Blade users thread (NO DEBATING CLUBHEADS! NO Buy Sell Trade!)

[NRJyzr]

[quote name='Bigmean' timestamp='1422207028' post='10815111']
Maybe I don't fully understand, are the heads weight made to be a specific finished gram and SW per iron (I assume yes), but in addition to that, the club companies that offer different SWs for their sets would do this with actual heads and not tip weights? That sounds crazy cost ineffective.
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There's always a weight spec with finished clubs, it's usually plus or minus a specified number of grams. The tighter the tolerance, the greater the rejection rate, the higher the price.

Essentially, the idea is taking all finished clubheads, weigh them and sort them accordingly. Then use them to fill the niches as needed.

Some companies may weigh the heads, but not assemble according to a sorted grouping, and add weight in the hosel as necessary. And some don't bother, figuring no one will notice.

This is not just now, but was the same in Ye Olden Tymes, as well. I've seen older clubs with lead in the hosel from companies with good reps as far as consistency.

IMHO, worrying about lead to match one or two swingweight points is trivial. If you're talking 5 pts off, different story altogether.

Some companies also produce heavier heads they use for graphite shafted assembly, to bring up the swingweight enough without increasing the length of the club. Usually about 6-10g, depending on what shafts they use and all that.

[JJMAC1]

[quote name='bladehunter' timestamp='1422143065' post='10811647']
I'm with you bM. I honestly don't think equipment matters near as much as people think. Sort of like putters. I have my favorites. But I hover around 29-30 putts a round no mater what I use. What I would give for a round with 25 putts.
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yup. Its all marketing and the "shiny coin" issue all humans have. I still haven't found anything that I can hit better than my Hogan FTX's. I try and love my I-20's as much... and I play them currently...but only because they are new and I feel guilty for buying them!

[nickbran]

[quote name='Bigmean' timestamp='1422207028' post='10815111']
Maybe I don't fully understand, are the heads weight made to be a specific finished gram and SW per iron (I assume yes), but in addition to that, the club companies that offer different SWs for their sets would do this with actual heads and not tip weights? That sounds crazy cost ineffective.
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The heads should have 7 gram incremental differences. They don't, so they have to put weights to have the same swing weights from head to head.

[Willian70]

Late to the party but.....I am a 10 handicap and play Mizuno MP-67. I found my Brand new Mp-67s 3-PW on Craigslist for 150. I have to say I have only played golf for one year and have 3 sets of irons, Adams Tight Lies, Wilson Staff Ci11s, and my blades. I however cheat on my MP-67s from time to time with the Ci11s however I have already put the Mizzy's back in the bag for Spring of 2015. When looking at my other clubs I feel they are not as sexy and smooth. I love the feeling of taking a clean divot and watching my ball fly. I know exactly the distance, shot shape, and spin control I get with these irons. I lay awake at night thinking about the buttery goodness these clubs provide. I am a blade lover and will not be told to change my feelings.

With that being said, anyone else feel that their mishit with their blades just ends up shorter than expected? I rarely get the shocking sting in the hands from these bad boys but that could be because I use over-sized grips. My Ci11s the mishit tens to be a fade/push? Anyways....I am addicted to BLADES!

[JJMAC1]

[quote name='Willian70' timestamp='1422225715' post='10816781']
Late to the party but.....I am a 10 handicap and play Mizuno MP-67. I found my Brand new Mp-67s 3-PW on Craigslist for 150. I have to say I have only played golf for one year and have 3 sets of irons, Adams Tight Lies, Wilson Staff Ci11s, and my blades. I however cheat on my MP-67s from time to time with the Ci11s however I have already put the Mizzy's back in the bag for Spring of 2015. When looking at my other clubs I feel they are not as sexy and smooth. I love the feeling of taking a clean divot and watching my ball fly. I know exactly the distance, shot shape, and spin control I get with these irons. I lay awake at night thinking about the buttery goodness these clubs provide. I am a blade lover and will not be told to change my feelings.

With that being said, anyone else feel that their mishit with their blades just ends up shorter than expected? I rarely get the shocking sting in the hands from these bad boys but that could be because I use over-sized grips. My Ci11s the mishit tens to be a fade/push? Anyways....I am addicted to BLADES!
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Same here. Maybe its because I learned on an old set of blades. But I can't hit GI irons worth and damn. The offset just screws everything up for me.

