Blade users thread (NO DEBATING CLUBHEADS! NO Buy Sell Trade!)

[DeNinny]

turtsoup, what you just concluded about your Apex vs mp33 took me nine years of switching back and forth comparing my mp60 vs mp67. In the departments of feel, feedback, precision ball control, shot to shot consistency, miss hit "forgiveness", and looks, the blade is the superior iron. I can tell you this from both anecdotal experience AND 100% scientific certainty. "Forgiveness", as marketed by HALF-TRUTH carney "forgiving" club manufacturers, ain't nothing but a carney SHAM. Trust me on this. The only thing that overrides this is statistical insignificance and a golfer with negative psychology about blades.

 

Again, welcome to the LIGHT side, Master blade Jedi.

[nzio]

Thanks for the list guys! Keep em coming!

 

Recently I did buy the Cobra King One Length, because my Blades, i thought was to difficult to really game and hit solid most times (i'm a 14 handicapper).

 

After reading 120 pages in this thread in less than two days, i had to take my Nike VR Pro Blades out for a spin, and with a new grip my hopes were not high.

 

But surprisingly I played out of my mind. I hit all my irons solid, and wow the feeling is just sex, I maybe missed one at the toe.

 

I made 37 points and i'm going down in handicap - I'm so happy for the decision to take the blades out of the closet!

 

I mean who do not like these amazing clubs, best looking Blade with the original Nike Blade - imo:

 

Now I just need a backup Blade set - just don't know which to buy - thinking Mizuno :superman: :superman:

[DeNinny]

Thanks for the list guys! Keep em coming!

 

Recently I did buy the Cobra King One Length, because my Blades, i thought was to difficult to really game and hit solid most times (i'm a 14 handicapper).

 

After reading 120 pages in this thread in less than two days, i had to take my Nike VR Pro Blades out for a spin, and with a new grip my hopes were not high.

 

But surprisingly I played out of my mind. I hit all my irons solid, and wow the feeling is just sex, I maybe missed one at the toe.

 

I made 37 points and i'm going down in handicap - I'm so happy for the decision to take the blades out of the closet!

 

I mean who do not like these amazing clubs, best looking Blade with the original Nike Blade - imo:

 

Now I just need a backup Blade set - just don't know which to buy - thinking Mizuno :superman: :superman:

 

Wow, what a way to 'come out'. Right to those Nikes AND already thinking backup blades set. LMAO that is awesome. I have hit those Nikes and their original blades. Both great blades. And a Mizuno backup set would complement the Nikes well...LOL and maybe even push the Nikes to backup bag status.

 

I made the switch to mp67 blades at a 16-17 index. Contrary to what carney "forgiving" iron makers market, the beneficial science of blades is universal across all golfers of all skills. Your handicap does NOT matter when it comes to capitalizing on the benefits. Only your mindset matters.

 

LOL it took my 30+ handicap wife just one round with my old Hogan Vector Lite blades for her to decide that they play better for her than her modern Cobra Amp irons. LMAO but note that she has to 'listen' to me talk about blades (a lot).

[Kingcat990]

Thanks for the list guys! Keep em coming!

 

Recently I did buy the Cobra King One Length, because my Blades, i thought was to difficult to really game and hit solid most times (i'm a 14 handicapper).

 

After reading 120 pages in this thread in less than two days, i had to take my Nike VR Pro Blades out for a spin, and with a new grip my hopes were not high.

 

But surprisingly I played out of my mind. I hit all my irons solid, and wow the feeling is just sex, I maybe missed one at the toe.

 

I made 37 points and i'm going down in handicap - I'm so happy for the decision to take the blades out of the closet!

 

I mean who do not like these amazing clubs, best looking Blade with the original Nike Blade - imo:

 

Now I just need a backup Blade set - just don't know which to buy - thinking Mizuno :superman: :superman:

 

Wow, what a way to 'come out'. Right to those Nikes AND already thinking backup blades set. LMAO that is awesome. I have hit those Nikes and their original blades. Both great blades. And a Mizuno backup set would complement the Nikes well...LOL and maybe even push the Nikes to backup bag status.

 

I made the switch to mp67 blades at a 16-17 index. Contrary to what carney "forgiving" iron makers market, the beneficial science of blades is universal across all golfers of all skills. Your handicap does NOT matter when it comes to capitalizing on the benefits. Only your mindset matters.

