2021 PGA Championship - Phil!

[bscinstnct]

5 minutes ago, jacincm said:

Officially the biggest Brooks Koepka fan

https://twitter.com/rjwinfield/status/1396999787266940928?s=21

 

 

[FootWedge16]

14 minutes ago, jacincm said:

Officially the biggest Brooks Koepka fan

https://twitter.com/rjwinfield/status/1396999787266940928?s=21

Okay this makes up for the post round whining 

[pktaske]

3 hours ago, BNGL said:

You are nothing. Just a fan.

 

Today's attitude x10.

 

Fans ARE the sport. Period. Without it, it's ping pong. Everyone plays with their friends but no one's watching on TV, attending, advertising, etc and the opportunity to make it a career is zilch. Baseball. Football. Etc. Phil went out of his way to praise the fans in his press conference. I can only hope it wasn't lip service.

 

People might get a little zealous now and then but nothing was so egregious. When you think about the tens of millions of attendees each year around the world at sporting events and the intense emotion around it, it's been a pretty spectacular resume of self control in terms of impacting the actual athletes themselves.

 

Think about what you say next time or how you say it.

Edited May 25, 2021 by pktaske

[Arn]

26 minutes ago, jacincm said:

Officially the biggest Brooks Koepka fan

https://twitter.com/rjwinfield/status/1396999787266940928?s=21

Oof, who leaked that? Hahahahaha!!!!!

[mwkbmw]

14 hours ago, MMB1500 said:

 

The Titleist PR folks are busy trying to remove that photo from the internet.  Cleetus there doesn't fit in with their "demographic".

Dang, I thought that was Fleetwood.

 

Edited May 25, 2021 by mwkbmw
Added pic.

[mwkbmw]

6 hours ago, TiScape said:

Many. Every time some dumbass runs up on stage and tries to do to the artist what that idiot did to Phil, they get full on destroyed by some 285lb security guard! 😂 

True, but that 285lb side of beef couldn't stop the whole crowd if they decided to storm the stage.

[mwkbmw]

3 hours ago, BNGL said:

I’ll take the counterpoint side on this one. That scene and others like it, a la East Lake, or wherever else (storming the court included). Is totally and completely unacceptable, it has zero place in golf. The Tour/hosting organization need to doa better job protecting their players. Further more on my end of course maintenance, I do not want hundreds (thousands?) of yahoo’s trampling all over the property. You are a fan...not a player, not a caddie, not a coach, not a cameraman, not a scorer. You are nothing. Just a fan, absolutely nothing more. The ropes are there to separate the players from the fans. 

If I am not mistaken, they used to allow fans on the last fairway behind the players.

 

But, back then, the percentage of boorish idiots in the crowd was a lot smaller. People were a bit more civilized.

[golfandwin]

If someone bumping into your knee while you're walking is that big of a deal and causes that much pain, you probably should be home nursing your knee instead of playing. It did seem like Brooks was trying to deflect some attention off his play. It's not like he got whacked by a metal baton.

 

But there should always be a place for the competitors to walk that's unobstructed by fans. It's ridiculous that guy was able to walk right behind Phil and grab him like that. But overall it didn't seem like that big of a deal (Phil made no mention of it) and shouldn't overshadow how magnificent that moment was for both Phil and the crowd.

Edited May 25, 2021 by golfandwin

[drbonesvt]

2 hours ago, mwkbmw said:

Dang, I thought that was Fleetwood.

 

Whatever happened to the Old adage of keep your hands to yourself 

[grm24]

4 hours ago, callawayjay said:

He didn’t melt in the 2018 pga in St. Louis when he went head to head with tiger. 

Hmmmm. Brooks didn't go head to head with Tiger at the 2018 PGA Championship final round. They were in different groups. Tiger finished two groups ahead of Brooks.

Edited May 25, 2021 by grm24

[bladehunter]

9 hours ago, pktaske said:

 

Today's attitude x10.

 

Fans ARE the sport. Period. Without it, it's ping pong. Everyone plays with their friends but no one's watching on TV, attending, advertising, etc and the opportunity to make it a career is zilch. Baseball. Football. Etc. Phil went out of his way to praise the fans in his press conference. I can only hope it wasn't lip service.

 

People might get a little zealous now and then but nothing was so egregious. When you think about the tens of millions of attendees each year around the world at sporting events and the intense emotion around it, it's been a pretty spectacular resume of self control in terms of impacting the actual athletes themselves.

 

Think about what you say next time or how you say it.

In person fans are an extremely small part.  And already proven to not be a must.  In person fans is what he meant. 

[stingerfade]

On 5/24/2021 at 7:32 AM, caniac6 said:

This is such a historic win, I wouldn't be surprised to see a statue similar to Payne's at Pinehurst. Phil in mid stride giving a thumbs up.

The statue isn’t just because he won 

[stingerfade]

11 hours ago, dalehead said:

Hmmm. Let me think it over.

