Fujikura Axiom, anyone hit these yet?

[Yzmerf]

Anyone SS the 125 yet? Im really on the line between S and X but want a smoother feel. I do better with heavier shafts so im thinking of SS the 125, maybe even twice. I picked up a set of Cobra King forged  at a great price with the intention of building my perfect set the shafts are wrong but for the price i got them I don't really care. These are the best looking set i have seen to my eye for every club in the bag. Now on to the shaft. Its down to these, The DART 5 120 or the MTT 125. The dart is the only ones i dont have to SS though.

[Andygolderson]

4 hours ago, Yzmerf said:

Anyone SS the 125 yet? Im really on the line between S and X but want a smoother feel. I do better with heavier shafts so im thinking of SS the 125, maybe even twice. I picked up a set of Cobra King forged  at a great price with the intention of building my perfect set the shafts are wrong but for the price i got them I don't really care. These are the best looking set i have seen to my eye for every club in the bag. Now on to the shaft. Its down to these, The DART 5 120 or the MTT 125. The dart is the only ones i dont have to SS though.

i tried a 4iron before from my friend, it felt very strange, quite stout and heavy actually, but that could have been the random head on it.

 

I like the smooth feel of the 125x, as it is. Soft stepping it might make it feel more stiff , towards the same kind of feeling towards MMT.

 

The MMT for me, was way too oardy feeling and everything came out very low.

[vandyfan]

On 5/27/2024 at 4:58 PM, JD3 said:

One thing I will say however is that THIS IS NOT A STOUT feeling shaft as many have advertised. I had to tip it another 1/2" to play between S and X. Did the same with the Ventus Red in my fairway.

 

I would agree. I played a KBS Tour 120 Stiff and then FST 125 Stiff and when I went to a fitting I got put into a 125X in the Axiom and didn't really notice or feel like it was STOUT and I have never played X flex in my life in anything. 

Edited June 13, 2024 by vandyfan

[PV_5]

Hey guys looking to move from the PX LS 6.5 (125g) into the Axiom 125x. Has anyone here hit both? The LS are a bit too low launch / spin for me so looking for something to bump both up. Also considering the PX 6.5 LZ and X100.

[JD3]

Just now, PV_5 said:

Hey guys looking to move from the PX LS 6.5 (125g) into the Axiom 125x. Has anyone here hit both? The LS are a bit too low launch / spin for me so looking for something to bump both up. Also considering the PX 6.5 LZ and X100.

Funny I was discussing the axiom with a club pro who's being sponsored by one of the major OEMs. He plays PX6.5 but wanted to switch to Axiom 125's after a session on the launch monitor. He didn't because his sponsor didn't offer it as an option to their pros. 

[jt2gt]

Ive got a srixon combo on 105s and definitely not as stout as a Steelfiber 95 or 110 stiff.  Feels like a 105 version of a SF 95r to me with a bit better feeling kick or a tighter feeling recoil stiff. 

[captwilks67]

Im in between the 105x and 125x myself. 

Play best in a modus 120x and a Oban 115x. I am curious if people have noticed the 125x doesnt feel as heavy as it is stated? my tempo is moderate with a swing speed of 92-95 mph. 

 

I have heard so many mixed messages around the 125x. some say its to stout and others say its not stout at all. I am guessing that has to do with tempo. 

 

thoughts?

[MiloMalt]

10 hours ago, captwilks67 said:

Im in between the 105x and 125x myself. 

Play best in a modus 120x and a Oban 115x. I am curious if people have noticed the 125x doesnt feel as heavy as it is stated? my tempo is moderate with a swing speed of 92-95 mph. 

 

I have heard so many mixed messages around the 125x. some say its to stout and others say its not stout at all. I am guessing that has to do with tempo. 

 

thoughts?

I'm in the same boat as you as I'm unsure whether the 105x will be too light for me. I play Modus 120x with a 7i swing speed around 93mph. I have just purchased a 105x axiom shaft to try out as I'm looking to relieve some shoulder pain I've been dealing with. It might be a week or two until I've got the club built up but can provide my thoughts once I've hit it.

