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On 6/22/2023 at 12:47 PM, knudson81 said:

 

I just got my Axiom 105s in and narrowing down what iron set I am installing them in. I have the Fuji Pro 115s in my T100 irons and when I was out in Carlsbad played with a set of Mizuno Pro 225 with Axiom 105s. My initial thoughts, and one one round and some range time, is that the Axiom launched just a little bit lower and was a little harder to turn over. The first few shots on course I hit really solid but was right of the green because I wasn't releasing the club. Fujikura said that is what they are seeing from players when they first start hitting them, takes a few shots to trust turning it over and hitting it straight. The Axiom feel just a little more solid and seem to soften up the vibration just a touch more than the Pro. 

 

I will have some more on them shortly, as soon as I get them built up!

Interesting . I have the 115's in my Titleist irons. I love them. How was spin between the two? You had no issues with the drop in weight? 

 

I really have no want to change. Just wondering. I can't imagine the Axiom is going to give such a huge noticable performance gain. 

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On 7/18/2023 at 9:33 PM, mizuno player said:

Interesting . I have the 115's in my Titleist irons. I love them. How was spin between the two? You had no issues with the drop in weight? 

 

I really have no want to change. Just wondering. I can't imagine the Axiom is going to give such a huge noticable performance gain. 

 

For me there was no issue going to the lighter 105 and I actually swing the 5-6 irons better with the lighter shafts. Launch is still a touch lower from the Axiom for me spin just a few hundred RPM more, but it is pretty close.

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On 7/20/2023 at 7:31 AM, knudson81 said:

 

For me there was no issue going to the lighter 105 and I actually swing the 5-6 irons better with the lighter shafts. Launch is still a touch lower from the Axiom for me spin just a few hundred RPM more, but it is pretty close.

I've noticed the long irons definitely launching a little lower for me as well (5-6 iron), but could definitely be me too.

 

I've gotten two solid rounds out since having the Axioms fully installed now and finally figured out how to play the curve (or lack thereof).  When you have played the same iron set since early 2016, there's definitely going to be an adjustment period.  I've been very impressed the last few rounds.  The Ventus TR Red 6S has been a game-changer for me.  Distance seems to be the same, but it is the accuracy that has dropped my scores.  Mishits that would have normally been completely out of play are now findable.  Purchased the Ventus TR Red 7S for my 3W and am giving that a try, but so far so good!  The big stand outs to me is the GIR increase.  That's where my game needs to be since my short game isn't the best and when I start missing greens, I don't have a solid short game to rely on. 

 

The other game changer for me was putting graphite 115s in my wedges.  My up and down ability has skyrocketed.  I had previously "dumped" or "fatted" a lot of pitches and chips to the point where I was putting it wherever I could.  I feel so much more confident because I don't feel that "droop" with the wedges where it feels like it falls into the turf.  Whether it is real or perceived, it shows up on the scorecard.  Also, the fitting that was done was so involved, Andrew's suggestions for a ball change has helped a great deal.  I would have never considered myself a "low spin" player, but I think by going to the Paradym a ball change was needed.  I was playing the ProV1x and the TP5x, but between Andrew's and Chris' suggestions to use the Ball Fitting by Ping, I was fit into the Chrome Soft X and really saw a benefit in performance.  

 

The two rounds this weekend were a really good representation.  Played at two local courses here:  Kearney Hills & Connemara. 

 

Kearney I'd say is my home course as it is less than 5 minutes away from the house.  A Pete and P.B. Dye Course that was playing about 6,700 from the 4 tees on Friday.  They just had a tournament the day before so they kept all the pin positions.  Definitely a challenge.  The course has played wet all year since we've had a ton of rain and the green are very large, but clearly divided so you have to hit the right "quadrant" of the green in order to score.  

