** OFFICIAL REVIEW: MITSUBISHI MMT Iron Shafts ***** FINAL REVIEW Post #2 is UP

[Fairways_and_Greens]

What are you guys doing with these shafts for wedges? Anything different from the irons?

[dodgyman]

2 hours ago, Fairways_and_Greens said:

What are you guys doing with these shafts for wedges? Anything different from the irons?

I put in wedge shafts with the same profile 105s and they’re just fine. I was contemplating changing the profile but I like it as is.

[nitram]

8-iron shafts in the wedges.

[jmurdock81]

Anyone have high spin issues with these shafts?  I put in the 105 S and spin seems to be all over the place.  Sometimes I will hit a iron and it will come up 10 yards short of my regular distance and other times it will fly as it should.  I can't seem to get consistent yardages with these.

[Deuce78]

No issues here.  Spin is right on par with many steel shafts and even spins less than many steel profiles but I was in the 125tx...

 

If anyone is wanting a 125tx 7 iron shoot me a DM.  Thx.

[J13]

11 hours ago, jmurdock81 said:

Anyone have high spin issues with these shafts?  I put in the 105 S and spin seems to be all over the place.  Sometimes I will hit a iron and it will come up 10 yards short of my regular distance and other times it will fly as it should.  I can't seem to get consistent yardages with these.

 

Could be a lot of things.  But the most common problem could be the swing weight is off or you don't fit into the 105S and need something either heavier or stiffer.  Hard to say exactly without knowing all the details and specs.  

[GolfNPizza2]

How is the launch and spin on the 105 TX compared to the modus 105x and modus 120x?

[jjmurry]

Anyone playing the 125 S hard stepped? I'm coming from Oban 125X's and am looking for something a little easier to swing and am hoping that the 125 S hard stepped might be the winner. 

 

As far as the bend profile, I've played Modus 120X (not TX) before and liked them, but just want a little less spin. Driver swing speed ~110-112mph for reference. 

 

Should I just go 125 TX and call it a day 🙂

[Avidswampthing66]

Any reviews from 100 SS players reviews of MMT 95s or the like?  Currently in Modus 105S.  Plenty of feedback of the 125TX  etc, but we all know thats a different animal haha

[AtlantaGolf3]

Spoiler

In between fitters and info. Currently play DG120 x100s. 1/2” over. Looking for a little tighter dispersion and a slightly heavier shaft.  Like most of you, I have not been able to find a place to hit the MMTs.  

 

I’ve paid for fittings at PGATSS and CC (CC was kind of disappointing). 

At PGATSS I started my fit with the optimizer. Mizuno’s shaft optimizer had me at 93-94mph SS.  It recommended $Taper 130s, CTaper X, Tour 130X, TI x100s, LZ 6.5  

 

In those shafts my swing performed best with 100s and LZ 6.5.  It was splitting hairs between those two. 
$Tapers felt the best, but I couldn’t time them as well. Maybe they a softer tip?  I’m not sure. 
 

My real work 7 iron ss is prob 90-92. 178carry. Can take a little off for 170s. I’m 6’3. 185. Will be going prob 1/2” - 3/4” over. Not sure yet. I’m used to 1/2. PGTSS guy had me at 1”. 
 

Any recommendations? 125s / 125TX SSx1 / 125 TX Straight?

 

Will be throwing in ZX7s. 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 13, 2021 by AtlantaGolf3
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[AtlantaGolf3]

In between fitters and info. Currently play DG120 x100s. 1/2” over. Looking for a little tighter dispersion and a slightly heavier shaft.  Like most of you, I have not been able to find a place to hit the MMTs.  

 

I’ve paid for fittings at PGATSS and CC (CC was kind of disappointing). 

At PGATSS I started my fit with the optimizer. Mizuno’s shaft optimizer had me at 93-94mph SS.  It recommended $Taper 130s, CTaper X, Tour 130X, TI x100s, LZ 6.5  

 

In those shafts my swing performed best with 100s and LZ 6.5.  It was splitting hairs between those two. 
$Tapers felt the best, but I couldn’t time them as well. Maybe they a softer tip?  I’m not sure. 
 

My real work 7 iron ss is prob 90-92. 178carry. Can take a little off for 170s. I’m 6’3. 185. Will be going prob 1/2” - 3/4” over. Not sure yet. I’m used to 1/2. PGTSS guy had me at 1”. 
 

