Kerr apologizes for slow play in Playoff

[DavePelz4]

She is intolerable between the slow play and screaming at the golf ball 90% of the time.

 

Could you imagine being married to her? I am guessing she is "in charge'"

 

So you've never talked to your golf ball before? Ever?

 

Talking is one thing. SCREAMING IS ANOTHER.

[golfer07840]

She's a very good golfer. Lots of preparation for each shot. Nicklaus was the same, and very slow also.

 

It was a playoff for a championship in demanding conditions. She earned her way to be in that position.

 

Doesn't make for great tv, though.

 

No it doesn't. However, I doubt they are saying to themselves "I better hurry up. This is bad for TV."

[deadsolid...shank]

It wasn't blowing 40 MPH during that playoff, no chance.

 

I played yesterday during the afternoon and it was sustained 30 mph+ with gust to 40 mph. Went to eat and walked out at 7:30 ish. The winds were still blowing as much as they were when I was playing earlier.

 

I figure someone from Texas probably knows wind, but I'm with Q. I wouldn't believe 40. I'd believe 25 with on occasional gust to 40. But just occasionally.

 

I'm close to the Wyoming border. It blows here, a lot. I played today and a gust, probably 25mph caught me mid swing and blew me off balance. Those girls, 40 damn near blows them over.

 

 

 

It was gusting 40 for sure. #18 at Los Colinas CC is a stupid hole. Takes a perfect drive with a lot of luck just to hit the fairway. I will agree...slow play sucks.

 

It didn't look nearly that strong to me on TV. But I'll defer to the people that were actually there.

[dhc1]

The hate for Kerr is strong here. I guess I'm in the minority.

 

Even if you're a fan of hers, can you see that

 

1) she is a slow player

2) it was inappropriate to blame her competitor as part of her "apology"?

To be honest, not really.

 

But unlike most on here, I am not offended that she is slow. I don't act as if you're a slow player on Tour that you deserve the same punishment as selling nuclear codes to the Russians.

 

I understand most on here play and walk hilly 18 hole golf courses in under 90 mins, and anything over that, you should be tarred and feathered at high noon the next day.

 

But I am not like that.

 

Got it. Slow play doesn't bother you.

 

what about the second point, where she threw her competitor under the bus? Bad graces or no?

[llewol007]

I love Cristie Kerr. You can slow play any time.

[golfer07840]

The hate for Kerr is strong here. I guess I'm in the minority.

 

Even if you're a fan of hers, can you see that

 

1) she is a slow player

2) it was inappropriate to blame her competitor as part of her "apology"?

To be honest, not really.

 

But unlike most on here, I am not offended that she is slow. I don't act as if you're a slow player on Tour that you deserve the same punishment as selling nuclear codes to the Russians.

 

I understand most on here play and walk hilly 18 hole golf courses in under 90 mins, and anything over that, you should be tarred and feathered at high noon the next day.

 

But I am not like that.

 

Got it. Slow play doesn't bother you.

 

what about the second point, where she threw her competitor under the bus? Bad graces or no?

 

I didn't love that. She shouldn't have brought her into it. I thought she rambled on a bit, and should have just left it as "I played slow, sorry about that" and moved on.

[dhc1]

The hate for Kerr is strong here. I guess I'm in the minority.

 

Even if you're a fan of hers, can you see that

 

1) she is a slow player

2) it was inappropriate to blame her competitor as part of her "apology"?

To be honest, not really.

 

But unlike most on here, I am not offended that she is slow. I don't act as if you're a slow player on Tour that you deserve the same punishment as selling nuclear codes to the Russians.

 

I understand most on here play and walk hilly 18 hole golf courses in under 90 mins, and anything over that, you should be tarred and feathered at high noon the next day.

 

But I am not like that.

 

Got it. Slow play doesn't bother you.

 

what about the second point, where she threw her competitor under the bus? Bad graces or no?

 

I didn't love that. She shouldn't have brought her into it. I thought she rambled on a bit, and should have just left it as "I played slow, sorry about that" and moved on.

 

Agreed. Just own it and move on.

 

Same with Lexi.

[CEPick]

I think Dottie should interview her

"How does your slow play affect your schedule for the next 2 years?"

[golfgirlrobin]

I am not a Kerr fan and wasn't rooting for her, but to be fair, the holes weren't a mix of par threes, fours and fives, it was six par fives. The par would be 30, which is the equivalent of almost eight holes worth of golf. Throw in the wind and the fact that it was all done under playoff pressure and it just didn't seem that bad to me. Perhaps I was more distracted by Kerr's incessant screaming and just didn't notice.