Zero in on the mashed potato crowd and now we’re on to something. Shooting them would hopefully curb the behavior a little 

Edited May 25, 2021 by stingerfade

[ATLgopher]

9 hours ago, callawayjay said:

He didn’t melt in the 2018 pga in St. Louis when he went head to head with tiger. 

did you rewrite history and put them in the same pairing?

[OBbogey5]

On 5/23/2021 at 8:35 PM, indianagolf2 said:

Whats a greater accomplishment tiger last masters or phil pga today ?? This course was harder for sure

Phil. He won it. In 2019, all Tiger’s competition wilted. Woods won with a complete lay the sod over it chunk on 18 for bogey. Phill needed to hit that 9 iron on 18. He had to have it at that moment. 

[callawayjay]

2 hours ago, ATLgopher said:

did you rewrite history and put them in the same pairing?

He could here the roars. He could see the board. Being paired with tiger was never the issue when he was tied for the lead. The competition always folded. 

[pktaske]

3 hours ago, bladehunter said:

In person fans are an extremely small part.  And already proven to not be a must.  In person fans is what he meant. 

 

 

 

Fans are a must in any way, shape or form as THEY choose to appear. I'm not sure I see the line between the two. "In-person" fans are probably the most dedicated of the group in all sports. Baseball for instance:

 

"Revenue streams

Much of the MLB's total league-wide revenue was earned from gate receipts (ticket sales) in 2019"

 

I'll be the first to admit my feelings run deep and perhaps a bit too sensitive on this subject so my apologies but I grow more and more disturbed by the slow erosion of understanding of how this stuff works. All of professional sports generating revenue that allows its participants to make 7+ figure salaries rest on the back of Atlas, also known as the working folk.

 

The groundswell of emotion on 18 was authentic and incredible to witness. I'm can't throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

Edited May 25, 2021 by pktaske

[ATLgopher]

1 minute ago, callawayjay said:

He could here the roars. He could see the board. Being paired with tiger was never the issue when he was tied for the lead. The competition always folded. 

We obviously have a different opinion of what going “head to head” means.

 

With that said, brooks is now on a streak of not closing out tournaments. Instead of owning it, he’s playing the Nancy Kerrigan card

[BNGL]

58 minutes ago, pktaske said:

 

 

 

Fans are a must in any way, shape or form as THEY choose to appear. I'm not sure I see the line between the two. "In-person" fans are probably the most dedicated of the group in all sports. Baseball for instance:

 

"Revenue streams

Much of the MLB's total league-wide revenue was earned from gate receipts (ticket sales) in 2019"

 

I'll be the first to admit my feelings run deep and perhaps a bit too sensitive on this subject so my apologies but I grow more and more disturbed by the slow erosion of understanding of how this stuff works. All of professional sports generating revenue that allows its participants to make 7+ figure salaries rest on the back of Atlas, also known as the working folk.

 

The groundswell of emotion on 18 was authentic and incredible to witness. I'm can't throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sorry for channeling my inner forged forever (or 12 year old girl not certain which yet) with the emojis but I’m legit laughing. Let me tell you something son, let’s look at golf because this being a golf site and talking about a golf event in particular. You know how much the in person fans mean to the PGA Tours bottom line? Zero. The Tour sees zero ticket sales, zero concessions, zero beer sales. ZERO. I grow sick and tired of the people who think that because they paid money, sometimes handsome amounts to attend an event that means that they feel entitled to get up close and personal to the action.

 

PS I am very familiar with how things work...I hosted multiple PGA Tour Invitationals and a major championships. So maybe next time before speaking out passion and emotion you should think before you speak peckerhead 

Edited May 25, 2021 by BNGL

[Superbrit]

1 hour ago, OBbogey5 said:

Phil. He won it. In 2019, all Tiger’s competition wilted. Woods won with a complete lay the sod over it chunk on 18 for bogey. Phill needed to hit that 9 iron on 18. He had to have it at that moment. 

mmm not sure about that, Phil's closest challengers at the start of round 4 all shot over par, Phil himself shot over par, Phil won it as much as Tiger won his masters

[tiderider]

8 minutes ago, BNGL said:

LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sorry for channeling my inner forged forever (or 12 year old girl not certain which yet) with the emojis but I’m legit laughing. Let me tell you something son, let’s look at golf because this being a golf site and talking about a golf event in particular. You know how much the in person fans mean to the PGA Tours bottom line? Zero. The Tour sees zero ticket sales, zero concessions, zero beer sales. ZERO. I grow sick and tired of the people who think that because they paid money, sometimes handsome amounts to attend an event that means that they feel entitled to get up close and personal to the action.

 

PS I am very familiar with how things work...I hosted multiple PGA Tour Invitationals and a major championships. So maybe next time before speaking out passion and emotion you should think before you speak peckerhead 

you condemn the crowd for displaying crass behavior, then call someone with whom you disagree "peckerhead" ... you can make an argument without resorting to insults ... his post didn't insult anyone, and he wasn't bragging about who/what he knows ... 

 

but you do you ... 