Any recommendations? 125s / 125TX SSx1 / 125 TX Straight?

 

Will he throwing in ZX7s. 

 

[JamesG12]

Anyone using MMT 105s, what wedge shaft are you using (something other than MMT is what I’m looking for). Thanks!

[J13]

This is pretty amazing 

 

 

[ProjectX_Mizuno]

Trying to think of who all that would be... Fowler, S. Brown, Ancer, Kisner, and who else????

[AtlantaGolf3]

44 minutes ago, ProjectX_Mizuno said:

Trying to think of who all that would be... Fowler, S. Brown, Ancer, Kisner, and who else????

CH3

[AtlantaGolf3]

 

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In between fitters and info. Currently play DG120 x100s. 1/2” over. Looking for a little tighter dispersion and a slightly heavier shaft.  Like most of you, I have not been able to find a place to hit the MMTs.  

 

I’ve paid for fittings at PGATSS and CC (CC was kind of disappointing). 

At PGATSS I started my fit with the optimizer. Mizuno’s shaft optimizer had me at 93-94mph SS.  It recommended $Taper 130s, CTaper X, Tour 130X, TI x100s, LZ 6.5  

 

In those shafts my swing performed best with 100s and LZ 6.5.  It was splitting hairs between those two. 
$Tapers felt the best, but I couldn’t time them as well. Maybe they a softer tip?  I’m not sure. 
 

My real work 7 iron ss is prob 90-92. 178carry. Can take a little off for 170s. I’m 6’3. 185. Will be going prob 1/2” - 3/4” over. Not sure yet. I’m used to 1/2. PGTSS guy had me at 1”. 

I have pretty quick transition, but not erratic. 
 

Any recommendations? 125s / 125TX SSx1 / 125 TX Straight?

 

Will be throwing in ZX7s. 

[AtlantaGolf3]

On 10/10/2020 at 4:20 AM, MizunoMade said:

Put a order in yesterday. Miura tc-210/Mc-501 combo with mmt 125tx soft stepped and bbf and co ferrules 😍

Where did you go through for build?

[MizunoMade]

3 hours ago, AtlantaGolf3 said:

Where did you go through for build?

RocGolf in Northern Ireland. 

[jonteistockholm]

On 3/13/2021 at 8:50 PM, JamesG12 said:

Anyone using MMT 105s, what wedge shaft are you using (something other than MMT is what I’m looking for). Thanks!

 

 

I have 105 stiff 3,5-P, 105 S in my 52 and 125 stiff in 57 & 63

 standard Titleist lenght

[JamesG12]

5 minutes ago, jonteistockholm said:

 

 

I have 105 stiff 3,5-P, 105 S in my 52 and 125 stiff in 57 & 63

 standard Titleist lenght

Thanks! Who did the build?

[jonteistockholm]

6 minutes ago, JamesG12 said:

Thanks! Who did the build?

 

Up in the north of Sweden- all done by myself. 

 

[rkelso184]

On 10/24/2019 at 8:35 AM, MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL said:

@Nic1972 Soft-stepping once may help soften the profile slightly.

 

So far, players have been pleasantly surprised with the playability that MMT provides. The torque value is slightly higher than most TX Flexes you will find in steel.

 

105 Stiff is also an option if you are worried about the TX Flex being slightly too stiff!

What would you recommend for someone using Modus 130x currently?

[cmy]

Have the MMT Utility Iron 105TX in my U500 4 iron. Unbelievably awesome to hit. Waiting on my irons with the MMT Taper Irons 125TX. Been a long delay in getting in.

[Deuce78]

21 hours ago, rkelso184 said:

What would you recommend for someone using Modus 130x currently?

125tx.  FYI The 125tx will build a couple points heavier than modus 130x.

 

I just put a 7 iron shaft on the BST if anyone here wants it...thx!

[dmeeksDC]

Was messing around at Golf Galaxy today and hit about 20 balls with an ‘21 Apex Pro with an MMT 95 stiff and I was quite impressed. I know there’s a lot of reviews of the heavier ones and I don’t know if the 95 stiff would or would not be my fit, as that is lighter than I play, but it sure felt great at impact. I definitely sensed a nice solid feel in the tip section through the hitting zone. 
 

