center of gravity pivoting around the major axis during the transition from P3 to AXQ5E2 through the power leverage of the secondary lever so that the delivery of the clubhead is routed into the primary plane".
[/quote]

This is the "safe zone" for swing talk. It's the "in between" plane
that gets elusive. Too much tuck, too far inside (hooks), not enough
tuck (outside in) slices. I've heard you can put something on the
ground to block the too inside path. then swing over and over to
get the feel of the correct plane. Haven't tried it myself but heard
it helps.

[Reasonability]

[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422336878' post='10825909']
[quote]
[size=1]So THERE is where I personally land the right elbow - basically UNDER the handle.[/size]
[/quote]

Totally agree. The Riight elbow has to be under the 'plane of glass' and the handle. But, you can let it seperate at the top (again, a la Freddie), and then bring it down and 'tuck' it. Just wondering about yous guys thoughts on it.

See, I am so much more comfortable talking swing thoughts with this bunch than on the other forum, where I would get answers like: "You have to have the center of gravity pivoting around the major axis during the transition from P3 to AXQ5E2 through the power leverage of the secondary lever so that the delivery of the clubhead is routed into the primary plane".
[/quote]

What I wouldn't give for the opportunity to kick tires like that with you guys. Can't project what's in my soul about that one on you guys -- But I would SO love to just BS about this among friends where no one is right or wrong - we just share and have fun kicking the tires. Maybe one day that place will exist. Maybe.

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422337057' post='10825925']
[quote]
Chew fast and swallow;
thankfully it was crispy and I thought about something else as I ate it.

[/quote]

InQuiring minds need to know; what were you thinking about Rad?

I guess crab brains are a no go?

Edit: had to turn the q into Q
[/quote]

I don't remember but I wasn't thinking I was eating a pigeon
head, that's for sure.

Do crabs have brains??

My grandfather ate scrambled eggs and brains. Different times.

Down here people eat wild animals. Not me. If I can't buy it at Publix
I ain't eatin' it.......meat that is.

[thug the bunny]

[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1422337338' post='10825947']
[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422336045' post='10825865']
The reason I posted the right elbow question is that I have forever vascillated between some version of tucked (as you said pointing down to the right hip) and letting it seperate at the top, and bring it down into the right hip during the downswing. In letting it fly, I absolutely destroy the ball. We're talking almost WRX long. But, I always invariably start fading, which turns into a strong fade, which turns into a slice, etc, etc. Then, I will go back to tucking the elbow, and hit nice strong mini draws. Beautiful. Everything is clicking. Then, some pulls, which lead to pull draws, which become pull hooks, etc, etc. Then, go back to letting the elbow come loose a little, and start the whole process over again....I have the same process with tempo, plane, grip, path, and plane. I am hopelessly caught in the process of finding which of my multitude of swings will work for the present. But, guess what? I love this game no matter where I am at the moment. I can honestly say if I shoot a 77, I'm very happy; if I shoot an 88 I'm also very happy. OK, I fibbed a bit on that last one....
[/quote]

thug I think it is good you know cause and effect with the elbow position and where it can go wrong. I used to not care as much and let it fly a little, but I have learned that I need few of what I will call "reference points" in my swing where I need some other reference to get a position right or an action consistent. If I let it fly, my elbow starts feeling lost out there behind me and since I can freely move it around it leads to inconsistency. If I keep the elbow pointing at my right hip throughout the swing, it gives me a consistent reference throughout the swing until the hit. Also feeling like my left elbow is rotating around and up into my right ear during the backswing is another reference. Every so often on the range I check these points in my swing and associate a feel to them. I have an upright swing and so I constantly practice where my hands are at the top. I heard Tom Watson used to do this and so I just started copying it since he has one of the most consistent swings of all time.
[/quote]

Thanks for those thoughts Ninja. I agree, overall, my right elbow 'down' is more consistent I think because it's more connected. As you said, it has a reference point. But, it's kinda strange that you say you have an upright swing with a connected elbow. In my stupid golf experience, a connected right elbow is usually associated with a flatter plane? Y'know, next time out, I'm going to experiment with upright + tucked. Thanks man!

