St. George, Utah Trip

[zer0]

> @podunker said:

> My Wife and I just got back from our 30th Anniversary trip to St. George. What an awesome area. We spent a week at Entrada and played five rounds of golf. We spent a day at Zion National Park also. I can't speak highly enough of the area and people. Everyone was so nice. We played The Ledges with WRX member RSinSG, it was a very nice course and it was great to meet Ron. We played Entrada the next day, highly recommend, but I think you have to be staying there to play the course. We also spent some time at the range at Entrada through the week. We splurged and stayed in a Casita, and it was an awesome place to stay. Even played a little Pickle ball. We went to Zion the first evening and drove through the tunnel and hiked the Overlook Trail. Then we spent most of another day at Zion and hiked Angels Landing. It was awesome and scary at the same time. We took a day off after that to recover from Angels Landing. The next day we headed down to Mesquite, NV and played Wolf Creek and Conestoga. Wolf Creek was a neat experience and would recommend playing at least once. Too expensive to play more than that. We were not too impressed Conestoga, too many blind tee shots and just not as nice as the other courses. The last course we played was Sand Hollow and it was super nice also. Sand Hollow State Park looked like a lot of fun, for ATV/UTV riding also. We wanted to play Sky Mountain, but couldn't fit it in. Ron (RSinSG) gave us lots of tips on eating places and things to do while we were there, he was a wealth of great information, and a super nice guy. The whole area is clean with lots of new construction going on. The roads were excellent and seemed to handle the traffic well. We liked the town of Hurricane well also, its out by Sand Hollow on the way to Zion. We will definitely be going back to the area. The weather was great the whole time, I think it can get windy, but it wasn't while we were there. Next time we will skip Mesquite and just play the rest of the courses around St. George. If I had to rate the course, I would pick : 1. Entrada 2. Sand Hollow 3. The Ledges 4. Wolf Creek and a distant 5. Conestoga. Food wise, you have to hit up Bella Marie's Pizza, Anasazi Steak House, and Anglica's Mex Grill. A person could spend a week just in Zion National Park if he wanted.

 

If you don't mind me asking, how much did it cost to stay at Entrada? And then how much are the green fees at Entrada?

 

 

[I_HATE_SNOW]

> @zer0 said:

> Thinking about heading to SG in the fall, but don't want to go when the courses are being overseeded etc. Does anyone know when it will be safe to go and not worry abou that stuff?

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Only a few courses overseed in St. George, Sunbrook used to might be another one or two. Sand Hollow, Entrada, Ledges and Sky Mountain, among others don't.

 

Last couple of years we have fall golfed the West Slope. Love Redlands Mesa, enjoy Devil's Thumb and had a great time at Iron Bridge.

[Sjewell94]

Played Sand Hollow on the 4th of July while in town. Unlike any course I have ever played. Unreal views and was pleasantly surprised by the conditions, it was pristine and the rate was only $60. Would highly recommend for anyone in the area.

[RSinSG]

> @zer0 said:

> Thinking about heading to SG in the fall, but don't want to go when the courses are being overseeded etc. Does anyone know when it will be safe to go and not worry abou that stuff?

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All of the city courses will be done by Sept. Not sure about the other courses except the Ledges where I work and they don't overseed. Hit me up if you want to play there as I can get you on for cart fee only mid-week.

 

Southgate Golf Club

Aeration: Front 9, Sept. 3, 2019

Back 9, Sept. 4, 2019

Overseed: Sept. 18-27, 2019

 

Sunbrook Golf Club

Aeration: Woodbridge, Sept. 3, 2019

Black Rock, Sept. 4, 2019

The Pointe, Sept. 5, 2019

Overseed: Sept. 11-19, 2019

 

St. George Golf Club

Aeration: Front 9, Sept. 4, 2019

Back 9, Sept. 5, 2019

Overseed: Sept. 19-27, 2019

 

Dixie Red Hills

Aeration: Sept. 3, 2019

Overseed: Sept. 9-19, 2019

[Dsevans8]

@RSinSG Planning a buddies trip down there for 10-12 guys second weekend in October... Looking to play 36 Th-Sat... What would be your recommendation? I am a member of a private course as are a few of the other guys. Not sure if that connection might be used to get us on somewhere. We will have half our guys coming from Sacramento and the other half from SLC and I think we will be staying in Hurricane. Thanks

[I_HATE_SNOW]

We might be headed to St. George the end of Sept. first of Oct. Sand Hollow for sure, maybe Ledges but it is overpriced, kind of want to see the changes they made to the last par 5, #16 IIRC.

[Lefty_3Jack]

> @RSinSG said:

> > @zer0 said:

> > Thinking about heading to SG in the fall, but don't want to go when the courses are being overseeded etc. Does anyone know when it will be safe to go and not worry abou that stuff?

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> All of the city courses will be done by Sept. Not sure about the other courses except the Ledges where I work and they don't overseed. Hit me up if you want to play there as I can get you on for cart fee only mid-week.