 

LOL it took my 30+ handicap wife just one round with my old Hogan Vector Lite blades for her to decide that they play better for her than her modern Cobra Amp irons. LMAO but note that she has to 'listen' to me talk about blades (a lot).

 

Thats pretty awesome your significant other is willing to take up the game and go.

[nzio]

Thanks for the list guys! Keep em coming!

 

Recently I did buy the Cobra King One Length, because my Blades, i thought was to difficult to really game and hit solid most times (i'm a 14 handicapper).

 

After reading 120 pages in this thread in less than two days, i had to take my Nike VR Pro Blades out for a spin, and with a new grip my hopes were not high.

 

But surprisingly I played out of my mind. I hit all my irons solid, and wow the feeling is just sex, I maybe missed one at the toe.

 

I made 37 points and i'm going down in handicap - I'm so happy for the decision to take the blades out of the closet!

 

I mean who do not like these amazing clubs, best looking Blade with the original Nike Blade - imo:

 

Now I just need a backup Blade set - just don't know which to buy - thinking Mizuno :superman: :superman:

 

Wow, what a way to 'come out'. Right to those Nikes AND already thinking backup blades set. LMAO that is awesome. I have hit those Nikes and their original blades. Both great blades. And a Mizuno backup set would complement the Nikes well...LOL and maybe even push the Nikes to backup bag status.

 

I made the switch to mp67 blades at a 16-17 index. Contrary to what carney "forgiving" iron makers market, the beneficial science of blades is universal across all golfers of all skills. Your handicap does NOT matter when it comes to capitalizing on the benefits. Only your mindset matters.

 

LOL it took my 30+ handicap wife just one round with my old Hogan Vector Lite blades for her to decide that they play better for her than her modern Cobra Amp irons. LMAO but note that she has to 'listen' to me talk about blades (a lot).

 

Iv'e always wanted to hit blades since I started playing golf 4 years ago.

 

Speaking of that Mizuno "backup" set :) - which would you recommend? I'm reading a ton about some cheap MP33 and MP4 if i wanna spend some more in the last 120 pages :)

 

Haha good stuff for the wife!

[DeNinny]

Yeah Kingcat she really is an awesome angel. Truly my better half. She took up golf really because of me (..."it's either be a golf widow or join you"...). She's put up with me for 17 years married, 22 total, so I guess I'm doing something right. Although LOL she gave me the 'stink eye' when I named my black boron BBs my 'Porn Stars'.

[DeNinny]

nzio, see my top 10 blades list a few posts back for solid Mizunos. Mp33, 67, and 29 are my top recommendations. Mp4, 68, and 69 are also solid. I don't care for the mp5 and mp32.

[Cardiff Duffer]

I used to hit a set of Cleveland blades...took several years off from playing and recently came back. Found them super hard to hit consistently. Picked up a used set of Wilson ci11's instead so we'll see how that goes.

[braincramp52]

I have to stay away from this thread. It's making me want some blades again. ?

[DeNinny]

I have to stay away from this thread. It's making me want some blades again. ?

Pro tip: block me!

[turtsoup]

I have to stay away from this thread. It's making me want some blades again.

Pro tip: block me!

 

Yep! Hes such a terrible influence lol

[braincramp52]

I have to stay away from this thread. It's making me want some blades again.

Pro tip: block me!

 

Damn! I'm such a rookie! :)

[Exactice808]

So after 2 years, and being #9 post in this thread.....

 

Im back at it again......

 

first off.....$129 for this practically brand new "used" set sitting there smiling @ me..... 6-PW... $129

 

next... 6.0 PX Rifle..... what the hell never had them wanted to try them

 

took to my builder and just got it back today to try out tomorrow........

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pictures still dont do them justice along with the fact they were more dirty from the fitter having to bend the things back 5*....

 

Jeebus...1.5" extension, and upright 3*, he had to cut them back down and bend 2* flat from standard for me.... They guy that had this must have been 6'8".....

 

 

 

 

 

CANT FREAKING WAIT TO TRY THEM!!!!

[Nard_S]

Been looking a little at Tourspecgolf. Whats the take on the Itobori (maybe mispelled) or some of the brands there that you dont see very often? Some of those look phenomenal and are really pretty reasonable as far as pricing goes. I could see this newfound blade infatuation turning bad for me lol.

 

LOL outside of Miura I am a JDM n00b and Tourspec to me is riddled with JDM unknowns / rarities. Just post the link to what you are looking at, and I'm confident that the JDM fetish boys in this thread will give you some insight.

