2023 Maxfli Tour, Tour X and Tour S

[phil75070]

21 minutes ago, loc said:

What ball gave you longer yards? 

The Vice Pro and Pro Plus, and the Callaway ERC Soft are all longer for me.

[Mike_C]

After reading through this thread and having a buddy buy some and now he loves them, I bought the 4-dozen deal at Dicks of the Tour X.   I will have the winter time to test them out. 

 

Been a Srixon guy for years, before that a Bridgestone/Precept player, and way back played the old Maxfi's, back to the old wound Revolution and even the DDH, then on to the A10 (anyone remember that one?).  I've always been a bit of an anti-Titleist snob (but just did get 2 Titleist woods). Back when I was a kid, I played Wilson balls most of the time, not Titleist.

 

Haven't played with them yet, but hope they are similar to the Srixon XV I've been playing.   Can't beat the price for what seems to be the performance, but I usually get my Srixon's during their sales in the spring.

 

My biggest knock on the XV is the seam issue, and I do scar up the cover now and then with a wedge.  If the Tour X is similar that is OK; at least I'm not paying $55/dozen for them.....

[gioreeko]

20 hours ago, Mike_C said:

After reading through this thread and having a buddy buy some and now he loves them, I bought the 4-dozen deal at Dicks of the Tour X.   I will have the winter time to test them out. 

 

Been a Srixon guy for years, before that a Bridgestone/Precept player, and way back played the old Maxfi's, back to the old wound Revolution and even the DDH, then on to the A10 (anyone remember that one?).  I've always been a bit of an anti-Titleist snob (but just did get 2 Titleist woods). Back when I was a kid, I played Wilson balls most of the time, not Titleist.

 

Haven't played with them yet, but hope they are similar to the Srixon XV I've been playing.   Can't beat the price for what seems to be the performance, but I usually get my Srixon's during their sales in the spring.

 

My biggest knock on the XV is the seam issue, and I do scar up the cover now and then with a wedge.  If the Tour X is similar that is OK; at least I'm not paying $55/dozen for them.....

I've played the Srixon quite a bit too, the Maxfli is pretty comparable, I'd say a bit longer and a bit more durable (last version) I just got some of the new ones, will test them soon

[AzSuperHack76]

I was able to grab a dozen of the Maxifli Tour X with the Golf Galaxy deal. 

 

I would have never tried the ball before, but thought what the heck. 

 

What a great ball! I currently play the Prov1 X Left Dash, the Tour X hung with it in every aspect, just a great ball! Ran out a tad more on chips but that was easy an easy adjustment. 

[wantacigar]

OK, here it is.....

On a fluke played a Vice Pro Plus, My usual gamer is the Vice Pro.  The website states the Pro Plus is better for HIGHER swing speed players of 110 MPH!  I hit the Pro Plus and got my best and longest drive of the day!  My swing speed ranges 93-96 on a good day.  WTH!

I also game the Maxfli Tours as often as the Vice Pro and they are pretty much indistinguishable for my game.  I use whichever one has the better deal at the time I need to get balls.  

I've never tried the Maxfli Tour-X.  For those out there with the "mid-range" swing speeds out there that have played the Tour-X what differences have you noticed, if any?

I'm going to try a dozen Tour-X but don't know if I'll be able to get out to play much longer here in the Northeast.  Just curious about how they perform with the mid level swing speeds

[leftyb]

At the Father's Day sale back in May I picked up a couple dozen Maxflis. At that price I'd buy them again. 

 

But, to go on about the Vice Pro / Pro Plus - I have never bought any but find them frequently (although usually I'm finding them because I'm searching for my ball as well!). Finished a round with a Pro Plus and loved it. Even texted a bud about how awesome it was. And then I look on the website and it's the exact opposite ball for my game, yet I hit it further and spun it better. 

 

Go figure...I'm thinking it's my specific charateristics of swing speed (95 driver), launch angle, attack angle with the irons, etc. I think they look at, I don't know, 50 golfers on a trackman and determine which golfer types benefits most from that ball. Still have a sleeve or two of the Maxfli balls and will be getting some Vice to replace them, but then again I'm sure I'll find more of them as I'm bushwhacking looking for my own

[JohnnyO3478]

3 hours ago, wantacigar said:

OK, here it is.....

On a fluke played a Vice Pro Plus, My usual gamer is the Vice Pro.  The website states the Pro Plus is better for HIGHER swing speed players of 110 MPH!  I hit the Pro Plus and got my best and longest drive of the day!  My swing speed ranges 93-96 on a good day.  WTH!

