Most overrated player on tour?

[bscinstnct]

2018 Season

 

DJ - 3 wins, 10 top 10's, 1 missed cut

Rory - 1 win, 5 top 10's, 4 mc's

Rickie - 0 wins, 4 top 10's, 3 mc's

 

To say DJ is overrated is asinine. Also, lets not forget Rory has 4 majors.

 

Rory has 4 majors, yes. And hasn't done much of anything in them since his hot streak. For the hype he gets, he's definitely underperformed. This guy took the place of Tiger on EA Sports golf game (and apparently single handled killed the franchise, too). Padraig had 3 majors in the span of what...2 years? Can we talk about him like Rory? Very similar major run during their hot streak.

 

He finished T2 3 weeks ago. Rest of your post is similarly reality-impaired.

 

We have to admit he has significantly dropped off in performance, Especially in Majors.

 

Get this

 

Rory has MC in the past 3 US Open.

 

And people talk about how long its been since TW has won.

 

But if Rory doesn't win this week, it will be a 4 year drought in majors for him.

 

At 25 years old, Rory had 4 majors. He was going to join Jack and TW in the ultra elite.

 

Unless he wins the PGA, he will be 30 next May and still have 4 Majors.

 

All this said, it looks like a great opportunity for him to win this week. I almost expect him to. He is still probably the most dangerous player out there if he gets in the kill zone and I'd love to see him make it happen.

[chris975d]

2018 Season

 

DJ - 3 wins, 10 top 10's, 1 missed cut

Rory - 1 win, 5 top 10's, 4 mc's

Rickie - 0 wins, 4 top 10's, 3 mc's

 

To say DJ is overrated is asinine. Also, lets not forget Rory has 4 majors.

 

Rory has 4 majors, yes. And hasn't done much of anything in them since his hot streak. For the hype he gets, he's definitely underperformed. This guy took the place of Tiger on EA Sports golf game (and apparently single handled killed the franchise, too). Padraig had 3 majors in the span of what...2 years? Can we talk about him like Rory? Very similar major run during their hot streak.

 

He finished T2 3 weeks ago. Rest of your post is similarly reality-impaired.

 

Did ANYONE who has watched Rory choke in majors the past few years really expect him to pull through? And what part of Padraig going on a similar short lived major win hot streak is "reality-impaired?" Rory is soft mentally. Which is fine, he's made truckloads of money and done well for himself. But he's not as great as he is made out to be, and if you just listen to the man himself talk, he all but says it. Hell, he's content if he never wins another major. So what deep-down gut drive does he have to do so?

 

So who's more of a choke, Rickie or Rory?

 

I personally literally put them on equal standing in the "can't pull away on the weekend of a major" category. I wouldn't bet a nickel on either to win a major they enter the weekend with a top 3 spot in.

[chris975d]

2018 Season

 

DJ - 3 wins, 10 top 10's, 1 missed cut

Rory - 1 win, 5 top 10's, 4 mc's

Rickie - 0 wins, 4 top 10's, 3 mc's

 

To say DJ is overrated is asinine. Also, lets not forget Rory has 4 majors.

 

Rory has 4 majors, yes. And hasn't done much of anything in them since his hot streak. For the hype he gets, he's definitely underperformed. This guy took the place of Tiger on EA Sports golf game (and apparently single handled killed the franchise, too). Padraig had 3 majors in the span of what...2 years? Can we talk about him like Rory? Very similar major run during their hot streak.

 

He finished T2 3 weeks ago. Rest of your post is similarly reality-impaired.

 

We have to admit he has significantly dropped off in performance, Especially in Majors.

 

Get this

 

Rory has MC in the past 3 US Open.

 

And people talk about how long its been since TW has won.

 

But if Rory doesn't win this week, it will be a 4 year drought in majors for him.

 

At 25 years old, Rory had 4 majors. He was going to join Jack and TW in the ultra elite.

