How often do you see a chiropractor?

[BB28403]

Yes I know dude. I read the article and then put beside it what it was about. You do seem the type to get pleasure out of someone else's mistakes though. However, I knew what I was posting.

I was posting it so people could decide for themselves. I don't live in a one sided world. The risks seem kind of awful to me...

Ruptured discs, strokes. No thanks.

[Millbrook]

Touch Tuina massage keeps me fit. Was diagnosed with carpel tunnel syndrome and told I needed an op. Touch Tuina guy said my back was out and nerves were trapped, cured it in 5 sessions.

 

I go once a month.

[MooreMikeA]

Every two months to keep things working for me.

 

Suffered from lower back pain for about a year with very little relief. Went to a chiropractor and walked out feeling 100% better. My hips get rotated out of position causing strain in the lower back. When they do the adjustment I can feel a difference right away.

 

My results are not the norm and there are some very bad chiropractors. If they go for the hard sell then run for the door. The ones I have worked with have recommended coming back when you feel pain again. Until my first experience I was a big skeptic as well.

[oldpalchamp]

I have degenerative disk disease, arthritis, bone chips, and stenosis. In other words, my back is a mess. I have tried chiro treatment a few times, and quite honestly, felt better after the treatment. My problem with chiros, however, is I always felt like I was an annuity. They always reminded me to make my 2 appointments for next week.

[2bGood]

Yes I know dude. I read the article and then put beside it what it was about. You do seem the type to get pleasure out of someone else's mistakes though. However, I knew what I was posting.

I was posting it so people could decide for themselves. I don't live in a one sided world. The risks seem kind of awful to me...

Ruptured discs, strokes. No thanks.

 

Yes I take some pleasure in pointing your mistakes as you made what I would call some pretty over the top and insulting comments. You claimed that chiro falls outside the standard of care and would make no sense for American trained physician to go to them and inferred endorsing Chiro in any way made them 'Quake MD's' and there use was 'retarded' by a Neurosurgeon.

 

Given the Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic and John Hopkins all have Chiropractors working there and referring people to them by their MD's I would find it hard say it is just Quake MD's or MD's that are "foreign born and have no love for Americans" that see the benefits in Chiro.

 

By all means weigh out the risks and benefits. You should for anything.

 

By the way I can't say that I endorse Chiropractors overall, the profession has odd beginnings with claims that go far beyond what they could prove they can offer (mind you so does medicine). These days the science is strong that spinal manipulation for mechanical back issues is effective. The issue arises that some - (maybe many) chiropractors still make claims that they can provide more than this. Personally I don't believe Chiro's can prove many of these claims, and you are best sticking with a chiropractor that limits their claims and trained at one of the more evidence based schools. I suspect the Chiropractors at the major hospitals are evidence based practitioners.

[BB28403]

Avoid chiropractors. Period.

[northgolf]

I find a trip to the Chiro is the next best way to spend money after a trip to the palmist.

[Lefthook]

Yes I know dude. I read the article and then put beside it what it was about. You do seem the type to get pleasure out of someone else's mistakes though. However, I knew what I was posting.

I was posting it so people could decide for themselves. I don't live in a one sided world. The risks seem kind of awful to me...

Ruptured discs, strokes. No thanks.

 

Yes I take some pleasure in pointing your mistakes as you made what I would call some pretty over the top and insulting comments. You claimed that chiro falls outside the standard of care and would make no sense for American trained physician to go to them and inferred endorsing Chiro in any way made them 'Quake MD's' and there use was 'retarded' by a Neurosurgeon.

 

Given the Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic and John Hopkins all have Chiropractors working there and referring people to them by their MD's I would find it hard say it is just Quake MD's or MD's that are "foreign born and have no love for Americans" that see the benefits in Chiro.

 

By all means weigh out the risks and benefits. You should for anything.

 

By the way I can't say that I endorse Chiropractors overall, the profession has odd beginnings with claims that go far beyond what they could prove they can offer (mind you so does medicine). These days the science is strong that spinal manipulation for mechanical back issues is effective. The issue arises that some - (maybe many) chiropractors still make claims that they can provide more than this. Personally I don't believe Chiro's can prove many of these claims, and you are best sticking with a chiropractor that limits their claims and trained at on of the more evidence based schools. I suspect the Chiropractors at the major hospitals are evidence based practitioners.

 

2bGood,

 

Your assessment of chiropractors resonates very well with my own.

