Jump to content
2025 Members Choice voting is now open! Vote now for your favorite gear! ×

Americanflatsticks


Recommended Posts

My buddy purchased a putter and after taking it to the course, he thought it felt very cheap and did not perform well. I personally have never had a first hand experience. (He doesnt post much here)

 

Ya, I am sure I believe you... LOL. You're a diehard lamb supporter and I wouldn't expect anything less from you. Felt cheap, yet the material is the same as Lambs.

Mostly PING clubs, with TaylorMade woods. Bellum Winmore Putter. Arccos user. BOA Is life.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 70
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

The balloons are a tad much. I do like the idea of more competition. It's better for all of us.

 

Cobra Aerojet LS Ventus Black 7

Srixon ZX 3w GD AD TP 7

Rogue 5w HZRDUS 

Vsteel 7w OG Kai'li 80
Srixon 785 5-9 PX LZ, 

Cleveland RTX4 PW PX 
SM8 56* PX
Scratch STI 60* S400
default_odyssey-small.jpg.2662364f2ba2433dc522f3b85be695f1.jpg LE PT 10 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My buddy purchased a putter and after taking it to the course, he thought it felt very cheap and did not perform well. I personally have never had a first hand experience. (He doesnt post much here)

 

I have been looking at picking up a putter from them. They look to be priced right and not the same BS cash grab that others are doing. Glad to see someone actually not trying to gouge the people for their "investment" putter. Plus they actually make putters and release them. (not just an accessory producer) Looks like they will do customs as well.

 

Just a FYI:

Carbon 1018 is Carbon 1018. Same Carbon Cameron Uses on his $5K+ putters

303 Stainless is 303 Stainless. Same Stainless Cameron Uses on his $5K+ putters

 

So not sure where they are coming from on the "felt cheap" I guess a 5-10K putter might feel like crap then. Performance is subjective, Tiger is on his 3rd putter in 3 weeks. So long to the Juno!

 

You should check out their Instagram account @americanputtercompany. I could point you to some cheap putter makers out there if your buddy wants to see cheap. But these look pretty cool.

 

PS all those Sheep Enthusiast sure liked what they saw on their 190 post thread on their Facebook page before the mods shut it down. :lock:

 

There is a lot more that goes into sound and feel than just the material. The design, finishing, and heat treatment has as much to do with the feel than anything including the material.

 

These don't really do anything for me. They look a little too unrefined for my eye but there is certainly a market out there for that kind of industrial look. To me nobody can compete with Lamb or Cameron when it comes to fit and finish. Their putters look more like jewelry than golf clubs. With that said I putt with a Toulon Garage Madison because it feels better and performs better than any other traditional looking putter I've ever putted with.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My buddy purchased a putter and after taking it to the course, he thought it felt very cheap and did not perform well. I personally have never had a first hand experience. (He doesnt post much here)

 

I have been looking at picking up a putter from them. They look to be priced right and not the same BS cash grab that others are doing. Glad to see someone actually not trying to gouge the people for their "investment" putter. Plus they actually make putters and release them. (not just an accessory producer) Looks like they will do customs as well.

 

Just a FYI:

Carbon 1018 is Carbon 1018. Same Carbon Cameron Uses on his $5K+ putters

303 Stainless is 303 Stainless. Same Stainless Cameron Uses on his $5K+ putters

 

So not sure where they are coming from on the "felt cheap" I guess a 5-10K putter might feel like crap then. Performance is subjective, Tiger is on his 3rd putter in 3 weeks. So long to the Juno!

 

You should check out their Instagram account @americanputtercompany. I could point you to some cheap putter makers out there if your buddy wants to see cheap. But these look pretty cool.

 

PS all those Sheep Enthusiast sure liked what they saw on their 190 post thread on their Facebook page before the mods shut it down. :lock:

 

There is a lot more that goes into sound and feel than just the material. The design, finishing, and heat treatment has as much to do with the feel than anything including the material.

 

These don't really do anything for me. They look a little too unrefined for my eye but there is certainly a market out there for that kind of industrial look. To me nobody can compete with Lamb or Cameron when it comes to fit and finish. Their putters look more like jewelry than golf clubs. With that said I putt with a Toulon Garage Madison because it feels better and performs better than any other traditional looking putter I've ever putted with.

