Time capsule....NOS Sexiness

[justasgood]

Posted in JDM but thought I’d share with my purists brethren here.

 

 

[mocokid]

OMG, I'm cre@ming in my knickers.

[wkuo3]

Love it !

Are you planning on gaming it ?

[justasgood]

Not sure if I can bring myself to play them....I am literally sitting in my garage staring at their stunning beauty. A tad bigger than my Muirfield 20th and a nice tall square toe. Simply gorgeous...

[deejaid]

Absolutely gorgeous. It would be hard to bring myself to play those but I’d have to think of it as just a new set of irons that have been waiting for me to discover. As beautiful as they are without swinging them and feeling a pure strike you are really only getting to enjoy half of their beauty.

[3puttsRLife]

Man those are gorgeous! I've been looking to add a set of advisors to my collection.

[justasgood]

> @3puttsRLife said:

> Man those are gorgeous! I've been looking to add a set of advisors to my collection.

 

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[deejaid]

Any idea what year these are from @justasgood?

 

The diamonds framing the scoring lines on the face is a nice touch ala Macgregor while the muscle pad on the back reminds me of the Hogan Medallion irons. Very nice set.

[justasgood]

> @deejaid said:

> Any idea what year these are from @justasgood?

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> The diamonds framing the scoring lines on the face is a nice touch ala Macgregor while the muscle pad on the back reminds me of the Hogan Medallion irons. Very nice set.

 

Not sure but possibly 80’s?

 

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

> @deejaid said:

> Absolutely gorgeous. It would be hard to bring myself to play those but I’d have to think of it as just a new set of irons that have been waiting for me to discover. **As beautiful as they are without swinging them and feeling a pure strike you are really only getting to enjoy half of their beauty.**

 

That's a good way of putting it.

[deejaid]

> @justasgood said:

> > @deejaid said:

> > Any idea what year these are from @justasgood?

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> > The diamonds framing the scoring lines on the face is a nice touch ala Macgregor while the muscle pad on the back reminds me of the Hogan Medallion irons. Very nice set.

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> Not sure but possibly 80’s?

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Yeah, I’d think so. Maybe even late 80’s.

 

I keep looking at the pictures and drooling though. If I had those in front of me, unless I planned on selling them I’d be hitting those things. Stunning shape to them.

 

[3puttsRLife]

I believe these where in the 1986 to 1988 range but don't quote me on that.

[aenemated]

Dang, those are gorgeous.

[BIG STU]

I am with DJ on that one. It would be hard to hit them for me--- Also what is lurking under the Miura iron covers? yeah I spotted them

[justasgood]

> @"BIG STU" said:

> I am with DJ on that one. It would be hard to hit them for me--- Also what is lurking under the Miura iron covers? yeah I spotted them

 

BIG STU, good eye. Those are actually on their way up to WI. Limited edition black Miura CB 1008 with $-Taper 125 S shafts. 4-PW with Miura forged wedges 51*, 55* & 59*

 

Bought em to sell em......

 

still don't know about hitting the Diawa irons though.....

[84425]

> @justasgood said:

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> Not sure but possibly 80’s?

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I always thought the first two numbers of the model correspnded with the year of introduction: DG8401 would be David Graham 1984. There is also a DG8402, DG8201, DG8601 an dthe DG201.

[justasgood]

I compared them to my Miura Baby Blades and they are about the same

[bigdane]

> @justasgood said:

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Beautiful irons - I hope you'll play them, they deserve it!

[rex235]

Daiwa hired David Graham away from MacGregor to design their new iron models.

Great pickup! Don't blink, or you'll be saying what might have been...

[OldTom]

Apparently David Graham was a real club tinkerer and had a great feel and knowledge about club design. He was said to help fellow pro's by adjusting their lofts and lies in hotel door jams when they came to him for advice.

 

I have a set of Daiwa Advisor DG273 irons 1-SW .(I did some research on them when I bought them). Ian Baker-Finch used a set of DG273 irons to win the 1991 British Open. The irons are so-named because they were designed by fellow Aussie David Graham and 273 was the score David shot to win the 1981 US Open.

The irons were some of the first to be investment cast, not forged. Apparently they made a forged set and a cast set and tested them with a bunch of pro's. When the pro's couldn't tell the difference (so they say) Daiwa went ahead and produced the "cheaper to manufacture" cast version.

