tsupo Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 please, how many of the haters here have actualy gamed (or even hit ! ) a "top quailty " shaft?? so, unless you have , you will have no idea how much better they actually are. so dont rubbish the thread bec a guys asking a seriosus question that you have ZERO ability to input anything of sustance to . Pitbull that was as good an explaination of a shaft as ive ever read. that has got me well interested i n this , i didnt really like his other offerings when they first came out, the fiamma was good in a fariway wood , really good , but i didnt like it in a driver at all. too whippy. butt and tipp cut it a bit and it firmed right up nicely and launched perfectly in my syard XV 15* was a very rewarding shaft . the specs on the AAA look similar to the diamana X so u shud get a pretty lowish flight outta this with lowspin id imagine. hmmmmm gonna look harder at this now........., Quote kamui tp-09 10* - diamana stinger 70X tourstage 701 15* - diamana X 70x tourstage 701 18* diamana aliislei 73s Pr-GR 3i- NS super peening blue x PRGR tr 500 - NS super peening orange s TOURSTAGE - x wedge 51* / 57* NS sp orange GOLDS FACTORY GSS360 - diamana pt 135.2 BRIDGESTONE tx- s ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaaayelll Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Thank you tsupo for ALWAYS having a meaningful answer. If everyone did as you do, this whole site would have 90% fewer posts but more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupo Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 just adding value Quote kamui tp-09 10* - diamana stinger 70X tourstage 701 15* - diamana X 70x tourstage 701 18* diamana aliislei 73s Pr-GR 3i- NS super peening blue x PRGR tr 500 - NS super peening orange s TOURSTAGE - x wedge 51* / 57* NS sp orange GOLDS FACTORY GSS360 - diamana pt 135.2 BRIDGESTONE tx- s ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJisGOAT Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 works of art Quote @therealping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misplacedtexan83 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 What's funny is when someone post a question and they don't get the exact answers they are looking for but a mixture of both. How can you tell one side to stfu but just listen to the other? Unfortunately, you POSTED a question in a online golf forum...what did you expect? Now let's brush of meaningless comments and hopefully, you find your answer. It seems Pitbull hit the nail on the head and just because a shaft works for one doesn't mean it will work for you. Are you willing to take a $1,000 gamble? That is the only question you need to ask yourself. For me, I don't know if I would spend $1,000 on a driver shaft because it wouldn't fix my swing. However, I have spend 500, so I guess I'm almost there Quote Callaway Epic Speed Triple Diamond LS *9.0 w/ UST Attas 11 Callaway Mavrik *15 w/ UST Attas 11 Callaway Mavrik *18 w/ UST Attas 11 Callaway 19' Apex Pros 4-Pw/ UST Recoil 125 Protos F4 Callaway MD5 50W & 54W & 58X w/ UST Recoil 125 protos F4 Tyson Lamb Customed Long Neck Allendale #lookatthebaby #teamcallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craniac76 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I tried that 1 grand shaft from Matrix. My opinion, no difference what soever to my driver performance. Well because that shaft doesn't fit me. Feel, for me, that shaft felt a bit stiff. I feel a $1000 is way overpriced. $300 is good enough for most people. I like Diamana shaft better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The7thLetter Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 [quote name='LionGolfer' timestamp='1426329998' post='11141039'] [quote name='flopshot99' timestamp='1425968387' post='11113163'] 1000 for a shaft...um....why? [/quote] Because I can and I want to.... [/quote] No Flex... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalleyeDave Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 [quote name='Harob11' timestamp='1426035099' post='11118367'] People blow me away with their preconceived notions - "rich - a******". Give me a break. If someone wants to spend $1000 on a shaft for whatever reason he chooses so be it. I'm not saying I'm going to do it but if I did it's my money and my choice. Is it going to make me a hell of a lot better than I was before. Absolutely not. Will it possibly help me hit the ball straighter... to some degree, possibly. Bottom line is people can do whatever the hell they want with their own money. As I said earlier, there are multi millionaires and billionaires who spend tens of millions on art that sits on a wall. Is that insane? To most people probably but it doesn't make him a "rich a******". It's all relative. Relax and worry about yourself. Now back to my original question... has anyone had a chance to try it? If you can't comment on the question no one wants to hear your chirping. [/quote]Well I guess we all just got kicked out of this thread. Good by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBBM Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 [quote name='WalleyeDave' timestamp='1427402757' post='11222575'] [quote name='Harob11' timestamp='1426035099' post='11118367'] People blow me away with their preconceived notions - "rich - a******". Give me a break. If someone wants to spend $1000 