Blade users thread (NO DEBATING CLUBHEADS! NO Buy Sell Trade!)

[Jonesy]

Sold the MP-69s today back to the shop, and got a good price for them. I practised with them earlier this morning, and found I was hitting them left, more so that the MP-4 and VIPs I brought along for comparison. I got the lies checked and found they were the same as the MP-4s, so I decided it was time to shift them.

So, I'm down to three sets, but realistically only one (MP4s) as the VIPs I can't see myself putting into play that often, and the MS-11s I bought in the first place for occasional use only--although they are pretty damn playable.

The Cally protos in the shop are still tempting, as are the MP-68s, but there's also a pretty nice set of Titleist 690.MBs (4i-PW, DGS200). I like the way they set up, and they would at least be a change from the Mizunos. Good price for them as well (about $130), though the grips are a bit dodgy.

 

How have you not bought the Proto's already?? They are waiting!

[Arzac B]

Recent purchases

The beginning and end

 

[Nard_S]

 

 

Perusing Fleabay the other day. Never used set of 681's, 2-PW w/ Rifle 7.5 FCM popped up as BIN/BO. Could not help myself.

 

The clubs are mint new except for a staining on PW that might clean up. Shafts surprisingly do not feel super stiff or heavy but ball hitting will be the final test their viability for me.

 

These are the last of my holy grail clubs that I have been wanting to own. They are even prettier than pictures convey.

 

Seller bought these new and had them in his living room. He never got to use them because he became disabled. His price was very fair and I will humbly take great care of the clubs he never got a chance to play.

[parthurvt]

My first foray into blades started about a month ago with the Titleist 716 MB's. I'm actually using the T-MB's for the 4 and 5 iron and then 6-PW is the MB. I absolutely love them, I'm not seeing really any accuracy difference between them and my old 714 AP2's, but I am seeing better distance control. I am officially converted!

[Bigmean]

Nard, if you don't mind, what was the damage on those? (Promise your significant other doesn't read this thread!). They have been on my radar a while but I always lose interest past $350....and they always go past that.....

 

So I was listening to haney in Sirius pga today, and thank god, a caller called in with my exact driving issues.....basically it is a 2 way miss,high block right that tails right, and low duck.....so I am totally glued to what is about to happen.....hank then says that the good news is that it is a good player that has this issue off the tee becuase you need to be able to truly draw the ball and come from the inside...(I am feeling ok at this point) then it went down hill. He says that is an uncommon issue know as the driver yips, and it is what ended david duvals career and captain drop 80s Steven boditch has same problem.... So I am like of course it is the yips....no sh$t I have been battling this for a long time now and not getting better. I empathized with his breakdown of how not knowing where it is going both ways is so destructive etc. it was left at the club is coming too far inside, and probably pointing right of the target at the top. He gave that and a grip drill....I am leaving work to olay this afternoon and while his overall assesment of it was it is not good, not good at all(yeah....tell me about it) at least I have a swing key to point the club left of the target at the top, and the grip thing he said would be uncomfortable and you have to go back to normal, but basically get it out of your fingers and I to your palm and go as neutral as you can.

 

So it was 100% exactly to a Tee(pun intended) what I have fought, and the worst part is what he said in that 1/3 drives is probably good so combining that with the 2 way and no telling what will happen makes it so hard to work on and diagnose.....argh. I do feel like knowing something is a real positive though, and I know I have a tendency to be flat/get stuck.....fingers crossed I can at least find a feeling that takes away the duck hook, I can live with blocks.

[bladehunter]

 

 

Perusing Fleabay the other day. Never used set of 681's, 2-PW w/ Rifle 7.5 FCM popped up as BIN/BO. Could not help myself.

 

The clubs are mint new except for a staining on PW that might clean up. Shafts surprisingly do not feel super stiff or heavy but ball hitting will be the final test their viability for me.

 

These are the last of my holy grail clubs that I have been wanting to own. They are even prettier than pictures convey.

 

Seller bought these new and had them in his living room. He never got to use them because he became disabled. His price was very fair and I will humbly take great care of the clubs he never got a chance to play.

 

great pickup ! head and shafts are hard to find in good shape !

[bladehunter]

Nard, if you don't mind, what was the damage on those? (Promise your significant other doesn't read this thread!). They have been on my radar a while but I always lose interest past $350....and they always go past that.....