 

Your right, not enough Jewelry look. Guess we should just go pay our 5K-10K for a SC or Lamb and be happy with it. Not trying to defend this company but the responses in this thread are amazing. Enjoy your Taulon! Sweet wand!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My buddy purchased a putter and after taking it to the course, he thought it felt very cheap and did not perform well. I personally have never had a first hand experience. (He doesnt post much here)

 

Ya, I am sure I believe you... LOL. You're a diehard lamb supporter and I wouldn't expect anything less from you. Felt cheap, yet the material is the same as Lambs.

 

Have you read the thread? I have criticized lamb as much as I have praised them Buy an APC putter for all I care. Im just posting the opinion of a guy who probably spends 25k a year in golf equipment, majority being putters. Hes not a big fan of lamb (has had one) and rolls bettinardi putters and he said these felt cheap and mass produced. Knock yourself out though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is funny though for the people saying Lamb copies everyone but when I go to the APC website it looks like Im on aliexpress searching Tyson Lamb

 

Well lamb does copy many 'concepts' as any putter company does, but this american flatsticks company is literally an attempt to cash in on Lamb's style and inability to produce product for customers. it's all cheap knockoffs of Lambs style.

AIMAX D 9FLAT + HD6/ AIMAX 16.5FLAT + HD/ ROGUESTMAX 18TC + TB7 / TR21X4-6 & TR20P7-10 + MDUS115 / JWSFRGD50+54+58°

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is funny though for the people saying Lamb copies everyone but when I go to the APC website it looks like Im on aliexpress searching Tyson Lamb

 

Well lamb does copy many 'concepts' as any putter company does, but this american flatsticks company is literally an attempt to cash in on Lamb's style and inability to produce product for customers. it's all cheap knockoffs of Lambs style.

 

Dont forget to call out Ping for cashing in on the dale head style as well. Cant believe that Lamb invented the internet also! That Scotty Dale though...Just another cheap knockoff. LOL ... Get a grip my man and go "invest" in another putter. 401K stalled out?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is funny though for the people saying Lamb copies everyone but when I go to the APC website it looks like Im on aliexpress searching Tyson Lamb

 

Well lamb does copy many 'concepts' as any putter company does, but this american flatsticks company is literally an attempt to cash in on Lamb's style and inability to produce product for customers. it's all cheap knockoffs of Lambs style.

 

Dont forget to call out Ping for cashing in on the dale head style as well. Cant believe that Lamb invented the internet also! That Scotty Dale though...Just another cheap knockoff. LOL ... Get a grip my man and go "invest" in another putter. 401K stalled out?

 

I dont own a lamb putter. Im also not talking about headshapes. Im talking about details. Scotty/Ping whoever does not do the details that Tyson does (chiseled necks etc). This knock off company does though and does it poorly

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is funny though for the people saying Lamb copies everyone but when I go to the APC website it looks like Im on aliexpress searching Tyson Lamb

 

Well lamb does copy many 'concepts' as any putter company does, but this american flatsticks company is literally an attempt to cash in on Lamb's style and inability to produce product for customers. it's all cheap knockoffs of Lambs style.

 

Dont forget to call out Ping for cashing in on the dale head style as well. Cant believe that Lamb invented the internet also! That Scotty Dale though...Just another cheap knockoff. LOL ... Get a grip my man and go "invest" in another putter. 401K stalled out?

 

I dont own a lamb putter. Im also not talking about headshapes. Im talking about details. Scotty/Ping whoever does not do the details that Tyson does (chiseled necks etc). This knock off company does though and does it poorly

 

Um ok... Necks... Got it. Oh the Irony

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is funny though for the people saying Lamb copies everyone but when I go to the APC website it looks like Im on aliexpress searching Tyson Lamb

 

Well lamb does copy many 'concepts' as any putter company does, but this american flatsticks company is literally an attempt to cash in on Lamb's style and inability to produce product for customers. it's all cheap knockoffs of Lambs style.

 

Dont forget to call out Ping for cashing in on the dale head style as well. Cant believe that Lamb invented the internet also! That Scotty Dale though...Just another cheap knockoff. LOL ... Get a grip my man and go "invest" in another putter. 401K stalled out?