 

I only read this thread for new blades intel and no longer window shop for them. After getting my black boron BBs, I got out of the game. LOL now I just live vicariously through blades hos like you!

 

 

Ok heres a few that catch my eye.............. any feedback on brand and just personal opinion is welcomed (hope my links work)

 

https://www.tourspec...i-mb-irons.html

 

https://www.tourspec...-iron-3-pw.html

 

https://www.tourspec...-5-pw-6pcs.html

 

Take note, these are all based on looks for me as I have no experience with the models shown. Of course, all the itobori models are different and appealing to me.

 

I'm partial to the Crazy's, might even buy the wedge set they have......... Nice sticks

[wmblake2000]

Been looking a little at Tourspecgolf. Whats the take on the Itobori (maybe mispelled) or some of the brands there that you dont see very often? Some of those look phenomenal and are really pretty reasonable as far as pricing goes. I could see this newfound blade infatuation turning bad for me lol.

 

TSG took me a while to figure out. I rely a lot on a core set of regulars who have played them all. Chris is a salesman who will also shoot straight ... most of the time. There is a lot of hubbub on the site re Itobori. I have never seen or played them. Also like everything sometimes there's a herd mentality and everyone (including me) gets enthused over a club or brand. My advice: learn a little first.

[mahonie]

So after 2 years, and being #9 post in this thread.....

 

Im back at it again......

 

first off.....$129 for this practically brand new "used" set sitting there smiling @ me..... 6-PW... $129

 

next... 6.0 PX Rifle..... what the hell never had them wanted to try them

 

took to my builder and just got it back today to try out tomorrow........

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pictures still dont do them justice along with the fact they were more dirty from the fitter having to bend the things back 5*....

 

Jeebus...1.5" extension, and upright 3*, I he had to cut them back down and bend 2* flat from standard for me.... They guy that had this must have been 6'8".....

 

 

 

 

 

CANT FREAKING WAIT TO TRY THEM!!!!

 

Exactice, I hope you enjoy those great sticks. One of my golf buddies won a Cobra/Puma competition a few years back that included a set of Cobra clubs personally fitted by the Cobra European Tour fitter. My mate chose those AMP Pros and had them fitted at the Belfry (of Ryder Cup fame)...and then played with them in California with Poulter, Fowler and the other Cobra staffers at clinics/Pro-Am, etc around the Frys.com Open iirc. Needless to say he loves his Cobra gear! Glad to see you've come back from the dark side ;-)

[DeNinny]

Yeah Exactice welcome back, brah. Took you long enough and hang loose with those Cobras.

[Exactice808]

Exactice, I hope you enjoy those great sticks. One of my golf buddies won a Cobra/Puma competition a few years back that included a set of Cobra clubs personally fitted by the Cobra European Tour fitter. My mate chose those AMP Pros and had them fitted at the Belfry (of Ryder Cup fame)...and then played with them in California with Poulter, Fowler and the other Cobra staffers at clinics/Pro-Am, etc around the Frys.com Open iirc. Needless to say he loves his Cobra gear! Glad to see you've come back from the dark side ;-)

 

Damn That sounds like a hellava experience...... Rickie is my Hero..... so the fact that I found these cobra's just made it more sweeter LOL!

Yeah Exactice welcome back, brah. Took you long enough and hang loose with those Cobras.

 

LOL.....its one of those...you know what dont fight it moments LOL!!!!.... That and my Nike Blades need retirement...I mean its down to the bare metal, and rusting on the leading edge.... Sad part is I pulled the PW-6 and put the Nike blades in for a work out and played the 5 & 4 AP2's...started shooting better .... so the Cobra's were truly meant to be...

 

Excited like a little kid on Christmas Eve....

[Bigmean]

Welcome back!

 

I would game the sheeeiitt out of those itobori blades. That is their best design yet! Hammered muscle and clean sole etc. if I wasn't convinced those are so cheap on there to get you to call to be talked out of them because they suck and unavailable and sold other things (there is a story like that on wrx maybe JDM forum), I would really consider those. That is bringing the artisan scene hard in a really good way.