 

So I was listening to haney in Sirius pga today, and thank god, a caller called in with my exact driving issues.....basically it is a 2 way miss,high block right that tails right, and low duck.....so I am totally glued to what is about to happen.....hank then says that the good news is that it is a good player that has this issue off the tee becuase you need to be able to truly draw the ball and come from the inside...(I am feeling ok at this point) then it went down hill. He says that is an uncommon issue know as the driver yips, and it is what ended david duvals career and captain drop 80s Steven boditch has same problem.... So I am like of course it is the yips....no sh$t I have been battling this for a long time now and not getting better. I empathized with his breakdown of how not knowing where it is going both ways is so destructive etc. it was left at the club is coming too far inside, and probably pointing right of the target at the top. He gave that and a grip drill....I am leaving work to olay this afternoon and while his overall assesment of it was it is not good, not good at all(yeah....tell me about it) at least I have a swing key to point the club left of the target at the top, and the grip thing he said would be uncomfortable and you have to go back to normal, but basically get it out of your fingers and I to your palm and go as neutral as you can.

 

So it was 100% exactly to a Tee(pun intended) what I have fought, and the worst part is what he said in that 1/3 drives is probably good so combining that with the 2 way and no telling what will happen makes it so hard to work on and diagnose.....argh. I do feel like knowing something is a real positive though, and I know I have a tendency to be flat/get stuck.....fingers crossed I can at least find a feeling that takes away the duck hook, I can live with blocks.

 

 

i didnt catch Haney..But i also suffer from the literal yips with driver from time to time... and his advice is how i fix them... i can make my left hand as weak as i can and then my right neutral as well ( i use a single interlock ) and aim left side of the fairway and play a nice little cut with a slightly open stance.. this will at least eleviate the two way miss and get my head to stop wondering where its going.. a week or so of that and then i can stand and trust a draw to not be a hook again ... But its a revolving door , and ive yet to get it to stop for good ..

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

How have you not bought the Proto's already?? They are waiting!

 

Heh. Shaft issues, mainly. On one set, the shafts are SR flex NSPRO, which are far too light and soft for me, and the other set has DGS200, which are just about OK for me, but unfortunately a couple of them are really rusty. I mean rusty to the point of possibly dangerous to play. Factor in the shaft replacement costs, and the price is no longer so attractive.

[Bigmean]

Thanks BH! I also have an interlock and I know despite tiger, jack and Rory, everyone says it is the worst, but at 36 playing from a self taught kid really really really would have to be staring at giving up the game before trying to change with 100% effort. I don't want to draw it off the tee, my mind has never seen it and I can hit real fades(not a pull slice, but a right 8 yards left to right) so I don't feel like I lose any distance and I love the misses I used to get with them, either a tug left but not going left or you slice it a little. Both very usable. I developed a block slice recently as an effort to doubly sure I don't duck hook but I can tighten that up if I stop going left and can trust going through.....I am excited to have a direction, get ready for my nothing worked wtf post this evening Hahahaha

[Nard_S]

Nard, if you don't mind, what was the damage on those? (Promise your significant other doesn't read this thread!). They have been on my radar a while but I always lose interest past $350....and they always go past that.....

 

So I was listening to haney in Sirius pga today, and thank god, a caller called in with my exact driving issues.....basically it is a 2 way miss,high block right that tails right, and low duck.....so I am totally glued to what is about to happen.....hank then says that the good news is that it is a good player that has this issue off the tee becuase you need to be able to truly draw the ball and come from the inside...(I am feeling ok at this point) then it went down hill. He says that is an uncommon issue know as the driver yips, and it is what ended david duvals career and captain drop 80s Steven boditch has same problem.... So I am like of course it is the yips....no sh$t I have been battling this for a long time now and not getting better. I empathized with his breakdown of how not knowing where it is going both ways is so destructive etc. it was left at the club is coming too far inside, and probably pointing right of the target at the top. He gave that and a grip drill....I am leaving work to olay this afternoon and while his overall assesment of it was it is not good, not good at all(yeah....tell me about it) at least I have a swing key to point the club left of the target at the top, and the grip thing he said would be uncomfortable and you have to go back to normal, but basically get it out of your fingers and I to your palm and go as neutral as you can.