 

I dont own a lamb putter. Im also not talking about headshapes. Im talking about details. Scotty/Ping whoever does not do the details that Tyson does (chiseled necks etc). This knock off company does though and does it poorly

 

Um ok... Necks... Got it. Oh the Irony

 

Its pretty clear you just have a blind hate for Lamb. You have been here since 06 and have 6 posts, Im guessing all in this thread. You can move along and disappear again. The whole APC website is just all knockoff Lamb

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My buddy purchased a putter and after taking it to the course, he thought it felt very cheap and did not perform well. I personally have never had a first hand experience. (He doesnt post much here)

 

I have been looking at picking up a putter from them. They look to be priced right and not the same BS cash grab that others are doing. Glad to see someone actually not trying to gouge the people for their "investment" putter. Plus they actually make putters and release them. (not just an accessory producer) Looks like they will do customs as well.

 

Just a FYI:

Carbon 1018 is Carbon 1018. Same Carbon Cameron Uses on his $5K+ putters

303 Stainless is 303 Stainless. Same Stainless Cameron Uses on his $5K+ putters

 

So not sure where they are coming from on the "felt cheap" I guess a 5-10K putter might feel like crap then. Performance is subjective, Tiger is on his 3rd putter in 3 weeks. So long to the Juno!

 

You should check out their Instagram account @americanputtercompany. I could point you to some cheap putter makers out there if your buddy wants to see cheap. But these look pretty cool.

 

PS all those Sheep Enthusiast sure liked what they saw on their 190 post thread on their Facebook page before the mods shut it down. :lock:

 

There is a lot more that goes into sound and feel than just the material. The design, finishing, and heat treatment has as much to do with the feel than anything including the material.

 

These don't really do anything for me. They look a little too unrefined for my eye but there is certainly a market out there for that kind of industrial look. To me nobody can compete with Lamb or Cameron when it comes to fit and finish. Their putters look more like jewelry than golf clubs. With that said I putt with a Toulon Garage Madison because it feels better and performs better than any other traditional looking putter I've ever putted with.

 

Your right, not enough Jewelry look. Guess we should just go pay our 5K-10K for a SC or Lamb and be happy with it. Not trying to defend this company but the responses in this thread are amazing. Enjoy your Taulon! Sweet wand!

 

They look decent but if you think the level of machining and finish of those two putters match that of Cameron or Lamb you don't know anything about machining and design.

 

I'm not knocking the putters you're showing and I'm not a Lamb or a Cameron guy but from and artistic and a technical aspect nobody does fit and finish like Lamb and Cameron. Sean Toulon even said that recently and those guys are his fierce competitors.

 

The attention to detail isn't quite there with the two putters you've posted. I can point out probably a half dozen areas where they are struggling from a machining and finish standpoint but that gives them a sort of industrial look that some people like.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My buddy purchased a putter and after taking it to the course, he thought it felt very cheap and did not perform well. I personally have never had a first hand experience. (He doesnt post much here)

 

I have been looking at picking up a putter from them. They look to be priced right and not the same BS cash grab that others are doing. Glad to see someone actually not trying to gouge the people for their "investment" putter. Plus they actually make putters and release them. (not just an accessory producer) Looks like they will do customs as well.

 

Just a FYI:

Carbon 1018 is Carbon 1018. Same Carbon Cameron Uses on his $5K+ putters

303 Stainless is 303 Stainless. Same Stainless Cameron Uses on his $5K+ putters

 

So not sure where they are coming from on the "felt cheap" I guess a 5-10K putter might feel like crap then. Performance is subjective, Tiger is on his 3rd putter in 3 weeks. So long to the Juno!

 

You should check out their Instagram account @americanputtercompany. I could point you to some cheap putter makers out there if your buddy wants to see cheap. But these look pretty cool.

 

PS all those Sheep Enthusiast sure liked what they saw on their 190 post thread on their Facebook page before the mods shut it down. :lock:

 

There is a lot more that goes into sound and feel than just the material. The design, finishing, and heat treatment has as much to do with the feel than anything including the material.

 

These don't really do anything for me. They look a little too unrefined for my eye but there is certainly a market out there for that kind of industrial look. To me nobody can compete with Lamb or Cameron when it comes to fit and finish. Their putters look more like jewelry than golf clubs. With that said I putt with a Toulon Garage Madison because it feels better and performs better than any other traditional looking putter I've ever putted with.

 

Your right, not enough Jewelry look. Guess we should just go pay our 5K-10K for a SC or Lamb and be happy with it. Not trying to defend this company but the responses in this thread are amazing. Enjoy your Taulon! Sweet wand!

 

They look decent but if you think the level of machining and finish of those two putters match that of Cameron or Lamb you don't know anything about machining and design.