on a shaft for whatever reason he chooses so be it. I'm not saying I'm going to do it but if I did it's my money and my choice. Is it going to make me a hell of a lot better than I was before. Absolutely not. Will it possibly help me hit the ball straighter... to some degree, possibly. Bottom line is people can do whatever the hell they want with their own money. As I said earlier, there are multi millionaires and billionaires who spend tens of millions on art that sits on a wall. Is that insane? To most people probably but it doesn't make him a "rich a******". It's all relative. Relax and worry about yourself. Now back to my original question... has anyone had a chance to try it? If you can't comment on the question no one wants to hear your chirping. [/quote]Well I guess we all just got kicked out of this thread. Good by. [/quote] By by now Quote RomaRo 435LX 10*-Quadra FEX 65SX PRGR Egg HD 14.5*-Fubuki 75S 3W PRGR EGG 20* - M-43S 7 wood RomaRo iBrid 2 22* - Crazy Hybrid Miura PP9003SN 5-G - Modus 125S Miura HB12 @ 55* - Modus 125 W 2015 PM Grind 60* - KBS Tour V Axis1 Rose - Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmvargas Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 if you want it and have the resources just go for it and let us know how it it is... for those who can't.....don't knock those who can.. Quote Giga XF0710* driver/Hirohonma twin marks 355 10.5* driver TEE XCG5 16.5* 4W, Giga XF-11 17* 4W Daiwa New Super Lady 21* 7W Mizuno Intage 27* 9W Giga U3 21* hybrid Tourstage Viq U5 25* hybrid Adams V4 6H/7H Adams V4 forged irons 8-PW,GW,SW,LW HEAVY PUTTER mid-weight K4 putter Sun Mountain H2N0 stand bag Wilson Harmonized 55*/60*wedges Cleveland 588 56/60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirukuma Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 [quote name='flopshot99' timestamp='1426026723' post='11117473']Save the 1000 on a shaft, take aimpoint express putting workshop and golf lessons for 500..profit.[/quote] That sounds like the logic my wife uses when she comes home with a new handbag and tells me she saved us $500 by purchasing the half priced one instead of the newest model! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needmoregolf Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I can personally say that this shaft is amazing! I am trying something I have never done before with this shaft, and thats go super long and light, and it seems to be working great. Never would I have thought it would be possible to get into the 50g territory and still be able to hit the ball like I do with this shaft. I hit a high ball, so this isn't "low" for me by any stretch, but it is low spin and has oodles of run after it touches down. I'm playing it long in a JBeam 435 Black head at 46.25", which is longer than any driver length I've ever played. I was worried I wouldn't be able to get the timing down to square up, but the lightness allows me to get this thing back around my body and the super stable shaft properties allows the head to come back consistently square, so I'm hitting this longer, straighter and more consistently than any other driver I've played. Feel is very good, not quite glassy (say like a Diamana X) and not electric (say like a Diamana Stinger), but very smooth with a kick. Compared to a Rogue 125MSI, I'd say that might be the closest one in feel, but this one is better IMO. I would say overall, it feels cleaner and a more easy swinging shaft than the Rogue, but similar to the Rogue, the kick is definitely there but not jarring or too pronounced in any way. I'm really enjoying the total package of this shaft and would like to try this in other weights 60g/70g, just to see how it compares and if the personality of the shaft changes much, but I don't think anyone who's hit this shaft and had some time with it would disagree that it's just an all around superstar! Long high bombs w/ gazelle run...love this shaft/head combo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stage1350 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I hope it feels better than the Rogue 125, which I was not impressed with. Then again, I wasn't impressed with the Ozik TP-7 either. Nothing, so far, has been able to beat the P9003 TX for me. But I'm trying the new Diamana Whiteboard as soon as the epoxy dries. Good luck with this shaft if you end up getting one! Quote Mizuno ST200G 9° / Aldila Synergy Black Proto 75-TX TC Callaway XHot 3DEEP 13° / Graphite Design DI-10 TX TC Callaway X2Hot 5DEEP 18.5° bent to 17° / Fujikura Ventus Black 10x Callaway X-Forged UT 21° / Fujikura Ventus Black 10-TX Callaway X-Forged UT 25° / Nippon Super Peening Blue X hs1x Raw Mizuno MP-32 6-PW / Nippon Super Peening Blue X hs1x Titleist Vokey SM8 Black 50.08F / Nippon Super Peening Blue X Stage-stepped Titleist Vokey SM8 Black 54.12D / Nippon Super Peening Blue X Stage-stepped Titleist Vokey SM8 Black 58.14K / Nippon Super Peening Blue X Stage-stepped Mizuno M-Craft I Blue Ion 365g / Stability Shaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creampuff Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Just how many professionals are actually using this shaft on their drivers? I may hazard a guess that there aren't many when there are so many golf shafts out there to choose from and they will choose what works for them. So when people go ga-ga over a specific shaft's performance I'm frankly