2016 Phoenix area course conditions thread

[AzSuperHack76]

Maryvale in one word is stunning. I've played this course probably 100 times before the Reno and didn't recognize it when I walked on the property.

 

The course is in great shape. There are some bare patches but mostly in places you'll never hit from.

 

From the tips this course is a beast. 7250 par 71 and you feel it the whole way through. All the lines off the tee have changed. Very strategic bunker placing..(think southern dunes). Bunker sand is phenomenal. Greens were weird the looked dormant rolled beautifully but I was having a hard time holding shots on some of them. rolling fairways. It's crazy to imagine this at maryvale but there are lots of elevation changes in the fairways. It's noticeable on the first hole as you're walking.

 

I'm not as good at reviews like some of the other members here but let me tell you that this renovation is extremely well done. It plays like a new tough course but still feels like maryvale.

 

 

 

 

Are the greens Bent Grass?

[Olson12]

Maryvale in one word is stunning. I've played this course probably 100 times before the Reno and didn't recognize it when I walked on the property.

 

The course is in great shape. There are some bare patches but mostly in places you'll never hit from.

 

From the tips this course is a beast. 7250 par 71 and you feel it the whole way through. All the lines off the tee have changed. Very strategic bunker placing..(think southern dunes). Bunker sand is phenomenal. Greens were weird the looked dormant rolled beautifully but I was having a hard time holding shots on some of them. rolling fairways. It's crazy to imagine this at maryvale but there are lots of elevation changes in the fairways. It's noticeable on the first hole as you're walking.

 

I'm not as good at reviews like some of the other members here but let me tell you that this renovation is extremely well done. It plays like a new tough course but still feels like maryvale.

 

 

 

 

Are the greens Bent Grass?

 

I honestly don't know... I've only played on a few bent grass greens in my life so I cant say for sure

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[One_Putt_Blunder]

Doubtful on bent no way they could hold up in phx with the traffic of a muni. Prob dormant mini verde

[lvlites]

Whatever they are, they are smooth, fast and consistent. The only drawback was slow play, but I guess that should be expected this time of year.

[YMark]

Maryvale in one word is stunning. I've played this course probably 100 times before the Reno and didn't recognize it when I walked on the property.

 

The course is in great shape. There are some bare patches but mostly in places you'll never hit from.

 

From the tips this course is a beast. 7250 par 71 and you feel it the whole way through. All the lines off the tee have changed. Very strategic bunker placing..(think southern dunes). Bunker sand is phenomenal. Greens were weird the looked dormant rolled beautifully but I was having a hard time holding shots on some of them. rolling fairways. It's crazy to imagine this at maryvale but there are lots of elevation changes in the fairways. It's noticeable on the first hole as you're walking.

 

I'm not as good at reviews like some of the other members here but let me tell you that this renovation is extremely well done. It plays like a new tough course but still feels like maryvale.

 

 

 

 

Are the greens Bent Grass?

 

I honestly don't know... I've only played on a few bent grass greens in my life so I cant say for sure

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I played Papago yesterday and the greens were brown there as well, and I'm pretty sure they're not bent grass. I believe they have bermuda mini-verde.

[Olson12]

Whatever they are, they are smooth, fast and consistent. The only drawback was slow play, but I guess that should be expected this time of year.

 

what time did you tee off?

 

A coworker told me his round took 5 hours sunday. We teed off at 9 am and finished in 4:10 I wonder at what point the pace dropped

[fore_life]

Probably the a******* who double booked and took our time haha

[One_Putt_Blunder]

Playing Estrella (the good one) Sat, looking forward to it, have not been back out there since hip surgery. Raptor Tues, looking forward to seeing the new 15-17 out there.Then hopefully Maryvale Thurs

[puttnforthe8]

Playing Estrella (the good one) Sat, looking forward to it, have not been back out there since hip surgery. Raptor Tues, looking forward to seeing the new 15-17 out there.Then hopefully Maryvale Thurs

 

FYI...supposedly if you book today for GCU you can get a 4some for $98.70 - some kind of AZ Sports promo. Or maybe you have to be out there when they broadcast later today.

[Enzogorlami]

Yeah it ended at 10 am today sadly

[ricar1610]

Maryvale in one word is stunning. I've played this course probably 100 times before the Reno and didn't recognize it when I walked on the property.

 

The course is in great shape. There are some bare patches but mostly in places you'll never hit from.

