Tucson Golf - Ventana Canyon or Omni Tucson national

[Elliebarley1978]

If you had the choice to stay and play , where would you choose and why?

 

Thanks

[puttnforthe8]

Ventana, slightly better courses; but the resort is better and the location is more relaxing.

 

But Ritz would be the best! :)

[Arizonalefty59]

Agreed. Look at Dove Mountain or JW Marriott Starr Pass they have better courses and resorts. Would take both of those before the two you mentioned, depends on prices though.

[Elliebarley1978]

Yeah so the dove mountain area lands would be the best? may stay in the cottages on the gallery.

in terms of golf is dove mountain courses Gallery and golf club that much better then ventana?

 

thanks!

[PittShark]

Just throwing out one other suggestion - Westin La Paloma (La Paloma Golf & Country Club). I've stayed there twice and really enjoyed the resort, and the golf is 27 holes of an awesome Nicklaus design. May not be for everyone, but some local opinion I've heard is that it's one of the tougher tests in the Tucson area.

[Arizonalefty59]

Yeah so the dove mountain area lands would be the best? may stay in the cottages on the gallery.

in terms of golf is dove mountain courses Gallery and golf club that much better then ventana?

 

thanks!

Oh yea and it's not even close.

[Elliebarley1978]

Yeah so the dove mountain area lands would be the best? may stay in the cottages on the gallery.

in terms of golf is dove mountain courses Gallery and golf club that much better then ventana?

 

thanks!

Oh yea and it's not even close.

 

I was reading some forums that the "golf club at Dove mountain course" has gone downhill in terms of conditioning a little bit. But i guess its still better then the national and ventana?

[Arizonalefty59]

Yeah so the dove mountain area lands would be the best? may stay in the cottages on the gallery.

in terms of golf is dove mountain courses Gallery and golf club that much better then ventana?

 

thanks!

Oh yea and it's not even close.

 

I was reading some forums that the "golf club at Dove mountain course" has gone downhill in terms of conditioning a little bit. But i guess its still better then the national and ventana?

I have played Dove Mountain in pretty much every single time period, summer, spring, fall and winter. The conditions have been solid every single time Ive played it. Obviously don't go after overseeding when they punch the greens. Don't know what the dates are of overseeding though.

[puttnforthe8]

Just throwing out one other suggestion - Westin La Paloma (La Paloma Golf & Country Club). I've stayed there twice and really enjoyed the resort, and the golf is 27 holes of an awesome Nicklaus design. May not be for everyone, but some local opinion I've heard is that it's one of the tougher tests in the Tucson area.

 

No. Resort is ok. Course is blah and not in good shape. "awesome" is way exaggerated and it is not that tough of a course.

[Elliebarley1978]

Any feedback on the cottages at dove mountain. Cant seem to find any info on those places.

[PittShark]

Just throwing out one other suggestion - Westin La Paloma (La Paloma Golf & Country Club). I've stayed there twice and really enjoyed the resort, and the golf is 27 holes of an awesome Nicklaus design. May not be for everyone, but some local opinion I've heard is that it's one of the tougher tests in the Tucson area.

 

No. Resort is ok. Course is blah and not in good shape. "awesome" is way exaggerated and it is not that tough of a course.

 

That's your opinion and that's cool. Just stating two facts - I played there in the first week of December and the course was in very good shape, and two...I'm friends with several people who live in the area and more than one have told me that it's one of the tougher courses. If you don't agree with that, it's cool....I was just passing along info to the OP that was told to me.

[divebreck]

Ventana Canyon and stay at the Lodge not the Loews.

[Bassi]

Just throwing out one other suggestion - Westin La Paloma (La Paloma Golf & Country Club). I've stayed there twice and really enjoyed the resort, and the golf is 27 holes of an awesome Nicklaus design. May not be for everyone, but some local opinion I've heard is that it's one of the tougher tests in the Tucson area.

 

No. Resort is ok. Course is blah and not in good shape. "awesome" is way exaggerated and it is not that tough of a course.