[Reasonability]

Ninja - unless I'm mistaken - you prefer a little bit of higher arm flow. Haven't seen your swing but somewhere I thought you suggested a little higher arm plane is something you're perfectly fine with, If so - I can understand how a "flying elbow gets a little tricky. Jack could (EDIT: [u]manage[/u]) it. Many see it as disaster I would think.

At just about any plane - I would THINK this elbow business can be tricky. I almost HAVE to be aware during practice of letting it lead the hands into the strike and pass in front the turning right hip. This is because of my own tendencies as a recovering EE-aholic and the everlasting effects of damage done to my lower spine in the mid 90's. I simply don't have a choice but to think and act in this light. BUT I can sure understand it for those who see it differently.

[thug the bunny]

You guys provide me more laughs than any sitcom or movie. What a gift. I am in DC right now hoping that the gov is shut down tomorrow because of snow. If that happens, I will be stuck in a hotel room with a couple bottles of wine and nothing to do. I see a lot of incoherent posts coming tomorrow! Good night!

[Reasonability]

NOW THIS IS HILLARIOUS!!!! (....meat that is....) OMG!!!!!

[quote name='Conrad1953' timestamp='1422337966' post='10825977']
[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422337057' post='10825925']
[quote]
Chew fast and swallow;
thankfully it was crispy and I thought about something else as I ate it.

[/quote]

InQuiring minds need to know; what were you thinking about Rad?

I guess crab brains are a no go?

Edit: had to turn the q into Q
[/quote]

I don't remember but I wasn't thinking I was eating a pigeon
head, that's for sure.

Do crabs have brains??

My grandfather ate scrambled eggs and brains. Different times.

Down here people eat wild animals. Not me. If I can't buy it at Publix
I ain't eatin' it.......meat that is.
[/quote]

[DeNinny]

[quote name='thug the bunny' timestamp='1422338048' post='10825983']
Thanks for those thoughts Ninja. I agree, overall, my right elbow 'down' is more consistent I think because it's more connected. As you said, it has a reference point. But, it's kinda strange that you say you have an upright swing with a connected elbow. In my stupid golf experience, a connected right elbow is usually associated with a flatter plane? Y'know, next time out, I'm going to experiment with upright + tucked. Thanks man!
[/quote]

Tucked is the only way that I can lift it upright consistently. Combined with the aforementioned left elbow to right ear reference I can get my hands over my head at the top of my swing. I feel like I'm a waiter holding a tray over my head.

BTW cardoustie had a good upright swing thread going in the Instruction forum. If you are going to try an upright swing I think it is a good place to start for some tips.

[Conrad1953]

Here's a food story;

Cobi is from Holland. Came here at age 8. Lived in Washington state.

One week relatives from Holland come for a visit. While there they all
go to a friends house for dinner one night.

Friends bring out the dinner plates filled with food. The relatives just
sit there staring at their plates and looking back at each other. They
were freaked out cause there was corn on their plates. In Holland,
corn was only eaten by animals. They were stunned to see animal
food on their plates and didn't know what to do, lol.

[Reasonability]

One thing that fascinates me is the grip itself. I don't believe I could describe it very well. If the club lands at the top pointing skyward or toe-down (open or shut) then I personally am doomed. It won't provided my grip is right. BUT lest I sound cocky about it - I can play feeling absolutely convinced my grip is just PERFECT. Get home and stand in front of a mirror - and its more than a little open up there. (and I wonder why I had a little push that day - LOL). During actual play - I don't (like most folks don't) like to think about all this stuff. I just want to set up well and take a nice practice swing or two at most and go. Played with the preshot routine for 40 years to and STILL trying to just get up there - RELAX and GO. Would rather think about tempo and staying relaxed more than have one thought.

But back to the grip - I honestly believe there is a very ideal and optimum grip for each of us and when we find it - AND put that with a good setup.... then half the mechanical war is already won. But that's me and my tendencies. To each his own, right?

[Michael C.]