 

So it was 100% exactly to a Tee(pun intended) what I have fought, and the worst part is what he said in that 1/3 drives is probably good so combining that with the 2 way and no telling what will happen makes it so hard to work on and diagnose.....argh. I do feel like knowing something is a real positive though, and I know I have a tendency to be flat/get stuck.....fingers crossed I can at least find a feeling that takes away the duck hook, I can live with blocks.

 

The 681's were $499 or best offer. I did not haggle, just hit the button. Seen several NIB sets go $900-1200, so considering shafts may not be ideal though they do feel great on air swings, it was a quite fair price. My fall back on the shafts is the Brunswick FM 6.5's that I have, the dowel thing is no problem because I can actually machine them myself. Finding these clubs in great condition and under $500 is a challenge. It may happen, there is a "T-stamp" set on there that are clearly used but okay and guy is looking for a $700 bid or $1200 BIN. Not a bargain, but not too too nuts. So maybe 681's will become a better value. Who knows.

 

Interesting about your comments with Driver yips and things Mr. Haney says. I have had the same exact problem (for years) and yes, I cross the line at the top and come in too inside. Been a lot better this summer about it, the thing that help[s me is I have to feel like I am throwing an uppercut with right arm through the ball. The tricky part is to get in a position to do just that. It is really complex because it is about the lower body, the transition and the right shoulder and even hands to get it "in the slot" to pull off feeling.

[Bigmean]

Ok, I don't want to get too excited but I played, 2 balls on front shot 40/41, but I hit fairways like 50%. Then played with some people on back, reverted back, shot probably same....then played 6 more before dark. Focused on club at top pointing left, and I crap you not I was not just finding fairways somewhat, but my misses were 10ft off, nothing dead. Played those 6 even with a birdie and 3 putt...also spoke to pro who I am getting lessons with and he said driver will just expose iron problems so i was trying to layoff everything to left at top and the results were straighter shots, or lack of better word, straighter shots without thinking about straight, just thought of club head at top.

 

We will see but I am really feeling good about this. It feels word but results were immediate. My contact was a bit off as my timing and all was messed up, but distance and all that was right as rain. I only pull hooked one shot, and it was when one of the guys I played with asked me my cap and I said I was lower earlier but I am playing to like a 10 now, and he said no way you are are a 10, (I was like +2 through 5, they were gamblers and weary of sandbagging) and right after that I did it. Right into a tree just past the tees on the left......I doubled the hole and made sandbag jokes but finished out at +1 on last 3 then turned that into the even through 6 on next 9. I really hope this is some kind of something because the game is a whole lot different when you have looks at the green on your second.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

I really hope this is some kind of something because the game is a whole lot different when you have looks at the green on your second.

 

A big A-MEN to that, brother!

[Jonesy]

How have you not bought the Proto's already?? They are waiting!

 

Heh. Shaft issues, mainly. On one set, the shafts are SR flex NSPRO, which are far too light and soft for me, and the other set has DGS200, which are just about OK for me, but unfortunately a couple of them are really rusty. I mean rusty to the point of possibly dangerous to play. Factor in the shaft replacement costs, and the price is no longer so attractive.

 

I hear you, that's a frustrating scenario you have there! I'm lucky when it comes to iron shafts, almost everything I've bought has been fine in terms of shafts, and I've always got a spare set of shafts that work for me lying around. I just ask the shop to swap shafts and then sell the pulls that don't work for me. It also helps that having shafts changed is usually very cheap or even free.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

How have you not bought the Proto's already?? They are waiting!

 

Heh. Shaft issues, mainly. On one set, the shafts are SR flex NSPRO, which are far too light and soft for me, and the other set has DGS200, which are just about OK for me, but unfortunately a couple of them are really rusty. I mean rusty to the point of possibly dangerous to play. Factor in the shaft replacement costs, and the price is no longer so attractive.

 

I hear you, that's a frustrating scenario you have there! I'm lucky when it comes to iron shafts, almost everything I've bought has been fine in terms of shafts, and I've always got a spare set of shafts that work for me lying around. I just ask the shop to swap shafts and then sell the pulls that don't work for me. It also helps that having shafts changed is usually very cheap or even free.

 

I should get a spare set of shafts for putting in club heads I want to try. But shafts here usually include the labour costs, so they're expensive. One WRXer told me about a place up near Tokyo that sells shafts for cheap, and I have the bookmark somewhere...

[Bigmean]

Change your own shafts, it is too easy not to. I did buy a SW scale used for like $60, I would recommend that as it keeps you certain, but it is just so easy.