 

(Before someone throws out the condescending, "I guess you're fine with slow play", I played this morning in 2:40 and it would have been faster if I could have putted at all.).

[golfer07840]

 

(Before someone throws out the condescending, "I guess you're fine with slow play", I played this morning in 2:40 and it would have been faster if I could have putted at all.).

 

Forgive the 17 asking the 2, but how the heck did you play 18 in 2:40? Can I assume you were solo and the course was empty?

[Argonne69]

(Before someone throws out the condescending, "I guess you're fine with slow play", I played this morning in 2:40 and it would have been faster if I could have putted at all.).

 

Forgive the 17 asking the 2, but how the heck did you play 18 in 2:40? Can I assume you were solo and the course was empty?

 

I assume it was a twosome on an empty course. A single should make it around in 2 to 2:20.

[duffer987]

(Before someone throws out the condescending, "I guess you're fine with slow play", I played this morning in 2:40 and it would have been faster if I could have putted at all.).

 

Forgive the 17 asking the 2, but how the heck did you play 18 in 2:40? Can I assume you were solo and the course was empty?

 

I assume it was a twosome on an empty course. A single should make it around in 2 to 2:20.

 

Ugh and there we have it, whooshing off-topic.

Discussions on professional golfers can exist without the ad hominems... well OK harder when they are self-inflicted, but still.

 

Do people interject their slo-pitch beer league anecdotes into discussions about MLB players? Yes yes, maybe this is a pet peeve of mine.

 

If we cannot stay focused on Kerr's like of likeability, what chance do we have ;)

[Mark_888]

I don't think Kerr's play was too slow until she got around the greens at the end of the tournament and in the playoff. At that point, she took way too long to hit her long puts and chips, sometimes marking and replacing the ball multiple times in the same spot (minutes apart) for no other reason than just nerves.

 

In the end, Kerr ending up psyching herself out on several long puts and chips, and by the time she finally hit the shots she was a basket-case that looked like a bowl of quivering Jell-O. Not surprisingly, for those shots around the green where she took so long to hit them, the result was often some of the worst shots I have ever seen at any level of golf. I understand it can happen once even for a pro, but it happened several times on the 18th hole (regulation and playoff).

 

For her own benefit, not to mention the benefit of the LPGA, she needs to work on a reasonable and consistent routine.

[Argonne69]

I timed one of her approach shots at 2:50+ during regulation. It wasn't only during the playoff and/or near the greens. She had numerous shots over 2 minutes.

[the bishop]

Kerr's short game in that playoff was pretty atrocious. It's no excuse for her slow play but I wonder if a lack of confidence around the greens played a part in any of it? The only decent shot I saw her hit was the one where she pulled her second shot left and had a stance on the cart path with the ball on a skinny lie on some dirt. That was a pretty good shot but her shots closer to the green were really, really bad.

[DavePelz4]

Kerr's short game in that playoff was pretty atrocious. It's no excuse for her slow play but I wonder if a lack of confidence around the greens played a part in any of it? The only decent shot I saw her hit was the one where she flared her second shot left and had a stance on the cart path with the ball on a skinny lie on some dirt. That was a pretty good shot but her shots closer to the green were really, really bad.

 

My simplistic view is that she got out of her normal routine and took too much time intentionally or not. More so than at anytime, under pressure is when you need to stick with what got you there.

[youngwaldo]

When will both tours let alone all the tours that slow play during and at playoff is not acceptable. It is setting a terrible example for AM players and youngsters. I know yes they are playing for a lot of money and commercials but if it turns off more people from the game they will not be playing for much $$ soon.

 

Wk

[Mark_888]

I timed one of her approach shots at 2:50+ during regulation. It wasn't only during the playoff and/or near the greens. She had numerous shots over 2 minutes.

OK. If it was a wedge, I was considering that to be at or near the green. Seems like some of her shots on 18 near the green were a lot more 2:50, although I didn't time them.

[pmcuk]

 

My simplistic view is that she got out of her normal routine and took too much time intentionally or not. More so than at anytime, under pressure is when you need to stick with what got you there.

 

 

Is she going to change her routine? - No

Is she repentant in any way in her tweets? - No

Will she speed up her play in future? - No

Will she stop screaming at the ball? No

Does she even care? - No

 

We all know how this plays out. As long as she has enough sycophants on her website she'll believe she is one of the golf greats and can do anything she likes.

[Mark_888]

Is she going to change her routine? - No

The TV announcers claimed, and I agree, that Kerr did change her routine on numerous shots she hit on 18 near the green (which I think they played 6 times including the playoff). The ones where she took an extraordinary amount of time had the worst results, and not because they were particularly difficult.