[quote name='Conrad1953' timestamp='1422339884' post='10826089']
Here's a food story;

Cobi is from Holland. Came here at age 8. Lived in Washington state.

One week relatives from Holland come for a visit. While there they all
go to a friends house for dinner one night.

Friends bring out the dinner plates filled with food. The relatives just
sit there staring at their plates and looking back at each other. They
were freaked out cause there was corn on their plates. In Holland,
corn was only eaten by animals. They were stunned to see animal
food on their plates and didn't know what to do, lol.
[/quote]

Corn has very little nutrional value really.......not like pigeon heads!!! TOOL!

[Reasonability]

[quote name='Conrad1953' timestamp='1422339884' post='10826089']
Here's a food story;

Cobi is from Holland. Came here at age 8. Lived in Washington state.

One week relatives from Holland come for a visit. While there they all
go to a friends house for dinner one night.

Friends bring out the dinner plates filled with food. The relatives just
sit there staring at their plates and looking back at each other. They
were freaked out cause there was corn on their plates. In Holland,
corn was only eaten by animals. They were stunned to see animal
food on their plates and didn't know what to do, lol.
[/quote]

PROMISE - this will be the last post for a bit so that others can squeeze in a word edge-wise. Which would get easier if I would back off. (WAY too much caffeine today - LOL).

This goes a little hand in hand with your story Rad. I used to report to a fella at work who had an extensive travel history around our world. At some point in his journeys he ends up in some middle eastern country (can't remember which). He is the dinner guest of someone and in their home.

THEY SERVED HIM A SHEEP EYE BALL.

Now this is where I would have gladly risked some international incident. Had they dropped that thing in front of me I would have promised them that they either get that figg'n thing away from me or be prepared for projectile vomiting all over their robes.

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='Reasonability' timestamp='1422340359' post='10826127']
One thing that fascinates me is the grip itself. I don't believe I could describe it very well. If the club lands at the top pointing skyward or toe-down (open or shut) then I personally am doomed. It won't provided my grip is right. BUT lest I sound cocky about it - I can play feeling absolutely convinced my grip is just PERFECT. Get home and stand in front of a mirror - and its more than a little open up there. (and I wonder why I had a little push that day - LOL). During actual play - I don't (like most folks don't) like to think about all this stuff. I just want to set up well and take a nice practice swing or two at most and go. Played with the preshot routine for 40 years to and STILL trying to just get up there - RELAX and GO. Would rather think about tempo and staying relaxed more than have one thought.

But back to the grip - I honestly believe there is a very ideal and optimum grip for each of us and when we find it - AND put that with a good setup.... then half the mechanical war is already won. But that's me and my tendencies. To each his own, right?
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I agree. I thought I had a bad grip cause I liked my left hand strong
and my right weak......so I changed it and moved my right hand stronger.

Then I join WRX and read the slicefixer thread and find out that's pretty
much what he recommends.

By then I had gotten used to a stronger right hand but prone to pulled
draws. Tried to go back to weak right hand and kept leaving the face
wide open and hitting wipes.

So kept a stronger right hand......but truth be told; played better golf
years ago with the weak right hand.....but can't go back and make it
work now. What a crazy game!!!

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='Michael C.' timestamp='1422340599' post='10826135']
[quote name='Conrad1953' timestamp='1422339884' post='10826089']
Here's a food story;

Cobi is from Holland. Came here at age 8. Lived in Washington state.

One week relatives from Holland come for a visit. While there they all
go to a friends house for dinner one night.

Friends bring out the dinner plates filled with food. The relatives just
sit there staring at their plates and looking back at each other. They
were freaked out cause there was corn on their plates. In Holland,
corn was only eaten by animals. They were stunned to see animal
food on their plates and didn't know what to do, lol.
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Corn has very little nutrional value really.......not like pigeon heads!!! TOOL!
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That may be true but I'm not giving up my chips and salsa!! TOOL TOO

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='Reasonability' timestamp='1422340670' post='10826139']
[quote name='Conrad1953' timestamp='1422339884' post='10826089']
Here's a food story;

Cobi is from Holland. Came here at age 8. Lived in Washington state.

