Tiger Update (Masters 2022) *** MERGED ***

[ShowMe]

8 minutes ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

Tiger was in the field for 5 of the 6 majors Phil won and his finished in those majors were t22-t4-t3-t4-t6.

Also his record at Augusta from 2006-2013 is amazing considering he never won but was always in the mix.

t3-t2-2-t6-t4-t4-t40-t4

 

I think he could've easily won 2-3 green jackets in that span. 

 

 

"Nicklaus played against four of the greatest golfers ever and not only won 18 majors but had 19 second-place finishes. His rivals were killers too – Palmer got him at Cherry Hills, Trevino took him down four different times including on an 18-hole playoff at Merion and Tom Watson won three majors over Nicklaus, all in heartbreaking fashion.

 

Then there’s Tiger, who never had a Sunday showdown with any of the modern greats."

[ShowMe]

5 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

If TW won 82 PGA Tour events and 15 Majors

 

And you’re saying he was the best for 12 months

 

Who’s on drugs?

 

🤣

 

I'm not saying it, Jack's 18 majors are saying it.  😂

[ShowMe]

2 minutes ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

Didn't know you could win 15 majors in 12 months 🤣.  @ShowMe is higher then Pablo Escobar tonight.

 

 

You know you've lost the argument when you go ad hominem...

[Mr.Cleeks]

3 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

You know you've lost the argument when you go ad hominem...

You literally said hottest golfer in the world for 12 months lol. Tiger has had 4 seperate seasons where he won multiple majors (same as Jack), he's been PGA Tour POY 11 times while Nicklaus has won it 6 times. I acknowledged earlier in the thread Jack is the GOAT. But your claim is utter BS and you clearly know nothing about golf.

[Shilgy]

14 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

Jack

Tiger

 

then a big gap

 

Hogan

Hagen

#5 is a tossup between Jones, Player, Snead, and Arnie

Can’t be…..surely the math guy knows 11>9

[Mr.Cleeks]

Just now, Shilgy said:

Can’t be…..surely the math guy knows 11>9

I don't think logic is his strong suit either!

[Shilgy]

9 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

"Nicklaus played against four of the greatest golfers ever and not only won 18 majors but had 19 second-place finishes. His rivals were killers too – Palmer got him at Cherry Hills, Trevino took him down four different times including on an 18-hole playoff at Merion and Tom Watson won three majors over Nicklaus, all in heartbreaking fashion.

 

Then there’s Tiger, who never had a Sunday showdown with any of the modern greats."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/41740-jack-nicklaus-vs-tiger-woods-who-faces-tougher-competition

[Mustard_Tiger]

Could we please not have a Tiger vs. Jack argument take place in the middle of a Tiger update thread?

[bscinstnct]

10 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

I'm not saying it, Jack's 18 majors are saying it.  😂

 

Let me guess.

 

Your Dad hated TW right?

 

But please continue to share of these new ideas. We have never heard them before. It’s fascinating ; )

[Mr.Cleeks]

24 minutes ago, ShowMe said:

 

"Nicklaus played against four of the greatest golfers ever and not only won 18 majors but had 19 second-place finishes. His rivals were killers too – Palmer got him at Cherry Hills, Trevino took him down four different times including on an 18-hole playoff at Merion and Tom Watson won three majors over Nicklaus, all in heartbreaking fashion.

 

Then there’s Tiger, who never had a Sunday showdown with any of the modern greats."

Tiger has beaten Ernie Els, Retief Goosen, Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson, and Brooks Koepka in majors. The first 3 are hall of famers and the last 2 are multiple major champions and former world number 1s. 

Edited October 10, 2021 by PHILsThemannnn

[Mr.Cleeks]

3 minutes ago, Mustard_Tiger said:

Could we please not have a Tiger vs. Jack argument take place in the middle of a Tiger update thread?

Explain to @ShowMe that Tiger Woods didn't just have a hot 12 months and tell him STFU.

[A.Princey]

Tiger might be the biggest underperforming golfer ever, given his talent level. When he was at his peak, it wasn’t a question of  if, but rather when and by how much he eclipses Jack. This is the God’s honest truth. Discuss....

Edited October 10, 2021 by A.Princey

[Soloman1]

21 minutes ago, Mustard_Tiger said:

Could we please not have a Tiger vs. Jack argument take place in the middle of a Tiger update thread?

 

Woah, you can't be serious. These Jack vs Tiger discussions (not arguments) are 10X better and more entertaining than anything on TV.

[A.Princey]

@ShowMeTIGER, TIGER, TIGER, TIGER, TIGER, TIGER, TIGER, TIGER, TIGER, TIGER!

[dalehead]

2 hours ago, lefty1978 said:

Tiger on his best day beats Nicholas on his best day.

Who’s Nicholas?

[ShowMe]

42 minutes ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

You literally said hottest golfer in the world for 12 months lol. Tiger has had 4 seperate seasons where he won multiple majors (same as Jack), he's been PGA Tour POY 11 times while Nicklaus has won it 6 times. I acknowledged earlier in the thread Jack is the GOAT. But your claim is utter BS and you clearly know nothing about golf.

 

Clearly.  But I do know something about math.  18>15  😮

[ShowMe]

44 minutes ago, Shilgy said:

Can’t be…..surely the math guy knows 11>9

 

Yeah, but if put Hagen ahead of Hogan, then all the Hogan guys would hate me too.  🙂

[ShowMe]

34 minutes ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

Tiger has beaten Ernie Els, Retief Goosen, Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson, and Brooks Koepka in majors. The first 3 are hall of famers and the last 2 are multiple major champions and former world number 1s. 

