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^^^GIR^^^ and ability to get up and down

I love golf

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score/handicap.

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How do you measure yourself against other golfers?

 

By height........

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score/handicap.

 

What score/handicap do you look for?

 

Depends...

Great

Good

Okay

Average

Sucky

Crappy

Duffer?

Beginner

Pro

PGA pro

Mini tour pro

it's all relative.

 

I don't think of things in terms of Good vs. Okay...what does it matter?..I ask..what is your handicap? thats all I need to know. If they don't have one I ask "what is your best score this year?" We then negotiate bets and play golf.

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GIR

What if they can't putt? That's almost 1/2 the game.

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Consistent center strike combined with decent direction control. The center strike pretty much guarantees distance control. Add direction control and you got a playa.

 

Us hackers are all over the club face so distance is a crap shoot. I get a kick out of my buddies watch showing a 5 yard difference to the pin from my cell phone and him thinking that makes one bit of friggin' difference to us.

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^^^GIR^^^ and ability to get up and down

what if you are good at one and not the other?

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^^^GIR^^^ and ability to get up and down

what if you are good at one and not the other?

 

Then I guess that could be a viable difference between “good” and “okay...”

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GIR

What if they can't putt? That's almost 1/2 the game.

True. But I've not come across too many players who are hitting lots of GIR that can't putt.

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The correct answer is still your score.

 

 

different ways to get it done.

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GIR

What if they can't putt? That's almost 1/2 the game.

True. But I've not come across too many players who are hitting lots of GIR that can't putt.

 

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/players-championship-2018-jason-dufners-sunday-18th-hole-three-putt-cost-him-gulp-dollar726000

 

Yes, he is a great player, but relative to the tour he is just okay....if he could putt he would be top 5.

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I think you need to define it more than good vs. ok. To me good is low single digit but to others it might be different. I would say an ok player can hit greens, a good player can control what part of the green they hit.

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I think you need to define it more than good vs. ok. To me good is low single digit but to others it might be different. I would say an ok player can hit greens, a good player can control what part of the green they hit.

 

I agree that you have to define good vs. ok.

I am GenX.  If you really think I care about what you have to say, I don't.

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to me - it comes down to scrambling (including bunker play), FIRs and GIRs. putting is iffy at times for even the best - but hitting 50% fairways or more, or over 50% of greens and getting up and down at least 50% of the time makes you a good golfer in my eyes.

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A good player has already thought the hole from pin placement back to determine what part of the fairway he is aiming for. An OK player is aiming for the fairway.

 

I feel like this is high level player vs good player. I rarely think about what side of the fairway I want to hit, I would maybe on the most position based golf courses. And I would consider myself a pretty good player..

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Well after reading the replies I got lost. So I read the OP again.

Swing thoughts...

 

The Good player---- play my miss so that it can be managed.

 

 

 

The ok player---- Aim for the flag regardless of trouble

 

 

Shots

 

Good player ----45 feet radius of target from 150 yards

 

Ok player 70 feet radius of target from 150 yards

 

I dont care how the ball flight looks if its a repeatable distance then it wrx for me.

 

 

4th edit...head scratcher

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I'm at a point in my life I appreciate the company I keep on the course as opposed to how skilled a player is. Don't get me wrong, I still love playing with excellent players. As for myself, maybe my best golf, or potential, just may be behind me now. I am still aspiring to get back to scratch and believe this is a realistic possibility. Currently I am an OK player, one with potential and he ability to hit several very good shots in a round. I can putt well and my short game is getting better and better. I used to be a great player then became a good player. I'm working on shaking off the rust from my game. More importantly I am trying to act in a manner that is honerable and exhibits integrity. Honor, integrity, respect, exhibiting graciousness and class is what means more to me thank my skills.

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OK - 2 or more double bogeys per 18 holes

GOOD - 0-1 double bogey per 18 holes

 

Wouldn't that be subjective to the quality of the course a golfer plays?

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