 

Had one of my better ball striking days after figuring out the correct start lines to go with on the irons.  As I showed the with the data prior to install, my GIR was averaging around 45% wiht a high of 56% and a low of 28% (that was a rough day).  The last round at Kearney was 72%.  I hit all greens on the front and noticed myself getting a little loose on the back.  However, for me, the back side is SUCH a struggle for me.  Holes don't set up well for my eyes and I tend to tense up.

 

But, even with the 4/9 greens on the back, they were all playable.

 

10- Missed long-left (pull on my part since I saw a snake coming sliding through the fairway)

11- Hit; 20 feet

12- Hit; 25 feet

13- Missed long-left (slight pull and wind grabbed it left)

14-Hit; Par 5 had to turn into a 3-shot hole due to being in between clubs; 52* wedge with Pro 115s; 15 feet

15- Missed long-left (slight pull and wind grabbed it left)

16- Missed; Tee shot in rough and should have played for the jumper, but didn't; Missed 30 yards over target and couldn't get up and down, but on line with pin

17- NEMESIS HOLE- short-ish par 4 from tee box; Used DHY to find fairway and then mishit 8 iron into bunker; was able to get up & down

18- Hit; 15 feet with 56* Pro 115s

 

Played the next day at Connemara and enjoyed it as well.  Course is relatively open on the tee shots, but priority is keeping it in play.  Greens are significantly smaller than my home course and the edges are more sloped.  Priority is middle of the green approaches.  Fairways are much, much tighter so FIR typically drops from my normal courses, but balls out of play (that don't find the 3 foot fescue) are completely playable and sometimes the lines are better to the greens than in the fairway.  Course plays 6,566 from the back tees.  This has become a real treat to play.  Each hole is is definitely unique.  The areas around the green really offer unique opportunities to play different shots.  I wouldn't say similar to a British Open style of around the green, but close.  Lots of awkward chips and putts to crowned greens that require you to play the ball down versus flying it there and stopping.

 

Only 2/13 fairways hit, but that course can typically play like hitting a golf ball to a popsicle stick in a field.  No lost balls, even mishits were kept in play (fought my swing on the back 9 and had a shank with an 8-iron approach creep in on an uncomfortable approach).  GIR was up compared to average at 50% on significantly smaller greens.  A good handful of missed GIRs resulted in putting off the collars, which is WAY more preferable than chipping.  Course actually reversed their 9s last year and imporved pace of play significantly as the 1st two holes are reachable par 5s back-to-back with blind tee shots.

 

10- Miss; Pushed 8 iron right, but pin high

11- Miss; Slightly thin 9 iron, but able to get up and down

12- Hit; Proud of this one; Drive 285, topped the daylights out of a 3W and left with 195 6-iron; Hit green and two-putted for par from 30 feet

13- Miss; Misjudged wind and 6-iron came up short; Able to get up and down

14- Miss- hit 8 iron pin-high hard and rolled into collection area long right, but able to get up and down

15- Hit 7-iron from fescue to green on par 5; two-putted from 45 feet for birdie

16- Hit, but three putted; Green seemed a little slower than others

17-  Hit; PW to 10 feet, burned the lip on birdie putt, 

18- Miss; Hit 8 iron pin high right; Didn't get any wind help to bring it back; Had to draw around a tree from the left tee ball, but unable to curve;  putted from rough and thrilled with result

1- Hit; 6-iron approach on par 5 slightly short; Up and down for birdie

2- Hit; par 5 into 3 shot hole

3- Miss; Pin high right, unable to get up and down

4- Nightmare hole; blocked tee shot into 3rd hole, punched out, DHY to pin high right, couldn't get up and down

5- Hit; Pin high 25 feet

6- Miss; 8 iron shank on uncomfortable approach

7- Miss; 9 iron short on more wind than thought; Up and down

8- Hit; 56* to 15 feet and made birdie

9- Hit; PW to 30 feet and two-putted

 

I've got a good amount of golf coming up this next week.  My father-in-law and his good friend are coming up and then there's an annual golf trip the week after.  I also forgot that when I bought my wedges, Taylormade had an Arccos deal, so I got a set of sensors and the link belt tracker.  I've been wanting to understand my game more and hoping that the added stats will help!  I don't have a lot of detail on my short game, so not sure what goes wrong.  I've been using the Garmin since at least the S2 generation.

