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[lefthack]

After my swing evaluation, the guy said I should talk to a guy about bending my irons 2* upright due to my height. He took some measurements and looked at my swing and said 2* would be a solid start. 

 

He commented on the looks of my Skully irons and we talked about them being a very cheap set of Chinese metal. I gave him the spec sheet and the lies were close, but all the lifts were a touch strong. So he bent the lie 2* upright and adjusted the loft to match the specs. He said these seemed like very high quality irons that bent well and the finish still looks incredible. There are a few small marks from the machine, but you really can't tell. He laughed and said "makes you wonder just how cheap some of these clubs really are." If something this nice was only $231 🤣 

 

Edited January 27 by lefthack

[PedronNiall]

21 hours ago, lefthack said:

After my swing evaluation, the guy said I should talk to a guy about bending my irons 2* upright due to my height. He took some measurements and looked at my swing and said 2* would be a solid start. 

 

He commented on the looks of my Skully irons and we talked about them being a very cheap set of Chinese metal. I gave him the spec sheet and the lies were close, but all the lifts were a touch strong. So he bent the lie 2* upright and adjusted the loft to match the specs. He said these seemed like very high quality irons that bent well and the finish still looks incredible. There are a few small marks from the machine, but you really can't tell. He laughed and said "makes you wonder just how cheap some of these clubs really are." If something this nice was only $231 🤣 

 

 

Probably not wrong that we get hit in the head on pricing a lot harder than we should. 

 

TBF, a lot of the cost is in optimizing head shapes and potentially the forging process. Not surprised companies coming into the game later, especially if they have insiders who used to work for experiences OEMs, can make irons that are 90% or more "there" at a pretty low cost. They may have also gone the route of choosing less preferred grades of steel, which Wilson has found out is not a detriment to feel or performance. There's also cost in QA and making it right if something's wrong which isn't going to be a thing for unknowns. 

 

Also isn't what you paid normally based on buying 10 sets minimum or something? 

[lefthack]

1 hour ago, PedronNiall said:

 

Probably not wrong that we get hit in the head on pricing a lot harder than we should. 

 

TBF, a lot of the cost is in optimizing head shapes and potentially the forging process. Not surprised companies coming into the game later, especially if they have insiders who used to work for experiences OEMs, can make irons that are 90% or more "there" at a pretty low cost. They may have also gone the route of choosing less preferred grades of steel, which Wilson has found out is not a detriment to feel or performance. There's also cost in QA and making it right if something's wrong which isn't going to be a thing for unknowns. 

 

Also isn't what you paid normally based on buying 10 sets minimum or something? 

 

No, I paid $25 a head as the sample price. The quote for 10 was $16.80 a head.

Edited January 28 by lefthack
I looked it up

[NRJyzr]

1 hour ago, PedronNiall said:

a lot of the cost is in optimizing head shapes and potentially the forging process.

 

I can't say I agree.  From assorted financial info I've seen, the primary cost is driven by endorsements and marketing/advertising.

 

[lefthack]

2 minutes ago, NRJyzr said:

 

I can't say I agree.  From assorted financial info I've seen, the primary cost is driven by endorsements and marketing/advertising.

 

 

I would agree that Nike spent a lot more for Tiger than they did for the Oven that built his irons. 🤣

[NixLix26]

Sweet 714 MB 3-PW with S300’s look like they had never been hit. For $200. Score!!  I have played many blades through the years. These feel great. My eight iron after the first range session. Wish I could make that mark on all the strikes. 

Edited January 28 by NixLix26

[PedronNiall]

9 hours ago, lefthack said:

 

No, I paid $25 a head as the sample price. The quote for 10 was $16.80 a head.

 

Not too shabby. They'd do well to find an outlet to make it easier to get their heads if the quality is consistent. Not surprising guys just bought into Takomo with the crazy margins they're getting for slightly updated heads from a similar source, and the manufacturer you found would allow for even better margins than that. 

 

9 hours ago, NRJyzr said:

 

I can't say I agree.  From assorted financial info I've seen, the primary cost is driven by endorsements and marketing/advertising.

 

 

Fair enough, and it does make sense given there's only a few bills difference in forged vs non-forged, blades or otherwise. 

[Moarbutter]

14 hours ago, PedronNiall said:

 

Probably not wrong that we get hit in the head on pricing a lot harder than we should. 

 

TBF, a lot of the cost is in optimizing head shapes and potentially the forging process. Not surprised companies coming into the game later, especially if they have insiders who used to work for experiences OEMs, can make irons that are 90% or more "there" at a pretty low cost. They may have also gone the route of choosing less preferred grades of steel, which Wilson has found out is not a detriment to feel or performance. There's also cost in QA and making it right if something's wrong which isn't going to be a thing for unknowns. 

 

Also isn't what you paid normally based on buying 10 sets minimum or something? 