 

I am dreaming about playing all day. Even though I shot 40/41/41 before that even stretch of 6, I had 2 3 putts, chili dipped 2 mid wedges, and caught a greenside bunker shot all ball and sent it on the other side fo green for a double....basically, scores were the same, but it came from real crappy shortgame, which is usually what saves the same scores from really horrendous tee game. Shooting basically 82 (I love playing until dark and getting as many as I can!) it felt like I broke 80 becuase I had usable drives all day, for first time since June really. It just felt sooooo good to have that monkey gone it was almost like the rest of my game was killing time to hit another tee shot. I am dying to know if this is something that can be built upon and not a flash placebo.

 

It makes sense though, as I paid attention on range before, with my club pointing more to right of hole instead of the left, the face is naturally brutally shut. By laying it off( I am not sure if that is correct use of that term, but it is the feeling I keyed on) the club face is more open at the top. This makes a lot of sense since I can lose a 9 iron, pw and even gap wedge 25 yards left. So maybe if my path is not terrible, but the face is that shut, that is how you can lose such a high lofted club so damn much. Also, I hve been good for like 3-5 drives where I feel a chicken wing happening from holding off too much, with what I was doing yesterday, since my only thought was lay off at top, I wasn't thinking about face at all and didn't wing one. And the most exciting thing is that my pushes only faded like 10 yards, so they were just missed fairways not pushes with 30 yards of open held off face dead which was my predominant miss......

 

Sorry for the ramble, but if I can build a little on yesterday, good scores are so close with some serious wedge time and this is just the most excited I have been about golf since the beginning of summer...

[Aviador Naval]

My T-MB/MB arrived yesterday and I went straight from the shop to the first tee. First approach called for either a low draw 7i at the fat part of the green or a big 8i at the pin that was on a smaller more protected part of the green. Grabbed the 7i, shot came off as planned, ball ran out nicely and stopped 4 feet from pin. The rest of the day was a bit more varied but the course was wide open so I dropped quite a few balls and experimented with different shots while trying to understand any distance differences.

 

General observations as opposed to the AP2s I have used for 3yrs that had a softer tip shaft include:

 

1. Launch angle was noticeably lower (and that hasn't always been the case for me with simple shaft swaps), flight was stronger, wind performance was better, and reaction on the green indicates spin is down appreciably. I really liked my AP2 but on the somewhat over-watered and otherwise soft greens I normally play it was really hard for me to get a ball to release at all even up to 5i. Yesterday the greens were nearly as firm as I'll ever routinely see and approach performance was right where I want it.

 

2. I really like the AMT shafts - a lot. I'm a run of the mill 3-5 hdcp with a fairly pedestrian SS (D~100, 6i~84) and moderate tempo. As such I can comfortably play regular or stiff iron shafts and although I've just traded out of some 93 gram shafts I generally prefer the 115 gr range. I opted for Reg in this case as they are 4 grams lighter (and I'm a few months shy of 50...) but would be interested to see what a set of S300 soft-stepped might feel like.

 

3. Temps were in the high 50s and I explored the clubface a couple of times. While it was immediately apparent where I had missed and appropriate punishment was doled out in the ball flight, there was no "jarring" or "stinging" that I have felt before with other muscleback/shaft combos.

 

4. Moderate misses were very playable with the biggest difference coming not so much from a little low, toe, or heel but rather from a little fat. There is no doubt the AP2 is better equipped to deal with that miss.

 

5. I recognize possession of T-MB is likely cause for conditional membership in any 'blade' society but they are really nice pieces of kit and I can definitely use the help at 5i. However, there may be an MB 6i in my near future.

 

6. Went with a Vokey 46 PW as opposed to the set PW. Not really sure why honestly and I think I like the look of the MB PW better. However, I really like the performance of the Vokey and will likely stay with it for a while. Quite a bit lower than the AP2 yet still plenty of grab.

 

7. There is no sweeter feeling in golf than a pured shot with a muscleback club.

[mcgrath22]

I had Titleist MBs, then Mizuno MP-4, then Nike Pro blades, then I had a kid last fall and my rounds played went in the tank and switched to the Ping I e for a little more forgiveness until I can start playing more again. You don't buy blades for forgiveness but the MP-4s were the best with misses. I really loved the feel of the Nike's. They are extremely soft. Nothing feels better than catching a perfect 6 iron with one of those. A lot of people talk bad about Nike clubs but those are really good.