 

Friday- Huston Oaks Golf Course

Saturday- Day Off

Sunday- University of Kentucky= Big Blue Course

Monday- Lexington Country Club

Tuesday- Work

Wednesday- Work

Thursday- Golf Club of the Bluegrass (1st individual; 2nd 2-man scramble)

Friday-Kearney Hills ((1st individual; 2nd 2-man scramble)

Saturday- Huston Oaks Golf (1st individual; 2nd 2-man scramble)

Sunday- University of Kentucky- Wildcat Course

 

 

 

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On 7/24/2023 at 9:10 AM, CactusGolf said:

I've noticed the long irons definitely launching a little lower for me as well (5-6 iron), but could definitely be me too.

 

I've gotten two solid rounds out since having the Axioms fully installed now and finally figured out how to play the curve (or lack thereof).  When you have played the same iron set since early 2016, there's definitely going to be an adjustment period.  I've been very impressed the last few rounds.  The Ventus TR Red 6S has been a game-changer for me.  Distance seems to be the same, but it is the accuracy that has dropped my scores.  Mishits that would have normally been completely out of play are now findable.  Purchased the Ventus TR Red 7S for my 3W and am giving that a try, but so far so good!  The big stand outs to me is the GIR increase.  That's where my game needs to be since my short game isn't the best and when I start missing greens, I don't have a solid short game to rely on. 

 

The other game changer for me was putting graphite 115s in my wedges.  My up and down ability has skyrocketed.  I had previously "dumped" or "fatted" a lot of pitches and chips to the point where I was putting it wherever I could.  I feel so much more confident because I don't feel that "droop" with the wedges where it feels like it falls into the turf.  Whether it is real or perceived, it shows up on the scorecard.  Also, the fitting that was done was so involved, Andrew's suggestions for a ball change has helped a great deal.  I would have never considered myself a "low spin" player, but I think by going to the Paradym a ball change was needed.  I was playing the ProV1x and the TP5x, but between Andrew's and Chris' suggestions to use the Ball Fitting by Ping, I was fit into the Chrome Soft X and really saw a benefit in performance.  

 

The two rounds this weekend were a really good representation.  Played at two local courses here:  Kearney Hills & Connemara. 

 

Kearney I'd say is my home course as it is less than 5 minutes away from the house.  A Pete and P.B. Dye Course that was playing about 6,700 from the 4 tees on Friday.  They just had a tournament the day before so they kept all the pin positions.  Definitely a challenge.  The course has played wet all year since we've had a ton of rain and the green are very large, but clearly divided so you have to hit the right "quadrant" of the green in order to score.  

 

Had one of my better ball striking days after figuring out the correct start lines to go with on the irons.  As I showed the with the data prior to install, my GIR was averaging around 45% wiht a high of 56% and a low of 28% (that was a rough day).  The last round at Kearney was 72%.  I hit all greens on the front and noticed myself getting a little loose on the back.  However, for me, the back side is SUCH a struggle for me.  Holes don't set up well for my eyes and I tend to tense up.

 

But, even with the 4/9 greens on the back, they were all playable.