 

I have a typical "chiropactor back". Nothing is broken, but I get pain from back stiffness from time to time, and sometimes pretty serious. The chiros I have visited do not aim for frequent flyers, but aim to fix the problem. In my case that have worked once, and that was in the USA.. I had had a lingering back for maybe four years when I went to see him, and he basically fixed my back in 4 or 5 consecutive session. Important part of the fix was that he devised a very effective stretching exercise, and possible that I worked out regularly at the time. But perhaps equally important was that he had a huge arsenal of methods: Massage, mobility machines and manual adjustment. i was through four stations on every appointment. My back was 100% for the following two and a half years - which was totally unexpected on my behalf. The streak ended when we moved beck home. In the process I had several months of a lifestyle that isn't good for a back, probably a couple of months of bad seating, bad beds and no work-out. Back with my domestic chiro, it's only a partial fix and I have stopped seeing him because he never manages to take out the root cause.

 

It is definitively worth trying out, but as with all treatment it is important to start with a proper diagnosis., I started with an x-ray the first time I went to see a chiropractor.

[2bGood]

The other thing is physiotherapist are starting to get more in the Manual Manipulation if that is your thing.

[Hot Rod 71]

Avoid chiropractors. Period.

 

You don't need a chiropractor, you need a psychiatrist. Maybe he or she can assist you in figuring out why you have such a big ax to grind.

[pinhigh27]

Avoid chiropractors. Period.

 

You don't need a chiropractor, you need a psychiatrist. Maybe he or she can assist you in figuring out why you have such a big ax to grind.

 

Suggesting someone to avoid chiropractors is indicative of mental disease?

[Z1ggy16]

I recommend to anybody who asks, to never go to a chiro. Many are not properly trained and some of the time, it can do more harm than good for you. If you're having back issues, many times the problem either can't be solved by simply just pushing your spine into a temporary position, or the issue itself is muscular related (tight, injured muscled pulling on the spine) or the root cause has nothing to do with your spine (poor foot alignment, etc).

 

My wife is a physical therapist and she can't even count how many times people have come to her because the chiro hurt them. A PT can solve all the issues your chiro says he can solve and more. They are all properly trained, and the newest "batch" of PT's (graduated within the last 5-10 yrs) all need Doctoral degrees that take 7 yrs to get, unlike a lot of chiro's.

[Hot Rod 71]

Avoid chiropractors. Period.

 

You don't need a chiropractor, you need a psychiatrist. Maybe he or she can assist you in figuring out why you have such a big ax to grind.

 

Suggesting someone to avoid chiropractors is indicative of mental disease?

 

Everyone who sees a psychiatrist has a mental disease?

 

It was a joke....

[scopek]

I recommend to anybody who asks, to never go to a chiro. Many are not properly trained and some of the time, it can do more harm than good for you. If you're having back issues, many times the problem either can't be solved by simply just pushing your spine into a temporary position, or the issue itself is muscular related (tight, injured muscled pulling on the spine) or the root cause has nothing to do with your spine (poor foot alignment, etc).

 

My wife is a physical therapist and she can't even count how many times people have come to her because the chiro hurt them. A PT can solve all the issues your chiro says he can solve and more. They are all properly trained, and the newest "batch" of PT's (graduated within the last 5-10 yrs) all need Doctoral degrees that take 7 yrs to get, unlike a lot of chiro's.

 

I agree with this post.

 

I'm an M.D. but this is outside of my area of practice. However, as a resident I remember 2 to 3 patients admitted either on the neurology floor or in the ED due to injuries from chiropractors. I'm sure there are some good chiropractors and am not surprised that some people have been, and can be, helped by them. However, in my opinion, the risk is not worth it. I had debilitating back pain several years ago. I went to a physical therapist, worked on stretching, and started doing exercises to strengthen my core, legs, and back. That did the trick. I have been pain free for years. But I have to do the exercises to maintain the gains or the pain starts to come back.

 

Another recommendation for manipulation is to go to a DO (Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine) who is specialized in manipulation and physical medicine. They have MD level training but have training in manipulation as well.

[BB28403]

I recommend to anybody who asks, to never go to a chiro. Many are not properly trained and some of the time, it can do more harm than good for you. If you're having back issues, many times the problem either can't be solved by simply just pushing your spine into a temporary position, or the issue itself is muscular related (tight, injured muscled pulling on the spine) or the root cause has nothing to do with your spine (poor foot alignment, etc).

 

My wife is a physical therapist and she can't even count how many times people have come to her because the chiro hurt them. A PT can solve all the issues your chiro says he can solve and more. They are all properly trained, and the newest "batch" of PT's (graduated within the last 5-10 yrs) all need Doctoral degrees that take 7 yrs to get, unlike a lot of chiro's.

 

I agree with this post.