 

I'm not knocking the putters you're showing and I'm not a Lamb or a Cameron guy but from and artistic and a technical aspect nobody does fit and finish like Lamb and Cameron. Sean Toulon even said that recently and those guys are his fierce competitors.

 

The attention to detail isn't quite there with the two putters you've posted. I can point out probably a half dozen areas where they are struggling from a machining and finish standpoint but that gives them a sort of industrial look that some people like.

 

 

First of all, im sure they are flattered for everyone in this thread saying they are like lamb or sc with their sub $1K all in price. 2nd of all, I have personally seen milling issues with Scotty's 009M and Lambs as well. Not sure we want to start slinging mud over the putter manufactures in this thread or another. But to each their own.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have a Scotty as well. But If you really want to split hairs about machining techniques plenty of tool issues are left on Scotty's and Lambs, Lots of Chatter on the bottom meaning they dont have their speeds and feeds correct for their machining techniques. Seen plenty of 009M's with this issue. Oh and for Lamb, he could not even get the fillet right on his mothers birthday putter... Just saying, dont think there is a perfect person or putter out there. There are other issues as well on both Scotty's and lambs and bettinardi's and pretty much all of them. For a fraction of the price of the Cameron and the Lambs, this is a putter I will buy, have a custom order in now. Will post feedback when its done! Its your money, do what you want with it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I get that this company is offering a less pricey alternative - it shows a bit, and get why the collector makers do what they do, but don't take a holier than thou stance on Lamb. He's ripped off GO TEXAN, Donut Shop Coffee logo, Mann Krafted, and I swear I have seen the lamb and lightening bolt before - possibly an Elvis thing. Artists are blasted for doing this, machinists are called artists for doing this. I don't get it, but then I don't really care much more than making a post about it...

Honma TR20 Vizard RED S

Callaway Fusion 3 Wood Recoil S

PXG 6-Gap TT Elevate S

Vokey SM8 50, 54, 58

Scotty Phantom X 5.5

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have a Scotty as well. But If you really want to split hairs about machining techniques plenty of tool issues are left on Scotty's and Lambs, Lots of Chatter on the bottom meaning they dont have their speeds and feeds correct for their machining techniques. Seen plenty of 009M's with this issue. Oh and for Lamb, he could not even get the fillet right on his mothers birthday putter... Just saying, dont think there is a perfect person or putter out there. There are other issues as well on both Scotty's and lambs and bettinardi's and pretty much all of them. For a fraction of the price of the Cameron and the Lambs, this is a putter I will buy, have a custom order in now. Will post feedback when its done! Its your money, do what you want with it.

 

The picture on the left is intentional like the face milling started as. The one on the right is a little strange because that radius is probably finished by hand.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

First of all, im sure they are flattered for everyone in this thread saying they are like lamb or sc with their sub $1K all in price. 2nd of all, I have personally seen milling issues with Scotty's 009M and Lambs as well. Not sure we want to start slinging mud over the putter manufactures in this thread or another. But to each their own.

 

The fit and finish isn't even close. I'm not slinging mud because I wouldn't buy a putter from any of the three brands but the attention to detail on the two pictures you showed isn't even close to what you'll find in a Cameron or a Lamb.

 

Bettinardi is a different story. I have actually done some work with his machine shop and he's got some really good machinists but he went down a strange road with materials, finishes and shafts. From a technical standpoint Bettinardi probably has the best capabilities but he doesn't have the design/artistry of Cameron.

 

I think the other guy who is really close to the level of Lamb and Cameron is Byron. His machining is beautiful and a couple of his designs are classics. You can definitely tell that he spends a lot of time shaping his heads by hand because they are really good looking.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

First of all, im sure they are flattered for everyone in this thread saying they are like lamb or sc with their sub $1K all in price. 2nd of all, I have personally seen milling issues with Scotty's 009M and Lambs as well. Not sure we want to start slinging mud over the putter manufactures in this thread or another. But to each their own.

 

The fit and finish isn't even close. I'm not slinging mud because I wouldn't buy a putter from any of the three brands but the attention to detail on the two pictures you showed isn't even close to what you'll find in a Cameron or a Lamb.

 

Bettinardi is a different story. I have actually done some work with his machine shop and he's got some really good machinists but he went down a strange road with materials, finishes and shafts. From a technical standpoint Bettinardi probably has the best capabilities but he doesn't have the design/artistry of Cameron.