 

Unless he wins the PGA, he will be 30 next May and still have 4 Majors.

 

All this said, it looks like a great opportunity for him to win this week. I almost expect him to. He is still probably the most dangerous player out there if he gets in the kill zone and I'd love to see him make it happen.

 

The parts in bold are where I agree and disagree. I agree totally with the first part in bold. He was supposed to be Tiger/Jack level. Nowhere close in reality. His attitude and drive just totally suck for that. Can't putt, won't admit it. Isn't worth a crap (compared to his "potential") with a wedge, but at least he did admit this in the presser yesterday.

 

I don't agree with him "getting in the kill zone". I think that's the opposite of Rory, actually. He can't go head to head with 1-2 guys on Sunday in a major and stomp them. He wilts. Doesn't have the mental game for that. Now, if the course does happen to suit his eye and game (usually a soft course), and he can get out front early and run away, he's ok. But he hasn't done that in, as you say, 4 years.

 

Could he change all of this? Sure. If he has half the potential he's billed to have, he has a whole decade of his 30s where he could catch back up. But nothing about him suggests that, down to his own words of being content.

[Shilgy]

 

If we are talking major wins, Rory is 1 better. One whole major better than Harrington. Basically my point...if Rory is so damn good, and a once a generation player like he was billed to be (next Tiger Woods), then why is he only one better than Padraig freaking Harrington? Shouldn't he be to 6,8, 10 majors by now? Why not? Maybe because he is overrated....

Maybe because Rory just turned 29? At which age Padraig had...let me look it up... oh yeah ZERO major wins. Harrington is similar to O'Meara. Got hot for 15 months and won a few majors later in his career.

 

PS Hogan didn't win a major until he was 33, about to turn 34. What exactly is so inept about having 4 at Rory's age again?

[cdnglf]

Rory has 4 majors, yes. And hasn't done much of anything in them since his hot streak. For the hype he gets, he's definitely underperformed. This guy took the place of Tiger on EA Sports golf game (and apparently single handled killed the franchise, too). Padraig had 3 majors in the span of what...2 years? Can we talk about him like Rory? Very similar major run during their hot streak.

 

He finished T2 3 weeks ago. Rest of your post is similarly reality-impaired.

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Did ANYONE who has watched Rory choke in majors the past few years really expect him to pull through? And what part of Padraig going on a similar short lived major win hot streak is "reality-impaired?" Rory is soft mentally. Which is fine, he's made truckloads of money and done well for himself. But he's not as great as he is made out to be, and if you just listen to the man himself talk, he all but says it. Hell, he's content if he never wins another major. So what deep-down gut drive does he have to do so?

 

If you can't see the difference between McIlroy and Harrington, your best option is to just stop posting.

 

If we are talking major wins, Rory is 1 better. One whole major better than Harrington. Basically my point...if Rory is so damn good, and a once a generation player like he was billed to be (next Tiger Woods), then why is he only one better than Padraig freaking Harrington? Shouldn't he be to 6,8, 10 majors by now? Why not? Maybe because he is overrated....

 

If you think he's overrated because he's not the next Tiger Woods, just say so and leave it there.

No need to ignore facts and make absurd comparisons.

[Texas1]

Tiger all day long

 

The hype he gets for just turning up. It’s exacerbated on here by a select few. Tigers playing, he’s going to win mark my words. Popcorn and beer ready all weekend, ready to go. Then part way through, oh going out to do yard work, no interest in this anymore.

 

He’s the needle goat cat god Jesus, wait till these players come up against him, repeat infinitum

 

Plays well thurs Friday then we get the famous pictures and the chips putts on YouTube. I think those that post these must have them on their bedroom ceiling for help at certain times ?

 

Even gc has turned into the tiger channel. It’s all good, I find it amusing esp the needle comments, always makes me think of 2 old women with knitting needles sat on a couch with no teeth ?

 

Rant and fun over.