 

That's your opinion and that's cool. Just stating two facts - I played there in the first week of December and the course was in very good shape, and two...I'm friends with several people who live in the area and more than one have told me that it's one of the tougher courses. If you don't agree with that, it's cool....I was just passing along info to the OP that was told to me.

Agreed! Saying La Paloma isn't in good shape couldn't be further from the truth. Just played Hill/Canyon Friday and Ventana's mountain course 2 weeks before that. Both are in great shape. I'd even say Paloma's greens were running a little smoother. Haven't been out to Tucson National since October but it was playing well then. All three great courses!!

[Elliebarley1978]

Ventana Canyon and stay at the Lodge not the Loews.

 

Are the courses better at ventana or the resort? Or both?

 

[divebreck]

Ventana Canyon and stay at the Lodge not the Loews.

 

Are the courses better at ventana or the resort? Or both?

 

The loews uses Ventana's courses, they alternate between private play on the one 18 and "public" play on the other.

[Elliebarley1978]

Which course is better at ventana? Mount or canyon?

[Brianm423]

Just stayed at Dove Mountain last Wednesday/Thursday. Down here for work from the east coast and put some Marriott points toward the stay. Highly recommend the resort/golf if you are in the area. About 30 min drive from Tucson. Was going to play all 27 holes Thursday but buddy and I had to get back to work. Phenomenal conditions, friendly staff, and not busy. My buddy and I played in 3.5 hours including a few stops to get beverages. First time playing AZ golf, so can't compare to any of the surrounding courses.

[divebreck]

Which course is better at ventana? Mount or canyon?

 

Most will say the mountain, but really both are very good. Mountain has some holes that are really beautiful and on or two that are gimmicky.

[teejaywhy]

Which course is better at ventana? Mount or canyon?

 

My description of the Canyon course is a nice cart ride, interrupted on occasion by golf holes.

Only course I've played where you have use a map to get from the ninth green to the tenth tee.

[divebreck]

Which course is better at ventana? Mount or canyon?

 

My description of the Canyon course is a nice cart ride, interrupted on occasion by golf holes.

Only course I've played where you have use a map to get from the ninth green to the tenth tee.

 

My guess is that I like the course a bit more than you do, but your not wrong. Ventana can be a very confusing place to get around!

[Bassi]

Just throwing out one other suggestion - Westin La Paloma (La Paloma Golf & Country Club). I've stayed there twice and really enjoyed the resort, and the golf is 27 holes of an awesome Nicklaus design. May not be for everyone, but some local opinion I've heard is that it's one of the tougher tests in the Tucson area.

 

No. Resort is ok. Course is blah and not in good shape. "awesome" is way exaggerated and it is not that tough of a course.

 

You need to check La Paloma out again. Don't know how long it's been since you played it but Troon is doing an awesome job with it now!!

[BUCKEYERBALL88]

If you had 18 holes to play which would you pick? All are $90

 

Dove mountain-are saguaro & tortolita 9s the best? That's the 2 9s match play was on.

 

Gallery north

Gallery south

 

[herbygolf21]

Gallery south, Dove Mountain to me is overrated.

[divebreck]

I'd rather play Dove Mountain, don't think there is a wrong answer!!

[BUCKEYERBALL88]

What makes them stand out from one another? Thx

[divebreck]

I think Dove is more of a desert golf course, and most will say the greens are much harder (difficult) than Gallery. Conditioning may go to the Gallery but not by much. Both were played on the tour if that's something that interests you. We are going back to Dove in the next 3 weeks for our annual round of golf there.

[hckygm3]

I have played Dove Mountain and The Gallery many times over the last 6 years.

 

The Gallery North course is the best "public" course in Tucson. The views are fantastic, and the course has a good mix of holes. The south course is on par with dove mountain. The conditioning is always better on the North course as it is the member preferred course mostly due to the views and it is slightly easier. The pace of play is better at the gallery, but the customer service is better at Dove Mountain.