 

If Kerr had followed her normal routine (even if that was longer than the average player) she may have done a lot better and possibly won the playoff. But she took such a long time on many of the shots (including marking and replacing her ball multiple times at the same exact spot on the green) that she psyched herself out and hit some terrible shots (such as chips or puts from right off the green that didn't even make it half way to the hole).

 

Kerr was so nervous at the end, and was taking so long, that I didn't see the ending. I couldn't stand to watch her after the first 3 playoff holes.

[NorthTexasGlfr]

Is she going to change her routine? - No

The TV announcers claimed, and I agree, that Kerr did change her routine on numerous shots she hit on 18 near the green (which I think they played 6 times including the playoff). The ones where she took an extraordinary amount of time had the worst results, and not because they were particularly difficult.

 

If Kerr had followed her normal routine (even if that was longer than the average player) she may have done a lot better and possibly won the playoff. But she took such a long time on many of the shots (including marking and replacing her ball multiple times at the same exact spot on the green) that she psyched herself out and hit some terrible shots (such as chips or puts from right off the green that didn't even make it half way to the hole).

 

Kerr was so nervous at the end, and was taking so long, that I didn't see the ending. I couldn't stand to watch her after the first 3 playoff holes.

 

Is it possible that she got so wrapped up in slow playing Nomaru with her gamesmanship that she took herself out of her own routine?

[b.helts]

 

My simplistic view is that she got out of her normal routine and took too much time intentionally or not. More so than at anytime, under pressure is when you need to stick with what got you there.

 

 

Is she going to change her routine? - No

Is she repentant in any way in her tweets? - No

Will she speed up her play in future? - No

Will she stop screaming at the ball? No

Does she even care? - No

 

We all know how this plays out. As long as she has enough sycophants on her website she'll believe she is one of the golf greats and can do anything she likes.

 

Wait. Kerr has a website that has people on it? People that like her no less?

 

I had no idea!

 

Whoa

[legitimategolf]

Is she going to change her routine? - No

The TV announcers claimed, and I agree, that Kerr did change her routine on numerous shots she hit on 18 near the green (which I think they played 6 times including the playoff). The ones where she took an extraordinary amount of time had the worst results, and not because they were particularly difficult.

 

If Kerr had followed her normal routine (even if that was longer than the average player) she may have done a lot better and possibly won the playoff. But she took such a long time on many of the shots (including marking and replacing her ball multiple times at the same exact spot on the green) that she psyched herself out and hit some terrible shots (such as chips or puts from right off the green that didn't even make it half way to the hole).

 

Kerr was so nervous at the end, and was taking so long, that I didn't see the ending. I couldn't stand to watch her after the first 3 playoff holes.

 

Is it possible that she got so wrapped up in slow playing Nomaru with her gamesmanship that she took herself out of her own routine?

 

It's also possible that her short game technique is not all that great. I'm no expert but her chipping and pitching strokes are very handsy, and her setups are not very athletic--i.e. on a downhill bunker lie, she can't get her shoulders level with the slope.

 

While I'm at it, her full swing looks like it's all arms.

[NorthTexasGlfr]

Is she going to change her routine? - No

The TV announcers claimed, and I agree, that Kerr did change her routine on numerous shots she hit on 18 near the green (which I think they played 6 times including the playoff). The ones where she took an extraordinary amount of time had the worst results, and not because they were particularly difficult.

 

If Kerr had followed her normal routine (even if that was longer than the average player) she may have done a lot better and possibly won the playoff. But she took such a long time on many of the shots (including marking and replacing her ball multiple times at the same exact spot on the green) that she psyched herself out and hit some terrible shots (such as chips or puts from right off the green that didn't even make it half way to the hole).

 

Kerr was so nervous at the end, and was taking so long, that I didn't see the ending. I couldn't stand to watch her after the first 3 playoff holes.

 

Is it possible that she got so wrapped up in slow playing Nomaru with her gamesmanship that she took herself out of her own routine?

 

It's also possible that her short game technique is not all that great. I'm no expert but her chipping and pitching strokes are very handsy, and her setups are not very athletic--i.e. on a downhill bunker lie, she can't get her shoulders level with the slope.

 

While I'm at it, her full swing looks like it's all arms.

 

Yea, I don't know how she ever got this close to qualifying for the HOF :swoon:

[golfer07840]

I don't think Kerr's play was too slow until she got around the greens at the end of the tournament and in the playoff. At that point, she took way too long to hit her long puts and chips, sometimes marking and replacing the ball multiple times in the same spot (minutes apart) for no other reason than just nerves.