 

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[middie8]

what bothers me about DJ is the label of "he really doesn't care". i believe that is what is holding him back. yes i know how many wins he has but he is not living up to his potential IMO.

 

i don't think we will ever see anyone sniff tigers career. there is too much money in the game anymore. win a few tournaments and you are flying in private jets and blowing off practice for corporate outings.

 

also, stay off my lawn (harrumph harrumph)

[cdnglf]

2018 Season

 

DJ - 3 wins, 10 top 10's, 1 missed cut

Rory - 1 win, 5 top 10's, 4 mc's

Rickie - 0 wins, 4 top 10's, 3 mc's

 

To say DJ is overrated is asinine. Also, lets not forget Rory has 4 majors.

 

Rory has 4 majors, yes. And hasn't done much of anything in them since his hot streak. For the hype he gets, he's definitely underperformed. This guy took the place of Tiger on EA Sports golf game (and apparently single handled killed the franchise, too). Padraig had 3 majors in the span of what...2 years? Can we talk about him like Rory? Very similar major run during their hot streak.

 

He finished T2 3 weeks ago. Rest of your post is similarly reality-impaired.

 

We have to admit he has significantly dropped off in performance, Especially in Majors.

 

Get this

 

Rory has MC in the past 3 US Open.

 

And people talk about how long its been since TW has won.

 

But if Rory doesn't win this week, it will be a 4 year drought in majors for him.

 

At 25 years old, Rory had 4 majors. He was going to join Jack and TW in the ultra elite.

 

Unless he wins the PGA, he will be 30 next May and still have 4 Majors.

 

All this said, it looks like a great opportunity for him to win this week. I almost expect him to. He is still probably the most dangerous player out there if he gets in the kill zone and I'd love to see him make it happen.

 

Agreed, no majors in 4 years is a disappointment. Probably most of all to him. He's been awful at the US Open, but 5 straight top 10s at the Masters, and 4 straight top 5s at the Open completely refute the notion that he "hasn't done much of anything in them since his hot streak".

 

But c'mon man, did you really need to bring up Tiger? Rory has put up the better part of a HoF career since Tiger last won.

[Shilgy]

Per Chamblee I guess Tiger was/is. Or perhaps he is just the biggest underachiever per our buddy Brandel. What a tool. And yes-I am enabling him by posting this I guess.

 

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/brandel-chamblee-says-tiger-woods-got-the-least-out-of-his-talent-of-any-player-in-history

[tsecor]

even Nicklaus went 3 years on multiple occasions without winning a major and 6 on another occasion.

 

Michelson didn't win his first for 10 years....never got to # 1 in WGR.

Tom Watson had 4 years or more between wins

 

that list goes on and on with the greats of this game......Rory is no different.....

 

Gary Player went 4 years on multiple occasions without winning a major...

 

The hate for rory is strong.....lol

[bscinstnct]

Tiger all day long

 

The hype he gets for just turning up. It's exacerbated on here by a select few. Tigers playing, he's going to win mark my words. Popcorn and beer ready all weekend, ready to go. Then part way through, oh going out to do yard work, no interest in this anymore.

 

He's the needle goat cat god Jesus, wait till these players come up against him, repeat infinitum

 

Plays well thurs Friday then we get the famous pictures and the chips putts on YouTube. I think those that post these must have them on their bedroom ceiling for help at certain times

 

Even gc has turned into the tiger channel. It's all good, I find it amusing esp the needle comments, always makes me think of 2 old women with knitting needles sat on a couch with no teeth

 

Rant and fun over.

 

 

Ha! Excellent.

 

But you forgot the fan outfits

 

 

 

[wagsgt]

They are all really good

[Texas1]

Tiger all day long

 

The hype he gets for just turning up. It's exacerbated on here by a select few. Tigers playing, he's going to win mark my words. Popcorn and beer ready all weekend, ready to go. Then part way through, oh going out to do yard work, no interest in this anymore.