 

I think that may not be best first step into JDM though. Those could very well suck hahaha. That is a more advanced JDM HO set to get. I think as much as I would get those of the bunch to answer the question again, I think not good for a trial with JDM. I would get the Kyoei without hesitations. It is a set that even hardcore JDM guys sweat, and the reason is they look sick and Kyoei, at lest in my vega experiance, is best soft going. Anyway, those are what you need to start. You don't even have to like them, you will but you won't. They will be different enough for you to appreciate why JDM guys are so into it. You take a set of those Kyoei and hold them next to a set off whatever is $1000 at the store, and jjst the impression of quality in comparison, not even with feel or weighing heads, they just look twice as nice. So here is my point, I got the fourteen fh1000, maybe I had another set too, but it took me until the Vegas and the Miuras to get it. I was ready to bail on JDM before I ordered the small Blades. In fact, that was a final stand buy. I got one of the things that had a legit cult following and I expected it to be like the fourteens which utterly crushed me initially on JDM. I remember I was recovering from a broken rib, and I brought an 8 to range and hit like a dozen 1/2 shots and I had a smile glued to my face. That was the first time I felt like "Ok, this being worth the money is debatable either way, but it is undebatable that this feel/feedback (forget amazing as I am a Miura feel fan as it turns out) has such a personal fingerprint on it, and an amazing one at that. That set made me hang with JDM and the Vegas were next and are another one with a fingerprint and Kyoei has arguably one of the best feels you can get if you jive with their feel, so those sets were needed for me to get it.. now I could hit an ibotori or whatever, but I would imagine it feels like my buchi, which wedges I have gamed for almost 2 years and I still don't know if I like their feel or not.

 

I can say that about them because I read JDM reviews from people on forums. If you hit enough JDM, not all but enough different houses and brands, you can use a complex science known as JDM HOstronomy to test hit clubs you can't test hit. See, using what you know about certain brands feels, you know someone you can trust on feel, and more often than not, within the JDM HO society, there is a lot of aggreance on feel. I think it is not cult like parroting, but because it is actually there. In JDM, where there is smoke, there is fire. So using this JDM hostronomy, I know how epon feels more or less, and I have not hit an epon club. I have hit prgr idbls, and people have hit those and epon 302s, and I have heard more than once that they feel very close to epons at a fraction. I also have a romaro wedge that is also endo and when I bid in the epon wedges I lost, I leaned on that heavily as what I was getting. So you create your own feel/brand chart based on brands you hit, then you add what you have read on other sets when those people compare to things you have hit, and expand that as your virtual test hitting, then you connect dots in a constellation like way where you are guesstimating the feel on something based on a couple different forum posts and what those guys said and you start drawing reasonable conclusions on things that literally have no information about them in English aside from 2 forum posts. If someone said muziik feels like a softer geotech. I have never hit geotech but say I read it feels not too firm, but not too soft and like the buchi X. So now I have a common denominator to work back from. That is why it is really Important for JDM how to document reviews of JDM gear in forums so that the information can be added to the JDM Hostralogical database and enable more JDM HOs to consume clubs blind with a little confidence in something...... JDM clubhouse is a great place to look too for info (Awesome site, a lot of the guys are here too).

 

 

On that a quick aside from my last rounds. So after 3/4 straight rounds with the staffs, I rocked 36 with the Miuras. Well previous staff round I hit bad everything. Anyway, I still suck, but I had some real command over my irons and it is funny, I was so used to that hollow ball not there feeling that I was hitting really good irons and knowing I missed, guaranteed same shots with the staffs feel the same, and flush straight punches you in the face like this is what golf feels like remember.

[dog flog]

Ok so just for an update my 2i "wear spot" experiment isn't working out so well because the entire black boron coating is wearing from rubbing against grass as much as contact with the ball. Here is the evolution of the face wear from 1) brand new to 2) after one round to 3) after about three rounds and a small bucket of range balls:

 

 

 

 

 

It is tough to tell, but at this point it seems that I am wearing a round-ish spot a little closer to the hosel than at the dead center of the clubface. Anyway, over time a wear spot may become more clear and distinct, but at the moment it is really tough to tell what is ball wear vs grass rubbing. Regardless, I'm going to keep it in the gamer bag and I'm very good with the wear spot being where it is because it feels awesome hitting it wherever that may be.

Thanks D, for giving me the opportunity to use my little-used Art Mooney link.

[DeNinny]

Curious as to what percentage of users in this thread prefer driving irons over hybrids/fairway woods. Do you think there is any correlation between the die hard blade user and driving iron users?