[pktaske]

26 minutes ago, BNGL said:

LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sorry for channeling my inner forged forever (or 12 year old girl not certain which yet) with the emojis but I’m legit laughing. Let me tell you something son, let’s look at golf because this being a golf site and talking about a golf event in particular. You know how much the in person fans mean to the PGA Tours bottom line? Zero. The Tour sees zero ticket sales, zero concessions, zero beer sales. ZERO. I grow sick and tired of the people who think that because they paid money, sometimes handsome amounts to attend an event that means that they feel entitled to get up close and personal to the action.

 

PS I am very familiar with how things work...I hosted multiple PGA Tour Invitationals and a major championships. So maybe next time before speaking out passion and emotion you should think before you speak peckerhead 

Ok, I'm out.

 

Try the veal.

[bladehunter]

1 hour ago, pktaske said:

 

 

 

Fans are a must in any way, shape or form as THEY choose to appear. I'm not sure I see the line between the two. "In-person" fans are probably the most dedicated of the group in all sports. Baseball for instance:

 

"Revenue streams

Much of the MLB's total league-wide revenue was earned from gate receipts (ticket sales) in 2019"

 

I'll be the first to admit my feelings run deep and perhaps a bit too sensitive on this subject so my apologies but I grow more and more disturbed by the slow erosion of understanding of how this stuff works. All of professional sports generating revenue that allows its participants to make 7+ figure salaries rest on the back of Atlas, also known as the working folk.

 

The groundswell of emotion on 18 was authentic and incredible to witness. I'm can't throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

I understand the point.  To some degree I agree.  But.  In my opinion mixing alcohol with what we saw sunday is a trampling event waiting for a place to happen. 
 

remember. A person is generally smart . But people are no different than a pack of dogs.   Generally the most unpredictable forces on earth.  the players etc must be kept safe.  On this instance they simply remained safe out of pure chance. 
 

baseball is a poor analogy by the way.  It’s been dying since 1994.  I was once a super fan .  They lost me inch by inch until I cannot stomach a game at all.  Many reasons.  But I’m not alone .  Golf on the other hand isn’t being visited frequently by the biggest fans.  It’s a lot of frat boys and ex frat boys going to party.  Cut out the booze completely and you’d see how many true fans attend.  Not many.  Golf can thrive minus in person fans.  You can’t see anything in person anyway.  

[bscinstnct]

32 minutes ago, BNGL said:

LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sorry for channeling my inner forged forever (or 12 year old girl not certain which yet) with the emojis but I’m legit laughing. Let me tell you something son, let’s look at golf because this being a golf site and talking about a golf event in particular. You know how much the in person fans mean to the PGA Tours bottom line? Zero. The Tour sees zero ticket sales, zero concessions, zero beer sales. ZERO. I grow sick and tired of the people who think that because they paid money, sometimes handsome amounts to attend an event that means that they feel entitled to get up close and personal to the action.

 

PS I am very familiar with how things work...I hosted multiple PGA Tour Invitationals and a major championships. So maybe next time before speaking out passion and emotion you should think before you speak peckerhead 

I bet if you came out to a Yankee game with  me and my boys

 

We get you so bombed and fired up!

 

You run on field like

 

🤣

 

 

 

 

[callawayjay]

At one point Phil was -10. After that he played the rest at 4 over and still won by 2. The best scores came from way back Sunday and that didn’t mess with the outcome. He earned it. 
 

 

[callawayjay]

2 hours ago, ATLgopher said:

We obviously have a different opinion of what going “head to head” means.

 

With that said, brooks is now on a streak of not closing out tournaments. Instead of owning it, he’s playing the Nancy Kerrigan card

Head to head obviously but he saw the cat lurking and stepped on the gas. Up until the 2019 masters he was considered a terminator. Now he’s just any other great player near the lead. 

[BNGL]

53 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

I bet if you came out to a Yankee game with  me and my boys

 

We get you so bombed and fired up!

 

You run on field like

 

🤣

 

 

 

 

In the words of Ron White, I’d much rather sandpaper the butthole of an alligator in a phone booth than attend a Yankees game.

[BNGL]

1 hour ago, tiderider said:

you condemn the crowd for displaying crass behavior, then call someone with whom you disagree "peckerhead" ... you can make an argument without resorting to insults ... his post didn't insult anyone, and he wasn't bragging about who/what he knows ... 

 

but you do you ... 

absolutely anyone could make an argument civilly, but stupidity in all shapes and forms and in all walks of life needs to be shut down immediately. One stupid idea is one too many. 
 

it’s not bragging, bragging would entail listing the awards/accolades I have accrued over almost 30 years of working in golf. 

[farmer]

 

 

Excellent humble brag there, BNGL!  Almost deflected the criticism of you calling someone a "peckerhead".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bscinstnct]

23 minutes ago, BNGL said:

In the words of Ron White, I’d much rather sandpaper the butthole of an alligator in a phone booth than attend a Yankees game.

 

Roy White was dope! Underrated offensively and great outfielder.

 

He won 2 WS with the Yankees.

 

You sure he said that?