 

Good thread! It's nice to have something upbeat!

[Hatchmanss76]

Talking of shafts, what are the Shimadas Tours like? I am considering those Cooper irons that I posted a link about a few pages back, and one of their shaft options is Shimada Tours. I'll probably go with DGs because I seem to get my best results with those, but I'm curious to hear more about the Shimadas. They have a mid flex point, which, if it's like the Modus 120s, might not be a good match for me.

 

I have Shimada Tour K's in my 710MB's. As DG player most of my life in just about every thing the Tour K's feel smooth in comparison.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

Change your own shafts, it is too easy not to. I did buy a SW scale used for like $60, I would recommend that as it keeps you certain, but it is just so easy.

 

I've done pulls, but putting shafts in could be a problem if they need cutting, or the hosels need a bit of drilling, as I would have to buy the machinery from scratch, and I have nowhere to put it anyway.

 

Anyway, good to hear your game is getting back on track. Seems like yours went off the rails about the same time as mine, and I think I've just turned the corner today.

I've been trying lots of different fixes, but they've all been nothing but bandaids, as I hadn't worked out what the underlying cause was. I thought I had--swinging too round my body--but that was actually a symptom.

I was talking to a friend at the range today about how I couldn't feel my swing. I had no idea what was right and wrong with it anymore. Even my Billy Baroo, my 4w, has been awful recently as I hit it either fat or thin.

 

Then it hit me. My swing felt like I was hitting on-drives off the back foot in cricket. In other words, I was swinging back with all my weight on to the right foot and pivoting on it, and then leaving my weight on the right side in the downswing and trying to hoist the ball up. So I switched to thinking more of hitting off-drives off the front foot (left side), and lo and behold, the old swing feeling was back! The big plus was that my swing speed is now back up (I could feel it was noticeably slower, and I have been losing distance all summer), and I am compressing the ball properly again.

 

Woo-hoo :yahoo:

[bladehunter]

Thanks BH! I also have an interlock and I know despite tiger, jack and Rory, everyone says it is the worst, but at 36 playing from a self taught kid really really really would have to be staring at giving up the game before trying to change with 100% effort. I don't want to draw it off the tee, my mind has never seen it and I can hit real fades(not a pull slice, but a right 8 yards left to right) so I don't feel like I lose any distance and I love the misses I used to get with them, either a tug left but not going left or you slice it a little. Both very usable. I developed a block slice recently as an effort to doubly sure I don't duck hook but I can tighten that up if I stop going left and can trust going through.....I am excited to have a direction, get ready for my nothing worked wtf post this evening Hahahaha

 

 

yep..you can hear that interlock is the worst.. but grew up playing a 10 finger ( baseball) grip..and i only switched in winter of 2014 ..i just decided to one day and 1st tried overlap and i simply hate it., i feel like i loose contact with the grip , as in have much less control... so i went interlock and just hit chips and pitches every day for a week ... no full shots.. played with it on the 7th day and shot 5 over my handicap....never messed around since.. interlock just feels natural... i have big hands and long fingers, so im not sure if im suposed to like interlock or overlap better.. but whatever it works... and has worked for some of the games greats..

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

This is the Scotty Cameron putter I mentioned a few pages back. Might be genuine, might not be, but I have no idea. All I know is that it feels nice, sets up nice, and rolls well. The rest is just gravy.

 

 

 

/hey, it's sort of a blade...

[Jonesy]

@NoCatchy - I love the cricket reference! And I know exactly what you mean by those feelings, I do it as well. especially if I'm going after one.

 

I'm very excited ladies and chaps, it's time for our interclub tournament again! 3 days of golf around 3 differences courses to find out who the best club is in our province! Actually it's just a weekend away with the lads and far too many beers... But I have to make sure the swing is on form, I'm part of the defending B team champs so I'd love to be able to keep that title. It's going to be typical coastal golf with plenty wind and interesting shots so I'm looking forward to making my Proto's and 2 iron work.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

@NoCatchy - I love the cricket reference! And I know exactly what you mean by those feelings, I do it as well. especially if I'm going after one.