[bladehunter]

well guys ....the Razr MB made their course debut this eveing.... 9 twilight holes ...about 50 degrees....some wind... and while I did shoot 3 over...I hit some very nice iron shots... Im really loving these.. the 6 7 8 9 iron are near identical to my mp68 but where they shine are 3 4 5 ... the long irons just are so easy to hit comparably.. one par 4 I always tee off with a 3 iron...hard dogleg left ..I can go all out and not worry about going long.. well today I hit it through the fairway by 10 yards.... that's how much easier they are to hit...same exact shaft as the mp68... but swing weight comes out 2 points lighter on the callaway...which I like.. I don't like switching ..but cant argue with the results... we will see I guess... anyone else hate changing irons ? but love buying them and trying them out??

[adizero]

@ Nickbran: The headweights of the irons should increase from long iron to wedges by +/- 7 grams per head. For Example my irons 3-pw are 243g, 250g, 257g, 264, 271, 278,286,295, gap 296grams, lob 302grams.

The main thing is to have consistency from club to club. 1-1.5 grams is within tolerance and you will not notice it. What you dont want is a mismatched progression where some are way off. You don't want a 7 iron to feel like a 9 or a 5 iron.

As you know the set gets heavier (heads), to compensate for lighter shaft weight due to decreasing length.

Some manufacturers give their expected headweights in their specification notes. The better ones are within .5 grams tolerance. Mine are from KZG, forged by Kyoei in Japan.

[DeNinny]

[quote name='Willian70' timestamp='1422225715' post='10816781']
Late to the party but.....I am a 10 handicap and play Mizuno MP-67. I found my Brand new Mp-67s 3-PW on Craigslist for 150. I have to say I have only played golf for one year and have 3 sets of irons, Adams Tight Lies, Wilson Staff Ci11s, and my blades. [i][b]I however cheat on my MP-67s from time to time w[/b][/i]ith the Ci11s however I have already put the Mizzy's back in the bag for Spring of 2015. When looking at my other clubs I feel they are not as sexy and smooth. I love the feeling of taking a clean divot and watching my ball fly. I know exactly the distance, shot shape, and spin control I get with these irons. I lay awake at night thinking about the buttery goodness these clubs provide. I am a blade lover and will not be told to change my feelings.

With that being said, anyone else feel that their mishit with their blades just ends up shorter than expected? I rarely get the shocking sting in the hands from these bad boys but that could be because I use over-sized grips. My Ci11s the mishit tens to be a fade/push? Anyways....I am addicted to BLADES!
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Hehehe I like how you said cheating on your blades from time to time. I see it the same way with mine when I switch to my MP-60s.

My MP-67 mishits go shorter and the distance is proportional to how bad the shot was. On average the distance is a few yards difference. And I do get that shocking sting but it is primarily only when it is cold and it happens more often on mats on the range than on the course. This is one of the reasons I switch to MP-60s in the winter and cold weather. They are a little easier on the hands and lead elbow when I mishit.

Welcome to the party!

[Bigmean]

BH,

I love my sets for range and occasional rounds, so I think I do play them a little more than you, but at the same time, "my" set doesn't change much or easily. I mean, granted I took 5/6 years off until last year, but I was rocking mp 14s until the end of the summer if that says anything. Now my injury allowed me too much time to Ho it up some, but I get attatched.

People may not realize this here because I have posted so much, but my Miuras came in the mail literally a day after I first broke my rib. All my time with them until my round Saturday was range and getting over that injury. So my very first on course round with them was that 83 with a 2 over front and my blow up of 3 doubles in last 4 holes to end up where I did, so I played very strong iron wise, my blow ups were tee/short game. I am very feel and address look oriented, and I already knew from the range that these were it based on that and my dispersion with them, but I was happy to see that proven on the course while playing. These are just a little better all around, and much better feel than my mp 14s or they wouldn't be in the bag. If your callaways are just better all around, then they are, but I know what you mean by clubs needing to prove it. I am really like that with wedges. I will keep wedges I don't even like all that much (ahem, my current fourrteens) because I have the time with them and I just don't want to deal breaking in a new wedge. Putters, I am more or less with you too. I can't use a mallet, but my putts per round or hot putting days equally come from 3 or 4 of my putters and club is more or less irrelevant as last I checked all putters are not forgiving regarding line and speed, or is there a SGI putter out there that makes 15% of all off line and bad speed putts?

