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[quote name='kenk7us2002' post='847359' date='Jan 3 2008, 04:21 PM']Bulldog

I really dont think we make people lazy or not lazy they just are Just like the fact that your kids will be what they are


What he said was "Tom Weiskopf's. Pretty swing, no short game, and the swing doesn't really hold up under pressure. "

That pretty much sounds like no game

His swing held up under pressure well enough to win 30 times professionaly Tom's problem was he spent his career being compard to Jack the Greatest player to ever live .[/quote]

Weiskopf was a very good player, his resume speaks for it's self. I was trying to make a point relavant to other PGA players. I am sure Weiskopf had a better short game and putter than most anyone on this forum but when all was said and done he was viewed as an underacheiver. I was using Weiskopf as a comparison to Adam Scott, whom has a very pretty swing, his short game is not up to snuff compared to most of the PGA Tour, and his swing seems to fall apart on the 72nd hole when he needs a clutch shot. I read an interview with TW and he acknowledged that playing in the same era as Nicklaus and being compared to him was very difficult. BTW my favorite golf quote of all time is during the 1986 Masters when Jack Whitaker (???) asked TW what was going through Jack's mind right now, and his unscripted instantanious response was "If I knew what Jack was thinking I would have won this tournament" classic. I think when it is all said and done AS career will be viewed much like Weiskopf's, probably one major and about 20 wins on the PGA tour, not bad, but very border line Hall of Fame.

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[quote name='Bulldog31' post='847239' date='Jan 3 2008, 02:39 PM']What is being "average"? Define that and how one goes about becoming average and I will give you my best response. But I will say my kids WILL NOT be lazy, appreciate what they have and how to earn everything they get. They are WAY too many spoiled BRATS in this country with no appreciation with what hard work can get you.

Anyone is better then George Dub...I will just leave it at that.

I don't think anyone said Weiskopf didn't have game, the poster merely said he knew he was inferior to Jack. Much like Scott is with Tiger.

[quote name='kenk7us2002' post='847229' date='Jan 3 2008, 01:31 PM']Bulldog what if you have a kid that just wants to be average and could care less about being the best or trying to be .

There are a lot of fine people like that you know.

Also I got to ask who you meant when you posted this "Besides, accepting 2nd best or being 2nd best is what gets us a certain President running our country right now."

Who would you have wanted? A trader named Kerry maybe?

Dlygrisse couple of points

I was referring to Day saying Tiger had lots of time and was watching him on TV, Like I said before this kid made some stupid remarks and from what I have heard has not apologized. If they were taken out of context in time he will redeem himself if not we will have another Sabbatini with as far as I can see less game. I said it before I hope I am wrong about this kid I really do.


But most of all where do you get off saying Tom Weiskoft did not have game (note I think he was a jerk) but 26 pro wins including a major four Senior tour wins Geeeeeeeeeez if that is not game then what the hell is?[/quote]
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Yeah, "anyone is better than George W" I guess living in a democracy where people actually get to vote sucks. Regardless of what the MoveON .org people say he won the election twice. Who would you rather have as President Hugo Chavez? Fidel Castro?

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[quote name='kenk7us2002' post='853194' date='Jan 7 2008, 05:47 PM']TW not only followed Jacks footsteps on tour but at the same college as well.

Somebody once said TW could do everthing that Jack could do with less effort but think.

but he still had a hell of a career.[/quote]


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[quote name='Rockfish' post='852955' date='Jan 7 2008, 01:36 PM']So why, under your avatar, does it say "From: NY, VA, WA, New Zealand" ??? ;)[/quote]

Doesnt mean I am "from" there... Just means thats where I currently live... 1 month of 4 in NZ, and the rest in NY, WA, or VA... depends on my mood... but mainly NYC...

Does yours show where you currently live or your nationality? Im sure some its both... But my job has me on the go...

Youre getting awfully defensive of your "penal colony" :cheesy: ha ha. You can relax now... Just cause I said its the worldwide belief that Aussies come across as arrogant, doesnt mean you are the majority :cheesy: competitiveness can come across as arrogance...

now back to the "arrogant kid" from Aussie... I still will be suprised if he gets s top ten with the "big boys" in 08

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Hey guys, seeing as this is one of my first few posts. I figured i'd make it worthwhile.

I know Jason personally, and to say he is disrespectful and he is arrogant is so far from the truth its quite laughable. It does seem you people out there are quick to judge a person on a single interview, or statement. I can say that Jason is a very motivated individual and has his sights set on becoming the very best golf professional he can be. His work ethic on the course is outstanding which is more than i can say for some, the comment previously stated "cruising" does come to mind. He is a very polite person and certainly isn't outspoken person.

I've known Jason now for about 4 years now, and watching him "evolve" as a player he certainly now has the ability and the game to match it with the best in the world, yes, that includes Tiger Woods. He has massive asparations and the drive to achieve them.

Give Jason a chance to prove himself on the US Tour and if he wins an event or two, good on him.

Dave. ;)

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[quote name='Lawrymonster' post='853245' date='Jan 7 2008, 05:34 PM']Hey guys, seeing as this is one of my first few posts. I figured i'd make it worthwhile.

I know Jason personally, and to say he is disrespectful and he is arrogant is so far from the truth its quite laughable. It does seem you people out there are quick to judge a person on a single interview, or statement. I can say that Jason is a very motivated individual and has his sights set on becoming the very best golf professional he can be. His work ethic on the course is outstanding which is more than i can say for some, the comment previously stated "cruising" does come to mind. He is a very polite person and certainly isn't outspoken person.

I've known Jason now for about 4 years now, and watching him "evolve" as a player he certainly now has the ability and the game to match it with the best in the world, yes, that includes Tiger Woods. He has massive asparations and the drive to achieve them.

Give Jason a chance to prove himself on the US Tour and if he wins an event or two, good on him.

Dave. ;)[/quote]


You people that no this kid personally make us that dont wonder who was that guy running his mouth was in that interview.

Like I said the kid will have his chance to prove me wrong but I do not expect he will.

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[quote name='WRXJIM' post='853223' date='Jan 7 2008, 05:16 PM'][quote name='Rockfish' post='852955' date='Jan 7 2008, 01:36 PM']So why, under your avatar, does it say "From: NY, VA, WA, New Zealand" ??? ;)[/quote]

Doesnt mean I am "from" there... Just means thats where I currently live... 1 month of 4 in NZ, and the rest in NY, WA, or VA... depends on my mood... but mainly NYC...

Does yours show where you currently live or your nationality? Im sure some its both... But my job has me on the go...

Youre getting awfully defensive of your "penal colony" :cheesy: ha ha. You can relax now... Just cause I said its the worldwide belief that Aussies come across as arrogant, doesnt mean you are the majority :cheesy: competitiveness can come across as arrogance...

now back to the "arrogant kid" from Aussie... I still will be suprised if he gets s top ten with the "big boys" in 08


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Pay attention my friend.

Firstly, yes. my "From" does actually show where I'm "from" :cheesy:

Secondly, *I* am not getting "defensive" about anything. :cheesy:

And thirdly, *I* am not the one that started "questioning" you in the first place. *I* merely noted you said you were [b]not[/b] from NZ and then pointed out that your profile, that YOU (presumably) filled out, SAYS you [b]are[/b] from NZ.

Nice talkin' to ya !!! :cheesy:

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[quote name='bmaas03' post='852835' date='Jan 8 2008, 03:52 AM']Kerry is a trader?
What do you think he'll take in trade for his purple hearts?[/quote]

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[quote name='bmaas03' post='852835' date='Jan 7 2008, 11:52 AM'][quote name='kenk7us2002' post='847229' date='Jan 3 2008, 12:31 PM']Also I got to ask who you meant when you posted this "Besides, accepting 2nd best or being 2nd best is what gets us a certain President running our country right now."

Who would you have wanted? A trader named Kerry maybe?[/quote]


Kerry is a trader?
What do you think he'll take in trade for his purple hearts?
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What did he get Purple Hearts for again? Did he get hit with some rice? C'mon guys its time to drop the whole George Bush sucks he was never really elected thing. Sure he made mistakes, everyone does, but his biggest was perhaps thinking the civilized world understood the need to go to war. Iraq was, and is, necessary. Want to know why? PM me. Just know Iraq is only the beginning of our modern war on "terror". And we found WMD's, anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

Alright now back on topic. Jason Day probably shouldn't ahve said he is going to beat Tiger, but at the same time he should want and strive for that. A wise man said if you have to tell people you are great then you are not actually great.

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He never said he is going to beat Tiger, he clearly said that is his goal.

And we didn't need to go to war. If we, as a country, stop acting so arrogant and think that we can fix everything, people in other countries might, just might, leave us alone. We have enough INTERNAL problems here in our own backyard. But who cares, lets start one giant war with everyone we think needs fixing. But again this is a topic for a much different forum. But I would love for you to PM me on why needed to go to war with Iraq. I always need a good laugh.

Back on topic: Read the article, Jason Day only comes off as being very goal driven.

[quote name='I heart blades' post='853496' date='Jan 7 2008, 08:23 PM'][quote name='bmaas03' post='852835' date='Jan 7 2008, 11:52 AM'][quote name='kenk7us2002' post='847229' date='Jan 3 2008, 12:31 PM']Also I got to ask who you meant when you posted this "Besides, accepting 2nd best or being 2nd best is what gets us a certain President running our country right now."

