Who's read Ian Poulter's Book!?

[Matt J]

There's no such thing as a "new" story. The differences are in how the story is told. The positive posts in this thread have piqued my interest. Thanks, crew.

[MtlJeff]

[quote name='thatboygaule' timestamp='1419710369' post='10647739']
[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1419697818' post='10646997']
Cmon guys...I mean in not miserable (except when I'm forced to drink scotch that costs less then 100$). But I mean I don't see what there is to learn from a guy like poulter. He does seem like a bit of a self aggrandizer and obviously is a great golfer, but hasn't won a ton.

Everyone is entitled to write a book, but he's a pretty standard pro athlete. Moderate success, lavish in your face spending. Charitable, sure, but more as a percentage of income then 10000 people you've never heard of...not necessarily

He's a standard pro athlete. I'm sure I've heard his story many times
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I agree that it's a pretty standard athlete story but there are very few (if any) like his in golf
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Just to expand, to me if i want to read an athlete's story, i'm certainly more captivated by someone who is either dominant (like Tiger Woods or MJ, just to see how they think and motivate themselves)...or someone who has truly faced hardship. I mean look at a guy like Serge Ibaka in the NBA, whose mother was killed at a young age and whose father was imprisoned during the congo war, he moved to Spain and taught himself spanish, became a citizen there and ended up making the NBA. I mean damn, i'd buy his book!

Any hardships Poulter has faced, like not playing in competitions due to expenses, unless i'm missing something, are hardships millions of people go through (and i'm sure anyone reading this post can think of their owns friends who've faced worse). He made pro which is a great accomplishment, and then bought 32 Ferraris and a palace and can't wait to show everyone on twitter how luxurious his life is, in between beating down on Asian rookie players for showing frustration on the green, or other melodramatic things

OK, good for him, he is succesful and a great golfer. But probably no different then any other athlete who thinks his life is some sort of super important thing for the planet to appreciate.

And it's nothing against Athletes....i mean i read Jack Welsh's book....but i wouldn't read a book written by some 3 year CEO at a company ranked 178th on the fortune 500, either. Anyway, i'm rambling...i don't dislike Poulter or anyone who buys his book. If you want to read it it's your choice, just saying it doesn't interest me in a long winded way

[MattyO1984]

[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1419712989' post='10647883']
[quote name='thatboygaule' timestamp='1419710369' post='10647739']
[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1419697818' post='10646997']
Cmon guys...I mean in not miserable (except when I'm forced to drink scotch that costs less then 100$). But I mean I don't see what there is to learn from a guy like poulter. He does seem like a bit of a self aggrandizer and obviously is a great golfer, but hasn't won a ton.

Everyone is entitled to write a book, but he's a pretty standard pro athlete. Moderate success, lavish in your face spending. Charitable, sure, but more as a percentage of income then 10000 people you've never heard of...not necessarily

He's a standard pro athlete. I'm sure I've heard his story many times
[/quote]


I agree that it's a pretty standard athlete story but there are very few (if any) like his in golf
[/quote]

Just to expand, to me if i want to read an athlete's story, i'm certainly more captivated by someone who is either dominant (like Tiger Woods or MJ, just to see how they think and motivate themselves)...or someone who has truly faced hardship. I mean look at a guy like Serge Ibaka in the NBA, whose mother was killed at a young age and whose father was imprisoned during the congo war, he moved to Spain and taught himself spanish, became a citizen there and ended up making the NBA. I mean damn, i'd buy his book!

Any hardships Poulter has faced, like not playing in competitions due to expenses, unless i'm missing something, are hardships millions of people go through (and i'm sure anyone reading this post can think of their owns friends who've faced worse). He made pro which is a great accomplishment, and then bought 32 Ferraris and a palace and can't wait to show everyone on twitter how luxurious his life is, in between beating down on Asian rookie players for showing frustration on the green, or other melodramatic things

OK, good for him, he is succesful and a great golfer. But probably no different then any other athlete who thinks his life is some sort of super important thing for the planet to appreciate.