[bladehunter]

[quote name='Bigmean' timestamp='1422260985' post='10819125']
BH,

I love my sets for range and occasional rounds, so I think I do play them a little more than you, but at the same time, "my" set doesn't change much or easily. I mean, granted I took 5/6 years off until last year, but I was rocking mp 14s until the end of the summer if that says anything. Now my injury allowed me too much time to Ho it up some, but I get attatched.

People may not realize this here because I have posted so much, but my Miuras came in the mail literally a day after I first broke my rib. All my time with them until my round Saturday was range and getting over that injury. So my very first on course round with them was that 83 with a 2 over front and my blow up of 3 doubles in last 4 holes to end up where I did, so I played very strong iron wise, my blow ups were tee/short game. I am very feel and address look oriented, and I already knew from the range that these were it based on that and my dispersion with them, but I was happy to see that proven on the course while playing. These are just a little better all around, and much better feel than my mp 14s or they wouldn't be in the bag. If your callaways are just better all around, then they are, but I know what you mean by clubs needing to prove it. I am really like that with wedges. I will keep wedges I don't even like all that much (ahem, my current fourrteens) because I have the time with them and I just don't want to deal breaking in a new wedge. Putters, I am more or less with you too. I can't use a mallet, but my putts per round or hot putting days equally come from 3 or 4 of my putters and club is more or less irrelevant as last I checked all putters are not forgiving regarding line and speed, or is there a SGI putter out there that makes 15% of all off line and bad speed putts?
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Im with you on the putters...they are all possessed equally (they are the devil) ...lol and I just walked by the mizunos sitting in the corner and remorse has set in..lol Im going to have to get rid of them or put them back in... I have so many swings on those I feel so confident in them and ive worn in some nice alignment aides ...lol wow im a headcase.. Ive never had this problem before...but I also had never been in full confidence with any 1 iron before.. its just winter boredom and I know it. cant wait for summer when I can spend every afternoon after work on the course... I don't change things at all then... don't even think about it

[Bigmean]

When I sold the fourteen blades, I thought for sure I would just end up playing mp14s for the rest of my life. I understand the remorse. During play on Saturday I watched my boy hit use them and no less than three times said something like "those clubs are just so sick, they are like best all time". As if watching the love of my life with another person and making sure they knew what they had in their hands hahahaha.

Eh, you will get over it......At same time, my Miuras are like the post divorce bombshell that doesn't nag, is always dressed to the tens and is as horny as I am

I can't wait to play this weekend. Rib has felt great. As expected, real play was less effort than even a light range session by the time chips, putts and time between shots factors in. Now I can start playing weekly and slowly start working in range time.

[N.Kelly]

I'm 25, ~10 handicap, and my first set of blades were my dads RAM FX Forged. They were loaners of course, until I could get my own...but every time I would get ready to swing I would get the vision of what Payne Stewart could do with his clubs, or what Tom Kite could do with his, and I would think to myself that's what I want to do...

And then chunk it...this was of course more than ten years ago.

But now-a-days having gone through two other sets; such as a mixed bag of Dunlop and then making a big mistake on Callaway Big Bertha CB's I am currently now using much older Titleist blades, about to make another transition to MB's; but I can approach my ball and have a whole lot more confidence simply because of what learning on blades and playing with blades has done for my game.

[castrojd]

[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1422036043' post='10804331']
[quote name='castrojd' timestamp='1422033726' post='10804067']
Last year hocked the 64s and I finally became a blade runner (MP4s)! I hope I am not too new to comment on this but switching to blades is the best golf decision I could have made! LOVE BLADES!

The common advice that they are only for scratch golfers, or people that want to play compettive golf is flat out wrong.
I enjoy golf now more than I ever have because of the unreal feeling I get from striking a ball perfectly with an awesome and beautiful iron. If you mishit the ball, you should see it so you can learn to correct. I think the advice mentioned above is totally inaccurate as I have dropped almost 10 strokes in a year and half, no lessons other than my mishits!

One question I haven't been able to answer is: Is there any reason to hit a long iron blade?
I currently have MP H4 3&4 irons because I only use them for short par 4s, real long par 5s (with no ability to get there in two) and long par 3s, it is very rare that I would hit the 3 from a fairway, so essentially they are long range piercing flight driving clubs.... thoughts?
Would a blade 4 Iron be better out of the middle cut than a MPH4? If I am in deep rough I wouldn't even consider hitting a 3/4 Iron. THX
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Agreed wholeheartedly on the skill level marketing malarkey. So many golfers with personal experience continue to disprove that myth.

