Maltby TS2

[deepred]

1 hour ago, brew4eagle said:

Doing my dry weights for my TS3 assembly.  Not too impressed with DG Mid 115 scatter.  Raw weights:  5 iron 115.6 g, 7 iron 110.8g, 9 iron 111.9 g.  Spec is 114g.

 

Fortunately the TS3 head weights worked out where I only need a tip weight on the 9 iron.  Aiming for D0

That’s an Apollo like spread. You should contact True Temper. Even the non-gold shafts in my experience didn’t have a 5 gram spread.

[taki27]

10 hours ago, SE Gamer said:

 

So you have both in 19*? If so, how does ball flight and distance compare between the two?

The hybrid launches higher and about 10 yards longer than the FDI.  The FDI is definitely a larger driving iron, which did take a few range sessions to get used to, but works well.  The hybrid is just stupid easy to hit.    I play the TC Tour Driver and 4 wood, so the hybrid has the look I was used to

[pjc]

Apparently, TT is having some quality control issues, at least with these new Mid shafts.  This is not the first time that I have heard about the specs being way off on these!  Pretty sad considering the price they are selling them for....damn!!!

[brew4eagle]

1 hour ago, pjc said:

Apparently, TT is having some quality control issues, at least with these new Mid shafts.  This is not the first time that I have heard about the specs being way off on these!  Pretty sad considering the price they are selling them for....damn!!!

Doesn't seem like it will make a big enough difference on the final swingweights nor total weights.

 

Edit- I did contact golfworks to see what they think.  The weights are from a calibrated analytical balance in my lab, so I know they're accurate.

Edited March 17, 2023 by brew4eagle

[SE Gamer]

1 hour ago, taki27 said:

The hybrid launches higher and about 10 yards longer than the FDI.  The FDI is definitely a larger driving iron, which did take a few range sessions to get used to, but works well.  The hybrid is just stupid easy to hit.    I play the TC Tour Driver and 4 wood, so the hybrid has the look I was used to

 

Glad I asked. Think if I go this route, I'll give the hybrid a shot first. Should fill the gap nicely between my 4i and HL 3 wood.

[Bryceslu]

4 hours ago, coreyhr said:

 Going to put a set of spare KBS Tours in them this weekend and really see what they can do. 

If it were me…I would throw the kbs tour into the extra 7i you now have and do a side by side comparison!

 

Might just be my low opinion on the kbs tour though 🙂

[Popeye64]

1 hour ago, brew4eagle said:

Doesn't seem like it will make a big enough difference on the final swingweights nor total weights.

 

Edit- I did contact golfworks to see what they think.  The weights are from a calibrated analytical balance in my lab, so I know they're accurate.

I would be interested to see how they match frequency wise. If the weight effects them or its just marginal. 

If you roll with them, I would put the heaviest shafts in the wedges and go up. 

[coreyhr]

43 minutes ago, Bryceslu said:

If it were me…I would throw the kbs tour into the extra 7i you now have and do a side by side comparison!

 

Might just be my low opinion on the kbs tour though 🙂

Haha. Well I've played KBS Tour for the last 6 years, different strokes for different folks and what not. Putting those in will give me a true idea of what these babies can do. 

[gdb99]

6 hours ago, Snowman9000 said:

I’m with you. If only because I can’t imagine that they know more about grooves than shops like Ping and Titleist.  I suspect the narrower, more numerous grooves are better in dry, clean conditions but I wonder about the rough.

 

 

For me, it has nothing to do with performance. Like I said, Callaway has used more grooves on a number of different heads.

 

I would imagine that Maltby knows a lot about grooves and club design. And I would think the performance out of the rough would be pretty good. More grooves to get the moisture away from the ball/ face.

 

Edited March 17, 2023 by gdb99

[Klubster]

A little off topic, but has your order history disappeared from the Golfworks website since the update?

[ThinkingPlus]

24 minutes ago, Klubster said:

A little off topic, but has your order history disappeared from the Golfworks website since the update?

Yes.  Vaporized...

[Nideda24]

24 minutes ago, Klubster said:

A little off topic, but has your order history disappeared from the Golfworks website since the update?

Yes, but if you call they still have the records of previous orders. 

[brew4eagle]

4 hours ago, Popeye64 said:

I would be interested to see how they match frequency wise. If the weight effects them or its just marginal. 

If you roll with them, I would put the heaviest shafts in the wedges and go up. 

Only building 5, 7, and 9 half set, so no options as far optimizing which shaft goes in which head (taper tip shafts)

[Popeye64]

16 hours ago, brew4eagle said:

Only building 5, 7, and 9 half set, so no options as far optimizing which shaft goes in which head (taper tip shafts)

Well I'm surprised a steel taper tip is that far off from weight specs. That may play goofy. Interested in how they feel going from club to club. 

That much of a weight change has to be in wall thickness and I would assume the CPM might go up and down with the weight change. Being that a taper tip is already trimmed at a shorter length those weight changes can be more significant. If those same weight fluxations are on full size blanks it's not as pronounced. 

[brew4eagle]

46 minutes ago, Popeye64 said:

Well I'm surprised a steel taper tip is that far off from weight specs. That may play goofy. Interested in how they feel going from club to club. 

That much of a weight change has to be in wall thickness and I would assume the CPM might go up and down with the weight change. Being that a taper tip is already trimmed at a shorter length those weight changes can be more significant. If those same weight fluxations are on full size blanks it's not as pronounced. 

I started the build last night so will probably try them on Monday.  I'm a high single digit HC and probably won't be able to notice anything unless they're crazy off club-to-club. 