One week relatives from Holland come for a visit. While there they all
go to a friends house for dinner one night.

Friends bring out the dinner plates filled with food. The relatives just
sit there staring at their plates and looking back at each other. They
were freaked out cause there was corn on their plates. In Holland,
corn was only eaten by animals. They were stunned to see animal
food on their plates and didn't know what to do, lol.
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PROMISE - this will be the last post for a bit so that others can squeeze in a word edge-wise. Which would get easier if I would back off. (WAY too much caffeine today - LOL).

This goes a little hand in hand with your story Rad. I used to report to a fella at work who had an extensive travel history around our world. At some point in his journeys he ends up in some middle eastern country (can't remember which). He is the dinner guest of someone and in their home.

THEY SERVED HIM A SHEEP EYE BALL.

Now this is where I would have gladly risked some international incident. Had they dropped that thing in front of me I would have promised them that they either get that figg'n thing away from me or be prepared for projectile vomiting all over their robes.
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That's why I stay here in the good ol US. I like my creature comforts, food
and all the rest. I can watch videos of foreign lands and that's good enough
for me. Everything I need is right here and travel is the last thing that
interests me........except maybe to play golf with my fellow WRXers someday.

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='Qqq123xx' timestamp='1422303578' post='10822287']
[quote name='Conrad1953' timestamp='1422303390' post='10822267']
[quote name='glk' timestamp='1422302951' post='10822213']
[quote name='Conrad1953' timestamp='1422302604' post='10822177']
[quote name='Qqq123xx' timestamp='1422301565' post='10822043']
Does do anyone like beets?? I don't. Just sayin'
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I'm TOOLed again! Didn't work Judge, at least not for me!

Beets no can do! Sorry glk. My dad used to say there was no
food he didn't like. He would eat anything! I didn't inherit that;
I'm a fussbucket; though a little less than I was as a kid. As a
kid I was really fussy......and most food was not on my list, lol.
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I draw that line at lima beans, bugs, and anything raw.
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Ah I love Lima's, lol, but not bugs! And I love raw veggies.....course
I'm from Calif. so that figures, hehe, but I won't eat tofu or lawn
clippings so there is hope.
[/quote]You don't like chicken on your pizza do you?? Just Qurious.
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Uh, we've been thru that, lol. NO!!!!!Chicken should ever be put
on pizza!!!!!!!!!

[Michael C.]

Agreed Rad - no bugs no chicken on pizza

Picky eater here. I thought I was going to go 7 on 1 on a golf trip once.
Oysters on the half shell in Biloxi. Never had them and they were
trying to get me to let them slide down like snot. Lol. I will take a
beat down for anyone forces me to eat anything. Luckily, for me
and the first guy who would've grabbed me it didn't come to that.
LMflatAO

[Conrad1953]

[quote name='Michael C.' timestamp='1422345098' post='10826263']
Agreed Rad - no bugs no chicken on pizza

Picky eater here. I thought I was going to go 7 on 1 on a golf trip once.
Oysters on the half shell in Biloxi. Never had them and they were
trying to get me to let them slide down like snot. Lol. I will take a
beat down for anyone forces me to eat anything. Luckily, for me
and the first guy who would've grabbed me it didn't come to that.
LMflatAO
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I did the oyster thing once.......that was enough.....and only because
I was hoping for a little aphrodisiac action with my date. Didn't turn
out well, lol.

[Conrad1953]

I need to go to bed!!

So did anyone vote in the booth babe contest?

How about an LPGA babe contest? Nope!! Not allowed!!!

I'm intrigued by Porna. She has game. Where did Chuck
get that pic of her he had in his avatar. Where is Chuck??

And where's mdg?? Hope all is OK.

I'm out, lol, back into my hyperbaric chamber and dream
of birdies......and the babe next to me!!!

Q, if you're in the northeast (are you?) put down those
blades. Don't send a boy........get a shovel ready. Y'all
up there got your shovel ready job now...just took 6 years
is all. Patience! patience! Sure, LOL.

Stream of what???

I love having my own playground but..........zzzzzzzzzzzz
It's a tad boring........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz