Mizuno S23 Wedges

[Lemonde]

Is the embargo date for these the same as the 923 series?  Sept 20? 

[von3jack]

It's interesting that every company uses the same letters for grinds. C, D F, M, S, and X. I'd go with B-grind, E-Grind, O-Grind and V-Grind. 

[delacruz.c5d]

On 8/25/2022 at 10:30 AM, Lemonde said:

Is the embargo date for these the same as the 923 series?  Sept 20? 

My guess is that the US Embargo would match the date that they are stating on the Mizuno Japan website, which is 9/16/2022.  Same as what's listed for JPX 923.

 

As far as my humble thoughts on these wedges, I like the fact that at address position, it looks like a "normal" wedge vs. what a high toe (hi-toe?) wedge would look like.  It's a HECK of a lot better looking at address than the ES21.

 

Granted, the in the bag/back of the blade isn't as nice and clean as the T22/T20 wedges, but at least down at address, it isn't CRAZY looking...again IMHO.

 

As far as a the Mizuno S series (silhouette) wedges vs T (teardrop) wedges...they aren't really that much bigger.  They have a little bit of a rounder shape (leading edge and around the heel), but I've never found then to be gigantic steam shovels...which I would probably need...I stink. 

[Lemonde]

5 hours ago, delacruz.c5d said:

My guess is that the US Embargo would match the date that they are stating on the Mizuno Japan website, which is 9/16/2022.  Same as what's listed for JPX 923.

 

As far as my humble thoughts on these wedges, I like the fact that at address position, it looks like a "normal" wedge vs. what a high toe (hi-toe?) wedge would look like.  It's a HECK of a lot better looking at address than the ES21.

 

Granted, the in the bag/back of the blade isn't as nice and clean as the T22/T20 wedges, but at least down at address, it isn't CRAZY looking...again IMHO.

 

As far as a the Mizuno S series (silhouette) wedges vs T (teardrop) wedges...they aren't really that much bigger.  They have a little bit of a rounder shape (leading edge and around the heel), but I've never found then to be gigantic steam shovels...which I would probably need...I stink. 

Is there face pics posted? Haven’t seen any yet. 

[noodle3872]

3 hours ago, Lemonde said:

Is there face pics posted? Haven’t seen any yet. 

I haven’t come across in hand pics but there’s these product pics on Mizuno Japan. The extreme toe weighting is supposed to shift strike point.

Edited August 31, 2022 by noodle3872

[Golf64]

Love everything about this wedge, design, grinds, but not a fan of the boron. Have hit Mizuno irons in the past with boron and felt a bit firm to me. i understand why they use it, but prefer a softer feel. Looking forward to testing them out when they come out.

[delacruz.c5d]

13 hours ago, Lemonde said:

Is there face pics posted? Haven’t seen any yet. 

Noodle3872 posted this one:

(S23 Playing Position)

 

Like I said, it doesn't look CRAZY different from the T series wedges.  The heel is higher, and the leading edge isn't as straight, but for the most part, I think it looks fine...just a touch bit bigger.

 

 (T22 Playing position)

 

Looks WAY BETTER THAN THIS (IMHO):

ES21

 

Back to the S23, I wouldn't say that the weight pad would shift the strike point of the wedge, but it puts the COG in a place where most people strike the face.  I know I am apt to strike the face in that spot.  Lessons might help...or I stink.

 

Both could be very true.

[badandbogey]

For those who game mizuno wedges, do you have a hard time with the club number not being on the sole? esp like in sunday bags where the irons tend to have less room?

[Bunkersarebigcups]

8 hours ago, Golf64 said:

Love everything about this wedge, design, grinds, but not a fan of the boron. Have hit Mizuno irons in the past with boron and felt a bit firm to me. i understand why they use it, but prefer a softer feel. Looking forward to testing them out when they come out.

The Boron irons always had thin-ish faces. Wedges with Boron did always feel good to me and the T22 (with copper underlay) feels sensational. So give these a try, they might positively surprise you

[Golf64]

That's the plan. 😉

[delacruz.c5d]

6 hours ago, badandbogey said:

For those who game mizuno wedges, do you have a hard time with the club number not being on the sole? esp like in sunday bags where the irons tend to have less room?

I'm not gonna lie...sometimes I pull the wrong club...even without the Sunday bag.  This includes the ol' 6 and 9 iron mix up.  Again, I need help.

 

That being said, I play 4 wedges: 45, 50, 55, and 60.  Sometimes I pull the 50 for the 60 an vice versa.  I have the blue T20's and somehow the color of the badging against the blue ion base makes the loft number hard to see at times.  However, it's pretty easy to look at it and say...that has too much/not enough loft for the 50/60 that I thought I pulled.