 

The early DG273's had the inscription "Designed by David Graham" on the back. My set didn't. I work at an airport and bumped into David Graham one day. I asked him why some sets don't have the inscription on the back. His reply in a hybrid Aussie /USA drawl " Cause they stopped paying me."

 

[justasgood]

> @OldTom said:

> Apparently David Graham was a real club tinkerer and had a great feel and knowledge about club design. He was said to help fellow pro's by adjusting their lofts and lies in hotel door jams when they came to him for advice.

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> I have a set of Daiwa Advisor DG273 irons 1-SW .(I did some research on them when I bought them). Ian Baker-Finch used a set of DG273 irons to win the 1991 British Open. The irons are so-named because they were designed by fellow Aussie David Graham and 273 was the score David shot to win the 1981 US Open.

> The irons were some of the first to be investment cast, not forged. Apparently they made a forged set and a cast set and tested them with a bunch of pro's. When the pro's couldn't tell the difference (so they say) Daiwa went ahead and produced the "cheaper to manufacture" cast version.

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> The early DG273's had the inscription "Designed by David Graham" on the back. My set didn't. I work at an airport and bumped into David Graham one day. I asked him why some sets don't have the inscription on the back. His reply in a hybrid Aussie /USA drawl " Cause they stopped paying me."

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Olde Tom,

 

Are you saying these are cast?

[OldTom]

> @justasgood said:

 

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> Are you saying these are cast?

 

The DG273's definitely are. I don't know about the DG8401.

[justasgood]

> @OldTom said:

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> The DG273's definitely are. I don't know about the DG8401.

 

Thanks, I guess it won't matter as I can't bring myself to hit them.

 

Maybe the next owner will know how they play......

[Shallowface]

> @OldTom said:

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> The DG273's definitely are. I don't know about the DG8401.

 

The Daiwa catalogs I have say the DG273s are forged.

[Shallowface]

> @OldTom said:

> Apparently David Graham was a real club tinkerer and had a great feel and knowledge about club design. He was said to help fellow pro's by adjusting their lofts and lies in hotel door jams when they came to him for advice.

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> I have a set of Daiwa Advisor DG273 irons 1-SW .(I did some research on them when I bought them). Ian Baker-Finch used a set of DG273 irons to win the 1991 British Open. The irons are so-named because they were designed by fellow Aussie David Graham and 273 was the score David shot to win the 1981 US Open.

> The irons were some of the first to be investment cast, not forged. Apparently they made a forged set and a cast set and tested them with a bunch of pro's. When the pro's couldn't tell the difference (so they say) Daiwa went ahead and produced the "cheaper to manufacture" cast version.

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> The early DG273's had the inscription "Designed by David Graham" on the back. My set didn't. I work at an airport and bumped into David Graham one day. I asked him why some sets don't have the inscription on the back. His reply in a hybrid Aussie /USA drawl " Cause they stopped paying me."

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Investment cast irons first appeared in the 1960s, so something from 1991 wouldn't be among "some of the first to be investment cast."

 

[OldTom]

Always happy to be corrected Shallow.

The attached add says " Classic muscle-back forging design, first to be investment cast in carbon steel." I take it they didn't cast carbon steel in the 1960's.

 

 

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[No_Catchy_Nickname]

> @OldTom said:

> Always happy to be corrected Shallow.

> The attached add says " Classic muscle-back forging design, first to be investment cast in carbon steel." I take it they didn't cast carbon steel in the 1960's.

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Got the rest of that article? I want to find out why O'Malley lost a sponsor after winning the Scottish Open!

[Shallowface]

Well now I'm confused. My 1990 and 1991 catalogs say they were forged, but the ad above clearly says they were cast of carbon steel. Perhaps they changed methods in the middle of the run. I don't have a 1992 catalog and by 1993 they were gone.

They still weren't the first iron set cast in carbon steel. Ralph Maltby was doing that in the early 1980s, and I don't know that they were the first to do it. I remember Browning 440 ads from the 70s saying they could have cast their irons in carbon steel if there were any advantage to do it, and they believed there wasn't one.

[justasgood]

It is so frustrating not being able to find any info on these. I really do appreciate all of the input so far.

[Shallowface]

From the 1987 catalog.