I have come to love blades too. I really don't understand how someone doesn't want to play a blade or at least give them a chance for like a season. They are a pure joy to play. Fun fun FUN!

The long iron question is situational and depends on course conditions. In general if it is windy I play my 3i but mostly I play the 7w because it offers me a wider range of distance and I can get the ball to stop better with it because the trajectory is higher. I call my 7w my 190 yd wedge lol. My 3i doesn't stop as well.
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Agree - I was speaking specifically to 3i blade vs forgiving 3i (ie MP H4).... is there an advantage and if so...when/what

[Bigmean]

Makes sense in some long irons. I am OK to a 4 iron. The one drawback to my current set is the 6 is no problem beautiful shots, but at 5 I was 1 for 2 Saturday, one beautiful 205 baby draw 5 yards short of a par 5 in 2, and one bad toe miss going at another par 5 and trying to kill it. Mentally, I would rather kill a 5 than pull a 4, I need to get over that so I am not blaming the blades. I don't carry a 3 iron, I know when to say when, but pretty sure that applies to all 3 irons

[DeNinny]

[quote name='castrojd' timestamp='1422306468' post='10822683']
[quote name='DeNinny' timestamp='1422036043' post='10804331']
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The long iron question is situational and depends on course conditions. In general if it is windy I play my 3i but mostly I play the 7w because it offers me a wider range of distance and I can get the ball to stop better with it because the trajectory is higher. I call my 7w my 190 yd wedge lol. My 3i doesn't stop as well.
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Agree - I was speaking specifically to 3i blade vs forgiving 3i (ie MP H4).... is there an advantage and if so...when/what
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I found zero advantage to playing a GI 3/4 iron. I tried an MP-FliHi hybrid iron in both and struggled with them worse than both mp60 and mp67 in the same clubs. The wide sole did not fit my swing and the offset was not visually appealing.

So I simply learned to hit my 4i (either set) and for the 3i I went with a 7w. But now I also don't fear using a 3i anymore so I will bag that if I am in the mood.

Out of the rough I can't say which (3i or 7w or 3 hybrid iron) is better because it depends on the lie. All I can say for sure is that the GI MP-FliHi was clearly the worst of the lot to play with.

Edit: I personally am not a fan of hybrids. 7w is the original rescue club IMHO and I can hit a lot of shots with it. It's stupid easy to hit (for me).

[12tamale]

[quote name='Bigmean' timestamp='1422307939' post='10822821']
Makes sense in some long irons. I am OK to a 4 iron. The one drawback to my current set is the 6 is no problem beautiful shots, but at 5 I was 1 for 2 Saturday, one beautiful 205 baby draw 5 yards short of a par 5 in 2, and one bad toe miss going at another par 5 and trying to kill it. Mentally, I would rather kill a 5 than pull a 4, I need to get over that so I am not blaming the blades. I don't carry a 3 iron, I know when to say when, but pretty sure that applies to all 3 irons
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I'm in the same boat, up to the 4 I'm pretty confident, but played 3 iron of the tee at certain courses. As much as we like are blades, some of us get punished with 2-3 irons, if not struck perfect. Me included, that's why a carry a 19 hybrid. It's a more versatile alternative to a 5 wood.

[bobbydazzlewazzler]

Took my TN91 4 iron with s200 up the range on Saturday (along with a load of other MB 4 irons) and was impressed by what a great club it was. Really solid and enjoyable to strike. Here's a pic of the other 4irons I took with me (IMO no big noticeable difference in terms of forgiveness really compared to the other irons I hit other than the frozen ropes (vega?) forged CB which took me a few swings to get used to)..
Love doing this now and again, now I'm not playing club golf anymore, heading up the range and hitting a bag full of the same irons, see how the club characteristics differ..! Cheers! [attachment=2588991:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1422312138.675068.jpg]

[12tamale]

Not telling you what to do Bm, but maybe a mp-52-53-54, 4 iron might be worth looking into.
I have a S3 pro 3 iron that's amazing in that set.
My Mp-53 is money in the long irons.

[Bigmean]

It comes down to being realistic as well. Am I really hitting greens from 220 with consistency? No. I like a nice hard par 3, but reality for most courses with my distance is that a 5 is as deep as I need to go for the betterment of my scorecard anyway. Same buddy (he is just perfect for reference) when we played popped up a tee shot. Then has 3 wood from the rough. I was like dude, this is why you can't break 90. He looked at me, and I was like, there is a 30 yard wide area to the left of the green that if you hit a 6 iron there short, you have tons of green to work with, if you hit a good chip, you will par, but you guarantee a bogey. God knows what will happen with that 3 wood, do you really think you are going to put it on, or are you hitting it because you are that far away and that is what you think you should hit.