 

Ooo.  lol

[ShowMe]

36 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Let me guess.

 

Your Dad hated TW right?

 

But please continue to share of these new ideas. We have never heard them before. It’s fascinating ; )

 

My dad, who just turned 92, liked Arnie.  

 

Speaking of fascinating, you got any more pictures of Tiger in pleated pants?

[A.Princey]

Since we discuss math, here it is. The likelihood of a given talent pool producing the best player ever, goes up proportionally with the number of people competing. By yesteryears standard, the number of folks grinding out tour school and making an honest effort back in the 50s, 60s, 70s to turn pro, were minuscule by today’s numbers. Most had full and part time jobs to supplement any sort of “career earnings” on the golf course. Comparing strength of field follows suit here as well, with many, many more men becoming competitive throughout the 90s and 00s, as earnings potential grew. With this increased qualifying and college recruiting, these future fields should be full with even greater talent, by sheer probability alone. This is guaranteed, no debating the mathematical facts on this matter. 
 

This is the reason high school class size is the main factor in determining divisional status in athletics, the increased student body will almost always produce more able-bodied competitors, vying for the same number of team spots as the smaller schools. And by probability again, this increased pool of potential players will produce better talent.

 

It’s quite possible that back in Jack’s day, with the draw of talent into competitive golf being so low, that his era may have actually missed out on an even better, more dominant player than himself. This theoretical GOAT may have found it necessary to grind out a normal occupation to make a living, missing out on any possibility of fulfilling his true athletic destiny! 

[BlackDiamondPar5]

17 hours ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

I just saw picture of Tiger at one of Charlie's golf tournaments on twitter. No crutches and appears to be standing just fine on the leg! I think he'll be back in time for Augusta next year.

Standing just fine, which is questionable based on two photos, and playing Augusta in 22 are worlds apart.

 

Looks like he's favoring his leg and maybe using the club for support? Any video of him walking? 

 

Good to see him out but perhaps a little irrational exuberance? 

Edited October 10, 2021 by BlackDiamondPar5

[Mr.Cleeks]

4 hours ago, ShowMe said:

 

Clearly.  But I do know something about math.  18>15  😮

You are such an idiot! I acknowledged that Jack is the goat earlier in the thread.

 

The entire reason I'm going after you is for this statement . Probably the stupidest thing anyone has ever said. 

 

 

"Sure, Tiger was the best golfer ever to tee it up on the planet...for about 12 months."

 

If you think someone with 15 majors, 11 POY awards and having the lowest scoring average on tour 11 times was the best golfer was the hottest player on the planet for 12 months you should never comment in a tour talk thread again. 

[dcfas]

6 hours ago, A.Princey said:

Tiger might be the biggest underperforming golfer ever, given his talent level. When he was at his peak, it wasn’t a question of  if, but rather when and by how much he eclipses Jack. This is the God’s honest truth. Discuss....

It has been suggested over the years, and I recall it was hotly debated at each time, that TW could have won more majors if he simply didn’t change his swing. If you recall, he changed his swing multiple times and just about everybody scratched their heads and wondered wtf he was doing. 
 

In retrospect it is likely he was addressing injuries, and trying to find a way to continue playing and performing at the highest level. It is still debatable as to whether or not each swing change achieved what he was looking for, but there is no question the swing changes took time, and possibly detracted from winning more majors.

 

No doubt it was a Faustian bargain; he paid dearly with his body.

[MK7Golf21]

7 hours ago, A.Princey said:

Tiger might be the biggest underperforming golfer ever, given his talent level. When he was at his peak, it wasn’t a question of  if, but rather when and by how much he eclipses Jack. This is the God’s honest truth. Discuss....

would be interesting had he not switched coaches and swings after 2000 where he would be. You just don’t see other top players doing that. Imagine brooks, Dustin  or Justin Thomas changing their swing so many times. 

[bladehunter]

9 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Its ok SM. That’s very good. Anything else to say about Tiger here?

 

Or are you done now?

 

🤣

 

Tigerrrrrrrr!

 

 

He’s a bad mother ……shut your mouth ! wut ?  I’m just talkin bout tiger 🐅! 

[bladehunter]

7 hours ago, ShowMe said:

 

Clearly.  But I do know something about math.  18>15  😮

The thing is.  Jack ( I’m named after the guy ) is the Goat.   But. Tiger played the best golf that this planet has ever seen.  And that isn’t debatable.  Jack would agree with this.  There’s about a 18-22 month stretch that was not human.  

[dropkicked]

7 hours ago, ShowMe said:

 

Clearly.  But I do know something about math.  18>15  😮

How about 82>73

Why couldn't he catch Snead?..serious question... no major injuries, no apparent marital issues, all the privilege allotted to him but he couldn't do it.. why?

[BlackDiamondPar5]

Why are we debating GOAT in this thread? There are already plenty of GOAT debate threads.  Resurrect those instead of crapping up this thread!

 

 

[GwrxMod]

Topic under Moderator Approval.

 

Keep it on topic. The GOAT debate has already been discussed ad nauseam. 

[philly2kuk]

It’s just nice to see him standing without crutches. I hope he can get back to some quality of life, even if he never competes again.