And it's nothing against Athletes....i mean i read Jack Welsh's book....but i wouldn't read a book written by some 3 year CEO at a company ranked 178th on the fortune 500, either. Anyway, i'm rambling...i don't dislike Poulter or anyone who buys his book. If you want to read it it's your choice, just saying it doesn't interest me in a long winded way
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The interesting aspect that comes through from the book is how inspired he was by having Nick Faldo turn up at his club for an exhibition. Faldo turned up in a big fancy car and hit balls on the range to open up a new course. In the book Poulter actually comes across as quite self aware. He knows that he attracts critics for the way he acts, the way he is but he seems to like the idea that actually this might inspire kids to pick up the game. They might see him posting pictures of the car collection on Twitter and think that's pretty cool, I'm going to give this golf game a chance. Perhaps an unusual way to think about it but he inspires people to pick up this game then let him keep doing what he is doing.

[xxjonesyxx]

I was never a huge fan of Poulters, but then the irrational hatred of him by so many on this board has started to make me warm to him.

Neil

[imakaveli]

Will buy it soon, it seems like it has a lot of good stories in it, will be a nice read

[thatboygaule]

[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1419712989' post='10647883']
Just to expand, to me if i want to read an athlete's story, i'm certainly more captivated by someone who is either dominant (like Tiger Woods or MJ, just to see how they think and motivate themselves)...or someone who has truly faced hardship. I mean look at a guy like Serge Ibaka in the NBA, whose mother was killed at a young age and whose father was imprisoned during the congo war, he moved to Spain and taught himself spanish, became a citizen there and ended up making the NBA. I mean damn, i'd buy his book!

Any hardships Poulter has faced, like not playing in competitions due to expenses, unless i'm missing something, are hardships millions of people go through (and i'm sure anyone reading this post can think of their owns friends who've faced worse). He made pro which is a great accomplishment, and then bought 32 Ferraris and a palace and can't wait to show everyone on twitter how luxurious his life is, in between beating down on Asian rookie players for showing frustration on the green, or other melodramatic things

OK, good for him, he is succesful and a great golfer. But probably no different then any other athlete who thinks his life is some sort of super important thing for the planet to appreciate.

And it's nothing against Athletes....i mean i read Jack Welsh's book....but i wouldn't read a book written by some 3 year CEO at a company ranked 178th on the fortune 500, either. Anyway, i'm rambling...i don't dislike Poulter or anyone who buys his book. If you want to read it it's your choice, just saying it doesn't interest me in a long winded way
[/quote]

Great post. I certaintly agree with you but I think you'd be hardpressed to find someone as successful in professional sport who basically had no amateur career. Especially in golf where people are full time amateurs from as young as 15 or 16

[PJ72]

[quote name='thatboygaule' timestamp='1419710369' post='10647739']
[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1419697818' post='10646997']
Cmon guys...I mean in not miserable (except when I'm forced to drink scotch that costs less then 100$). But I mean I don't see what there is to learn from a guy like poulter. He does seem like a bit of a self aggrandizer and obviously is a great golfer, but hasn't won a ton.

Everyone is entitled to write a book, but he's a pretty standard pro athlete. Moderate success, lavish in your face spending. Charitable, sure, but more as a percentage of income then 10000 people you've never heard of...not necessarily

He's a standard pro athlete. I'm sure I've heard his story many times
[/quote]


I agree that it's a pretty standard athlete story but there are very few (if any) like his in golf
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Unfortunately, he dedicates about half a page to his 'story'. We want to know how bad he was and how he made himself a world class player. All we knew before was that he was a 4 handicap when he turned pro (which is the minimum entry requirement) and then suddenly he was a touring pro with silly haircuts and even sillier trousers. The book adds absolutely NOTHING to this 'story'.

I actually like the guy but the main things I took from this book is that he is money obsessed, and obsessed with making money. Even his cars (the fleet of Ferraris) he doesn't drive because they will devalue. They are an investment. He spends a few chapters of the book justifying to the reader why he spends his money and that he's worked hard for it - although he doesn't mention the hard work other than a few lines here and there. I would expect the work aspect to dominate the first few pages or even a chapter, then perhaps we wouldn't mind him showing off with the flash cars and houses.

Then there are the (several) Ryder Cup chapters. So dull!. Basically repeating himself about how great a Ryder cupper he is, and how Michael Jordan tried to intimidate him, but he couldn't get to the golf legend that is Ian Poulter! I had to skip whole chapters of the book to avoid the tedium.

I think he comes away from this book with a less positive image than he started, but he won't care coz he'll have made a few million out of it. Really disappointing read.