bemused. We all know golf shaft is the engine of the club. Select base on your ball flight characteristics, not on price. For the price of a Basileus I could test a bunch of shafts and use a launch monitor to narrow down the choices. I know of a fellow club member in my club who is a shaft junkie and does use a Basileus. Frankly I couldn't tell one bit if his ball flight was any better than the other high priced shafts that he has used, but hey he comes from a rich background and the Basileus is chump change. If money is no object and it works for you, play on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Do people really think professionals play anything off the shelf and not custom built. It's silly to talk about how many pros use something and use that to prove a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyteOn Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The marketing mindf$&?k of the public is astonishing. A pro sponsored is on a launch monitor every day, followed weekly by a tour truck with several techs that constantly builds to the exact specs of the player, often with non-retail versions of clubs. But hey, if it's on tv, it must be true! He plays Taylor Made!! If one guy plays a club/shaft/ball because of exclusivity or price and the other plays because it's on tour, then they're equally the fool. Play what you want to play. What feels best to you. Here's a couple of tips to live by: 1) Worry about you 2) Don't tell a grown man how to spend his money I, for one, find Crazy shafts to be light years ahead of USDM shafts. Worth the price? It's all relative, as is everything in life. Quote Epic SZ - T1100 13* Epic SZ - T1100 Epic 3H Epon 303 4-A Yururi Tataki 55/60 SC X6M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch2Plus Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 $1000 for the AAA is msrp. Can get them for around half that if you do your research. And I completely agree...Never tell a grown man how to spend his money. Quote Qi10 Max 9* ~ TPT Nitro 17 Hi TRS 2 15* Ventus Red TR 6s TRS 2 21* Ventus Red TR 7s JDM Cally X Forged star~ Mitsu OTi 95s Kyoei KK ~ Nippon 115 LAB Golf DF3~ TPT Bridgestone RXS Vessel Lux XV cartbag Never tell a grown man how to spend his money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needmoregolf Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 [quote name='creampuff' timestamp='1439971603' post='12167624'] Just how many professionals are actually using this shaft on their drivers? I may hazard a guess that there aren't many when there are so many golf shafts out there to choose from and they will choose what works for them. So when people go ga-ga over a specific shaft's performance I'm frankly bemused. We all know golf shaft is the engine of the club. Select base on your ball flight characteristics, not on price. For the price of a Basileus I could test a bunch of shafts and use a launch monitor to narrow down the choices. I know of a fellow club member in my club who is a shaft junkie and does use a Basileus. Frankly I couldn't tell one bit if his ball flight was any better than the other high priced shafts that he has used, but hey he comes from a rich background and the Basileus is chump change. If money is no object and it works for you, play on! [/quote] "I'm frankly bemused" that there's always at least one hater that feels the need to chime in on posts seeking legitimate info with their narrow minded grumpiness. I agree, don't tell a grown a$$ man how to spend his money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puresurfr Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 [quote name='needmoregolf' timestamp='1440138485' post='12181230'] [quote name='creampuff' timestamp='1439971603' post='12167624'] Just how many professionals are actually using this shaft on their drivers? I may hazard a guess that there aren't many when there are so many golf shafts out there to choose from and they will choose what works for them. So when people go ga-ga over a specific shaft's performance I'm frankly bemused. We all know golf shaft is the engine of the club. Select base on your ball flight characteristics, not on price. For the price of a Basileus I could test a bunch of shafts and use a launch monitor to narrow down the choices. I know of a fellow club member in my club who is a shaft junkie and does use a Basileus. Frankly I couldn't tell one bit if his ball flight was any better than the other high priced shafts that he has used, but hey he comes from a rich background and the Basileus is chump change. If money is no object and it works for you, play on! [/quote] "I'm frankly bemused" that there's always at least one hater that feels the need to chime in on posts seeking legitimate info with their narrow minded grumpiness. I agree, don't tell a grown a$$ man how to spend his money... [/quote] And don't tell a grown A$$ 5'10" + man with a good job when he can or can't play golf, and don't tell a grown A$$ man that his ball with the $2000 driver setup is behind your topflight XL and don't tell a grown A$$ man to grow a pair and Don't berate a grown A$$ man about his stupid company's stock price plunge !!!! *hehe did i miss anything ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8thehardway Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 "One man's ceiling is another man's floor." I'll hazard a guess that for many potential