 

I think the other guy who is really close to the level of Lamb and Cameron is Byron. His machining is beautiful and a couple of his designs are classics. You can definitely tell that he spends a lot of time shaping his heads by hand because they are really good looking.

Strange road? What does that even mean? Betti uses carbon steel, 303SS, and DASS for their metals, unique finishes, and standard shafts minus 2016/17 BB which was totally new to the industry. Look at the product their are putting out now I'd say its far and sure top 2, scotty and betti.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

First of all, im sure they are flattered for everyone in this thread saying they are like lamb or sc with their sub $1K all in price. 2nd of all, I have personally seen milling issues with Scotty's 009M and Lambs as well. Not sure we want to start slinging mud over the putter manufactures in this thread or another. But to each their own.

 

The fit and finish isn't even close. I'm not slinging mud because I wouldn't buy a putter from any of the three brands but the attention to detail on the two pictures you showed isn't even close to what you'll find in a Cameron or a Lamb.

 

Bettinardi is a different story. I have actually done some work with his machine shop and he's got some really good machinists but he went down a strange road with materials, finishes and shafts. From a technical standpoint Bettinardi probably has the best capabilities but he doesn't have the design/artistry of Cameron.

 

I think the other guy who is really close to the level of Lamb and Cameron is Byron. His machining is beautiful and a couple of his designs are classics. You can definitely tell that he spends a lot of time shaping his heads by hand because they are really good looking.

Strange road? What does that even mean? Betti uses carbon steel, 303SS, and DASS for their metals, unique finishes, and standard shafts minus 2016/17 BB which was totally new to the industry. Look at the product their are putting out now I'd say its far and sure top 2, scotty and betti.

 

The use DASS (which is a joke, it's heat treated stainless) and 303 on their tour putters.

 

Have you used one of their retail offerings? They are junk. They look like pot metal garbage you would buy at Walmart.

 

Putting a matte finish steel shaft is new to the industry? Bullseye did it about 30 years ago.

 

The tour stuff Betti does is really good. The retail line is garbage. It's amazing nobody has figured out to make an 009 head without all kinds of dots and inserts all over it and put it on the shelves for $400.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

First of all, im sure they are flattered for everyone in this thread saying they are like lamb or sc with their sub $1K all in price. 2nd of all, I have personally seen milling issues with Scotty's 009M and Lambs as well. Not sure we want to start slinging mud over the putter manufactures in this thread or another. But to each their own.

 

The fit and finish isn't even close. I'm not slinging mud because I wouldn't buy a putter from any of the three brands but the attention to detail on the two pictures you showed isn't even close to what you'll find in a Cameron or a Lamb.

 

Bettinardi is a different story. I have actually done some work with his machine shop and he's got some really good machinists but he went down a strange road with materials, finishes and shafts. From a technical standpoint Bettinardi probably has the best capabilities but he doesn't have the design/artistry of Cameron.

 

I think the other guy who is really close to the level of Lamb and Cameron is Byron. His machining is beautiful and a couple of his designs are classics. You can definitely tell that he spends a lot of time shaping his heads by hand because they are really good looking.

Strange road? What does that even mean? Betti uses carbon steel, 303SS, and DASS for their metals, unique finishes, and standard shafts minus 2016/17 BB which was totally new to the industry. Look at the product their are putting out now I'd say its far and sure top 2, scotty and betti.

 

The use DASS (which is a joke, it's heat treated stainless) and 303 on their tour putters.

 

Have you used one of their retail offerings? They are junk. They look like pot metal garbage you would buy at Walmart.

 

Putting a matte finish steel shaft is new to the industry? Bullseye did it about 30 years ago.

 

The tour stuff Betti does is really good. The retail line is garbage. It's amazing nobody has figured out to make an 009 head without all kinds of dots and inserts all over it and put it on the shelves for $400.

I have used one of their retail offerings and thought it was phenomenal, Queen B 8, as do many golfers. I just needed something a little more face balanced for my stroke. I am starting to see Betti more and more in golfers bags, and of course a major win this year doesn't hurt... if you think they are garbage what is Taylormade? Odyssey? Ping?.. all cast in China...what about Scotty's insert production line that no one uses on tour and his kool-aid drinkers are rallying against?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

hahaha such a fake!

 

This is amazing this putter is on Tablerock.com. Is Jim Butler leaving TL?

 

I feel that Burke putters are to Betti

American Flat Sticks are to Lamb

Byron Morgan is to Cameron... there is a copy cat in every industry.

