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I recently was fitted for and purchased an M1 440 with hzrdus black shaft. I feel like every shaft I have had has always had the name and graphics straight down the center at address. When playing this driver in the standard loft/lie setting the hzrdus points towards the target. Is this normal? Will it cause any issues?

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Ok thanks. That makes sense. The lettering is yellow on the black shaft. Is that normal as well? Every pic I've seen is shaded out black

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Ok thanks. That makes sense. The lettering is yellow on the black shaft. Is that normal as well? Every pic I've seen is shaded out black

You have the Hzrdus Yellow shaft then not Black

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Correct you have the Hzrdus Yellow.

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Great. Thought it felt a lot different. Not even sure how that got fuc&ed up. I'll be stopping at that shop very soon to figure this out.

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Would this shaft even make sense for me 112-114, -4 to -6 aoa, lots of lag?

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Would this shaft even make sense for me 112-114, -4 to -6 aoa, lots of lag?

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Sounds to me like it would fit you better than the Hzrdus Black would.

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at that swing speed, you should be good with the 6.5 (X stiff)

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negative AoA may be a problem w/ Hzrdus Black, which is already a low launch shaft.

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Hmm ok maybe a case of simulator vs real life. I'll have to see what the fitter says

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I almost have the exact same stats as you and got fitted into the Yellow.

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Side note: I couldn't get my spin down with it so I decided to hold off until I could get my AoA closer to 0 or positive. My fitter said I was basically maxed out on distance until I fixed it. Dispersion was the tightest of anything I tried though.

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Whatever the shaft was, black or yellow, it brought my spin down from over 3000 to the mid 2000's. Or could have been the m1 440 vs r15. Who knows. Hit it great hope it continues in real life.

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spoke to fitter me apparently it was the yellow he fit me in. Must be a case of being a simulator hero or just a bunch of off shots at the range. I am first owner

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With an adjustable hosel this really shouldn't be that big of a mystery.

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Either it's in an adjusted setting that rotated the shaft (perhaps draw or fade setting, +/- loft, etc.,

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or the shaft was Pured (usually will have a little light blue sticker on it).

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Turned out he had the head I wanted with wrong shaft and shaft with wrong head. Swapped em and apparently someone else wanted logo forward

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Would to stout a shaft cause the ball to be pulled? Would it cause distance loss? It almost seems like if I don't go 110% at it I hit it shorter than my old driver. When I do go 110% it tends to go left.

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I knew I should have not gone just based on the simulator.

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Would to stout a shaft cause the ball to be pulled? Would it cause distance loss? It almost seems like if I don't go 110% at it I hit it shorter than my old driver. When I do go 110% it tends to go left.

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Does it feel too stout to you? The stiffness of the shaft really doesn't have any significant direct contribution to the ball going left on you. However, different feels can cause different swings in some individuals. e.g. if it feels too stout that could potentially cause a swing change that could result in anything (left, right, etc..). But if that was the case, that would likely show up with the normal swing and not just the 110% swing (since the normal swing would load the shaft even less than the faster swing).

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No change in swing other than the effort I put into it, that I am aware of. It certainly feels stout

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