 

@lefthack this take from @PedronNiall feels bang on to me. The raw cost of the steel is probably only going to be a few dollars, and if they are pulling the heads off another assembly line, the per unit price is going to be stupid low. In any manufacturing process, the marginal cost of each individual unit is always shockingly low - almost all of the cost associated with production goes into creation, maintenance, upkeep, iteration, etc. 

[lefthack]

11 hours ago, Moarbutter said:

 

@lefthack this take from @PedronNiall feels bang on to me. The raw cost of the steel is probably only going to be a few dollars, and if they are pulling the heads off another assembly line, the per unit price is going to be stupid low. In any manufacturing process, the marginal cost of each individual unit is always shockingly low - almost all of the cost associated with production goes into creation, maintenance, upkeep, iteration, etc. 

 

As an open mold, it's basically a Miura MB101 so there isn't any R&D costs. It's a proven design, so if you smash a quality piece of steel, you get a quality result.

[JAGaff]

First full season with these bad boys in the bag.

 

Safe to say I’m glad i got rid of the P7MBs last year 

 

[PedronNiall]

Anyone tried these puppers out? Don't recall seeing any in the thread. 

 

 

15% off through Friday and kind of tempted to give 'em a whirl.

[CoachZee]

My MP33 obsession - 3 sets and growing 🙂.  I just reshafted one set and installed Icon ferrules…yummy!!!

 

[Kingcat990]

Mother of God. Love the faces of these irons . Timeless design. 

 

[craz-e]

Promised myself a treat after achieving a certain milestone. 
Will put into play over the weekend, monthly medal on Sat followed up by a club comp on Sunday.

They do look pretty 

[Moarbutter]

On 1/30/2025 at 11:54 PM, craz-e said:

Promised myself a treat after achieving a certain milestone. 
Will put into play over the weekend, monthly medal on Sat followed up by a club comp on Sunday.

They do look pretty 

 

Congrats on the milestone!!! Them are purrrrrty. Definitely curious to hear your thoughts of these vs. your KM700s

[3rutu5]

Well I landed the 2 iron for the HY special editions (plus another 3i and AW) and they look basically untouched. Now it makes my set look old haha 

[Nard_S]

6 hours ago, 3rutu5 said:

Well I landed the 2 iron for the HY special editions (plus another 3i and AW) and they look basically untouched. Now it makes my set look old haha 

Nice!

[Moarbutter]

Anyone heard anything about this?

 

 

[craz-e]

Quick update on the TW irons after 4 rounds (sorry to those who are currently unable to get out).

There is some magic in these irons for sure. I have been struggling with both of my other sets of irons (P7 MB and KM700’s) being able to hit a knock down that hits the flight window I am looking for, both of those irons tend to come out higher than I’d like. The TW’s just give you ultimate control, high, low or left and right.
 

Feel wise against my other two sets, the P7 MB’s are easily the softest.

The Miura and TW’s are not too dissimilar with a solid punch sensation at impact, a dense very addictive feeling.

 

For anyone considering the TW’s I would say go for it. I can see why they have made it into so many bags on tour.

 

 

 

Edited February 7 by craz-e

[subrew]

I was going to play these this morning for the first time since I built them, but it was 37 degrees and the course is pretty muddy.  So I'm saving them for when it gets up to 40 degrees, and conditions dry out a tad 😀

 

3-PW Adams MB2.  And I know this is against the unwritten rules of building/playing blades.  I know I'm supposed to use 130g X-Stiff shafts, but I like them light and soft.  So these got built with a set of Evenflow 50g graphite ladies flex shafts.  I know, I know.  Deep breaths everyone.  I'm 50yo, have a KLPGA like smooth tempo, and totally average swing speed.  I find using lighter/softer shafts works really well with blades, as I can actually get some launch and height out of clubs I probably shouldn't be playing.  It is amazing how useable a set of blades are when you can actually hit a 4 or 5 iron, and get reasonable height, spin, and descent angle.

 

I picked up a set of CB2 heads, that I'll be building up soon.  That way I can have a nice combo set when I'm feeling combo-y.  

 

 

[subrew]

And in order to save the MB2 from super cold muddy conditions, I played these the past couple days.  A 7-9 small set of Sub70 639MB.  I think I'll try to find a CB 6i to add to the top.  

 

 

[OrangeGravy]

On 9/18/2024 at 8:40 PM, No_Catchy_Nickname said:

A couple of rounds recently, one with old Mizuno MP4s (actually MS4s with custom stamping) and one with newer Mizuno MP4s.

 

My tee game is still shaky, but my putting continues to let me down. Irons are the best part of my game right now.