[playa]

[quote name='PJ72' timestamp='1419718155' post='10648207']
[quote name='thatboygaule' timestamp='1419710369' post='10647739']
[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1419697818' post='10646997']
Cmon guys...I mean in not miserable (except when I'm forced to drink scotch that costs less then 100$). But I mean I don't see what there is to learn from a guy like poulter. He does seem like a bit of a self aggrandizer and obviously is a great golfer, but hasn't won a ton.

Everyone is entitled to write a book, but he's a pretty standard pro athlete. Moderate success, lavish in your face spending. Charitable, sure, but more as a percentage of income then 10000 people you've never heard of...not necessarily

He's a standard pro athlete. I'm sure I've heard his story many times
[/quote]


I agree that it's a pretty standard athlete story but there are very few (if any) like his in golf
[/quote]

Unfortunately, he dedicates about half a page to his 'story'. We want to know how bad he was and how he made himself a world class player. All we knew before was that he was a 4 handicap when he turned pro (which is the minimum entry requirement) and then suddenly he was a touring pro with silly haircuts and even sillier trousers. The book adds absolutely NOTHING to this 'story'.

I actually like the guy but the main things I took from this book is that he is money obsessed, and obsessed with making money. Even his cars (the fleet of Ferraris) he doesn't drive because they will devalue. They are an investment. He spends a few chapters of the book justifying to the reader why he spends his money and that he's worked hard for it - although he doesn't mention the hard work other than a few lines here and there. I would expect the work aspect to dominate the first few pages or even a chapter, then perhaps we wouldn't mind him showing off with the flash cars and houses.

Then there are the (several) Ryder Cup chapters. So dull!. Basically repeating himself about how great a Ryder cupper he is, and how Michael Jordan tried to intimidate him, but he couldn't get to the golf legend that is Ian Poulter! I had to skip whole chapters of the book to avoid the tedium.

I think he comes away from this book with a less positive image than he started, but he won't care coz he'll have made a few million out of it. Really disappointing read.
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Better watch your back with that blasphemy. You will upset the IP groupies (yes you Vindog) with that sort of talk.

[MtlJeff]

Vindog is just upset with me that i wouldn't buy his book "hanging out in the tour forums" even though he bought mine "trolling the 19th hole"

It has divided us

[bunter101]

Did Poults steal your candy Playa? You got a hard on for him!

Did he turn you down for the High School Dance?

He goes on Twitter to say he has a new Ferrari, you go on to say you saw one.....

He has a published book of inane drivel, you come on a golf forum to write your ramblings.

[playa]

[quote name='bunter101' timestamp='1419729036' post='10648879']
Did Poults steal your candy Playa? You got a hard on for him!
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A few people here seem hot for him but I haven't imbibed the Kool aid yet. Is that you Vindog?

[mshills]

[quote name='playa' timestamp='1419729489' post='10648901']
[quote name='bunter101' timestamp='1419729036' post='10648879']
Did Poults steal your candy Playa? You got a hard on for him!
[/quote]
A few people here seem hot for him but I haven't imbibed the Kool aid yet. Is that you Vindog?
[/quote]

Just stop.

[superduperman]

[quote name='bunter101' timestamp='1419729036' post='10648879']
Did Poults steal your candy Playa? You got a hard on for him!

Did he turn you down for the High School Dance?

He goes on Twitter to say he has a new Ferrari, you go on to say you saw one.....

He has a published book of inane drivel, you come on a golf forum to write your ramblings.
[/quote]

Well said

[Hit em good]

I've always considered poulter to be somewhat of a dick, so I have no plans to read it.

[hogans71]

[quote name='bunter101' timestamp='1419729036' post='10648879']
Did Poults steal your candy Playa? You got a hard on for him!

Did he turn you down for the High School Dance?

He goes on Twitter to say he has a new Ferrari, you go on to say you saw one.....

He has a published book of inane drivel, you come on a golf forum to write your ramblings.
[/quote]

Playa...

Not really your "glass half full" guy..

You go playa! Call out all those chokers on tour!

[playa]

[quote name='hogans71' timestamp='1419822725' post='10653663']
[quote name='bunter101' timestamp='1419729036' post='10648879']
Did Poults steal your candy Playa? You got a hard on for him!