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> Southgate Golf Club

> Aeration: Front 9, Sept. 3, 2019

> Back 9, Sept. 4, 2019

> Overseed: Sept. 18-27, 2019

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> Sunbrook Golf Club

> Aeration: Woodbridge, Sept. 3, 2019

> Black Rock, Sept. 4, 2019

> The Pointe, Sept. 5, 2019

> Overseed: Sept. 11-19, 2019

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> St. George Golf Club

> Aeration: Front 9, Sept. 4, 2019

> Back 9, Sept. 5, 2019

> Overseed: Sept. 19-27, 2019

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> Dixie Red Hills

> Aeration: Sept. 3, 2019

> Overseed: Sept. 9-19, 2019

 

Looks wonderful since I'll be there the 19-23rd.... My choices will be limited it looks like.

[Lefty_3Jack]

Anyone know when Wolf Creek overseeds? I was getting ready to book it for the 21st and there are a lot of times open.

[I_HATE_SNOW]

> @"Lefty Light HItter" said:

> Anyone know when Wolf Creek overseeds? I was getting ready to book it for the 21st and there are a lot of times open.

 

Used to, September several years ago I played it, overseeded with slow greens. Was also cart path only and 106°, did not enjoy the round. Call them 866 252 4653

[Dsevans8]

Anyone have any information on Coral Canyon? Looking to play the 2nd week of October and I know they have had course condition issues. Thanks.

[Young Tommy]

My wife and I are thinking of st. George for a golf vacation in June. We are looking at staying in a VRA a VRBO. It looks like most of the condos available are in two developments- Sports Village and Las Palmas. Does anyone have any knowledge of either place? What is better? Thanks.

[darpar1]

Coral is a dog track,basically they've been tearing it up since Beddo took over....no signs of getting any better any time soon....better value is Greenspring or Skymountain

[darpar1]

A new Marriott just opened right next to the 12th hole @ Greenspring GC

[bradski]

I talked to someone at Coral recently and they seemed to hint that the money they had committed to redoing the course isn't coming in like they expected. I think they could lose a ton of business if the new course Copper rock might take over as #1 or 2 in ST George area.

[I_HATE_SNOW]

Thanks for the info on Copper Rock! Hope to check it out this fall, opens 2-23-2020, according to tee times.

[badjerk]

Where do you see the opening date? Was trying to find it on their website. Thanks

[I_HATE_SNOW]

Just started checking for available tee times. Now the 24th is the first day to show any.

[badjerk]

Ok thanks. It looks like they have two different websites now that i did some digging. Only one of them is showing the tee times. Appreciate the reply.

[I_HATE_SNOW]

Give a course review when you can!

[darpar1]

Played Copper Rock 3 weeks ago,AWESOME track!Fastest greens around and every hole is pretty unique,with plenty of elevation changes on the back nine.A pretty cool waterfall feature was being built on hole #12..................... A LOT of construction going on in the area and the new clubhouse should be finished in the next month or two.Just got the carts in the day we played,so the GPS should be up and running by now.

I predict CR will be the best golf course in So.Utah within a couple of years when the rock hard green settle down......Hopefully they can stay in business and don't wind up like Kokopelli did!

[I_HATE_SNOW]

Only played Kokopelli once. Really wanted another crack at it as I found all the hazards the first time.

[bradski]

My only struggle with saying it will be the best is the fact that it is only 6800 yards. I hear amazing things and am excited to play it. In todays golf world you need a number from the tips in the 7k's especially at altitude like St. George.

[vallygolf]

I get the sentiment, but completely disagree. In fact I think as courses stretch to start with 8's we are alienating most of golf. Golf has been a robust sport for hundreds of years, governing bodies are seeing the equipment/ball increases leaving too many courses behind and in fact will most likely IMO act to make 6800 a number that seems just about right.

[bradski]

While I get that most golfers shouldn't play at the back. Not having that option will hurt the course and it's legitimacy. Just expect that it won't be able to host any male competitions at a high level.

 

 

 

 

[darpar1]

I think once you play Copper Rock and see how tricky and fast the green configurations are,6800 yds from the tips will be all the challenge anybody would want.

[vallygolf]

YES. How golf should defend itself vs more length.

[bradski]

Pebble showed it. Fast greens are only fast until weather doesn't allow. you need tighter landing area's and misses to be a penalty.

 

Again, I think for 95% of golfers this isn't an issue and this is going to be a great benefit to the area for golf.

 

I will say for every new top course built in the last 15 years that is under 7k yards you can name, I can name 10 that are over 7k.

 

[vallygolf]

Pebbles defense are small greens, not necessarily the most undulating. The pro-am mandates that they keep it very playable with the rough and green speeds. I would argue Pebble is a perfect example of what works. Look at the US open. Final scores: half of the field was over par, half of the field was under par, winner at -13. Most scratch amatures in those conditions would shoot in the 90's. Added length will not improve this game. The fact that people are building longer courses is not a justification it is a problem.

[I_HATE_SNOW]

I'd never attempt to play a course at 7000. Can't imagine that it would be any fun.

[bradski]

depends on your game. I like when you have par 4's that you have to hit a long iron into or there is more risk on shorter holes. I would be totally fine playing at 6800 yards and am ok if playing 6500 or more usually. I have at time had regular groups that are much better than me and they are playing longer courses because that is what they play for competition.