 

From the tips this course is a beast. 7250 par 71 and you feel it the whole way through. All the lines off the tee have changed. Very strategic bunker placing..(think southern dunes). Bunker sand is phenomenal. Greens were weird the looked dormant rolled beautifully but I was having a hard time holding shots on some of them. rolling fairways. It's crazy to imagine this at maryvale but there are lots of elevation changes in the fairways. It's noticeable on the first hole as you're walking.

 

I'm not as good at reviews like some of the other members here but let me tell you that this renovation is extremely well done. It plays like a new tough course but still feels like maryvale.

 

 

 

 

Are the greens Bent Grass?

 

I honestly don't know... I've only played on a few bent grass greens in my life so I cant say for sure

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I think they are Champion Bermuda (is that mini verde?). They don't overseed them. They have the same ones at PHX CC. They are really nice and what is great is that once it warms up there is no transition. They do get very firm though....I believe they are the same as Papago...but don't quote me on that

[az2au]

You can't have bent down there. It stays too warm at night in the summer.

[Sweet]

played Kenny Mac yesterday...greens were much better on course than on practice facility

[fore_life]

The practice greens at Kenny are beat! Same for lone tree, but both had good greens on course

[Rohlio]

Southern dunes yesterday morning. Cart Path only due to all the rain the previous 3 days. Other than that just spetacular. Greens firm and lightning fast. Bunkers were fluffy and full. Fairways look like they had been cored maybe 3 weeks ago, but I never noticed any playability issues and never had a bad lie.

 

Oh and the 4some in front of us was Larry Fitzgerald and 3 other cards I didnt immediately recognize.

[cod4101]

Southern dunes yesterday morning. Cart Path only due to all the rain the previous 3 days. Other than that just spetacular. Greens firm and lightning fast. Bunkers were fluffy and full. Fairways look like they had been cored maybe 3 weeks ago, but I never noticed any playability issues and never had a bad lie.

 

Oh and the 4some in front of us was Larry Fitzgerald and 3 other cards I didnt immediately recognize.

 

Trying to forget that whoopin Seattle gave them lol.

[One_Putt_Blunder]

GC of Estrella yesterday. It's been a few years since I've been back out there. It's a fantastic golf course. Tremendous closing stretch. Even after the storms this week it was in great shape greens fast fairways thick and surprisingly drier than i expected.

[FyteOn]

We teed off at 9 am and finished in 4:10 I wonder at what point the pace dropped

 

What?!? Is that real? Wow. I commend you on your patience. I would've walked off long before that.

[Rohlio]

I think you read his post wrong... they finished in 4 hours 10 mins. Not at 4:10... that would have been crazy house.

[FyteOn]

Yes, I did read it incorrectly. Phew.

[puttnforthe8]

Red Mountain Ranch today....letting me be the first to warn you and if you still choose to play the course don't whine! It is perhaps the worst course condition wise I have ever played. It is so bad they would be shut down if there was some sort of equivalency of a health inspector for golf courses.

 

Tee boxes shredded and ripped up, uneven or no grass. Fairways exactly the same with the added inconsistent grass length. Greens are horrid: don't hold, beat up to hell, full of rocks and sand.

 

If it were not a tourney I would have walked off!

 

I think I vomit in my mouth a few times on the course.

[Chomper]

Played SunRidge Canyon yesterday. They had a few holes of CPO, otherwise a solid course.

 

FIrst time there. Nice fast greens, prob some dormant bermuda grass. Rolled very true, were not too beat up.Nice layout! I enjoyed the elevation changes. Pricey - Troon card rate is $105, but I wanted to try it out. Good pace, although the snack shop at #9 was closed at 2:30 on a Sat afternoon (WTF?)

 

Fairways had drained very well, only a few wet spots. Dormant rough, good sand, fairways had some nice roll to them.

 

Overall, I would play there again.

[fore_life]

Red Mountain Ranch today....letting me be the first to warn you and if you still choose to play the course don't whine! It is perhaps the worst course condition wise I have ever played. It is so bad they would be shut down if there was some sort of equivalency of a health inspector for golf courses.

 

Tee boxes shredded and ripped up, uneven or no grass. Fairways exactly the same with the added inconsistent grass length. Greens are horrid: don't hold, beat up to hell, full of rocks and sand.

 

If it were not a tourney I would have walked off!

 

I think I vomit in my mouth a few times on the course.

 

What the hell is going on there? Did Ahwatukee golf properties take over or something? Ha!