Edited March 18, 2023 by brew4eagle

[Popeye64]

2 minutes ago, brew4eagle said:

I started the build last night so will probably try them on Monday.  I'm a high a single digit HC and probably won't be able to notice anything unless they're crazy off club-to-club. 

Then you will definitely be able to play through any variances. 

[brew4eagle]

4 hours ago, Popeye64 said:

Then you will definitely be able to play through any variances. 

For what it's worth, the total assembled weights spread out nicely.  5i 420g, 7i 432g, 9i 446g.  I did add a 2g tip weight to the 9i to make it swingweight a tad higher as I like a touch heavier feel in shorter clubs.  Might hit them tmrw.

 

Edit- made final touches, here's some pics vs my DBMs I built in 2021.  5vs5, 7vs7, 9vs9...

Edited March 18, 2023 by brew4eagle

[brew4eagle]

Few more pics...

[brew4eagle]

And a few after ripping off the wrappers (5, 7, 9)

 

Edited March 18, 2023 by brew4eagle

[Spinozist]

[brew4eagle]

Got to walk 9 holes and try the TS3 half set out.  It was colder than what I usually play in and a bit windy, so distances difficult to gauge.  I can say I love the 5 iron.  It's the best I've hit a 5 iron in a long time.  Does anybody know if all the irons have the tungsten toe weight, or is it like a AP2 or PING set where the more lofted irons don't have the tungsten?  I wasn't enamored with the 7 or 9 iron, but the 5 iron is going straight in the bag.  It felt more stable than the DBM for sure.  But I didn't get the same feeling in the 7 or 9 irons.  If I had to play a serious round tmrw I'd go TS3 5 iron and then DBM 6 thru 9 iron.

 

The TS3s didn't seem to feel as soft as the DBMs, but did seem to give a heavier, more solid feeling strike.  Not sure how much that is the heads vs DG Mid 115 in TS3 vs Nippon NS Pro 1050GH in DBMs.  Real similar weights, but DG Mid 115 did have that heavier, DG feel.  While Nippons are smooth and just launch the ball into the stratosphere.  Need to do some more head to head testing in better weather.

 

Edit- after looking at them side-by-side some more today, I think I lean more towards the DBMs in the 7 thru 9 irons because of the thinner topline and taller heel.  But the slightly thicker topline and ever so slightly more offset in the TS3 5 iron looks better to me vs the DBM.  Something about the DBM 5 iron proportions don't jive with the rest of the DBM set and I didn't notice this until having the TS3s.  I guess that's the lack of progression in the DBM set showing up to my eye.  My next round will be TS3 5 iron, DBM 6-9.  If that goes well I'll probably try to sell the TS3 7 and 9 irons, though it probably won't be worth so I'll just keep as a 1/2 set for random 9 hole rounds.

Edited March 22, 2023 by brew4eagle

[TexanIIDriver]

Looks like the new fairways won't be available until the end of summer.  Until then the KE4 Tour 4 wood has locked down that spot in my bag.

[Mako J]

50 minutes ago, TexanIIDriver said:

Looks like the new fairways won't be available until the end of summer.  Until then the KE4 Tour 4 wood has locked down that spot in my bag.

Love mine. Been a very consistent and reliable club. Everyone who’s ever asked to hit it has been impressed by its feel.

[SE Gamer]

1 hour ago, TexanIIDriver said:

Looks like the new fairways won't be available until the end of summer.  Until then the KE4 Tour 4 wood has locked down that spot in my bag.

 

This is the only "issue" I have with GW/Maltby. The waiting game 🙂 

Edited March 22, 2023 by SE Gamer

[Klubster]

1 hour ago, SE Gamer said:

 

This is the only "issue" I have with GW/Maltby. The waiting game 🙂 

No different than waiting for the new introductions from any company.

[SE Gamer]

28 minutes ago, Klubster said:

No different than waiting for the new introductions from any company.

 

At face value, it's no different. But the timeline is a bit more drawn out with a smaller operation. 

Nothing against GW. Was meant to be light-hearted. 

[Colej]

8 hours ago, TexanIIDriver said:

Looks like the new fairways won't be available until the end of summer.  Until then the KE4 Tour 4 wood has locked down that spot in my bag.

Fantastic clubhead and the new fairways would have to be really great to earn that spot. 

[Popeye64]

22 hours ago, TexanIIDriver said:

Looks like the new fairways won't be available until the end of summer.  Until then the KE4 Tour 4 wood has locked down that spot in my bag.

That KE4 4 wood has to be the most versatile and solid performing FW head Maltby has ever done. I've built 6 for customers who are frustrated by a 3 wood head. 

The few degrees less can make a huge impact on a player. Nearly everyone comes back with being able to hit the 4 wood farther than their 3 wood. 

It has a lot to do with matching a swing speed with proper launch and spin but it's a revelation for the unknowing. 

[vandyfan]

@Popeye64 - is it overly simplistic to say that the only difference between the TE Forged and the DBM (aside from the finish and 1 degree of loft) is the bounce on the sole of the club? Is the 1 degree of bounce difference noticeable between the two? 

[NRJyzr]

13 minutes ago, vandyfan said:

@Popeye64 - is it overly simplistic to say that the only difference between the TE Forged and the DBM (aside from the finish and 1 degree of loft) is the bounce on the sole of the club? Is the 1 degree of bounce difference noticeable between the two? 

 

It's actually just the loft that is the difference.  The 1* reduced bounce is exactly because of the 1* stronger loft