Most overrated player on tour?

[tiderider]

fowler is currently ranked 9th in the world, and a quick glance at his finishes this year indicates it's probably in the 9-15 category, though that's also influenced by the sof stat ... so i'd say he's ranked right where he needs to be ... far as the usual "who do you think will win?" talk, yes, he is mentioned far too often ...

[Barfolomew]

Yeah but what makes a player overrated?!?!

 

Just cause the media and fans cant pick a winner its the players fault and then labeled as overrated....I never pick Rickie to win so not overrated to me. He's a top 2nd tier kinda guy and wouldnt bet nothin for him to win.

 

My gut says Rory is overrated for his great past play looms over him now that creates expectations and has physical abilities to hang with anyone but mental game is overrated....he often looks like a train wreck with

 

hissy fits way too much

[golfer07840]

Fowler has been a staple in the top 10 and the rankings don't care about hype so Fowler is not overrated at all. Nobody puts him above DJ, Spieth, Rory, Rose, etcetera. He's rated just as he should be.

 

The most overrated I can think of (who happens to be one of my favorite players) is Louis Oosthuizen. Anytime he pops up on a leaderboard he's treated like a guy to fear. But he's never won on US soil and his only win (The Open) came in 2010. Another one for a long time was Furyk in the majors. Announcers would act like he was unflappable under pressure even though he has had many times that he got in position and faded.

 

I sure hope Webb Simpson buys Furyk a drink every time they run into each other at the 19th hole for snap hooking that hybrid into the woods at Olympic on the 72nd hole while leading the U.S. Open.

[KMeloney]

Nearly all the guys on tour are extremely underrated. Some have no concept of how talented and elite of player you have to be, in order to even make an appearance on the PGA Tour

 

I'm pretty sure we DO all know that. Otherwise, this thread might have been titled "Which pro do you think you're much better than?" -- and the thread would be DOA.

 

For me, it's DeChambeau. Enough with the misunderstood genius crap.

[KirkNo-yes]

In my opinion Rickie is FAR fro being overrated. Dude is consistently in top 10, just because he hasn't won a ton doesn't mean he is overrated. Lee Westwood? is he? No. I would say Kuch is a good one. I would also say Oosthuizen is a great one. Poulter for all his pomp and circumstance is.What defines being overrated? expectations to win or succeed? Well, winning is insanely tough on tour. Being successful well it sure ain't easy. Rickie has been WILDLY successful. I would also say being overrated is more akin to a person who has all the "gifts" and appears to have undeniable talent but fails repeatedly. Justin Rose was like that for a LONG time. I actually think he still is a little overrated. Sergio could fall into the Rickie category. Hasn't won a ton but is wildly successful. Billy Horschel, Charles Howell III, Danny Lee, I mean Davis Love III with all his hype for so long won 1 major, wildly successful but not a ton of wins. Adam Scott is a GREAT example of being overrated. I LOVE Adam Scott but he hasn't won a ton. To me it comes down to what you see as overrated. You don't have to win to be successful or competitive. Sadly we set the bar so high for folks that anything short of domination is a failure. Rickie has "been" at or near the top since he stepped out on tour. That isn't being overrated. Guys that win something or a few times in a short period then fade away, that is overrated.

[Jordan Speeth]

Billy Horschel with Daniel Berger a close second. Billy wins on the fact that he's also overrated in his own mind.

[rawdog]

Nearly all the guys on tour are extremely underrated. Some have no concept of how talented and elite of player you have to be, in order to even make an appearance on the PGA Tour

 

Agree with this 100%. It is incredibly tough to win these events.

 

IMO, people forget about guys like Aaron Wise or Patton Kizzire who are immensely talented, and that Rickie or (insert famous player) should always be expected to beat them.

[MilkyButterCuts]

Nearly all the guys on tour are extremely underrated. Some have no concept of how talented and elite of player you have to be, in order to even make an appearance on the PGA Tour

 

Not was I was getting at, because I agree 100%.

 

On the PGA Tour, who is the most overrated. I think we can all agree that if you even consider playing golf for a living, you're a very very special talent.

 

All I'm saying is he's in the spotlight 24/7, multiple commercials and more often than not he's picked to win a major by multiple golf analysts. Just questioning if he has the credentials to back that up, that's all.

 

EDIT: Please note I am a huge Rickie fan

[00steven]

Hate to say but atm Rickie. Need to deliver.

[MilkyButterCuts]

fowler is currently ranked 9th in the world, and a quick glance at his finishes this year indicates it's probably in the 9-15 category, though that's also influenced by the sof stat ... so i'd say he's ranked right where he needs to be ... far as the usual "who do you think will win?" talk, yes, he is mentioned far too often ...

 

Exactly, not talking OWGR. More along the lines of the media.