 

I'm an M.D. but this is outside of my area of practice. However, as a resident I remember 3 to 4 patients admitted either on the neurology floor or in the ED due to injuries from chiropractors. I'm sure there are some good chiropractors and am not surprised that some people have been, and can be, helped by them. However, in my opinion, the risk is not worth it. I had debilitating back pain several years ago. I went to a physical therapist, worked on stretching, and started doing exercises to strengthen my core, legs, and back. That did the trick. I have been pain free for years. But I have to do the exercises to maintain the gains or the pain starts to come back.

 

Another recommendation for manipulation is to go to a DO (Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine) who is specialized in manipulation and physical medicine. They have MD level training but have training in manipulation as well.

 

Good advice scopek. DO's are quite good. With just a hint of fairy dust magic (manipulation).

[jerebear21]

do not seek a DO if you believe your body requires manipulation; my godsister is a DO and she even said her training of manipulation is so lacking that it's not even worth seeing her for any of the above reasons

 

to each his own; i don't blame MDs for the opioid epidemic that have caused 30k deaths in 2016

[BB28403]

Yeah blame Medicare who required a pain management scale 1-10.

Also blame the manufacturers who ignored complaints and made millions of pills.

 

New pain guidelines should fix it all. Gonna be very stingy with the Pain meds nowadays! Days of 50-60 percocets day after surgery are over.

I took like 2 of them. So not needed really.

[jerebear21]

don't know what your point is and don't care; to each their own

[pinhigh27]

do not seek a DO if you believe your body requires manipulation; my godsister is a DO and she even said her training of manipulation is so lacking that it's not even worth seeing her for any of the above reasons

 

to each his own; i don't blame MDs for the opioid epidemic that have caused 30k deaths in 2016

 

tough line to tow. either you're a jerk and not giving person relief from this pain which is the worst they've ever felt in their life(honestly what everyone says) or you are a pill pusher

 

kinda relevant, one of most common mechanisms for opioid addiction is severe athletic injuries

[BB28403]

That's a great attitude. You said "I don't blame the MDs for the opioid epidemic". And I was just telling you that they aren't to blame AT ALL. That was my point.

[BB28403]

do not seek a DO if you believe your body requires manipulation; my godsister is a DO and she even said her training of manipulation is so lacking that it's not even worth seeing her for any of the above reasons

 

to each his own; i don't blame MDs for the opioid epidemic that have caused 30k deaths in 2016

 

tough line to tow. either you're a jerk and not giving person relief from this pain which is the worst they've ever felt in their life(honestly what everyone says) or you are a pill pusher

 

kinda relevant, one of most common mechanisms for opioid addiction is severe athletic injuries

 

I think it's the FDA who came out with the new guidelines right? So they can be the jerks! :)

It was one of those agencies .

[jerebear21]

my oldest brother is a surgeon; he put me on tramadol for sciatic pain telling me i won't become addicted to it; i did become depended on it; and TBH, it was probably one of the worst 3 months of my life; i honestly didn't know what was going on for 3 months; thank goodness i snapped out of it.

 

i took tylenole after my PCL and meniscus went bye bye; that's probably as far as I'll ever go again

[jerebear21]

That's a great attitude. You said "I don't blame the MDs for the opioid epidemic". And I was just telling you that they aren't to blame AT ALL. That was my point.

 

of course it's a great attitude; because i actually don't care what a person on the internet actually thinks? it's like going into this golf instruction forum reading about what 20 handicapper trying to fix someone elses swing; some people aren't experts thus i don't care for them.

[BB28403]

Don't care for them or don't care what they think? Those are 2 entirely different things.

 

Because the first thing shows you do actually care enough to not care for someone. You follow?

 

For example if I didn't care for my body Id go see a chiropractor... ;)

[jerebear21]

you can't argue with ignorance, that's for sure. I'll kindly show myself to the door; I'm getting dumber every minute here.

[BB28403]

I don't care...for your insults. :) lol

[JDW3]

I started going about a year ago and I go every 4 weeks. Its great for back pain and stiffness.

 

I also get a therapeutic massage every 6 weeks. I highly recommend doing both.

[Forged4ever]

Avoid chiropractors. Period.

Yeppers.....

 

Nicely stated?

 

My Best?

RP

[Forged4ever]

you can't argue with ignorance, that's for sure.

LMAO, you must know my fiancé?

 

Those are her famous last words before exiting the room?

 

I just ignore the comment and take it that she can't deal with my intellectual muscle?

 

Have a great evening?

RP

[Mitchell]

you can't argue with ignorance, that's for sure.

LMAO, you must know my fiancé?

 

Those are her famous last words before exiting the room?

 

I just ignore the comment and take it that she can't deal with my intellectual muscle?

 

Have a great evening?

RP

Keep it up,tough guy and Maddie's gonna have you eating food purchased from a drive-thru?. Either that or may need to 'adjust' to sofa?