Did he turn you down for the High School Dance?

He goes on Twitter to say he has a new Ferrari, you go on to say you saw one.....

He has a published book of inane drivel, you come on a golf forum to write your ramblings.
[/quote]

Playa...

Not really your "glass half full" guy..

You go playa! Call out all those chokers on tour!
[/quote]
Nonsense. If you read my posts yiu see just as many glowing compliments as criticisms. I call it like I see it and don't buy that PC "unless you've won more money than him blah blah" crap that some of the fence sitters here seem to take. I guss I just dont impress as easy as skme around here and reserve my praise for truly great golfers who entertain with their sheer talent and greatness, not somebody who could simply give a chop like me five a side and school me. Whether you fan boys accept it or not, Poulter is not a great player and never will be, he just doesn't have the talent, as his 4 cap am status would suggest. He's a solid middle of the road PGA tour player, which obviously makes him a 1 in 100,000 or so talent compared to Joe Hacker, but amongst other tour players he's nothing to rave about, and certainly doesn't have the sort of profile you would expect from someone trying to sell books about themself. I thought this was a tour talk forum where people.could freely express their opinions, not an IP appreciaton society where anyone who doesn't drink the IP Koolaid is subjected to personal attacks. Grow up fellas, it's a big bad world out there and not everyone is going to agree with you all the time.

[golfinray]

[quote name='thatboygaule' timestamp='1419601135' post='10643037']
Got the book for christmas and am about half through. It has really changed my mind about him. He came from nothing and has built a whole new life for himself. I already kinda liked him but now i really admire what for he has done. I advise everyone to read it as it really is excellent!
[/quote] I hear Poulter basically has a third grade education and can barely read. I'm sure someone wrote it for him.

[Vindog]

[quote name='playa' timestamp='1419829628' post='10654007']Nonsense. If you read my posts yiu see just as many glowing compliments as criticisms. I call it like I see it and don't buy that PC "unless you've won more money than him blah blah" crap that some of the fence sitters here seem to take. I guss I just dont impress as easy as skme around here and reserve my praise for truly great golfers who entertain with their sheer talent and greatness, not somebody who could simply give a chop like me five a side and school me. Whether you fan boys accept it or not, Poulter is not a great player and never will be, he just doesn't have the talent, as his 4 cap am status would suggest. He's a solid middle of the road PGA tour player, which obviously makes him a 1 in 100,000 or so talent compared to Joe Hacker, but amongst other tour players he's nothing to rave about, and certainly doesn't have the sort of profile you would expect from someone trying to sell books about themself. I thought this was a tour talk forum where people.could freely express their opinions, not an IP appreciaton society where anyone who doesn't drink the IP Koolaid is subjected to personal attacks. Grow up fellas, it's a big bad world out there and not everyone is going to agree with you all the time.
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Keep fightin the good fight!!

[golfing_penguin]

[quote name='Hot Rod 71' timestamp='1419687884' post='10646483']
Playa is one of GolfWRX's biggest trolls.

[quote name='playa' timestamp='1419653430' post='10645715']
I'd like to see him actually win something before writing a book telling us all how far he's come.
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So 2 PGA Tour wins, 12 European Tour wins, numerous top 10 finishes in majors, and a member of 5 winning Ryder cup teams don't count as wins?
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Don't forget that WGC in China

[stixman]

[quote name='golfinray' timestamp='1419850974' post='10654455']
[quote name='thatboygaule' timestamp='1419601135' post='10643037']
Got the book for christmas and am about half through. It has really changed my mind about him. He came from nothing and has built a whole new life for himself. I already kinda liked him but now i really admire what for he has done. I advise everyone to read it as it really is excellent!
[/quote] I hear Poulter basically has a third grade education and can barely read. I'm sure someone wrote it for him.
[/quote]

Educated people report little of what they hear and only half what they see.
In other words, if you can't provide more substantive material the 'I hear' then it is you that is going to be perceived as lightweight.
Have a good New Year.

[smiley9929]

[quote name='Hit em good' timestamp='1419822237' post='10653637']
I've always considered poulter to be somewhat of a dick, so I have no plans to read it.
[/quote]

Watch out, honest opinions and not just fan boy posts can get you into hot water around here!