[The Mad Bomber]

6 hours ago, Bunkersarebigcups said:

The Boron irons always had thin-ish faces. Wedges with Boron did always feel good to me and the T22 (with copper underlay) feels sensational. So give these a try, they might positively surprise you

I have to agree with this. The T22's feel amazing and without the Boron, they'd only last half the year. I dumped all of my Vokeys as soon as I hit these and haven't looked back. They feel so much better than the SM 8's that I don't care to hit another Vokey for the foreseeable future.

[delacruz.c5d]

14 hours ago, Golf64 said:

Love everything about this wedge, design, grinds, but not a fan of the boron. Have hit Mizuno irons in the past with boron and felt a bit firm to me. i understand why they use it, but prefer a softer feel. Looking forward to testing them out when they come out.

I know you said that you would try them, which is good.

 

I understand your thought about the boron.  Admittedly, a buddy of mine have the S5s that I had a few generations of wedges ago, and that was the last wedge that didn't have the 1025 Boron.  Those things are so sweet and soft, and I keep joking with him that I'm gonna take them from him.

 

Can I tell the difference between the 1025E vs 1025 Boron.  Yeah.  Is it a HUGE amount...eh...not really.  To steal a phrase: "The boron steel It feels like a knife going through slightly cold butter, while the 1025E feels like a knife going through room temp butter".

 

Either way, it's butter.  Not quite as soft, but still better than a harder cast wedge.  And the grooves don't deteriorate as quickly.

[lefty1978]

On 8/31/2022 at 1:27 PM, badandbogey said:

For those who game mizuno wedges, do you have a hard time with the club number not being on the sole? esp like in sunday bags where the irons tend to have less room?

Honestly, I never had an issue with grabbing the wrong wedge. My bag is a 14 divider bag, I know exactly where each club goes, that may be why. 

[Cactus Jack]

On 8/22/2022 at 2:08 PM, jhoppmann said:

Looking forward to the T22s being discounted 😄

 

2nd Swing has mint, which are like new, T22s for $85 after the 15% discount. I bought four. 

[hammergolf]

On 8/30/2022 at 9:51 PM, noodle3872 said:

I haven’t come across in hand pics but there’s these product pics on Mizuno Japan. The extreme toe weighting is supposed to shift strike point.

They nailed in on the shape profile and leading edge! If I wasn’t in love with my CBX Zips is definitely be interested.

[Guest]

very interested in these the they come out

[nilopol]

These look great.  I think this will be a perfect transition from my 921 HMP's.  

[nilopol]

These look great.  I think this will be a perfect transition from my 921 HMP's.  

[MMB1500]

 

 

 

Edited September 16, 2022 by MMB1500

[Boognish]

Those cavities look fat. I'm cool with it, also creates separation from T line.

[Lemonde]

Thxs for sharing!

[MMB1500]

I actually like these. They look nice at address and don't mind the chunky element too much. Definitely a huge upgrade from the last S series wedges.

[DonOmar]

On 8/22/2022 at 9:57 AM, BagofToast said:

Would’ve used the T22s if the leading edge didn’t look like it was off the ground, maybe this is better 

Same. I loved the feel of the wedges when I tested them, but I can’t chip if the leading edge sits at the equator of the golf ball.  
Even the low bounce versions had a crazy tall leading edge. 

[Lemonde]

8 hours ago, DonOmar said:

Same. I loved the feel of the wedges when I tested them, but I can’t chip if the leading edge sits at the equator of the golf ball.  
Even the low bounce versions had a crazy tall leading edge. 

Agreed. A low bounce needs to be flush. I have struggled with liking recent Mizzy wedges.  Maybe this release will change things.  And I was a long time carrier of Mizuno wedges before my first set of irons, the JPX HMP OG.

[stevemac]

I too had the same issue with the bounce until I went with the 22 in the x.  It made all the difference.

[delacruz.c5d]

Has anyone else seen a North American release date?  I've noticed that all of the golf big box stores (PGATSS, GG, etc.) have the 923 JPX Forged and Tour info up on their websites, but there is still no mention of S23 wedge release.

 

Getting worried for my late Jan fitting...

[SollyinGA]

Love my T22s. Honestly not a big fan of the writing and bling.

 

I’m a huge Mizuno fan though so when my T22s dull, I may be forced to look at them.

[hammergolf]

I’ve always preferred the S Mizuno wedges to the T. Hopefully these get released in the US.

[Lemonde]

On 1/10/2023 at 9:09 AM, delacruz.c5d said:

Has anyone else seen a North American release date?  I've noticed that all of the golf big box stores (PGATSS, GG, etc.) have the 923 JPX Forged and Tour info up on their websites, but there is still no mention of S23 wedge release.

 

Getting worried for my late Jan fitting...

I thought the embargo date was this week for the woods and wedges?