[KirkNo-yes]

Nearly all the guys on tour are extremely underrated. Some have no concept of how talented and elite of player you have to be, in order to even make an appearance on the PGA Tour

 

Not was I was getting at, because I agree 100%.

 

On the PGA Tour, who is the most overrated. I think we can all agree that if you even consider playing golf for a living, you're a very very special talent.

 

All I'm saying is he's in the spotlight 24/7, multiple commercials and more often than not he's picked to win a major by multiple golf analysts. Just questioning if he has the credentials to back that up, that's all.

 

EDIT: Please note I am a huge Rickie fan

 

I get what you are saying, but I do think he has the credentials to be considered, we forget there are only 4 majors and only one person can win each one. That also puts what Tiger and Jack have done into perspective. The Horschel comment about the best in his mind, just ask him is freaking hilarious. Dudes ego is SO out of whack with his ACTUAL abilities. I think anyone who is on the Ryder Cup/Presidents cup (qualifier not picked) year in year out can't be considered overrated. Rickie falls into that ( don't think he was a captains pick but once) .

[Cwebb]

Nearly all the guys on tour are extremely underrated. Some have no concept of how talented and elite of player you have to be, in order to even make an appearance on the PGA Tour

 

Not was I was getting at, because I agree 100%.

 

On the PGA Tour, who is the most overrated. I think we can all agree that if you even consider playing golf for a living, you're a very very special talent.

 

All I'm saying is he's in the spotlight 24/7, multiple commercials and more often than not he's picked to win a major by multiple golf analysts. Just questioning if he has the credentials to back that up, that's all.

 

EDIT: Please note I am a huge Rickie fan

 

In today's environment, if you're marketable and are a higher ranked player, then the media will give you a lot of attention. I know that can be frustrating sometimes for those who don't seem to be considered as "marketable".

 

He's certainly "due" to win a bigger event, so I think most of the time he's a good pick. Other than Patrick Reed, he played the best at the Masters this year. He didn't lose it, based on his play down the the stretch

[sailfishchris]

Soooo...... they're technically the 150 or so best golfers on the planet.....Overrated! ....HA! ....Haney's a twit.

[tiderider]

fowler is currently ranked 9th in the world, and a quick glance at his finishes this year indicates it's probably in the 9-15 category, though that's also influenced by the sof stat ... so i'd say he's ranked right where he needs to be ... far as the usual "who do you think will win?" talk, yes, he is mentioned far too often ...

 

Exactly, not talking OWGR. More along the lines of the media.

it's not close, really ... no one gets mentioned to the degree he does for majors and big tournaments, with so little to show for it in the end ... since his 2014 run, he's been in the top 10 3 times in a major while being mentioned as a "favorite" every time ...

[the bishop]

I mean Davis Love III with all his hype for so long won 1 major, wildly successful but not a ton of wins.

Say what? DL3 has a lifetime exemption on the PGA Tour due to 20 wins. If you want to make an argument that he's underachieved only having won a single major go ahead I guess but in my book 20 PGA Tour wins and a major is a metric ton.

[youdamantiger]

Rickie might be overrated, but he still leads the Tour in WAG putting.

 

 

[KillerPenguin]

raw I'm on my third pot of coffee, I'm jumpier than a fart in a skillet.

Remind me to never eat your cooking.

[gvogel]

Yeah but what makes a player overrated?!?!

 

Just cause the media and fans cant pick a winner its the players fault and then labeled as overrated....I never pick Rickie to win so not overrated to me. He's a top 2nd tier kinda guy and wouldnt bet nothin for him to win.

 

My gut says Rory is overrated for his great past play looms over him now that creates expectations and has physical abilities to hang with anyone but mental game is overrated....he often looks like a train wreck with

 

hissy fits way too much

 

As much as I enjoy watching Rory play, I have to agree with you.

[Whit1969]

My vote is for Jon Rahm world #7. Don't get me wrong he has PLENTY of talent, but just can't get it done. They are always raving about his game and how good he is, but his results just do not prove that. Sure he is higher in the OWGR than Fowler but he only has 2 PGA tour wins and 3 European Tour wins. With his two best wins as the Farmer's Insurance at Torey Pines and the Irish Open/Open de Espana. His record in the major is horrible with one top five (4th at the 2018 Masters) and only one other inside the top 25 in I major appearances. In fact he has missed the cut in the last two majors this year. Rahm also lacks in the mental side of the game, emotions control his game. He is Sergio on steroids and honestly IMO it might be quite some time before he wins a major if he is even able to break through for a win.

 

Fowler, world #8, on the other hand has 4 PGA Tour wins and 2 European Tour wins. With his best being the 2015 Players and the HSBC in Abu Dhabi and the Scottish Open. He also has 8 top 5 finishes in the majors with top five in all four in 2014. He has finished 2nd, T20, and T28 in the first three majors this year. Fowler may be one of the best regarding the mental game as nothing bothers him or gets him sideways.