 

I can't stand hybrids. I went through a phase of trying to like them but every side by side hitting session with one and an equivalent wood and/or iron resulted in an extremely underwhelming experience. Nothing was gained by it over the other clubs and it would be yet another different type of club in the bag, so I'm done with hybrids. I also find them ugly too. Not FUGLY like SGI irons ugly, but still ugly. All that said, the Titleist 585h was one I could have gamed OK.

 

I'm on the fence between blade 3i vs 7w and blade 2i vs 5w. It really doesn't matter but I am tending more and more towards having more blades in the bag. (LOL I can't go wrong based on the science.)

To me a hybrid is just one of my woods. No different from the 7 or the 9. They are all my children and thus, all beautiful. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

That's cool, df, and it allows me to post a Flip Wilson bit for ya!

 

http://youtu.be/O_6vhgSAhuI

[DeNinny]

LOL.....its one of those...you know what dont fight it moments LOL!!!!.... That and my Nike Blades need retirement...I mean its down to the bare metal, and rusting on the leading edge.... Sad part is I pulled the PW-6 and put the Nike blades in for a work out and played the 5 & 4 AP2's...started shooting better .... so the Cobra's were truly meant to be...

 

Excited like a little kid on Christmas Eve....

R.I.P and a moment of silence for those Nikes of yours...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...They were a sweet set and taught you a lot about this game. Beautiful lines too. May they look down on you from blades heaven and find solace in knowing that in the end, you saw the light and came back to full blades. Amen.

 

Get those Cobras shafted and fitted up and you will be back in ball compression bladey bliss again. Hallelujah!!!

[DeNinny]

Welcome back!

 

I would game the sheeeiitt out of those itobori blades. That is their best design yet! Hammered muscle and clean sole etc. if I wasn't convinced those are so cheap on there to get you to call to be talked out of them because they suck and unavailable and sold other things (there is a story like that on wrx maybe JDM forum), I would really consider those. That is bringing the artisan scene hard in a really good way.

 

I think that may not be best first step into JDM though. Those could very well suck hahaha. That is a more advanced JDM HO set to get. I think as much as I would get those of the bunch to answer the question again, I think not good for a trial with JDM. I would get the Kyoei without hesitations. It is a set that even hardcore JDM guys sweat, and the reason is they look sick and Kyoei, at lest in my vega experiance, is best soft going. Anyway, those are what you need to start. You don't even have to like them, you will but you won't. They will be different enough for you to appreciate why JDM guys are so into it. You take a set of those Kyoei and hold them next to a set off whatever is $1000 at the store, and jjst the impression of quality in comparison, not even with feel or weighing heads, they just look twice as nice. So here is my point, I got the fourteen fh1000, maybe I had another set too, but it took me until the Vegas and the Miuras to get it. I was ready to bail on JDM before I ordered the small Blades. In fact, that was a final stand buy. I got one of the things that had a legit cult following and I expected it to be like the fourteens which utterly crushed me initially on JDM. I remember I was recovering from a broken rib, and I brought an 8 to range and hit like a dozen 1/2 shots and I had a smile glued to my face. That was the first time I felt like "Ok, this being worth the money is debatable either way, but it is undebatable that this feel/feedback (forget amazing as I am a Miura feel fan as it turns out) has such a personal fingerprint on it, and an amazing one at that. That set made me hang with JDM and the Vegas were next and are another one with a fingerprint and Kyoei has arguably one of the best feels you can get if you jive with their feel, so those sets were needed for me to get it.. now I could hit an ibotori or whatever, but I would imagine it feels like my buchi, which wedges I have gamed for almost 2 years and I still don't know if I like their feel or not.

 

I can say that about them because I read JDM reviews from people on forums. If you hit enough JDM, not all but enough different houses and brands, you can use a complex science known as JDM HOstronomy to test hit clubs you can't test hit. See, using what you know about certain brands feels, you know someone you can trust on feel, and more often than not, within the JDM HO society, there is a lot of aggreance on feel. I think it is not cult like parroting, but because it is actually there. In JDM, where there is smoke, there is fire. So using this JDM hostronomy, I know how epon feels more or less, and I have not hit an epon club. I have hit prgr idbls, and people have hit those and epon 302s, and I have heard more than once that they feel very close to epons at a fraction. I also have a romaro wedge that is also endo and when I bid in the epon wedges I lost, I leaned on that heavily as what I was getting. So you create your own feel/brand chart based on brands you hit, then you add what you have read on other sets when those people compare to things you have hit, and expand that as your virtual test hitting, then you connect dots in a constellation like way where you are guesstimating the feel on something based on a couple different forum posts and what those guys said and you start drawing reasonable conclusions on things that literally have no information about them in English aside from 2 forum posts. If someone said muziik feels like a softer geotech. I have never hit geotech but say I read it feels not too firm, but not too soft and like the buchi X. So now I have a common denominator to work back from. That is why it is really Important for JDM how to document reviews of JDM gear in forums so that the information can be added to the JDM Hostralogical database and enable more JDM HOs to consume clubs blind with a little confidence in something...... JDM clubhouse is a great place to look too for info (Awesome site, a lot of the guys are here too).