 

I'm very excited ladies and chaps, it's time for our interclub tournament again! 3 days of golf around 3 differences courses to find out who the best club is in our province! Actually it's just a weekend away with the lads and far too many beers... But I have to make sure the swing is on form, I'm part of the defending B team champs so I'd love to be able to keep that title. It's going to be typical coastal golf with plenty wind and interesting shots so I'm looking forward to making my Proto's and 2 iron work.

 

Thought you might appreciate it :taunt: Recalling the cricket shots really helped me realise what I was doing wrong. In fact, looking back over the last three months with my worst hooks, it almost felt like I was hitting a massive pull-slog over midwicket.

 

I think I remember you talking about the event last year (has it been a year already). I also seem to recall you mentioning a really bad hangover... :drinks:

 

You're just coming into springtime now in South Africa, aren't you? That makes me jealous...

[Jonesy]

@NoCatchy - I love the cricket reference! And I know exactly what you mean by those feelings, I do it as well. especially if I'm going after one.

 

I'm very excited ladies and chaps, it's time for our interclub tournament again! 3 days of golf around 3 differences courses to find out who the best club is in our province! Actually it's just a weekend away with the lads and far too many beers... But I have to make sure the swing is on form, I'm part of the defending B team champs so I'd love to be able to keep that title. It's going to be typical coastal golf with plenty wind and interesting shots so I'm looking forward to making my Proto's and 2 iron work.

 

Thought you might appreciate it :taunt: Recalling the cricket shots really helped me realise what I was doing wrong. In fact, looking back over the last three months with my worst hooks, it almost felt like I was hitting a massive pull-slog over midwicket.

 

I think I remember you talking about the event last year (has it been a year already). I also seem to recall you mentioning a really bad hangover... :drinks:

 

You're just coming into springtime now in South Africa, aren't you? That makes me jealous...

 

They actually make a lot of sense! Thinking about it now all my misses have been to the right and it's because I'm in a beautiful position to play a late cut :taunt:

 

Yeah it's been a year already! can't believe how fast it's all going... We are going into spring, our wet and rainy time of the year, hoping the weather is good to us this weekend but I think we might have a bit of rain. But at least then its target golf with the soft conditions. Do you have to deal with snow at all where you are?

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

 

They actually make a lot of sense! Thinking about it now all my misses have been to the right and it's because I'm in a beautiful position to play a late cut :taunt:

 

Yeah it's been a year already! can't believe how fast it's all going... We are going into spring, our wet and rainy time of the year, hoping the weather is good to us this weekend but I think we might have a bit of rain. But at least then its target golf with the soft conditions. Do you have to deal with snow at all where you are?

 

That could be quite a trick shot. Set up looking over 90 degrees left of the target, then play a deft late cut down the fairway. As long as there are no leg glances involved, because I could never play that damn shot.

 

I took up golf when I was still playing a lot of cricket, so I think that has affected my golf swing quite a bit. I always had too much bottom hand as a batsman, and in golf my right hand is too active.

 

As for snow, we don't really get it where I am, except on the high ground. I played once in February after a light snowfall. By the time I got to the course, the snow had melted, but the fairways were sodden. It was still playable, but good luck finding a dry spot to drop from casual water.

Our rainy season comes after spring, from June to July. Not the best time to play, but not the worst either. It's just a bit too hot and very, very humid.

[Sir Slicealot]

 

 

 

/hey, it's sort of a blade...

In Crocodile Dundee voice:

"That's not a blade. This is a blade!"

[Kingcat990]

No no....BigMeans Masda...that's a blade

[ClayJ]

I am considering picking up some 712MB Heads only from a local ad, then grabbing someones shaft pulls from the marketplace. Are these a good "first" blade for a blade newbie?

[Sir edward of putternut]

 

 

 

/hey, it's sort of a blade...

In Crocodile Dundee voice:

"That's not a blade. This is a blade!"

Ive ben looking into getting this putter since i putted with a random partners one day....it was the opposite of what i expected. Honestly felt better than my 2014 cameron, i most wanted to offer the guy a trade on the green....

[DeNinny]

I am considering picking up some 712MB Heads only from a local ad, then grabbing someones shaft pulls from the marketplace. Are these a good "first" blade for a blade newbie?

You are going to be fine with the 712s as long as you don't start second guessing yourself. Just be positive about it. You have science on your side with a blade. And you will feel your swing in High Definition. Welcome to the light side!

 

I have hit the 710 and 714 Titleist MBs and they are both fine blades for any golfer. The 710s feel a little more harsh and clicky but not bad at all.