I also game the Maxfli Tours as often as the Vice Pro and they are pretty much indistinguishable for my game.  I use whichever one has the better deal at the time I need to get balls.  

I've never tried the Maxfli Tour-X.  For those out there with the "mid-range" swing speeds out there that have played the Tour-X what differences have you noticed, if any?

I'm going to try a dozen Tour-X but don't know if I'll be able to get out to play much longer here in the Northeast.  Just curious about how they perform with the mid level swing speeds

The problem I'd have comitting to either the VPP or MTX - is that Foremost seems to struggle making a 4 pc ball that has consistent compression - so you never know what you are going to get.  They seem to do fine making the 3 pc balls, though.  

[phil75070]

52 minutes ago, JohnnyO3478 said:

The problem I'd have comitting to either the VPP or MTX - is that Foremost seems to struggle making a 4 pc ball that has consistent compression - so you never know what you are going to get.  They seem to do fine making the 3 pc balls, though.  

If you look at the ball tests, the Pro and Pro plus are almost interchangeable. The Plus is very lightly longer off the driver, while the Pro makes up for that off the irons. Spin is extremely close. Plus is a little higher launch,

[JohnnyO3478]

42 minutes ago, phil75070 said:

If you look at the ball tests, the Pro and Pro plus are almost interchangeable. The Plus is very lightly longer off the driver, while the Pro makes up for that off the irons. Spin is extremely close. Plus is a little higher launch,

I am speaking to the reliability and consistency of the production - not the performance of the balls that were tested by the robots. VPP and MTX performed poorly in their respective Ball Lab tests. The reason for the low scores was mostly due to a wide range of compression values for the test sets.  If you get a good one - I am sure it will act fine on the course.

[Ger21]

1 hour ago, phil75070 said:

If you look at the ball tests, the Pro and Pro plus are almost interchangeable.

The Pro is noticeably softer. But I find the Pro Plus to be on the softer side for a 4 piece ball.

[Ger21]

1 hour ago, JohnnyO3478 said:

The reason for the low scores was mostly due to a wide range of compression values for the test sets.  If you get a good one - I am sure it will act fine on the course.

I've gone through about 8 dozen Pro Plus in the last 2 years, and  have not had one ball that felt different from the others. And I can definitely tell the difference between the Pro Plus and Pro, or Pro Plus and ProV1.

[JohnnyO3478]

36 minutes ago, Ger21 said:

I've gone through about 8 dozen Pro Plus in the last 2 years, and  have not had one ball that felt different from the others. And I can definitely tell the difference between the Pro Plus and Pro, or Pro Plus and ProV1.

Interesting.

[phil75070]

2 hours ago, JohnnyO3478 said:

I am speaking to the reliability and consistency of the production - not the performance of the balls that were tested by the robots. VPP and MTX performed poorly in their respective Ball Lab tests. The reason for the low scores was mostly due to a wide range of compression values for the test sets.  If you get a good one - I am sure it will act fine on the course.

What I am trying to point out is, if you have an issue with the Pro Plus because it is a 4-piece ball that may suffer from inconsistencies, be it compression or otherwise, the Pro is a three-piece alternative that is practically interchangeable performance-wise per the ball tests.

[cardigan]

5 minutes ago, phil75070 said:

What I am trying to point out is, if you have an issue with the Pro Plus because it is a 4-piece ball that may suffer from inconsistencies, be it compression or otherwise, the Pro is a three-piece alternative that is practically interchangeable performance-wise per the ball tests.

The sample size they use for their ball labs just isn't large enough for me to put that much stock in them.  If one box out of two (older tests) or three (more recent tests) is firmer than the other(s), that doesn't mean 50 out of 100 (or 33 out 100) boxes are going to be firmer than the others.  By the same token, two out of two boxes or three out of three boxes being consistent with each other doesn't mean that 100 out of 100 boxes are going to be consistent with each other.

[JohnnyO3478]

10 minutes ago, phil75070 said:

What I am trying to point out is, if you have an issue with the Pro Plus because it is a 4-piece ball that may suffer from inconsistencies, be it compression or otherwise, the Pro is a three-piece alternative that is practically interchangeable performance-wise per the ball tests.

Ah, good point.  With that little difference btw the two - it makes little sense to not pick the one that's more likely to be well made.

 

 

[Mike_C]

Played a couple of times now with the Tour  X.   Overall, OK, but cover shredded badly on a couple of full wedges and nicked up in general quite a bit.  Feel was not as firm as I expected given the stated compression; the Srixon XV feels much firmer to me, but that could be due to a softer cover that, as I said, I just tore up on a few shots.  Distance seemed in line off the tee, maybe a tiny bit shorter off my irons. 

