fowler improper drop

[davep043]

Maybe we need Rickie and Mr. Summers in an old-fashioned debate, broadcast live. I bet THAT would get a few viewers.

 

Love it! Pay-per-view, haha! To your previous point, however, Rickie debating a potato about the rules would get significantly more views than Mr. Summers doing the same. For better or worse.

I'd be happy to have one of the more knowledgeable WRXers debate Rickie. It wouldn't be a fair fight, but what can ya do?

[augustgolf]

a) wrong

b) kinda wrong

c) really wrong

d) Fubar wrong

 

I'll take "d", alex, for $500, please

What was the question? :)

 

It was a post with so many quotes that I couldn't repost it with all the quotes, and didn't think to cut/paste as an edit before I posted.

 

Then - they deleted their post

 

I hate it when that happens

[Sawgrass]

 

Maybe we need Rickie and Mr. Summers in an old-fashioned debate, broadcast live. I bet THAT would get a few viewers.

 

Love it! Pay-per-view, haha! To your previous point, however, Rickie debating a potato about the rules would get significantly more views than Mr. Summers doing the same. For better or worse.

Ricky would lose to the potato.

[Ashley Schaeffer]

Maybe we need Rickie and Mr. Summers in an old-fashioned debate, broadcast live. I bet THAT would get a few viewers.

 

Love it! Pay-per-view, haha! To your previous point, however, Rickie debating a potato about the rules would get significantly more views than Mr. Summers doing the same. For better or worse.

Ricky would lose to the potato.

 

To us. But to the rest? Therein lies the point.

[Ashley Schaeffer]

a) wrong

b) kinda wrong

c) really wrong

d) Fubar wrong

 

I'll take "d", alex, for $500, please

What was the question? :)

 

It was a post with so many quotes that I couldn't repost it with all the quotes, and didn't think to cut/paste as an edit before I posted.

 

Then - they deleted their post

 

I hate it when that happens

 

It's there. http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1748228-fowler-improper-drop/page__st__330?do=findComment&comment=18728022

[serpriv]

Just what professional golf needs: More rules, and more confusion

[Vindog]

Just what professional golf needs: More rules, and more confusion

 

Actually I think there are less rules now. Plus, nobody out there has more ability, necessity and resources available to them than the professional golfer. So why feel bad for them? This is their job.

[nsxguy]

Just what professional golf needs: More rules, and more confusion

 

Actually I think there are less rules now. Plus, nobody out there has more ability, necessity and resources available to them than the professional golfer. So why feel bad for them? This is their job.

 

Please don't confuse people with facts !!!

 

Thank you for your cooperation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :hi:

[GeorgeHWB]

Rickie is my hero.

 

From now on I'm going drop the Rickie way when I need to take "relief." I'll think of Mike Davis every time I do it too.

[BB28403]

He putts like a genius too. I mean they stop rolling and just dead fall in the cup. Amazing, never seen putting like this.

[Shilgy]

Rickie is my hero.

 

From now on I'm going drop the Rickie way when I need to take "relief." I'll think of Mike Davis every time I do it too.

[Swisstrader98]

What is wrong with you people who think this is difficult? I play with a bunch of old guys and none of us are having a problem with this. If you are coordinated to tee up your damn ball, then you have to make a deliberate effort to make a drop from knee height difficult.

 

As DaveP says, it takes all of 2 seconds to bend slightly and drop the ball. Or just do it like the girl in the picture above.

 

I played with an older guy in the Bahamas just recently. He had one of those little suction cups on the end of his putter so he wouldn’t have to bend down each time. And then guess what, had to take a drop after hitting it in one of the many lakes at Bahama Mar and he simply takes a ball and sticks it in the same putter suction cup and drops at knee height!

 

I got a big kick out of it but the guy said he had some old football injuries that won’t allow him to bend more than a cpl inches. Unsure if it’s legal but I would think a drop is a drop.

[Shilgy]

What is wrong with you people who think this is difficult? I play with a bunch of old guys and none of us are having a problem with this. If you are coordinated to tee up your damn ball, then you have to make a deliberate effort to make a drop from knee height difficult.

 

As DaveP says, it takes all of 2 seconds to bend slightly and drop the ball. Or just do it like the girl in the picture above.

 

I played with an older guy in the Bahamas just recently. He had one of those little suction cups on the end of his putter so he wouldn’t have to bend down each time. And then guess what, had to take a drop after hitting it in one of the many lakes at Bahama Mar and he simply takes a ball and sticks it in the same putter suction cup and drops at knee height!

 

I got a big kick out of it but the guy said he had some old football injuries that won’t allow him to bend more than a cpl inches. Unsure if it’s legal but I would think a drop is a drop.

How does he tee it up with the suction cup?

[Swisstrader98]

What is wrong with you people who think this is difficult? I play with a bunch of old guys and none of us are having a problem with this. If you are coordinated to tee up your damn ball, then you have to make a deliberate effort to make a drop from knee height difficult.

 

As DaveP says, it takes all of 2 seconds to bend slightly and drop the ball. Or just do it like the girl in the picture above.