 

 

On that a quick aside from my last rounds. So after 3/4 straight rounds with the staffs, I rocked 36 with the Miuras. Well previous staff round I hit bad everything. Anyway, I still suck, but I had some real command over my irons and it is funny, I was so used to that hollow ball not there feeling that I was hitting really good irons and knowing I missed, guaranteed same shots with the staffs feel the same, and flush straight punches you in the face like this is what golf feels like remember.

 

I'm not keen on that Itobori textured pattern on the muscle. But it should go good with your alligator skin white belt!

 

LOL hostronomy is too funny. USDM is hostrology. I'm thinking that all those different feels will be from all the differences in the house forging and blade manufacturer forging processes. Each process manipulates the orientation of the iron and carbon in relation to one another, and so on both molecular and micro levels there is a literal different structure which ultimately creates a unique feel. In theory and if we had the data and micro level structural pictures of the different blade heads, we would be able to tell how it feels from that alone, and LOL it should match the hostronomy.

[kaaayelll]

turtsoup, you have a lot of options with that shape as I strongly believe all of those are from the Kyoei KCM blank. Differences will just be a matter of grind, offset, finish, and a few other small details. You can go ahead and add A Grind, Yururi, and Vega VM-01 to your list. I have a set of those Crazy MB I still haven't shafted up. :( Enjoy your search. If Miura becomes a consideration, give me a shout as I can probably help.

[wmblake2000]

Welcome back!

 

I would game the sheeeiitt out of those itobori blades. That is their best design yet! Hammered muscle and clean sole etc. if I wasn't convinced those are so cheap on there to get you to call to be talked out of them because they suck and unavailable and sold other things (there is a story like that on wrx maybe JDM forum), I would really consider those. That is bringing the artisan scene hard in a really good way.

 

I think that may not be best first step into JDM though. Those could very well suck hahaha. That is a more advanced JDM HO set to get. I think as much as I would get those of the bunch to answer the question again, I think not good for a trial with JDM. I would get the Kyoei without hesitations. It is a set that even hardcore JDM guys sweat, and the reason is they look sick and Kyoei, at lest in my vega experiance, is best soft going. Anyway, those are what you need to start. You don't even have to like them, you will but you won't. They will be different enough for you to appreciate why JDM guys are so into it. You take a set of those Kyoei and hold them next to a set off whatever is $1000 at the store, and jjst the impression of quality in comparison, not even with feel or weighing heads, they just look twice as nice. So here is my point, I got the fourteen fh1000, maybe I had another set too, but it took me until the Vegas and the Miuras to get it. I was ready to bail on JDM before I ordered the small Blades. In fact, that was a final stand buy. I got one of the things that had a legit cult following and I expected it to be like the fourteens which utterly crushed me initially on JDM. I remember I was recovering from a broken rib, and I brought an 8 to range and hit like a dozen 1/2 shots and I had a smile glued to my face. That was the first time I felt like "Ok, this being worth the money is debatable either way, but it is undebatable that this feel/feedback (forget amazing as I am a Miura feel fan as it turns out) has such a personal fingerprint on it, and an amazing one at that. That set made me hang with JDM and the Vegas were next and are another one with a fingerprint and Kyoei has arguably one of the best feels you can get if you jive with their feel, so those sets were needed for me to get it.. now I could hit an ibotori or whatever, but I would imagine it feels like my buchi, which wedges I have gamed for almost 2 years and I still don't know if I like their feel or not.