 

He's the needle goat cat god Jesus, wait till these players come up against him, repeat infinitum

 

Plays well thurs Friday then we get the famous pictures and the chips putts on YouTube. I think those that post these must have them on their bedroom ceiling for help at certain times ��

 

Even gc has turned into the tiger channel. It's all good, I find it amusing esp the needle comments, always makes me think of 2 old women with knitting needles sat on a couch with no teeth ��

 

Rant and fun over.

 

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Ha! Excellent.

 

 

 

Yes I forgot the SHEEPLE ?. ?

[chris975d]

 

If you think he's overrated because he's not the next Tiger Woods, just say so and leave it there.

No need to ignore facts and make absurd comparisons.

 

But "the next Tiger Woods" is exactly what he was sold to us as. He's not that, therefore...overrated in terms of what he's billed to be.

[MilkyButterCuts]

If you think he's overrated because he's not the next Tiger Woods, just say so and leave it there.

No need to ignore facts and make absurd comparisons.

 

But "the next Tiger Woods" is exactly what he was sold to us as. He's not that, therefore...overrated in terms of what he's billed to be.

 

I think it's relatively safe to say no one will be the next Tiger Woods, which is why he's not overrated no matter what he does.

[Shilgy]

If you think he's overrated because he's not the next Tiger Woods, just say so and leave it there.

No need to ignore facts and make absurd comparisons.

 

But "the next Tiger Woods" is exactly what he was sold to us as. He's not that, therefore...overrated in terms of what he's billed to be.

So he has joined Sutton, Crenshaw, Grier Jones, Jerry Pate.....as the "next" big thing. Rory has as many majors won as that group combined

[bscinstnct]

even Nicklaus went 3 years on multiple occasions without winning a major and 6 on another occasion.

 

Michelson didn't win his first for 10 years....never got to # 1 in WGR.

Tom Watson had 4 years or more between wins

 

that list goes on and on with the greats of this game......Rory is no different.....

 

Gary Player went 4 years on multiple occasions without winning a major...

 

The hate for rory is strong.....lol

 

Due respect, but where are you getting this info?

 

From the time he won his first major (1962) until he won his 17th major (1980), Jack never went more than 2 years without a major. That's 18 years.

 

Tom Watson won his first major in 1975 and never went more than 2 years without winning a major until after his 8th in 1983.

 

Gary Player won his first major in 1959. He *never* went 4 years without a major until aftter he won his last in 1978.

 

And Phil did take a while to get rollin. But once he won his first, he never went more than 3 years til his 5th and last.

 

No hate for Rory. One of my favorites. And he can avoid being being the only one of the pros you mentioned to go 4 years without a major if he wins this week. I'd say he's the 2nd person I'd most like to see win ; )

[tsecor]

even Nicklaus went 3 years on multiple occasions without winning a major and 6 on another occasion.

 

Michelson didn't win his first for 10 years....never got to # 1 in WGR.

Tom Watson had 4 years or more between wins

 

that list goes on and on with the greats of this game......Rory is no different.....

 

Gary Player went 4 years on multiple occasions without winning a major...

 

The hate for rory is strong.....lol

 

Due respect, but where are you getting this info?

 

From the time he won his first major (1962) until he won his 17th major (1980), Jack never went more than 2 years without a major. That's 18 years.

 

Tom Watson won his first major in 1975 and never went more than 2 years without winning a major until after his 8th in 1983.

 

Gary Player won his first major in 1959. He *never* went 4 years without a major until aftter he won his last in 1978.

 

And Phil did take a while to get rollin. But once he won his first, he never went more than 3 years til his 5th and last.