 

Would not pay full price for them, but on sale not a bad ball for casual rounds.  Can't see me ever playing a full 18 with them without having to switch one out. 

 

[Phabs]

On 11/6/2023 at 9:03 AM, Mike_C said:

Played a couple of times now with the Tour  X.   Overall, OK, but cover shredded badly on a couple of full wedges and nicked up in general quite a bit.  Feel was not as firm as I expected given the stated compression; the Srixon XV feels much firmer to me, but that could be due to a softer cover that, as I said, I just tore up on a few shots.  Distance seemed in line off the tee, maybe a tiny bit shorter off my irons. 

 

Would not pay full price for them, but on sale not a bad ball for casual rounds.  Can't see me ever playing a full 18 with them without having to switch one out. 

 

Similar experience here 

[HeadCovered]

Been playing Tour X all year.

Best balls for price versus performance and durability compared to the same Tour type balls from the others. 

I was playing TP5x for years prior to last year, and then tried the XV for about half a year last year.

I find the Tour X straighter and easier to hit than the other 2.

The cover of the XV is terrible, doesn't last 7 holes, you'll be swapping that out all the time. Really expensive in that respect. It was so expensive. 

TP5X had balance problems sometimes, as proven by all the guys who have cut the balls in half out there, as I found myself that some balls all of a sudden fly like range balls without dimples and just sort of knuckle out of nowhere. 

 

Tour X is extremely easy to hit for me, I'm at 165 ballspeed, I find it punches out very nicely. 

I have had no problems with the all around game, it's all the same, the only difference is the durability compared to those others, sure it gets scuffed a bit, but it's nowhere near as the huge gash like on the XV, and the unpredictable flight I was getting with the TP5X are too expensive for what you pay. 

 

So for cost-effectiveness with no drop off in play, these are the best balls for the price.

 

The secret is out now, huh lol

[cw1209]

Really enjoyed playing with the Tour. Plays like a higher flying Pro V1. A little less green side spin than I would like, but not bad. I don't lack the ability to generate spin and the conditions I play on don't require anything more than what I can get with the Tour. Not short either. As long as anything else out there, except the high compression "X" balls. Had no durability issues. I normally play a Bridgestone BX which is a bit longer off the tee, a little shorter in irons (higher spin), and significantly higher greenside spin. I like the Maxfli Better than Vice, or anything else in the DTC category. Solid ball for the price. 

[absoludicrous]

11 minutes ago, cw1209 said:

Really enjoyed playing with the Tour. Plays like a higher flying Pro V1. A little less green side spin than I would like, but not bad. I don't lack the ability to generate spin and the conditions I play on don't require anything more than what I can get with the Tour. Not short either. As long as anything else out there, except the high compression "X" balls. Had no durability issues. I normally play a Bridgestone BX which is a bit longer off the tee, a little shorter in irons (higher spin), and significantly higher greenside spin. I like the Maxfli Better than Vice, or anything else in the DTC category. Solid ball for the price. 

I agree with everything you said. I still prefer my BX, but on those days the wheels fall off I’d rather play these when the little extra performance doesn’t matter. Perfect backup balls for me.

[gioreeko]

First round with the Tour X yellow yesterday. Since I had a stroke a few months ago, they want to monitor my heart with an implantable loop recorder, so it's only been 2 weeks with it in, so I was swinging at about 50 percent, so take it with a grain of salt. I had a few drives of 270 plus, with a long of around 285 or so. My normal big drives are around 320 and up, so I really liked the distance I was getting with easy swings. I was taking an extra club on my approach shots, and just trying to make good contact without jarring my chest too much. The ball was good at checking up with a little backspin, very controllable, and the overall distance was very good. The Santa Ana winds kicked up, and I hit my best drive of the day, about 260 up hill with little to no run out, and dead straight into a pretty decent wind. I even outdrove my 31 year old son on that one, which was really surprising for not really swinging with any force. The ball looked really good, one tree smack and a few bunker shots, and just had a really tiny scuff, but nothing to make me put it away. I was a huge fan of the last generation Tour X, and I feel pretty much the same with this one. 

[JohnnyO3478]

I decided to do some White v Yellow Maxfli Tour testing last night in my home sim/launch monitor (MLM2Pro, Spornia Net, SigPro Softy mat).  I hit a bunch of 50 mph wedge shots - alternating yellow and white every few shots or so.  I found that there's no discernible difference in ball speed, launch angle or spin rate on well struck shots.  The balls all seemed to launch in the 33 degree range - and spin in the mid 6000s off a PXG 58 degree 0311 Forged wedge.  