My swing was consistently at 87-88 mph with a 7 iron and I was hitting a stock shot that barely falls to the right. Does not feel like a shaft I’d spray at all, even at less than 100g. Accuracy was excellent. Interestingly, I had purchased a single club last year with the parallel tipped MMT 80 in it and did not like it at all. The 95 stiff taper is like a different shaft, clearly has less torque and feels smooth and yet solid. Way better. When I waggled it, it felt super stiff in the handle. I thought I might not like it. Swinging it, I found it very fun, felt like I was ripping through the ball. 
 

 

[nfreda2211]

On 3/13/2021 at 2:50 PM, JamesG12 said:

Anyone using MMT 105s, what wedge shaft are you using (something other than MMT is what I’m looking for). Thanks!

I have the 105s in 5-gw and recoil wedge proto in 55* and 60*. I think I am going to put the recoil in the gw as well as it has more feel 

[driveandputtmachine]

On 3/13/2021 at 7:42 PM, AtlantaGolf3 said:

 

 

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In between fitters and info. Currently play DG120 x100s. 1/2” over. Looking for a little tighter dispersion and a slightly heavier shaft.  Like most of you, I have not been able to find a place to hit the MMTs.  

 

I’ve paid for fittings at PGATSS and CC (CC was kind of disappointing). 

At PGATSS I started my fit with the optimizer. Mizuno’s shaft optimizer had me at 93-94mph SS.  It recommended $Taper 130s, CTaper X, Tour 130X, TI x100s, LZ 6.5  

 

In those shafts my swing performed best with 100s and LZ 6.5.  It was splitting hairs between those two. 
$Tapers felt the best, but I couldn’t time them as well. Maybe they a softer tip?  I’m not sure. 
 

My real work 7 iron ss is prob 90-92. 178carry. Can take a little off for 170s. I’m 6’3. 185. Will be going prob 1/2” - 3/4” over. Not sure yet. I’m used to 1/2. PGTSS guy had me at 1”. 

I have pretty quick transition, but not erratic. 
 

Any recommendations? 125s / 125TX SSx1 / 125 TX Straight?

 

Will be throwing in ZX7s. 

If you find someone in Atlanta let me know.  I got lucky and was fit by Dana Upshaw a couple of times before he retired (Down in Warner Robbins, he was considered by most to be a top 10 fitter in the US before retiring).  So I have a pretty good idea of what fits me and what doesn't to start from a baseline.  I have tried CC, and found no luck.  PGATSS is a waste of time.  There are a couple of good guys in Atlanta, but having access to all the latest and greatest shafts in X flex is the problem I run into there.

 

I did get fitted at the Kingdom at Reynolds.  I checked the Maltby P F to get irons with the closest VCoG and RCoG first and stuck with those heads and tried out shafts on that head.  For me (ZX7 guy as well) I ended up doing most of my testing in the P7MC.  Unfortunately I had to guess a bit since the P7MC nor the ZX7 are measured yet by Maltby for VCoG and RCoG.   I also knew my iron spin would be higher with the P7MC than it is with my ZX7 based on findings from CChampion.

 

I wanted to like the MMT, but they did not perform as well for me as the Recoils.  MY SS with the optimizer was right around 95 or so if I remember correctly, so in the same area as you.  The 105 MMT in TX just didn't jive, spin was good, but I didn't like how I felt with them on the downswing, couldn't quite put my finger on the problem, my strikes just weren't as often in the SS as I would like.  The 125 TX was right on the money for the P7MC's, but the spin was lower than I wanted, knowing with the ZX7 have less spin than the P7MC's.

 

You can try the kingdom at Reynolds similarly, they book up quick for fittings, and I got lucky in that someone cancelled and I got in.

[rnolan79]

On 3/13/2021 at 2:50 PM, JamesG12 said:

Anyone using MMT 105s, what wedge shaft are you using (something other than MMT is what I’m looking for). Thanks!

 

I have TI S400's in my wedges now. I may end up putting MMT 125S in them but not sure. 

 

[AtlantaGolf3]

7 hours ago, driveandputtmachine said:

If you find someone in Atlanta let me know.  I got lucky and was fit by Dana Upshaw a couple of times before he retired (Down in Warner Robbins, he was considered by most to be a top 10 fitter in the US before retiring).  So I have a pretty good idea of what fits me and what doesn't to start from a baseline.  I have tried CC, and found no luck.  PGATSS is a waste of time.  There are a couple of good guys in Atlanta, but having access to all the latest and greatest shafts in X flex is the problem I run into there.