 

No,, the original image is attributed to a strange generic host your own design site. Def not Tablerock.com,, though I did not look on that site, just followed the jpeg.

Honma TR20 Vizard RED S

Callaway Fusion 3 Wood Recoil S

PXG 6-Gap TT Elevate S

Vokey SM8 50, 54, 58

Scotty Phantom X 5.5

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I feel I can't honestly share a complete opinion on a putter until I've used one. I was fortunate enough to have friends who were generous enough to let me use their limited putters allowing me to decide where my money should go.

 

This American Putter Company looks like many of the boutique putter companies. I think what they're offering for the prices is great. I have no issue if they borrow style or are inspired by other makers with their designs. I like what Swag is doing, I like what Byron does, I like what MannKrafted does, I like what Betti is putting out, I like what Lamb's doing. Competition is a good thing.

 

I'll reserve my full and fair assessment of APC's putters until I get to see one in hand and actually roll some balls with it. But based on the images they've released earlier on their IG page, they do appear to photoshop some of their pics a bit. I want to see one in hand.

[size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Cobra F8+[/font][/size]
[size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Adams Tight Lies Tour 14.5[/font][/size]
[size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Cobra AMP 18[/font][/size]
[size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Bridgestone J40 Combo [/font][/size]
[size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway MP3 52/58[/font][/size]
[size=4][font=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Tyson Lamb Custom Bridgeport[/font][/size]
[font="tahoma, geneva, sans-serif"]Vice Pro +[/font]

Link to comment
Share on other sites

First of all, im sure they are flattered for everyone in this thread saying they are like lamb or sc with their sub $1K all in price. 2nd of all, I have personally seen milling issues with Scotty's 009M and Lambs as well. Not sure we want to start slinging mud over the putter manufactures in this thread or another. But to each their own.

 

The fit and finish isn't even close. I'm not slinging mud because I wouldn't buy a putter from any of the three brands but the attention to detail on the two pictures you showed isn't even close to what you'll find in a Cameron or a Lamb.

 

Bettinardi is a different story. I have actually done some work with his machine shop and he's got some really good machinists but he went down a strange road with materials, finishes and shafts. From a technical standpoint Bettinardi probably has the best capabilities but he doesn't have the design/artistry of Cameron.

 

I think the other guy who is really close to the level of Lamb and Cameron is Byron. His machining is beautiful and a couple of his designs are classics. You can definitely tell that he spends a lot of time shaping his heads by hand because they are really good looking.

Strange road? What does that even mean? Betti uses carbon steel, 303SS, and DASS for their metals, unique finishes, and standard shafts minus 2016/17 BB which was totally new to the industry. Look at the product their are putting out now I'd say its far and sure top 2, scotty and betti.

 

The use DASS (which is a joke, it's heat treated stainless) and 303 on their tour putters.

 

Have you used one of their retail offerings? They are junk. They look like pot metal garbage you would buy at Walmart.

 

Putting a matte finish steel shaft is new to the industry? Bullseye did it about 30 years ago.

 

The tour stuff Betti does is really good. The retail line is garbage. It's amazing nobody has figured out to make an 009 head without all kinds of dots and inserts all over it and put it on the shelves for $400.

I have used one of their retail offerings and thought it was phenomenal, Queen B 8, as do many golfers. I just needed something a little more face balanced for my stroke. I am starting to see Betti more and more in golfers bags, and of course a major win this year doesn't hurt... if you think they are garbage what is Taylormade? Odyssey? Ping?.. all cast in China...what about Scotty's insert production line that no one uses on tour and his kool-aid drinkers are rallying against?

 

Did I ever say TM, Ping etc. were good putters? Regardless I thought we were trying to compare apples to apples and talk about the "premium" brands like Byron, Cameron, Lamb, etc. etc. etc. basically milled putters.

 

The two Betti's you mentioned are stainless offerings that are either limited runs or tour. The Queen Bee is nice looking work but as you'll see they aren't available anymore and was more of a premium limited run. I'm talking about their actual retail lines, the BB and the Studio Stock. I think the Studio Stock line has the cheapest looking finish I've ever seen on a $400 putter. I like them offering carbon steel but they're trying to offer a maintenance free finish and I think they just got it wrong.