buyers, a $1,000 shaft has the same financial impact as a $100 shaft does for those who have problems with how complete strangers spend their money. Quote Honma Beres 10.5* Jones/Ortiz 4 wood 17* Adams Idea Black CB2 irons 26, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45* Callaway MD3 S grind 52, 56, C grind 60, PM grind 64* Tom Slighter Custom Needle 450g, 3* loft, 74* lie (2006) Tom Slighter Needle 360g, 4* loft, 72* lie (2012, backup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcat990 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'd have to try it of course. I've spent 10x more on rifles. Precision goes a long ways. But 9/10 the rifle does all the work. If this $1000 shaft fixed my dumpster fire swing, I'd buy 2 of them. Quote [b][color=#8b4513]Wyoming[/color] [color=#ffd700]Cowboys[/color][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauiatheart Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I remember when people said paying $200 for a Cameron was crazy...paying $300 for a shaft ridiculous...paying $400 for a new driver utterly stupid. Those people will drop that type of money now without batting an eye because the marketing geniuses made it common place to do so. A $1000 shaft is the next step now that we are used to the $300/shaft price point. Use what you like, can afford and justify for yourself. Just be happy when you are on the course and enjoy the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white03 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If $1000 shaft is the next step, then I better quit golf or I'll be filing Chapter 9...haha...just kidding with you mauia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harob11 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 My observations are that people are cheapskates until they arrive at the bar. Seen it time and time again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch2Plus Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 So back on topic...anyone hit it yet? Thoughts-reviews? Quote Qi10 Max 9* ~ TPT Nitro 17 Hi TRS 2 15* Ventus Red TR 6s TRS 2 21* Ventus Red TR 7s JDM Cally X Forged star~ Mitsu OTi 95s Kyoei KK ~ Nippon 115 LAB Golf DF3~ TPT Bridgestone RXS Vessel Lux XV cartbag Never tell a grown man how to spend his money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needmoregolf Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 like I mentioned above, it's An a amazing shaft. if you can find one, it won't be full retail but still pricy, but well worth it IMO. can't buy them at full retail anymore anyways, as the limited stock is sold out. if you have specific questions, I can answer them offline as to avoid the soapbox peanut gallery comments some people like to waste time on posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acnhdernegw Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 [quote name='flopshot99' timestamp='1426026723' post='11117473'] Save the 1000 on a shaft, take aimpoint express putting workshop and golf lessons for 500..profit. [/quote] haha..very true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyteOn Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm far from rich but the a****** part is certainly debatable. I just picked up the used X flex AAA on the other site. Will post a review after 30ish days. Quote Epic SZ - T1100 13* Epic SZ - T1100 Epic 3H Epon 303 4-A Yururi Tataki 55/60 SC X6M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyteOn Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Have the shaft, it really is the nicest shaft I have ever seen. Not that the looks matter, but it is really nicely done. Putting it in a jBeam ZY-11 but getting the head painted first. Probably 2-3 weeks before I game it. Quote Epic SZ - T1100 13* Epic SZ - T1100 Epic 3H Epon 303 4-A Yururi Tataki 55/60 SC X6M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyteOn Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I decided that I will paint it later and have gamed the combo for 5 rounds and 3 sessions on Trackman as well as 5 range sessions. This shaft is a beast. Low/low is the only way to describe it. Low launch, low spin. It hits laser beams. On Trackman I have gained 11 yards and dropped 2* launch angle. On the course I have gained at least 20 yards but that is under very firm conditions. Soggy fairways would be the death of this combo. The dispersion of this shaft is like nothing I have ever gamed which is probably the value in it. I play on the tightest course in Az and I am hitting more fairways than ever. At 60 it is lighter than anything I have ever played. In my late 20s I played a Fuji Tour Spec 95. Amazing how the body changes from 28 to 40. Is it worth it? Everything is relative. I paid 30% retail used but it is still the most I have ever paid for a shaft. Everyone who hits it says "wow" as the first comment. I honestly cannot explain how tight it is. You swing the club and it is almost an extension of your arms if that makes sense. But it is not boardy. It truly is like nothing I have ever hit. I absolutely love it. When I'm not hitting it I am thinking about hitting it, if that makes sense. It might not be for eveyone but it is definitely for me.. Quote Epic SZ - T1100 13* Epic SZ - T1100 Epic 3H Epon 303 4-A Yururi Tataki 55/60 SC X6M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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