 

I played with an older guy in the Bahamas just recently. He had one of those little suction cups on the end of his putter so he wouldn’t have to bend down each time. And then guess what, had to take a drop after hitting it in one of the many lakes at Bahama Mar and he simply takes a ball and sticks it in the same putter suction cup and drops at knee height!

 

I got a big kick out of it but the guy said he had some old football injuries that won’t allow him to bend more than a cpl inches. Unsure if it’s legal but I would think a drop is a drop.

How does he tee it up with the suction cup?

 

His well trained wife?

[Lancj1]

Between this and the Waste Management situation where he decided to drop and place on a severe slope instead of simply replaying his last shot, it seems like Rickie enters this tunnel vision where he doesn't think before he acts. This would be understandable if it was January, he's played multiple events under the new Rules.

 

Good point. That’s why he’s a perpetual loser despite being a great guy. Between the ears.

[Vindog]

Between this and the Waste Management situation where he decided to drop and place on a severe slope instead of simply replaying his last shot, it seems like Rickie enters this tunnel vision where he doesn't think before he acts. This would be understandable if it was January, he's played multiple events under the new Rules.

 

Good point. That’s why he’s a perpetual loser despite being a great guy. Between the ears.

 

Aren't most players losers? I mean, they all lose more than they win.

[davep043]

What is wrong with you people who think this is difficult? I play with a bunch of old guys and none of us are having a problem with this. If you are coordinated to tee up your damn ball, then you have to make a deliberate effort to make a drop from knee height difficult.

 

As DaveP says, it takes all of 2 seconds to bend slightly and drop the ball. Or just do it like the girl in the picture above.

 

I played with an older guy in the Bahamas just recently. He had one of those little suction cups on the end of his putter so he wouldn't have to bend down each time. And then guess what, had to take a drop after hitting it in one of the many lakes at Bahama Mar and he simply takes a ball and sticks it in the same putter suction cup and drops at knee height!

 

I got a big kick out of it but the guy said he had some old football injuries that won't allow him to bend more than a cpl inches. Unsure if it's legal but I would think a drop is a drop.

I don't read anything in the rules that would make this illegal, as long as the ball drops straight down, with little to no spin or horizontal motion. Hot did he get it to leave the suction cup, maybe a little tap with a club?

[Swisstrader98]

What is wrong with you people who think this is difficult? I play with a bunch of old guys and none of us are having a problem with this. If you are coordinated to tee up your damn ball, then you have to make a deliberate effort to make a drop from knee height difficult.

 

As DaveP says, it takes all of 2 seconds to bend slightly and drop the ball. Or just do it like the girl in the picture above.

 

I played with an older guy in the Bahamas just recently. He had one of those little suction cups on the end of his putter so he wouldn't have to bend down each time. And then guess what, had to take a drop after hitting it in one of the many lakes at Bahama Mar and he simply takes a ball and sticks it in the same putter suction cup and drops at knee height!

 

I got a big kick out of it but the guy said he had some old football injuries that won't allow him to bend more than a cpl inches. Unsure if it's legal but I would think a drop is a drop.

I don't read anything in the rules that would make this illegal, as long as the ball drops straight down, with little to no spin or horizontal motion. Hot did he get it to leave the suction cup, maybe a little tap with a club?

 

Yes. His little routine was to mash the suction cup in the grass so would create some moisture on the suction cup, put ball into suction cup, hold at knee height and then pop the handle a couple times to get the ball to drop. Worked like a charm.

 

Definitely one guy who has warmed up to the new rules in his own special way?

[davep043]

What is wrong with you people who think this is difficult? I play with a bunch of old guys and none of us are having a problem with this. If you are coordinated to tee up your damn ball, then you have to make a deliberate effort to make a drop from knee height difficult.

 

As DaveP says, it takes all of 2 seconds to bend slightly and drop the ball. Or just do it like the girl in the picture above.

 

I played with an older guy in the Bahamas just recently. He had one of those little suction cups on the end of his putter so he wouldn't have to bend down each time. And then guess what, had to take a drop after hitting it in one of the many lakes at Bahama Mar and he simply takes a ball and sticks it in the same putter suction cup and drops at knee height!

 

I got a big kick out of it but the guy said he had some old football injuries that won't allow him to bend more than a cpl inches. Unsure if it's legal but I would think a drop is a drop.

I don't read anything in the rules that would make this illegal, as long as the ball drops straight down, with little to no spin or horizontal motion. Hot did he get it to leave the suction cup, maybe a little tap with a club?

 

Yes. His little routine was to mash the suction cup in the grass so would create some moisture on the suction cup, put ball into suction cup, hold at knee height and then pop the handle a couple times to get the ball to drop. Worked like a charm.

 

Definitely one guy who has warmed up to the new rules in his own special way

Good to hear that people are finding ways to adapt. I'm still reasonably spry at 63, but I know that might not last forever.