 

With the old MS4s, I shot 80 around a pretty challenging course (VERY thick rough for one thing) with 34 putts. Iron highlights included a 7i from a fairway bunker to about 15ft to a back pin, a PW third shot on a par 5 from very thick rough to 4-foot after I had driven into a bunker and hit out with a 6i, and an 8i on the last hole to 6-foot that I had to hit from a weird hanging lie in the rough and draw round a large tree in front of me. 

 

I didn't make any of those putts, by the way.The longest I made was a 4-footer for par after a tremendous bunker shot on a long-ish par three.

 

Then with the new MP4s the other day, I shot 85 in my club's monthly comp. 6 GiR on the front nine for a 42, and 5 GiR on the back 9 for a 43. 39 putts in total. Highlights included a missed birdie putt from 8-foot on the 7th after a beautiful long flop wedge over a tree, a missed birdie putt from 4-foot on the 9th, and a 1-foot putt missed on the 10th that would have saved me a double bogey after an horrendous tee shot that went OB. 

 

Putting and a couple of poor tee shots (including that OB that was hit with a hybrid) cost me. 

 

 

 

Those rounds sound eerily familiar.  I spend every summer turning 78s into 80-85. 

[OrangeGravy]

On 10/7/2024 at 2:12 PM, Nard_S said:

Right? The PT is a pain royale, funny i make the most progress after i play golf. 10 days ago could not lift arm under own power above pecs. Played 18 a few days later, then go PT, arm shoots up, lol. At 4 months, that's when things start clicking but I have at least another 4, just to tighten and strengthen. Hitting the gym, hitting balls too. Have a ways to go but thrilled i can lift arm.

I've had my R R-cuff fixed twice. Took me until the 2nd season back to regain my speed 

[Nard_S]

4 hours ago, OrangeGravy said:

I've had my R R-cuff fixed twice. Took me until the 2nd season back to regain my speed 

I believe it, my expectations are tempered, it's now 8 months and my cuff is weak. My PT is not to needs but i'm pain free. Work schedule is so heavy and i cannot even look at golf clubs or rehab things. I love golf but care so much less about it these days. A win will be getting out every Sunday and just chasing a ball.

[Kingcat990]

Been 2 years since my labrum tear surgery and I have lost more than swing speed. Have lost some swing mobility that creeps up before I can make the turn. In fact I believe it's tearing again. Have had bad shoulders for years, seems the only area of my life it impacts is golf, sadly. 

[Nard_S]

53 minutes ago, Kingcat990 said:

Been 2 years since my labrum tear surgery and I have lost more than swing speed. Have lost some swing mobility that creeps up before I can make the turn. In fact I believe it's tearing again. Have had bad shoulders for years, seems the only area of my life it impacts is golf, sadly. 

The ability to function my right hand over chest height is severely compromised. Golf wise, the ability to keep elbow under hand the hand at top is fully challenged but i think i can get there. I always needed a shorter swing, i may get my wish by way of disability, lol.

[OrangeGravy]

19 hours ago, Nard_S said:

I believe it, my expectations are tempered, it's now 8 months and my cuff is weak. My PT is not to needs but i'm pain free. Work schedule is so heavy and i cannot even look at golf clubs or rehab things. I love golf but care so much less about it these days. A win will be getting out every Sunday and just chasing a ball.

I hear you there. Just playing pain free is a win. After my 2nd surgery my surgeon said eventually I'll need replacement surgery.  I'm 51 now. Hoping to squeeze 10 more years out of it before that happens 

[Nard_S]

4 hours ago, OrangeGravy said:

I hear you there. Just playing pain free is a win. After my 2nd surgery my surgeon said eventually I'll need replacement surgery.  I'm 51 now. Hoping to squeeze 10 more years out of it before that happens 

My doc says the same, replacement and I'm not interested at all. Been living with damaged shoulders for decades, took a heavy slam to destroy an already damaged unit. I've learned that i probably never utilized shoulders safely. If you yank & torque or extend you need to have cuff muscles properly contracted before you do it, you need those small muscles "fit" in a way that day to day living does not promote all that well. The healthiest my shoulders felt was when I was working out  3X a week, if i maintained that, probably would have been okay., so my way avoiding replacement will be that prescription but tuned to current state on hand.

[uglande]

Anyone have the current or previous Wilson Staff blades? Would love your feedback. 

[PedronNiall]

25 minutes ago, uglande said:

Anyone have the current or previous Wilson Staff blades? Would love your feedback. 

 

Butter. Magic. And so on. I'd recommend searching for the main thread on Wilson irons and looking at the vids from TXG/Club Champion. They are ridiculously forgiving, pretty much zero difference between them and the CBs, and easier to hit than any other blade I've come across. 

 

You can look at the muscle design and see some of why they play so well; the area behind strike zone is pretty much a cavity. That, the bounce and design of the sole, and what they've done with their standard fluid feel hosel to redistribute weight allow them to get slightly larger head length that plays like it was handed down by the gods.