 

I can say that about them because I read JDM reviews from people on forums. If you hit enough JDM, not all but enough different houses and brands, you can use a complex science known as JDM HOstronomy to test hit clubs you can't test hit. See, using what you know about certain brands feels, you know someone you can trust on feel, and more often than not, within the JDM HO society, there is a lot of aggreance on feel. I think it is not cult like parroting, but because it is actually there. In JDM, where there is smoke, there is fire. So using this JDM hostronomy, I know how epon feels more or less, and I have not hit an epon club. I have hit prgr idbls, and people have hit those and epon 302s, and I have heard more than once that they feel very close to epons at a fraction. I also have a romaro wedge that is also endo and when I bid in the epon wedges I lost, I leaned on that heavily as what I was getting. So you create your own feel/brand chart based on brands you hit, then you add what you have read on other sets when those people compare to things you have hit, and expand that as your virtual test hitting, then you connect dots in a constellation like way where you are guesstimating the feel on something based on a couple different forum posts and what those guys said and you start drawing reasonable conclusions on things that literally have no information about them in English aside from 2 forum posts. If someone said muziik feels like a softer geotech. I have never hit geotech but say I read it feels not too firm, but not too soft and like the buchi X. So now I have a common denominator to work back from. That is why it is really Important for JDM how to document reviews of JDM gear in forums so that the information can be added to the JDM Hostralogical database and enable more JDM HOs to consume clubs blind with a little confidence in something...... JDM clubhouse is a great place to look too for info (Awesome site, a lot of the guys are here too).

 

 

On that a quick aside from my last rounds. So after 3/4 straight rounds with the staffs, I rocked 36 with the Miuras. Well previous staff round I hit bad everything. Anyway, I still suck, but I had some real command over my irons and it is funny, I was so used to that hollow ball not there feeling that I was hitting really good irons and knowing I missed, guaranteed same shots with the staffs feel the same, and flush straight punches you in the face like this is what golf feels like remember.

 

Holy mackerel... Hostronony?

[Bigmean]

Ho Navigation by stars? Sounded good after a few beers last night LOL.

 

 

NCN, it is too late as I have already over committed to this, but I would greatly appreciate if you don't mind in your boredom at a computer in no particular hurry any info you get me on the Japanese interwebs about masda studio 296 putters. I believe that these are handmade by the man, and basically like the masda custom made shop putters. However I have a lot of presumption and assumption built into that.

 

 

KC, the nelsons feel terrible.

[turtsoup]

turtsoup, you have a lot of options with that shape as I strongly believe all of those are from the Kyoei KCM blank. Differences will just be a matter of grind, offset, finish, and a few other small details. You can go ahead and add A Grind, Yururi, and Vega VM-01 to your list. I have a set of those Crazy MB I still haven't shafted up. :( Enjoy your search. If Miura becomes a consideration, give me a shout as I can probably help.

 

Awesome, thank you. Yeah I'm pretty sure Miura would def be considered.

[bodhi555]

Exactice, I hope you enjoy those great sticks. One of my golf buddies won a Cobra/Puma competition a few years back that included a set of Cobra clubs personally fitted by the Cobra European Tour fitter. My mate chose those AMP Pros and had them fitted at the Belfry (of Ryder Cup fame)...and then played with them in California with Poulter, Fowler and the other Cobra staffers at clinics/Pro-Am, etc around the Frys.com Open iirc. Needless to say he loves his Cobra gear! Glad to see you've come back from the dark side ;-)

 

Damn That sounds like a hellava experience...... Rickie is my Hero..... so the fact that I found these cobra's just made it more sweeter LOL!

Yeah Exactice welcome back, brah. Took you long enough and hang loose with those Cobras.

 

LOL.....its one of those...you know what dont fight it moments LOL!!!!.... That and my Nike Blades need retirement...I mean its down to the bare metal, and rusting on the leading edge.... Sad part is I pulled the PW-6 and put the Nike blades in for a work out and played the 5 & 4 AP2's...started shooting better .... so the Cobra's were truly meant to be...

 

Excited like a little kid on Christmas Eve....

 

Love the Cobras, but a moment of silence for the death of a set of God's own blades :)

 

OK, I'll shut up about the Nikes now.

[NRJyzr]

I mean no offense, but I find all the JDM and Miura lust to be a bit amusing. Though I'm sure y'all find my interest in Ram Tour Grinds equally so. LOL

 

I think it's easier my way. I can't find a new set of Golden Rams, but I *do* own five sets of Ram Tour Grinds at a total cost of $620

[DeNinny]

By the way, turtsoup that is a nice avatar. Beautiful dogs.