 

I'm not a Scotty Cameron guy but I give him a lot of credit. Artistically and finish wise he's as good as there is. I also get that he basically just copies Ping designs but he really is the reason why we're talking about premium putters because he pretty much started the craze.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • 2025 Wyndham Championship - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 Wyndham Championship - Tuesday #1
      2025 Wyndham Championship - Tuesday #2
      2025 Wyndham Championship - Tuesday #3
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Chandler Phillips - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Davis Riley - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Scotty Kennon - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Austin Duncan - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Will Chandler - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Kevin Roy - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Ben Griffin - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Peter Malnati - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Ryan Gerard - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Adam Schenk - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Kurt Kitayama - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Camilo Villegas - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Matti Schmid - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
       
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Denny McCarthy's custom Cameron putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Swag Golf putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Karl Vilips TM MG5 wedges - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      New Bettinardi putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Matt Fitzpatrick's custom Bettinardi putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Cameron putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 7 replies
    • 2025 3M Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 3M Open - Tuesday #1
      2025 3M Open - Tuesday #2
      2025 3M Open - Tuesday #3
      2025 3M Open - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Luke List - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Isaiah Salinda - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Akshay Bhatia - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Kaito Onishi - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Chris Gotterup - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Rickie Fowler - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Seamus Power - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Chris Kirk - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Vince Whaley - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Andrew Putnam - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      David Lipsky - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Thomas Campbell - Minnesota PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Max Herendeen - WITB - 2025 3M Open
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Rickie's custom Joe Powell persimmon driver - 2025 3M Open
      Custom Cameron T-9.5 - 2025 3M Open
      Tom Kim's custom prototype Cameron putter - 2025 3M Open
      New Cameron prototype putters - 2025 3M Open
      Zak Blair's latest Scotty acquisition - 2025 3M Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
      • 5 replies
    • 2025 The Open Championship - Discussions and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 The Open Championship - Sunday #1
      2025 The Open Championship – Monday #1
      2025 The Open Championship - Monday #2
      2025 Open Championship – Monday #3
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Cobra's 153rd Open Championship staff bag - 2025 The Open Championship
      Srixon's 153rd Open Championship staff bag - 2025 The Open Championship
      Scotty Cameron 2025 Open Championship putter covers - 2025 The Open Championship
      TaylorMade's 153rd Open Championship staff bag - 2025 The Open Championship
      Shane Lowry - testing a couple of Cameron putters - 2025 The Open Championship
      New Scotty Cameron Phantom Black putters(and new cover & grip) - 2025 The Open Championship
       
       
       




















       
       
       
       
        • Haha
        • Like
      • 26 replies
    • 2025 Genesis Scottish Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 Genesis Scottish Open - Monday #1
      2025 Genesis Scottish Open - Tuesday #1
      2025 Genesis Scottish Open - Tuesday #2
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Adrian Otaegui - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Luke Donald - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Haotong Li - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Callum Hill - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Johannes Veerman - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Dale Whitnell - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Martin Couvra - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Daniel Hillier - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Angel Hidalgo Portillo - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Simon Forsstrom - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      J.H. Lee - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Marcel Schneider - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Ugo Coussaud - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Todd Clements - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Shaun Norris - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Marco Penge - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Nicolai Von Dellingshausen - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Hong Taek Kim - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Julien Guerrier - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Richie Ramsey - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima's TaylorMade P-8CB irons - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Francesco Laporta - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Aaron Cockerill - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Sebastian Soderberg - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Connor Syme - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jeff Winther - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Woo Young Cho - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Bernd Wiesberger - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Andy Sullivan - WITB 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jacques Kruyswijk - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Pablo Larrazabal - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Thriston Lawrence - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Darius Van Driel - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Grant Forrest - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jordan Gumberg - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Nacho Elvira - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Romain Langasque - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Dan Bradbury - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Yannik Paul - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Ashun Wu - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Alex Del Rey - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made gamer - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made putter (back-up??) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      New TaylorMade P-UDI (Stinger Squadron cover) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Rory's custom Joe Powell (Career Slam) persimmon driver & cover - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima's TaylorMade P-8CB irons - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Tommy Fleetwood's son Mo's TM putter - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
      • 20 replies
    • 2025 John Deere Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #1
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #2
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Carson Young - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Zac Blair - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Anders Albertson - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Jay Giannetto - Iowa PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      John Pak - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Brendan Valdes - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cristobal del Solar - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Dylan Frittelli - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Justin Lowers new Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Bettinardi new Core Carbon putters - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter covers - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
      • 2 replies

×
×
  • Create New...