Edited June 4, 2024 by MiloMalt

[captwilks67]

13 hours ago, MiloMalt said:

I'm in the same boat as you as I'm unsure whether the 105x will be too light for me. I play Modus 120x with a 7i swing speed around 93mph. I have just purchased a 105x axiom shaft to try out as I'm looking to relieve some shoulder pain I've been dealing with. It might be a week or two until I've got the club built up but can provide my thoughts once I've hit it.

Looking forward to your feedback. I ended up ordering a new set of irons from Will People's with the 105x. That's what he recommended so I stuck with it. Just trying to ease my overthinking mind haha. 

[Taz Kim]

After one year i am still very happy with my purchase.  I did some final tweaks and added a new club to replace my 5 iron. BBnF aluminum ferrules and new miura ic 602 5 iron.  Need some more height on my 5 iron.

 

[jamesons]

On 5/23/2024 at 1:27 PM, jamesons said:

I am in the process of switching to Axiom right now. I spent the last ~2yrs trying to find a new lightweight iron shaft including steel or graphite to improve ball speed and carry distance and swing speed (to a lesser degree) without comprising dispersion. Current irons (since 2018) are Srixon 7 series with PX Lz 6.0 shafts. My time is limited with work and young kids so I recently had The People's Club build me a demo Srixon ZX7 Blk Chrome 6i demo with Axiom 105S to expedite the process. 

 

I finally got a chance to hit the ZX7 the other day (with a Mevo+). I was barely loosened up and immediately saw approx +2.5 ball speed at equivalent SS and the carry distance increased 4-6y on average (176-77 to 181-82). My mishits had much better carry and my top end was no longer capped at ~180-181 -- I had 2 out of 14 swings recorded at 187 and 188y carry. My 6i SS is 90-93mph on any given day. Besides the improved ball speed and carry I was very impressed with the tight dispersion. I need more time to better comment on overall workability -- high/low, draw/fade, spin control. I hit enough to immediately email TPC approving the full 4-P build. 

 

Does it feel different than steel? Obviously yes, but that was to be expected. Going into the process I was very willing to give up the feel of steel if the ball speed and carry increased while maintaining consistent peak height, spin, decent angle and dispersion. I previously hit several shafts in the 85-115 range including both steel and graphite (all in 7 series or ZX7 head). 

 

Everyone is different so the Axiom might not work for you, but IMO they're definitely worth a try if you are wanting or needing a lightweight iron shaft. Cheers!

 

JS 

 

I am beyond excited and can’t thank Will and TPC enough for turning these beauties around so quickly!! I know they’ll be game changers for me. 
 

 

[STEWscot8]

Playing 105s soft stepped in Callaway AI Smoke HL Irons, tried multiple other graphite options during testing and these were by far the best performing for me.

[vandyfan]

Well I did it, took one of the most affordable heads you can buy and put it with one of the most expensive iron shafts you can buy. Haven't hit it yet but it looks very cool. Highly suggest logo down on these. 

Edited June 13, 2024 by vandyfan

[Southside Seminole]

On 6/13/2024 at 11:03 AM, vandyfan said:

Well I did it, took one of the most affordable heads you can buy and put it with one of the most expensive iron shafts you can buy. Haven't hit it yet but it looks very cool. Highly suggest logo down on these. 

How’s it feel? I have axioms in mizunos & they’re fantastic. The Maltbys intrigue me tho for sure. Sounds like the perfect head to balance the shaft pricing. 

[vandyfan]

On 6/15/2024 at 9:11 PM, Southside Seminole said:

How’s it feel? I have axioms in mizunos & they’re fantastic. The Maltbys intrigue me tho for sure. Sounds like the perfect head to balance the shaft pricing. 