So I have the same thoughts in my game. You can save par many ways, but me trying hit a green from over 200 is fine at my level, but maybe not smart depending on the trouble. Sometimes up and down from a smart leave is better odds than whatever you are going to do with a 3 iron, even if you are good, and especially if you are longer than average.

[dunn]

Going into a chain store and expecting to pick an iron out getting fit by someone who was working at target a week prior and just hitting balls into a net and basing your purchase of this is your fault....do some research, know what you like and hit something off the grass outside preferably on course....have a good idea before you walk in and above all else have some figgen confidence in what you like or want.....dont leave this decision up to some random salesperson or people on here typing from God knows where.....you are your best resource, nobody knows you like you do ( i hope) so why wouldn't you be the best judge?......

[Itslegendary]

I'm playing since about 3.5 years now and got a new set of 712 MB's 1 year ago. I was a 11 index then and am a 7 index now. This season the goal is to get sub 5... I look at it this way: Blades just look super sexy and its all about confidence! The smaller the head, the bigger the ball visually, think of it this way!
None of my playing-buddies got blades or sth even close to it but i just liked the look and never even thought about any consequences on mishits... the real sweetspot on a blade is the same size than on a CB or GI anyway...

[bladehunter]

its Custom Grind Tuesday!!! fedex man just dropped off a 18lb box...I cant tell you how gorgeous they are! Im going to strangle down my lunch and then ill post some pics for all to see... brb

[Bigmean]

I can feel your wife's eyes rolling from south Florida.......

[HandsomeMatt]

I've now got 3 sets of blades, Apex II's , Directors circa 1980, and a set of Cleveland TAFF1's . Tried bagging the Tour Actions a couple months back but the swingweights were never a good fit, reluctantly going to tape the backs up a bit. I am playing the Directors now though and love the Apex 4 shafts, I'm so much more aware of lag with these and feel they will take everything I dish out, really going after one yields phenomenal results time and again. Playing blades off the winter turf hasn't been great as I'm a bit of a digger anyway but I can load the faces of these with wet clay just as easy as my MP 57's or Razr X Forged.

[bladehunter]

Here are some pics of the pre running favorite. ( note 1 iron doesn't match set. Has longer but not as deep muscle pad and different grind number. ). These have mp29 look a like muscle pads. Top line is what I would call modern "thin" but not razor thin like the same year normal tour models I have. Which I prefer. Gives a bit of help on a high strike. They really look like a modem mb all way around. But with more style. Single iron pic from address is 2 iron. 1 iron appears to be Unhit. [attachment=2590191:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1422384881.759935.jpg][attachment=2590193:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1422384895.550818.jpg][attachment=2590195:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1422384913.642169.jpg]

[bladehunter]

This set is the curiosity of the bunch. Really fat all the way Around. Super wide muscle pad. Thickish topline and slightly square toe. I wish I knew who had these made. They had to be patterned this way for a reason. Someone's eye was very particular. [attachment=2590197:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1422385084.644788.jpg][attachment=2590199:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1422385103.022694.jpg]

[bladehunter]

Then we have the super squarish bullet backs. [attachment=2590201:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1422385155.934916.jpg][attachment=2590203:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1422385171.691002.jpg]

[bladehunter]

rare wedges. First one is a special bob vokey m grind from 2001 ish. Hand ground and very nice. Second on left is a special forged wedge I believe to be from just before vokey took over. Not sure who's initials DD are. Next is a older forged wedge. We can tell this because the letter E in Titleist is capital. That Says it's before 1984. This has to be rare. And last a brad faxon forged sand wedge from around 1996. Not many of these around either . Porting on this one is original and correct . [attachment=2590205:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1422385223.598580.jpg]

[Mitchell]

BH,
Very nice, particularly like the set with thicker topline, had similar set before (dibs if decide to move). The forged wedges are the Larry Bobka series, the 59 DD was for David Duval.

[bladehunter]

Wow. Thanks Mitchell. Why didn't Duval Pop into my head? Lol. I love this era of equipment so much. 2001 ish is when I quit playing so my bag was full of og Cleveland 588s Titleist tour models 975d and a Cameron 33/350 Newport oh and don't forget a Titleist pro 90 ball. Man those were the days.