[cav5]

I ordered it, waiting for it to arrive. Will post my thoughts after i read it

[playa]

[quote name='Vindog' timestamp='1419857819' post='10654631']
[quote name='playa' timestamp='1419829628' post='10654007']Nonsense. If you read my posts yiu see just as many glowing compliments as criticisms. I call it like I see it and don't buy that PC "unless you've won more money than him blah blah" crap that some of the fence sitters here seem to take. I guss I just dont impress as easy as skme around here and reserve my praise for truly great golfers who entertain with their sheer talent and greatness, not somebody who could simply give a chop like me five a side and school me. Whether you fan boys accept it or not, Poulter is not a great player and never will be, he just doesn't have the talent, as his 4 cap am status would suggest. He's a solid middle of the road PGA tour player, which obviously makes him a 1 in 100,000 or so talent compared to Joe Hacker, but amongst other tour players he's nothing to rave about, and certainly doesn't have the sort of profile you would expect from someone trying to sell books about themself. I thought this was a tour talk forum where people.could freely express their opinions, not an IP appreciaton society where anyone who doesn't drink the IP Koolaid is subjected to personal attacks. Grow up fellas, it's a big bad world out there and not everyone is going to agree with you all the time.
[/quote]

Keep fightin the good fight!!
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It took 7 hours to reply and that's all you got? You're slippin Vindog, I expected better. Even from you

[deasy55]

Got a copy for the father for Christmas so once he's done I can have a read. Looking forward to it. Regardless of what a small bunch are posting on here, going from an assistant in a pro shop with a 4 handicap to 4th in the world is a great story.

[PJ72]

[quote name='deasy55' timestamp='1419886092' post='10656549']
Got a copy for the father for Christmas so once he's done I can have a read. Looking forward to it. Regardless of what a small bunch are posting on here, going from an assistant in a pro shop with [b]a 4 handicap to 4th in the world is a great story[/b].
[/quote]

Yes. It is. But you won't find it in the book.

[MtlJeff]

The 4 handicap thing is a little overblown anyway right? Wasn't he a 4 because he didn't want to pay to enter competitions? And in Europe you can't be lower then that unless you are posting tournament scores?

It's still impressive that he made it to where he is without as much competition practice as others. But he wasn't like your average 4 handicap you meet at your club, who doesn't break 80 half his rounds. When he was a 4 he was an assistant pro, he was probably more like a +

[xxjonesyxx]

[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1419967903' post='10661237']
The 4 handicap thing is a little overblown anyway right? Wasn't he a 4 because he didn't want to pay to enter competitions? And in Europe you can't be lower then that unless you are posting tournament scores?

It's still impressive that he made it to where he is without as much competition practice as others. But he wasn't like your average 4 handicap you meet at your club, who doesn't break 80 half his rounds. When he was a 4 he was an assistant pro, he was probably more like a +
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Unless you are posting tournament scores in the UK, you don't get any handicap at all......
+ handicaps are very far and few between in CONGU. There's supposed to be about a 4 shot difference between US ones and UK ones so he would have probably been off 1 in the states.

Neil

[mr_divots]

I think what most turns my gears about Poulter is his adoption and Tour posterchild status for everything "social media."
I think its generally a vapid waster of one's time. To get into "twitter battles" is such a [u]juevnille[/u] endeavor. I just can't respect someone who seems to sit there and just wait to make his next "social media" mark. I liken Twitter and all this with so many non-celebrities whose "careers" seem to be nothing but social media, by and large. So Poulter can keep doing what he's doing, and I'll continue thinking of him as a pretty boy twit akin to the Justin Bieber of golf. It cheapens his own image and the accomplishments he has achieved.

And his clothes suck rocks. A book? Yeah...anyone can do it, or have it written for them. He certainly doesn't strike me as anything special because he didn't come from money. Raise your hand, you and me, right? It's not an especially exclusive club to belong to.

[thatboygaule]

Technically he had no handicap when he turned pro so he didn't actually turn pro off four nor did he have the game of a 4. He played off of 4 two years before turning pro. You can read this in the book.

[curitiba]

No need to read his book. I just need to re-read this article to confirm poulter is a ****** who seems to have forgotten his past!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2720519/I-booked-six-business-seats-BA-downgraded-nanny-just-not-right-Leading-golfer-Ian-Poulter-accused-touch-Twitter-rant.html