Who would you have wanted? A trader named Kerry maybe?[/quote]


Kerry is a trader?
What do you think he'll take in trade for his purple hearts?
[/quote]
What did he get Purple Hearts for again? Did he get hit with some rice? C'mon guys its time to drop the whole George Bush sucks he was never really elected thing. Sure he made mistakes, everyone does, but his biggest was perhaps thinking the civilized world understood the need to go to war. Iraq was, and is, necessary. Want to know why? PM me. Just know Iraq is only the beginning of our modern war on "terror". And we found WMD's, anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

Alright now back on topic. Jason Day probably shouldn't ahve said he is going to beat Tiger, but at the same time he should want and strive for that. A wise man said if you have to tell people you are great then you are not actually great.
[/quote]

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[quote name='Bulldog31' post='853514' date='Jan 7 2008, 08:37 PM']He never said he is going to beat Tiger, he clearly said that is his goal.

And we didn't need to go to war. If we, as a country, stop acting so arrogant and think that we can fix everything, people in other countries might, just might, leave us alone. We have enough INTERNAL problems here in our own backyard. But who cares, lets start one giant war with everyone we think needs fixing. But again this is a topic for a much different forum. But I would love for you to PM me on why needed to go to war with Iraq. I always need a good laugh.

Back on topic: Read the article, Jason Day only comes off as being very goal driven.

[quote name='I heart blades' post='853496' date='Jan 7 2008, 08:23 PM'][quote name='bmaas03' post='852835' date='Jan 7 2008, 11:52 AM'][quote name='kenk7us2002' post='847229' date='Jan 3 2008, 12:31 PM']Also I got to ask who you meant when you posted this "Besides, accepting 2nd best or being 2nd best is what gets us a certain President running our country right now."

Who would you have wanted? A trader named Kerry maybe?[/quote]


Kerry is a trader?
What do you think he'll take in trade for his purple hearts?
[/quote]
What did he get Purple Hearts for again? Did he get hit with some rice? C'mon guys its time to drop the whole George Bush sucks he was never really elected thing. Sure he made mistakes, everyone does, but his biggest was perhaps thinking the civilized world understood the need to go to war. Iraq was, and is, necessary. Want to know why? PM me. Just know Iraq is only the beginning of our modern war on "terror". And we found WMD's, anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

Alright now back on topic. Jason Day probably shouldn't ahve said he is going to beat Tiger, but at the same time he should want and strive for that. A wise man said if you have to tell people you are great then you are not actually great.
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Moderators where are you?

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[quote name='Bulldog31' post='853514' date='Jan 7 2008, 09:37 PM']He never said he is going to beat Tiger, he clearly said that is his goal.

And we didn't need to go to war. If we, as a country, stop acting so arrogant and think that we can fix everything, people in other countries might, just might, leave us alone. We have enough INTERNAL problems here in our own backyard. But who cares, lets start one giant war with everyone we think needs fixing. But again this is a topic for a much different forum. But I would love for you to PM me on why needed to go to war with Iraq. I always need a good laugh.

Back on topic: Read the article, Jason Day only comes off as being very goal driven.

[quote name='I heart blades' post='853496' date='Jan 7 2008, 08:23 PM'][quote name='bmaas03' post='852835' date='Jan 7 2008, 11:52 AM'][quote name='kenk7us2002' post='847229' date='Jan 3 2008, 12:31 PM']Also I got to ask who you meant when you posted this "Besides, accepting 2nd best or being 2nd best is what gets us a certain President running our country right now."

Who would you have wanted? A trader named Kerry maybe?[/quote]


Kerry is a trader?
What do you think he'll take in trade for his purple hearts?
[/quote]
What did he get Purple Hearts for again? Did he get hit with some rice? C'mon guys its time to drop the whole George Bush sucks he was never really elected thing. Sure he made mistakes, everyone does, but his biggest was perhaps thinking the civilized world understood the need to go to war. Iraq was, and is, necessary. Want to know why? PM me. Just know Iraq is only the beginning of our modern war on "terror". And we found WMD's, anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

Alright now back on topic. Jason Day probably shouldn't ahve said he is going to beat Tiger, but at the same time he should want and strive for that. A wise man said if you have to tell people you are great then you are not actually great.
[/quote]

[/quote]

Bulldog is your real name Neville Chamberlin?

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Guys, this is a GOLF forum. NOT a place to discuss politics and the likes. If you wish to do so, take it to PM's and keep it there.

It seems that this thread has run its course.

And please guys, it would be a big big help for us if you would press the violation button if you see a thread turn south like this one did. Thanks ;)

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