 

No hate for Rory. One of my favorites. And he can avoid being being the only one of the pros you mentioned to go 4 years without a major if he wins this week. I'd say he's the 2nd person I'd most like to see win ; )

Here is players majors.....so there it is from wikipedia

Year Championship 54 holes Winning score Margin Runner(s)-up 1959 The Open Championship 4 shot deficit −4 (75-71-70-68=284) 2 strokes Fred Bullock, Flory Van Donck 1961 Masters Tournament 3 shot lead −8 (69-68-69-74=280) 1 stroke Charles Coe, Arnold Palmer 1962 PGA Championship 2 shot lead −2 (72-67-69-70=278) 1 stroke Bob Goalby 1965 U.S. Open 2 shot lead +2 (70-70-71-71=282) Playoff ¹ Kel Nagle 1968 The Open Championship (2) 2 shot deficit +1 (74-71-71-73=289) 2 strokes Bob Charles, Jack Nicklaus 1972 PGA Championship (2) 1 shot lead +1 (71-71-67-72=281) 2 strokes Tommy Aaron, Jim Jamieson 1974 Masters Tournament (2) 1 shot deficit −10 (71-71-66-70=278) 2 strokes Dave Stockton, Tom Weiskopf 1974 The Open Championship (3) 3 shot lead −2 (69-68-75-70=282) 4 strokes Peter Oosterhuis 1978 Masters Tournament (3) 7 shot deficit −11 (72-72-69-64=277) 1 stroke Rod Funseth, Hubert Green,

Tom Watson

[pheenomz4774]

what bothers me about DJ is the label of "he really doesn't care". i believe that is what is holding him back. yes i know how many wins he has but he is not living up to his potential IMO.

 

i don't think we will ever see anyone sniff tigers career. there is too much money in the game anymore. win a few tournaments and you are flying in private jets and blowing off practice for corporate outings.

 

also, stay off my lawn (harrumph harrumph)

 

And Tiger was flying commercial in 2005? He had all those things and more and still curb-stomped the PGA tour.

 

The excuses on why we don't see another Tiger in today's game...is because guys like Jack and Tiger come along SO RARELY that one doesn't exist right now. If we are always comparing somebody's "talent" level and expectations to match Jack or Tiger's career, we will always lose. We quite possibly won't EVER see another Jack or Tiger. Just because us fans and the media want to desperately have another Tiger-like personality in the game, doesn't mean a player is "overrated" because he isn't living up to those standards (despite how many of us also claim we detest Tiger or downplay his dominance).

[Shilgy]

what bothers me about DJ is the label of "he really doesn't care". i believe that is what is holding him back. yes i know how many wins he has but he is not living up to his potential IMO.

 

i don't think we will ever see anyone sniff tigers career. there is too much money in the game anymore. win a few tournaments and you are flying in private jets and blowing off practice for corporate outings.

 

also, stay off my lawn (harrumph harrumph)

 

And Tiger was flying commercial in 2005? He had all those things and more and still curb-stomped the PGA tour.

 

The excuses on why we don't see another Tiger in today's game...is because guys like Jack and Tiger come along SO RARELY that one doesn't exist right now. If we are always comparing somebody's "talent" level and expectations to match Jack or Tiger's career, we will always lose. We quite possibly won't EVER see another Jack or Tiger. Just because us fans and the media want to desperately have another Tiger-like personality in the game, doesn't mean a player is "overrated" because he isn't living up to those standards (despite how many of us also claim we detest Tiger or downplay his dominance).

Heck with Tiger.....

[IVM]

There will only ever be one Tiger Woods and no player will dominate the way he did . Jack Nicklaus may have more majors than Tiger but was it over a longer period ?

You ask the pro’s who played in Tiger’s dominance and they feared playing with Tiger with all the galleries and craziness that went on . Tiger was truly dominant and there was never one before him and neither will there be one after him .

Maybe the closest was Bobby Jones .

[SPrigge]

Nearly all the guys on tour are extremely underrated. Some have no concept of how talented and elite of player you have to be, in order to even make an appearance on the PGA Tour

 

I'm pretty sure we DO all know that. Otherwise, this thread might have been titled "Which pro do you think you're much better than?" -- and the thread would be DOA.