 

So it would depend on what criteria you are using for the most overrated player.

[johnnypro]

I have to go with Kuchar.

At least Fowler looks like he wants to win.

Kuchar looks like he's happy just to pick up another big check and smile his dopey Howdy Doodie smile.

The other poster who said he never considers Kuchar to win even when he's near the lead was spot on.

 

Of course, if we're talking about a generation ago, then DLIII and Couples are neck and neck,.

[cinnepa]

lee westwood?.....at least a couple years ago anyway. lately it seems like he's fallen off the map.

[straightshot7]

Emiliano Grillo by the announcers. They act like he's on the verge of being a top player but he's only won once in the U.S and he's 64th in the world ranks.

[cinnepa]

^^^^ remember camilo?

[3whacker]

Snedeker...absolutely disappears at the majors

[bandrz]

ya that Haney guy is over rated.

 

With how poorly Haney speaks its a wonder he has his own radio show.

 

I guess we're all different, because I really enjoy his show. I could listen to him and the Paulsen boys 24/7

 

I greatly enjoy Haney's show, but I agree it can't be denied that he is not a great speaker. The Paulsons show is great. I marvel at their ability to diagnose callers' problems over the phone. Extremely knowledgeable guys. XM has a really solid line up. I'm a fan.

[Potatohead]

My vote is for Jon Rahm world #7. Don't get me wrong he has PLENTY of talent, but just can't get it done. They are always raving about his game and how good he is, but his results just do not prove that. Sure he is higher in the OWGR than Fowler but he only has 2 PGA tour wins and 3 European Tour wins. With his two best wins as the Farmer's Insurance at Torey Pines and the Irish Open/Open de Espana. His record in the major is horrible with one top five (4th at the 2018 Masters) and only one other inside the top 25 in I major appearances. In fact he has missed the cut in the last two majors this year. Rahm also lacks in the mental side of the game, emotions control his game. He is Sergio on steroids and honestly IMO it might be quite some time before he wins a major if he is even able to break through for a win.

 

Fowler, world #8, on the other hand has 4 PGA Tour wins and 2 European Tour wins. With his best being the 2015 Players and the HSBC in Abu Dhabi and the Scottish Open. He also has 8 top 5 finishes in the majors with top five in all four in 2014. He has finished 2nd, T20, and T28 in the first three majors this year. Fowler may be one of the best regarding the mental game as nothing bothers him or gets him sideways.

 

So it would depend on what criteria you are using for the most overrated player.

 

lol. John Rahm has been on tour for like five minutes.

[MJisGOAT]

Rickie represents the game with class and controlled demeanor. His personality and character appear to be the hallmark of his contribution to the game. And that is certainly not overrated in my opinion.

[tsecor]

DJ is over rated to me.....great talent...but may not get the majors to be an all time great

[MilkyButterCuts]

Rickie represents the game with class and controlled demeanor. His personality and character appear to be the hallmark of his contribution to the game. And that is certainly not overrated in my opinion.

 

That's why I'm a big fan of his but I don't think he should be a favorite to win every other major, I'm hearing people pick him to win this weeks PGA. You'd have go down the list and ignore quite a few guys playing really good golf to pick Rickie. (i.e. JT, Molinari, Fleetwood, DJ, Koepka, JD, Finau, Reed)

 

I hope he proves me wrong.

[tiderider]

My vote is for Jon Rahm world #7. Don't get me wrong he has PLENTY of talent, but just can't get it done. They are always raving about his game and how good he is, but his results just do not prove that. Sure he is higher in the OWGR than Fowler but he only has 2 PGA tour wins and 3 European Tour wins. With his two best wins as the Farmer's Insurance at Torey Pines and the Irish Open/Open de Espana. His record in the major is horrible with one top five (4th at the 2018 Masters) and only one other inside the top 25 in I major appearances. In fact he has missed the cut in the last two majors this year. Rahm also lacks in the mental side of the game, emotions control his game. He is Sergio on steroids and honestly IMO it might be quite some time before he wins a major if he is even able to break through for a win.

 

Fowler, world #8, on the other hand has 4 PGA Tour wins and 2 European Tour wins. With his best being the 2015 Players and the HSBC in Abu Dhabi and the Scottish Open. He also has 8 top 5 finishes in the majors with top five in all four in 2014. He has finished 2nd, T20, and T28 in the first three majors this year. Fowler may be one of the best regarding the mental game as nothing bothers him or gets him sideways.

 

So it would depend on what criteria you are using for the most overrated player.

 

guy makes huge numbers on at least 1 hole saturdays and sundays ... this is the only time i've heard someone say he's one of the best in the mental game dept ...