 

10- Missed long-left (pull on my part since I saw a snake coming sliding through the fairway)

11- Hit; 20 feet

12- Hit; 25 feet

13- Missed long-left (slight pull and wind grabbed it left)

14-Hit; Par 5 had to turn into a 3-shot hole due to being in between clubs; 52* wedge with Pro 115s; 15 feet

15- Missed long-left (slight pull and wind grabbed it left)

16- Missed; Tee shot in rough and should have played for the jumper, but didn't; Missed 30 yards over target and couldn't get up and down, but on line with pin

17- NEMESIS HOLE- short-ish par 4 from tee box; Used DHY to find fairway and then mishit 8 iron into bunker; was able to get up & down

18- Hit; 15 feet with 56* Pro 115s

 

Played the next day at Connemara and enjoyed it as well.  Course is relatively open on the tee shots, but priority is keeping it in play.  Greens are significantly smaller than my home course and the edges are more sloped.  Priority is middle of the green approaches.  Fairways are much, much tighter so FIR typically drops from my normal courses, but balls out of play (that don't find the 3 foot fescue) are completely playable and sometimes the lines are better to the greens than in the fairway.  Course plays 6,566 from the back tees.  This has become a real treat to play.  Each hole is is definitely unique.  The areas around the green really offer unique opportunities to play different shots.  I wouldn't say similar to a British Open style of around the green, but close.  Lots of awkward chips and putts to crowned greens that require you to play the ball down versus flying it there and stopping.

 

Only 2/13 fairways hit, but that course can typically play like hitting a golf ball to a popsicle stick in a field.  No lost balls, even mishits were kept in play (fought my swing on the back 9 and had a shank with an 8-iron approach creep in on an uncomfortable approach).  GIR was up compared to average at 50% on significantly smaller greens.  A good handful of missed GIRs resulted in putting off the collars, which is WAY more preferable than chipping.  Course actually reversed their 9s last year and imporved pace of play significantly as the 1st two holes are reachable par 5s back-to-back with blind tee shots.

 

10- Miss; Pushed 8 iron right, but pin high

11- Miss; Slightly thin 9 iron, but able to get up and down

12- Hit; Proud of this one; Drive 285, topped the daylights out of a 3W and left with 195 6-iron; Hit green and two-putted for par from 30 feet

13- Miss; Misjudged wind and 6-iron came up short; Able to get up and down

14- Miss- hit 8 iron pin-high hard and rolled into collection area long right, but able to get up and down

15- Hit 7-iron from fescue to green on par 5; two-putted from 45 feet for birdie

16- Hit, but three putted; Green seemed a little slower than others

17-  Hit; PW to 10 feet, burned the lip on birdie putt, 

18- Miss; Hit 8 iron pin high right; Didn't get any wind help to bring it back; Had to draw around a tree from the left tee ball, but unable to curve;  putted from rough and thrilled with result

1- Hit; 6-iron approach on par 5 slightly short; Up and down for birdie

2- Hit; par 5 into 3 shot hole

3- Miss; Pin high right, unable to get up and down

4- Nightmare hole; blocked tee shot into 3rd hole, punched out, DHY to pin high right, couldn't get up and down

5- Hit; Pin high 25 feet

6- Miss; 8 iron shank on uncomfortable approach

7- Miss; 9 iron short on more wind than thought; Up and down

8- Hit; 56* to 15 feet and made birdie

9- Hit; PW to 30 feet and two-putted

 

I've got a good amount of golf coming up this next week.  My father-in-law and his good friend are coming up and then there's an annual golf trip the week after.  I also forgot that when I bought my wedges, Taylormade had an Arccos deal, so I got a set of sensors and the link belt tracker.  I've been wanting to understand my game more and hoping that the added stats will help!  I don't have a lot of detail on my short game, so not sure what goes wrong.  I've been using the Garmin since at least the S2 generation.

 

Friday- Huston Oaks Golf Course

Saturday- Day Off

Sunday- University of Kentucky= Big Blue Course

Monday- Lexington Country Club

Tuesday- Work

Wednesday- Work

Thursday- Golf Club of the Bluegrass (1st individual; 2nd 2-man scramble)

Friday-Kearney Hills ((1st individual; 2nd 2-man scramble)

Saturday- Huston Oaks Golf (1st individual; 2nd 2-man scramble)

Sunday- University of Kentucky- Wildcat Course

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, flyingwedges2 said:

Can we see a chart of distance / spin / dispersion of what was originally played and then the same with the new Fuji shafts?  That's the important information.