 

Interesting you should ask because I tested them with a Mizuno Pro 243 head (also tried out Blueprint S, P770, Apex CB, Zx7, JPX Tour). I would say, for me, the Mizuno Pro 243 head feels better. The TS1-IM feels fine, no problems for me, and the addition of the graphite shaft makes it much less harsh at impact. All that said, I am sticking with the TS1-IM because they work great for me but if I had unlimited money I would probably get the Mizuno Pro 243 heads. Numbers were similar with the Mizuno Pro 243 doing a *little* more of what I want. So now I will just dream about them but, on course, it would be hard to see a massive difference. The Maltbys are still a great club and I like them better than all the other clubs I tried above save the Mizuno Pros. 

[pb_n_joe]

On 5/27/2024 at 5:17 PM, Yzmerf said:

Anyone SS the 125 yet? Im really on the line between S and X but want a smoother feel. I do better with heavier shafts so im thinking of SS the 125, maybe even twice. I picked up a set of Cobra King forged  at a great price with the intention of building my perfect set the shafts are wrong but for the price i got them I don't really care. These are the best looking set i have seen to my eye for every club in the bag. Now on to the shaft. Its down to these, The DART 5 120 or the MTT 125. The dart is the only ones i dont have to SS though.

Anyone have feedback on Axiom 125x vs UST Dart V 120 F5? Haven't been able to test both head to head

[vandyfan]

Played my first full round with the Axioms (125X) this past weekend and wow, was very impressed. I normally "sling it" a little with my irons hitting a draw and these were just dead straight all day...which is great. Impact sensation was very soft/smooth which I greatly appreciate but I could still tell when I thinned one or otherwise not on the button vs a dead center strike. I didn't feel like I had my best stuff at all and still hit 15/18 greens. I started laying back on shorter par 4s so that I could hit more irons vs wedges. I also saw 3-4 yds more carry on avg across my irons and had to adjust mid round to all the sudden feeling like I had "juiced" mid irons. 

 

I am planning on playing my next round "irons only" so that I can really put these through the paces. I know everyone has different feels and needs from a shaft but I truly think anyone who plays a heavier shaft should at least try these. Also need a few range sessions to see if it was just beginner's luck. I did get fully fit into these so they should be an upgrade but this exceeded my expectations. 

[MiloMalt]

8 hours ago, vandyfan said:

Played my first full round with the Axioms (125X) this past weekend and wow, was very impressed. I normally "sling it" a little with my irons hitting a draw and these were just dead straight all day...which is great. Impact sensation was very soft/smooth which I greatly appreciate but I could still tell when I thinned one or otherwise not on the button vs a dead center strike. I didn't feel like I had my best stuff at all and still hit 15/18 greens. I started laying back on shorter par 4s so that I could hit more irons vs wedges. I also saw 3-4 yds more carry on avg across my irons and had to adjust mid round to all the sudden feeling like I had "juiced" mid irons. 

 

I am planning on playing my next round "irons only" so that I can really put these through the paces. I know everyone has different feels and needs from a shaft but I truly think anyone who plays a heavier shaft should at least try these. Also need a few range sessions to see if it was just beginner's luck. I did get fully fit into these so they should be an upgrade but this exceeded my expectations. 

Sounds like they work really well for you. What iron shafts did you play prior to Axiom?

[captwilks67]

My KM700's with Axiom 105x's came in and WOW.... at D2-D4, I am thoroughly impressed. they don't feel as light as they are. its a perfect set for myself. 

I was skeptical of the set being to light, though I am now locked in. some of my best iron shots this season has been with this set. and that's after one round. 

I will keep testing and playing, but its safe to say these wont be coming out of the bag for a very long time.. 

 

 

Now if I can just get ahold of a GT3 Driver, GT2 3W, GT2 3H, and a T200 4U, I will be a happy man. 

[MiloMalt]

I hit my Axiom shafted 7 iron 3 times in my round over the weekend. I wasn't playing my best but the 3 7 irons I hit were all flushed... Gonna make the decision to buy a single 125x shaft or a full set of 105x shafts after tonight's range session.

[vandyfan]

14 hours ago, MiloMalt said:

Sounds like they work really well for you. What iron shafts did you play prior to Axiom?