 

And they raised membership dues

[puttnforthe8]

Red Mountain Ranch today....letting me be the first to warn you and if you still choose to play the course don't whine! It is perhaps the worst course condition wise I have ever played. It is so bad they would be shut down if there was some sort of equivalency of a health inspector for golf courses.

 

Tee boxes shredded and ripped up, uneven or no grass. Fairways exactly the same with the added inconsistent grass length. Greens are horrid: don't hold, beat up to hell, full of rocks and sand.

 

If it were not a tourney I would have walked off!

 

I think I vomit in my mouth a few times on the course.

 

What the hell is going on there? Did Ahwatukee golf properties take over or something? Ha!

 

And they raised membership dues

 

We busted up laughing on #18 because they have a sign offering $500 for membership referrals. F$%^...I wouldn't refer someone there if they gave me $500,000!

 

But..it seems exactly like that.

[Olson12]

Southern dunes yesterday morning. Cart Path only due to all the rain the previous 3 days. Other than that just spetacular. Greens firm and lightning fast. Bunkers were fluffy and full. Fairways look like they had been cored maybe 3 weeks ago, but I never noticed any playability issues and never had a bad lie.

 

Oh and the 4some in front of us was Larry Fitzgerald and 3 other cards I didnt immediately recognize.

 

Trying to forget that whoopin Seattle gave them lol.

 

No enjoying their first round bye while them seachickens barely beat the Vikings.

[jewofgolf]

Red Mountain Ranch today....letting me be the first to warn you and if you still choose to play the course don't whine! It is perhaps the worst course condition wise I have ever played. It is so bad they would be shut down if there was some sort of equivalency of a health inspector for golf courses.

 

Tee boxes shredded and ripped up, uneven or no grass. Fairways exactly the same with the added inconsistent grass length. Greens are horrid: don't hold, beat up to hell, full of rocks and sand.

 

If it were not a tourney I would have walked off!

 

I think I vomit in my mouth a few times on the course.

 

What the hell is going on there? Did Ahwatukee golf properties take over or something? Ha!

 

And they raised membership dues

 

We busted up laughing on #18 because they have a sign offering $500 for membership referrals. F$%^...I wouldn't refer someone there if they gave me $500,000!

 

But..it seems exactly like that.

 

I played out there about 2 weeks ago and although the greens were really firm, otherwise I thought it was solid. Especially the greens roll...and I'm picky as anyone on greens.

 

It's amazing how quickly things turn south.

[cbbaron]

Southern dunes yesterday morning. Cart Path only due to all the rain the previous 3 days. Other than that just spetacular. Greens firm and lightning fast. Bunkers were fluffy and full. Fairways look like they had been cored maybe 3 weeks ago, but I never noticed any playability issues and never had a bad lie.

 

Oh and the 4some in front of us was Larry Fitzgerald and 3 other cards I didnt immediately recognize.

Saw Fitz at Troon North today

[Double K]

Southern dunes yesterday morning. Cart Path only due to all the rain the previous 3 days. Other than that just spetacular. Greens firm and lightning fast. Bunkers were fluffy and full. Fairways look like they had been cored maybe 3 weeks ago, but I never noticed any playability issues and never had a bad lie.

 

Oh and the 4some in front of us was Larry Fitzgerald and 3 other cards I didnt immediately recognize.

Saw Fitz at Troon North today

 

Foreshadowing for next week? Expecting some time on his hands after losing to the Pack?

[AzSuperHack76]

Southern dunes yesterday morning. Cart Path only due to all the rain the previous 3 days. Other than that just spetacular. Greens firm and lightning fast. Bunkers were fluffy and full. Fairways look like they had been cored maybe 3 weeks ago, but I never noticed any playability issues and never had a bad lie.

 

Oh and the 4some in front of us was Larry Fitzgerald and 3 other cards I didnt immediately recognize.

Saw Fitz at Troon North today

 

Foreshadowing for next week? Expecting some time on his hands after losing to the Pack?

 

 

Hhahaha, losing to GB, good one!

[Olson12]

Southern dunes yesterday morning. Cart Path only due to all the rain the previous 3 days. Other than that just spetacular. Greens firm and lightning fast. Bunkers were fluffy and full. Fairways look like they had been cored maybe 3 weeks ago, but I never noticed any playability issues and never had a bad lie.

 

Oh and the 4some in front of us was Larry Fitzgerald and 3 other cards I didnt immediately recognize.

Saw Fitz at Troon North today

 

Foreshadowing for next week? Expecting some time on his hands after losing to the Pack?

 

I'll just leave this here.