[QuigleyDU]

i just think they need to change the wording of the rule to a drop must happen from a minimum of knee height. Then you can drop it from anywhere as long as it is above your knee. If you want to hold it above your head, ok. waist high, ok. right at your knee, ok. That seems like the easy answer to all this, um confusion...

[Sawgrass]

i just think they need to change the wording of the rule to a drop must happen from a minimum of knee height. Then you can drop it from anywhere as long as it is above your knee. If you want to hold it above your head, ok. waist high, ok. right at your knee, ok. That seems like the easy answer to all this, um confusion...

IMO it's "frustration" rather than "confusion." If you want to see confusion, change it again.

[QuigleyDU]

i just think they need to change the wording of the rule to a drop must happen from a minimum of knee height. Then you can drop it from anywhere as long as it is above your knee. If you want to hold it above your head, ok. waist high, ok. right at your knee, ok. That seems like the easy answer to all this, um confusion...

IMO it's "frustration" rather than "confusion." If you want to see confusion, change it again.

 

true, frustration is a better word. I think what i present is the simple solution. Basically just drop the ball from a min height and move on.

[HitEmTrue]

i just think they need to change the wording of the rule to a drop must happen from a minimum of knee height. Then you can drop it from anywhere as long as it is above your knee. If you want to hold it above your head, ok. waist high, ok. right at your knee, ok. That seems like the easy answer to all this, um confusion...

IMO it's "frustration" rather than "confusion." If you want to see confusion, change it again.

 

true, frustration is a better word. I think what i present is the simple solution. Basically just drop the ball from a min height and move on.

 

That would completely defeat the point of the new rule.

 

[davep043]

i just think they need to change the wording of the rule to a drop must happen from a minimum of knee height. Then you can drop it from anywhere as long as it is above your knee. If you want to hold it above your head, ok. waist high, ok. right at your knee, ok. That seems like the easy answer to all this, um confusion...

IMO it's "frustration" rather than "confusion." If you want to see confusion, change it again.

 

true, frustration is a better word. I think what i present is the simple solution. Basically just drop the ball from a min height and move on.

Please read Item 17 here:

http://www.usga.org/content/dam/usga/images/rules/rules-modernization/golf-new-rules/Explanation%20for%20Each%20Major%20Change%20in%20the%20New%20Rules%20of%20Golf%20for%202019%20(1).pdf

What you describe does not achieve the stated goals of the Ruling Bodies. If they didn't care about decreasing the roll-out, they wouldn't have needed to change the drop procedure. And really, dropping from a range of heights is actually MORE complicated than dropping from a specific height. We had to drop from a specific height a year ago, the only thing that changed was the body part.

[QuigleyDU]

i just think they need to change the wording of the rule to a drop must happen from a minimum of knee height. Then you can drop it from anywhere as long as it is above your knee. If you want to hold it above your head, ok. waist high, ok. right at your knee, ok. That seems like the easy answer to all this, um confusion...

IMO it's "frustration" rather than "confusion." If you want to see confusion, change it again.

 

true, frustration is a better word. I think what i present is the simple solution. Basically just drop the ball from a min height and move on.

Please read Item 17 here:

http://www.usga.org/...olf for 2019 (1).pdf

What you describe does not achieve the stated goals of the Ruling Bodies. If they didn't care about decreasing the roll-out, they wouldn't have needed to change the drop procedure. And really, dropping from a range of heights is actually MORE complicated than dropping from a specific height. We had to drop from a specific height a year ago, the only thing that changed was the body part.

 

 

I agree on the last part. I am not sure how dropping at any height is more complicated. You just drop the ball. seems pretty simple. But yes, if they are more concerned that the ball may move 4 inches after dropped instead of 2. than i cant help them....

[davep043]

i just think they need to change the wording of the rule to a drop must happen from a minimum of knee height. Then you can drop it from anywhere as long as it is above your knee. If you want to hold it above your head, ok. waist high, ok. right at your knee, ok. That seems like the easy answer to all this, um confusion...

IMO it's "frustration" rather than "confusion." If you want to see confusion, change it again.

 

true, frustration is a better word. I think what i present is the simple solution. Basically just drop the ball from a min height and move on.

Please read Item 17 here:

http://www.usga.org/...olf for 2019 (1).pdf

What you describe does not achieve the stated goals of the Ruling Bodies. If they didn't care about decreasing the roll-out, they wouldn't have needed to change the drop procedure. And really, dropping from a range of heights is actually MORE complicated than dropping from a specific height. We had to drop from a specific height a year ago, the only thing that changed was the body part.

 

 

I agree on the last part. I am not sure how dropping at any height is more complicated. You just drop the ball. seems pretty simple. But yes, if they are more concerned that the ball may move 4 inches after dropped instead of 2. than i cant help them....

I'd say having a choice is more complicated than have no choice.

And for the last bit, did you see Vijay dropping at 17 yesterday? His knee-high drop, on a steep bank in the rough, went 3 or 4 inches. From shoulder high, I believe it would have been back in the water, twice, and he would have been able to place it. THAT is what they are trying to minimize. And at least that once, it worked.