 

Then I busted out the spray bottle to see how they fare in wet conditions:

 

While I expected higher launch and lower spin - I did not expect THAT MUCH higher launch and THAT LOWER a spin rate.  Both balls were coming off the face at I'd say and average of 43 degrees (scary steep if you do not have a padded ceiling, I'd imagine).  And here is where you can tell a difference.  The wet white ball spin rate was noticably lower than the yellow ball spin rate - probably an average of almost 1000 rpm.  The white balls were spinning in the mid 2000s and the yellows were often 3300 and up.

 

None of my testing was all that scientific (I didn't control for the amount of water introduced per shot - one spritz of the ball, one on the club face per shot, for example) - but I'd say that directionally I got actual results you can use - if every rpm matters to you.  

 

I'd like to repeat the test with a wedge that has some water repelling tech built into the design.  My buddy has some T22s - so maybe I can corral him over one evening.

[Tanner25]

Does anyone else smell a distinct odor of chemicals when opening a new box of these? Seems weird to me.

[Mike_C]

Another follow up after 2 rounds this weekend with the Tour X.  Played a different set of irons, and the cover seemed to hold up better.   Maybe the groves on the set of TCBs I had were really fresh, but I played a set of like new Mizuno JPX 923 forged and didn't get the shearing on any short irons that I had on the Callaways.

 

Also hit some really nice/long tee balls, can't knock this ball for distance at all off the tee.

[absoludicrous]

1 hour ago, Tanner25 said:

Does anyone else smell a distinct odor of chemicals when opening a new box of these? Seems weird to me.

I thought I remembered last models with the same smell. But yes, mine were pretty strong after opening. 

[Phabs]

On 11/13/2023 at 9:25 AM, Tanner25 said:

Does anyone else smell a distinct odor of chemicals when opening a new box of these? Seems weird to me.

They stink a little - nothing crazy to me 

[bgfgolf]

I’ve played two boxes of the tour and then two boxes of the tour x. Came from playing prov1. Both are very comparable and quite frankly skill level is going to be the limiting factor. My driver clubhead speed is around 105 and I hit my 7 iron 160-165. I’m a 5, so I’m not a long hitter. The tour x spin a little more off wedges, but the tour is by no means a low spin ball. For the money, very difficult for me to justify the pro v1 over the Maxfli. $55 v $35. One thing, the Maxflis fly higher than the pro v1 off the driver. Hard to tell any difference off my irons.

 

if money were no consideration, I’d probably play pro v1 yellow.

[zap311]

FYI - Maxfli Tour 48-Pack on sale for $100 for Black Friday. Best deal since they launched the new models. 

[gluestick]

On 11/13/2023 at 10:22 AM, JohnnyO3478 said:

I decided to do some White v Yellow Maxfli Tour testing last night in my home sim/launch monitor (MLM2Pro, Spornia Net, SigPro Softy mat).  I hit a bunch of 50 mph wedge shots - alternating yellow and white every few shots or so.  I found that there's no discernible difference in ball speed, launch angle or spin rate on well struck shots.  The balls all seemed to launch in the 33 degree range - and spin in the mid 6000s off a PXG 58 degree 0311 Forged wedge.  

 

Then I busted out the spray bottle to see how they fare in wet conditions:

 

While I expected higher launch and lower spin - I did not expect THAT MUCH higher launch and THAT LOWER a spin rate.  Both balls were coming off the face at I'd say and average of 43 degrees (scary steep if you do not have a padded ceiling, I'd imagine).  And here is where you can tell a difference.  The wet white ball spin rate was noticably lower than the yellow ball spin rate - probably an average of almost 1000 rpm.  The white balls were spinning in the mid 2000s and the yellows were often 3300 and up.

 

None of my testing was all that scientific (I didn't control for the amount of water introduced per shot - one spritz of the ball, one on the club face per shot, for example) - but I'd say that directionally I got actual results you can use - if every rpm matters to you.  

 

I'd like to repeat the test with a wedge that has some water repelling tech built into the design.  My buddy has some T22s - so maybe I can corral him over one evening.

What are you using to mark your balls for your MLM? How is it working for you?

[Ger21]

On 11/19/2023 at 4:32 PM, zap311 said:

FYI - Maxfli Tour 48-Pack on sale for $100 for Black Friday. Best deal since they launched the new models. 

Just a heads up. If you filter for sale price, only the white balls in 48 packs show up. But if you put 4 dozen yellow balls in your cart, you still get them for $99.99. And you can also buy any quantity above 4 dozen for $24.99/dozen, so you can get 5 for $125, or 6 for $150. Time to stock up.