 

In the end, Kerr ending up psyching herself out on several long puts and chips, and by the time she finally hit the shots she was a basket-case that looked like a bowl of quivering Jell-O. Not surprisingly, for those shots around the green where she took so long to hit them, the result was often some of the worst shots I have ever seen at any level of golf. I understand it can happen once even for a pro, but it happened several times on the 18th hole (regulation and playoff).

 

For her own benefit, not to mention the benefit of the LPGA, she needs to work on a reasonable and consistent routine.

 

She's won over 15 million dollars in her career, I'd say her routine is fine.

 

I timed one of her approach shots at 2:50+ during regulation. It wasn't only during the playoff and/or near the greens. She had numerous shots over 2 minutes.

 

Did you call it in?

[golfer07840]

Is she going to change her routine? - No

The TV announcers claimed, and I agree, that Kerr did change her routine on numerous shots she hit on 18 near the green (which I think they played 6 times including the playoff). The ones where she took an extraordinary amount of time had the worst results, and not because they were particularly difficult.

 

If Kerr had followed her normal routine (even if that was longer than the average player) she may have done a lot better and possibly won the playoff. But she took such a long time on many of the shots (including marking and replacing her ball multiple times at the same exact spot on the green) that she psyched herself out and hit some terrible shots (such as chips or puts from right off the green that didn't even make it half way to the hole).

 

Kerr was so nervous at the end, and was taking so long, that I didn't see the ending. I couldn't stand to watch her after the first 3 playoff holes.

 

Is it possible that she got so wrapped up in slow playing Nomaru with her gamesmanship that she took herself out of her own routine?

 

It's also possible that her short game technique is not all that great. I'm no expert but her chipping and pitching strokes are very handsy, and her setups are not very athletic--i.e. on a downhill bunker lie, she can't get her shoulders level with the slope.

 

While I'm at it, her full swing looks like it's all arms.

 

FFS people...

[golfer07840]

Is she going to change her routine? - No

The TV announcers claimed, and I agree, that Kerr did change her routine on numerous shots she hit on 18 near the green (which I think they played 6 times including the playoff). The ones where she took an extraordinary amount of time had the worst results, and not because they were particularly difficult.

 

If Kerr had followed her normal routine (even if that was longer than the average player) she may have done a lot better and possibly won the playoff. But she took such a long time on many of the shots (including marking and replacing her ball multiple times at the same exact spot on the green) that she psyched herself out and hit some terrible shots (such as chips or puts from right off the green that didn't even make it half way to the hole).

 

Kerr was so nervous at the end, and was taking so long, that I didn't see the ending. I couldn't stand to watch her after the first 3 playoff holes.

 

Is it possible that she got so wrapped up in slow playing Nomaru with her gamesmanship that she took herself out of her own routine?

 

It's also possible that her short game technique is not all that great. I'm no expert but her chipping and pitching strokes are very handsy, and her setups are not very athletic--i.e. on a downhill bunker lie, she can't get her shoulders level with the slope.

 

While I'm at it, her full swing looks like it's all arms.

 

Yea, I don't know how she ever got this close to qualifying for the HOF :swoon:

 

Evidently it's a miracle. Perhaps she lucked into her wins and earnings, in the same fashion in which Faldo lucked into his 3 Green Jackets?

[Argonne69]

I timed one of her approach shots at 2:50+ during regulation. It wasn't only during the playoff and/or near the greens. She had numerous shots over 2 minutes.

 

Did you call it in?

 

No, but I went to the LPGA website and left 'general' feedback on the excruciating pace of the tournament. Seriously, 5+ hours for twosomes? Enough is enough. I said that Rule 6-7 requires a player to make a stroke without undue delay, and noted that close to 3 minutes is the very definition of undue delay. Hit the d*mn ball already.

[legitimategolf]

Evidently it's a miracle. Perhaps she lucked into her wins and earnings, in the same fashion in which Faldo lucked into his 3 Green Jackets?

 

Let's get something straight, I wasn't saying Cristie Kerr is bad at golf or even implying anything like that. I was just pointing out specific weaknesses in her game. Everyone has them. Cristie Kerr has about one win for every season on tour, which is very good, not quite great; let's not act like she is so good that she is above criticism.

[golfer07840]

I timed one of her approach shots at 2:50+ during regulation. It wasn't only during the playoff and/or near the greens. She had numerous shots over 2 minutes.

 

Did you call it in?

 

No, but I went to the LPGA website and left 'general' feedback on the excruciating pace of the tournament. Seriously, 5+ hours for twosomes? Enough is enough. I said that Rule 6-7 requires a player to make a stroke without undue delay, and noted that close to 3 minutes is the very definition of undue delay. Hit the d*mn ball already.