Streamsong Caddie fee

[EurodriverIL]

As a career caddie for 20 years currently thought put some input. Have personally worked countless rounds at the below properties and many others.

 

Whistling straits 65$ shop caddie fee

They get less than half on a check.

Typical tip around $75-100$ a bag for a solid caddie.

 

Player cost $140-165$ per, $260-330$ for 2 bags

Caddie gets $105-130$ a bag $210-260$ 2 bags total with cash and check.

 

Streamsong

 

Caddie fee paid directly 100$ + tip

Typically $120-160 a bag for double

 

Caddie makes $240-$320 cash 2 bags

Golfers pay same. $240-320

 

4 players in cart typically pay $40-100 a player with cash fee and tip combined payed at end. These can be crazy good loops though when players have a great day. Well over 100$ a player.

 

So in many cases it is the same or less, but everyone wins. No middle man stealing. For the most part that's why those places have quality loopers!

 

Streamsong, bandon, sand valley, ect follow these guideline. It may seems expensive to fork over a few hundos after the round but it's not hidden and broken up in payments.

 

Also bottom line is if the guy was great just tip well! Gonna give him 120$? Throw him $140 or $150, we will appreciate the extra 20 or 30.?

 

 

 

[FlashinLeather]

I got though this thread and really didn't find the answer to OP's question

 

Streamsong Caddie Fees:

Single Bag $100 plus gratuity

Double Bag $90/per player plus gratuity

 

What is a fair amount of gratuity for someone double bagging ($180 pre-tip)?

[Bsarosi]

On 11/4/2020 at 11:32 AM, FlashinLeather said:

I got though this thread and really didn't find the answer to OP's question

 

Streamsong Caddie Fees:

Single Bag $100 plus gratuity

Double Bag $90/per player plus gratuity

 

What is a fair amount of gratuity for someone double bagging ($180 pre-tip)?

 

I'd say it depends on your experience and the quality of service provided by the caddie. If it were me, I'd probably tip as follows:

> Top-notch service (exceeded my expectations) - $50-60 tip, maybe a bit more

> Average or above-average service (met expectations) - $30-40 tip

> Below-average or poor service (didn't meet expectations) - $20 tip

 

Again, it will vary from golfer to golfer as there is no cut n dry amount to tip a caddie. What applies to me could be completely different for another golfer. It really depends on the quality of service provided by the caddie in the eyes of the golfer. And some golfers have vary different perspectives. I've seen some golfers tip a caddie 200-300% of the caddie fee for what I thought was average service. Others tipped 20% when service was top notch imo. 

[BEND OF THE RIVER GC]

The ABSOLUTE WORST caddy that I ever had was at Streamsong. I'll carry my own bag from now on.

[Roody]

12 hours ago, BEND OF THE RIVER GC said:

The ABSOLUTE WORST caddy that I ever had was at Streamsong. I'll carry my own bag from now on.

Compared to caddies I've had at other resorts, I would say that the caddie I had at Streamsong was probably at the bottom of the list. He wasn't awful, he just wasn't... good. 

[monty09]

On 1/10/2018 at 2:14 PM, raynorfan1 said:

 

I get it. I’d estimate that 25% of caddies are just plain bad, a good number are sort of indifferent, and about 25% are very good. My caddies at SS have all been very good.

 

But it’s annoying to be lumping around with somebody for four hours who’s not good, knowing that you’re going to fork over $100 at the end of the round for the privilege.

 

I felt this way at Pebble Beach... i had a hungover bartender on his first loop and he reminded me what the min tip was.. i was less than pleased 

[BEND OF THE RIVER GC]

The next time I have a caddy, I'll remind him/her of my "expectations" so that he can get his "minimum tip". Otherwise it will be less. Not having to ask for yardages (accurate ones, not guess too) isn't too much to ask. Just do your job.

 

On a side note, I am playing Streamsong Red and Black over New Year's Eve and I have decided to carry my own bag both rounds. I'll shoot my own yardages, at least I know they will be correct and not "guessing". I don't need anyone to read a green for me, that part of the game I am good at.

Edited November 12, 2022 by BEND OF THE RIVER GC

[Abh159]

The times when I utilize a caddy I have different levels of expectations that run parallel with the amount I tip:

 

Minimum service/tip - carry my bag, help look for balls in the rough, rake bunkers

 

Good to above average service/tip - all of the above + help with reading greens, preferred line of play, and club selection

 

Excellent service/tip - all of the above + generally fun to spend 4 hours with and excellent local course knowledge i.e. wind directions, hidden fairway speed slots, etc.

[4bees]

when we play streamsong in June 2023 i purposely got tee times where we can walk and not have to pay for them.  i dont need you to tell me yardages when i have my own range finder, i dont need you to rake my bunkers, i am not an idiot.  reading greens is about the only thing i am good at these days it seems.  so no worries there!  i will save my $100 and move on.  just no reason these days to have caddie.  