 

In my prior iron set I played KBS 120 Stiff and then in the Maltbys I determined shafts were not that important for some reason so I went with the FST 125 Stiff (budget KBS line). I have also tinkered with and liked the Nippon Modus 130X. I would say I had decent results with the FST 125 S but they were really starting to hurt my elbow. That is what prompted the switch to graphite. The Axioms just give a really soft sensation at impact and, again, don't feel boardy at all to me. Very smooth but stable. Compared to Steelfibers and the LA Golf shaft, these are much more comfortable. This just made my TS1-IMs that much better and now I wish there was a 125 Stiff Axiom that I could put in my wedges. 

[MiloMalt]

On 7/2/2024 at 12:35 PM, captwilks67 said:

My KM700's with Axiom 105x's came in and WOW.... at D2-D4, I am thoroughly impressed. they don't feel as light as they are. its a perfect set for myself. 

I was skeptical of the set being to light, though I am now locked in. some of my best iron shots this season has been with this set. and that's after one round. 

I will keep testing and playing, but its safe to say these wont be coming out of the bag for a very long time.. 

 

 

Now if I can just get ahold of a GT3 Driver, GT2 3W, GT2 3H, and a T200 4U, I will be a happy man. 

Loving the sound of that!

 

Did you get yours built with the Parallel tip or Taper tip versions of the shaft?

[captwilks67]

22 hours ago, MiloMalt said:

Loving the sound of that!

 

Did you get yours built with the Parallel tip or Taper tip versions of the shaft?

something I did not know, but they are actually one in the same. the difference is the taper tips have been prepped by Fujikura from a parallel tip 

[vandyfan]

8 minutes ago, captwilks67 said:

something I did not know, but they are actually one in the same. the difference is the taper tips have been prepped by Fujikura from a parallel tip 

 

That makes sense. When I asked my fitter if we were doing the parallel or taper he was like "they are only in parallel" but what I think he meant was what is being quoted above. The parallels are split into LP/MP/SP with the LP going with the 2-4 irons, MP going in the 5-7 and the SP going 8-W. They supposedly have slightly different profiles to be optimized with the various clubs they go with. I only go down to a 5 iron so I only really have experience with the MP and the SP. 

[captwilks67]

11 minutes ago, vandyfan said:

 

That makes sense. When I asked my fitter if we were doing the parallel or taper he was like "they are only in parallel" but what I think he meant was what is being quoted above. The parallels are split into LP/MP/SP with the LP going with the 2-4 irons, MP going in the 5-7 and the SP going 8-W. They supposedly have slightly different profiles to be optimized with the various clubs they go with. I only go down to a 5 iron so I only really have experience with the MP and the SP. 

same here, though I do want a 4 utility. thinking about a T200 though with a AD DI 95 driving iron since its hard as hell to get the axioms 

[captwilks67]

for anyone who could be wondering, my BST is revoked due to the silly rules in this forum. So many limits and rules 

[noodle3872]

I still think this just a weird way to produce a taper tip shaft. 
 

Axiom Shaft Specs
 

 

Edited July 4, 2024 by noodle3872

[MiloMalt]

Are we sure that is how they are producing the taper tip version? Has Fujikura confirmed that because the graphics of the taper tip version remains the same length from the tip whereas if they were just prepping them from the parallel version the graphics wouldn't be the same length from tip? I don't know how responsive @Fujikura Golf are on here but maybe they can confirm?

Edited July 4, 2024 by MiloMalt

[noodle3872]

4 minutes ago, MiloMalt said:

Are we sure that is how they are producing the taper tip version? Has Fujikura confirmed that because the graphics of the taper tip version remains the same length from the tip whereas if they were just prepping them from the parallel version the graphics wouldn't be the same length from tip? 

Based on the note at the bottom of the TT specs, I would say Fuji is doing the tip trimming and tapering in house. The slight variation in weight is another clue. 

Edited July 4, 2024 by noodle3872

[DasTanK]

On 6/17/2024 at 3:59 PM, pb_n_joe said:

Anyone have feedback on Axiom 125x vs UST Dart V 120 F5? Haven't been able to test both head to head

Interested as well