 

For me, it's DeChambeau. Enough with the misunderstood genius crap.

 

Could not agree more.

[Darth Putter]

Per Chamblee I guess Tiger was/is. Or perhaps he is just the biggest underachiever per our buddy Brandel. What a tool. And yes-I am enabling him by posting this I guess.

 

https://www.golfdige...ayer-in-history

 

 

 

 

why did I even click on that thing?

[lowheel]

DJ is physically imposing with his length, but can you call him the best when he NEVER plays internationally and blew his chance at a major 3 putting from 12 feet.....when he wins tournaments with weak fields by shooting -23 on a course which is set up so amateurs can score, to me he is over rated. Fowler as well....

 

Dj overrated???? yikes 19 wins in the last 10 years... he sure got lucky playing all those b events where amateurs were scoring 23 under. WOW! hes been the # 1 player for 2 years.hes under achieved in majors sure but has put himself right there many times. if he wins this week your post will look even more ridiculous than it is. My god man i get you dont like him but overrated? good grief

[lowheel]

even Nicklaus went 3 years on multiple occasions without winning a major and 6 on another occasion.

 

Michelson didn't win his first for 10 years....never got to # 1 in WGR.

Tom Watson had 4 years or more between wins

 

that list goes on and on with the greats of this game......Rory is no different.....

 

Gary Player went 4 years on multiple occasions without winning a major...

 

The hate for rory is strong.....lol

 

None of these #s are right except for mickelson never being #1 on OWGR...

[Darth Putter]

DJ is physically imposing with his length, but can you call him the best when he NEVER plays internationally and blew his chance at a major 3 putting from 12 feet.....when he wins tournaments with weak fields by shooting -23 on a course which is set up so amateurs can score, to me he is over rated. Fowler as well....

 

Dj overrated???? yikes 19 wins in the last 10 years... he sure got lucky playing all those b events where amateurs were scoring 23 under. WOW! hes been the # 1 player for 2 years.hes under achieved in majors sure but has put himself right there many times. if he wins this week your post will look even more ridiculous than it is. My god man i get you dont like him but overrated? good grief

 

 

He's won in China. He's won in Mexico. He's won 5 World Golf Championships, the best ever in the non Tiger division. He's also won four Fed Ex Cup Playoff events, twice at the Tournament of Champions and a US Open. That's 12 of his 19 wins Tsecor.

[lowheel]

DJ is physically imposing with his length, but can you call him the best when he NEVER plays internationally and blew his chance at a major 3 putting from 12 feet.....when he wins tournaments with weak fields by shooting -23 on a course which is set up so amateurs can score, to me he is over rated. Fowler as well....

 

Dj overrated???? yikes 19 wins in the last 10 years... he sure got lucky playing all those b events where amateurs were scoring 23 under. WOW! hes been the # 1 player for 2 years.hes under achieved in majors sure but has put himself right there many times. if he wins this week your post will look even more ridiculous than it is. My god man i get you dont like him but overrated? good grief

 

 

He's won in China. He's won in Mexico. He's won 5 World Golf Championships, the best ever in the non Tiger division. He's also won four Fed Ex Cup Playoff events, twice at the Tournament of Champions and a US Open. That's 12 of his 19 wins Tsecor.

 

Crazy how peoples biases cloud their judgement.

[Texas1]

Remember everyone apart from tiger is s*** and has under achieved

Well according to this site anyway ;)

[Shilgy]

Remember everyone apart from tiger is s*** and has under achieved

Well according to this site anyway ;)

Apart from Tiger? Half the crowd thinks he's overrated AND an underachiever. :)

[tiderider]

Remember everyone apart from tiger is s*** and has under achieved

Well according to this site anyway ;)

Apart from Tiger? Half the crowd thinks he's overrated AND an underachiever. :)

 

an underrated ability in and of itself ...