 

[golfday]

On 11/9/2022 at 10:37 AM, monty09 said:

 

I felt this way at Pebble Beach... i had a hungover bartender on his first loop and he reminded me what the min tip was.. i was less than pleased 

That is the worst. TBH I think we're seeing caddie quality go down across the board. As golf has boomed, the number of caddies on staff at a lot of resorts has gone way up so now there are a lot of new guys out there that aren't trained well and really don't know what they are doing. A good caddie is a great experience and they can shave a few shots, a bad caddie can cost you shots and frustrate you / remove some of the enjoyment of the day.

 

When you land on a bad one the best thing you can do is tell them in a respectful way that you like to use your own range finder and read your own putts, but could use their help with the bag, raking bunkers, pulling flags, finding balls, keeping stuff clean, etc, and that if you have any questions about the course you'll ask and they don't need to provide any input unless asked. If a bad caddie can follow that request then I can have a nice chat with them while we play and we both have a good day... but yes - I'll tip the bad caddie less.

[charli]

All good info!  Going in January can’t wait. was curious about all this so Well done 

[RTP419]

Our group is looking to book a last minute trip to Streamsong for end of April. Carts at that time are not required but I can’t seem to figure out if caddies are? Ideally I would prefer to walk and do everything on my own but I see carts are $35 and require a group caddie of $45/golfer. 
 

thanks

[ND2005]

18 hours ago, RTP419 said:

Our group is looking to book a last minute trip to Streamsong for end of April. Carts at that time are not required but I can’t seem to figure out if caddies are? Ideally I would prefer to walk and do everything on my own but I see carts are $35 and require a group caddie of $45/golfer. 
 

thanks

 

Unless something has changed recently, you can walk and carry your own bag with no caddie, or they also offer pushcart rentals. Caddie not mandatory. 

[Jillas]

In March, is it required to stay at Streamsong to play it? Any chance I can have my pro at my local Club call and see if a 4some can play wiht out staying on grounds?

[ND2005]

36 minutes ago, Jillas said:

In March, is it required to stay at Streamsong to play it? Any chance I can have my pro at my local Club call and see if a 4some can play wiht out staying on grounds?

Yes it is required to stay on property. No they don't care about phone calls from pros. 

[iamthebeard]

On 11/15/2022 at 10:25 AM, 4bees said:

when we play streamsong in June 2023 i purposely got tee times where we can walk and not have to pay for them.  i dont need you to tell me yardages when i have my own range finder, i dont need you to rake my bunkers, i am not an idiot.  reading greens is about the only thing i am good at these days it seems.  so no worries there!  i will save my $100 and move on.  just no reason these days to have caddie.  

 

Good luck at streamsong then... loosing at least 2-5 shots a round with that route

[ND2005]

1 hour ago, iamthebeard said:

Good luck at streamsong then... loosing at least 2-5 shots a round with that route

 

I mean depends if you've seen the courses before. They certainly helped me a lot the first round or two, but I've played each course enough I don't get much out of the caddies. 

 

I do, however, think having caddies makes a huge difference when you are playing 36 a day for multiple days. I'm paying them as much to carry my bag as anything. 

[4bees]

On 1/23/2023 at 6:50 AM, iamthebeard said:

Good luck at streamsong then... loosing at least 2-5 shots a round with that route

Oh man gonna lose sleep over 2-5 strokes. $20-50 per stroke basically. Yah you can still keep that bull crap fee. 

[iamthebeard]

I can't imagine spending 200$+ for a round and not enjoying my round by not even having have a clue where to play off a tee, then getting to a green and being even more clueless on the greens and three putting every other hole after being out of position. Sounds like an awesome time. 

[mstuewe]

I played streamsong red last year without a caddie.  I didn’t think it was a complex course design.  There were very few surprises and greens broke how we thought they would. A caddie would be nice, but you can play it as a first timer without one.

[Miker20890]

reviving an old thread here. i am headed down in sept as a single. playing all 3 courses and im assuming it will be too hot to walk so i am expecting to take a cart. as a single, how much should i tip the forecaddie on top of the $45 fee?

Edited July 1 by Miker20890

[jrg75]

52 minutes ago, Miker20890 said:

reviving an old thread here. i am headed down in sept as a single. playing all 3 courses and im assuming it will be too hot to walk so i am expecting to take a cart. as a single, how much should i tip the forecaddie on top of the $45 fee?

I did a very similar trip last year taking a cart with forecaddie, I handed them $100 after every round and they seemed happy with that.

[Miker20890]

1 hour ago, jrg75 said:

I did a very similar trip last year taking a cart with forecaddie, I handed them $100 after every round and they seemed happy with that.

awesome. Exact info I was looking for. Thanks. 

[Asics10]

Talk about bad caddie experience, there was this guy playing on the nationwide tour (now korn ferry) and the caddie was a kind of heavy fellow but not in bad shape. It was hot, like real hot, the tournament was being played at inland empire California.  The caddie got blisters so bad, plus a touch of heat stroke he needed to sit and take a break on 16. ... Oh that caddie was me... My guy should have fired my a** on the spot.