 

I did get fitted at the Kingdom at Reynolds.  I checked the Maltby P F to get irons with the closest VCoG and RCoG first and stuck with those heads and tried out shafts on that head.  For me (ZX7 guy as well) I ended up doing most of my testing in the P7MC.  Unfortunately I had to guess a bit since the P7MC nor the ZX7 are measured yet by Maltby for VCoG and RCoG.   I also knew my iron spin would be higher with the P7MC than it is with my ZX7 based on findings from CChampion.

 

I wanted to like the MMT, but they did not perform as well for me as the Recoils.  MY SS with the optimizer was right around 95 or so if I remember correctly, so in the same area as you.  The 105 MMT in TX just didn't jive, spin was good, but I didn't like how I felt with them on the downswing, couldn't quite put my finger on the problem, my strikes just weren't as often in the SS as I would like.  The 125 TX was right on the money for the P7MC's, but the spin was lower than I wanted, knowing with the ZX7 have less spin than the P7MC's.

 

You can try the kingdom at Reynolds similarly, they book up quick for fittings, and I got lucky in that someone cancelled and I got in.

Thank you for the write up. It’s been a bit of a guess and check so far. I hit the P7MC and the Miz MMC’s for reference. P7MCs spun a ton more. MMCs a little less. In the zx7’s I loved the feel of $taper 130’s. In TI X100’s were consistent for spin, but timing in the bottom of my swing became a tad unstable. By all means I know the x100s are a very stable shaft, but my inconsistency created some timing problems. The ZX7’s in PX 6.5s were the best for timing of my swing, spin and consistent ball speeds (which were higher than others I tested).  The thing I didn’t like about the PX’s was the muted feel at impact. I would have a perfect strike and it would feel dull compared to a flush strike with other shafts. I know it wasn’t the head. The ZX7s are super soft and I lost a little bit of that. 
 

I ended up pulling the trigger on the 6.5’s because the results were the best.
 

Wish I was able to test the MMTs out. Maybe down the road. 

[AtlantaGolf3]

7 hours ago, driveandputtmachine said:

If you find someone in Atlanta let me know.  I got lucky and was fit by Dana Upshaw a couple of times before he retired (Down in Warner Robbins, he was considered by most to be a top 10 fitter in the US before retiring).  So I have a pretty good idea of what fits me and what doesn't to start from a baseline.  I have tried CC, and found no luck.  PGATSS is a waste of time.  There are a couple of good guys in Atlanta, but having access to all the latest and greatest shafts in X flex is the problem I run into there.

 

I did get fitted at the Kingdom at Reynolds.  I checked the Maltby P F to get irons with the closest VCoG and RCoG first and stuck with those heads and tried out shafts on that head.  For me (ZX7 guy as well) I ended up doing most of my testing in the P7MC.  Unfortunately I had to guess a bit since the P7MC nor the ZX7 are measured yet by Maltby for VCoG and RCoG.   I also knew my iron spin would be higher with the P7MC than it is with my ZX7 based on findings from CChampion.

 

I wanted to like the MMT, but they did not perform as well for me as the Recoils.  MY SS with the optimizer was right around 95 or so if I remember correctly, so in the same area as you.  The 105 MMT in TX just didn't jive, spin was good, but I didn't like how I felt with them on the downswing, couldn't quite put my finger on the problem, my strikes just weren't as often in the SS as I would like.  The 125 TX was right on the money for the P7MC's, but the spin was lower than I wanted, knowing with the ZX7 have less spin than the P7MC's.

 

You can try the kingdom at Reynolds similarly, they book up quick for fittings, and I got lucky in that someone cancelled and I got in.

Thank you for the write up. It’s been a bit of a guess and check so far. I hit the P7MC and the Miz MMC’s for reference. P7MCs spun a ton more. MMCs a little less. In the zx7’s I loved the feel of $taper 130’s. In TI X100’s were consistent for spin, but timing in the bottom of my swing became a tad unstable. By all means I know the x100s are a very stable shaft, but my inconsistency created some timing problems. The ZX7’s in PX 6.5s were the best for timing of my swing, spin and consistent ball speeds (which were higher than others I tested).  The thing I didn’t like about the PX’s was the muted feel at impact. I would have a perfect strike and it would feel dull compared to a flush strike with other shafts. I know it wasn’t the head. The ZX7s are super soft and I lost a little bit of that. 
 

I ended up pulling the trigger on the 6.5’s because the results were the best.
 

Wish I was able to test the MMTs out. Maybe down the road.