That’s posted on the early pages of the thread.

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9 hours ago, 3wood said:

LCC is awesome

I'm really looking forward to getting out there.  I've heard that it plays hard and is over 7,100 from the back.

 

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11 pages and counting…my head hurts just thinking about reading it all. 😂

 

Cutting to the chase: one iron set with Recoil 110 F4, one set with MMT 95S.  
Flight is lower with Recoils, and both are lower than I’d like.  I wonder if the 110 causes fatigue or slows me down on hot Texas days.

 

I play Ventus Red TR 6S Driver and 7S 3W.  76-78 6iron, 95-100 Driver for speeds…definitely a “tweener”.  Love the Ventus shafts, and want the same from my irons. 
 

Tell me what to do—>???
75R

75S

105S

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2 minutes ago, 968cab said:

11 pages and counting…my head hurts just thinking about reading it all. 😂

 

Cutting to the chase: one iron set with Recoil 110 F4, one set with MMT 95S.  
Flight is lower with Recoils, and both are lower than I’d like.  I wonder if the 110 causes fatigue or slows me down on hot Texas days.

 

I play Ventus Red TR 6S Driver and 7S 3W.  76-78 6iron, 95-100 Driver for speeds…definitely a “tweener”.  Love the Ventus shafts, and want the same from my irons. 
 

Tell me what to do—>???
75R

75S

105S

 

I'm thinking 105S fits better with your driver shaft weight if you're happy with it, and you could bend your irons a degree or two weaker if flight is still too low.

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On 7/26/2023 at 6:20 PM, 968cab said:

11 pages and counting…my head hurts just thinking about reading it all. 😂

 

Cutting to the chase: one iron set with Recoil 110 F4, one set with MMT 95S.  
Flight is lower with Recoils, and both are lower than I’d like.  I wonder if the 110 causes fatigue or slows me down on hot Texas days.

 

I play Ventus Red TR 6S Driver and 7S 3W.  76-78 6iron, 95-100 Driver for speeds…definitely a “tweener”.  Love the Ventus shafts, and want the same from my irons. 
 

Tell me what to do—>???
75R

75S

105S

If you want higher flight, I would recommend the 75S. All of the other guys hit it, and were amazed at how stable it was for a lighter shaft.

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On 7/26/2023 at 8:06 PM, flyingwedges2 said:

It needs to be the first post. I'm not sifting through the pages to find the information.  

 

I shared a bunch of data on the 10th page. Here's the AXIOM data:

 

Driver: Titleist GT3 10° @10.75° | Fujikura Ventus Red 6X

3W: Titleist GT3 15° | Fujikura Ventus Red 7S

7W: Titleist GT2 21° @ 20.25° | Fujikura Ventus Red 7S

Hybrid: Ping G430 5H @ 25° | VA Slay 85S

Irons: Ping i230 5-UW | Fujikura Axiom 105X

Wedges: Callaway Opus 54°/14W, 60°/8C | Nippon Modus 115 Wedge

Putter: Bettinardi 2024 BB1 Wide

 

Currently testing for GolfWRX: Wilson DYNAPWR Carbon 3W at standard 15° and 5W at +1 19° with Ventus TR Blue 7S, DYNAPWR 4H at standard 22° with Graphite Design Tour AD DI 85S

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On 7/27/2023 at 8:20 AM, 968cab said:

11 pages and counting…my head hurts just thinking about reading it all. 😂

 

Cutting to the chase: one iron set with Recoil 110 F4, one set with MMT 95S.  
Flight is lower with Recoils, and both are lower than I’d like.  I wonder if the 110 causes fatigue or slows me down on hot Texas days.

 

I play Ventus Red TR 6S Driver and 7S 3W.  76-78 6iron, 95-100 Driver for speeds…definitely a “tweener”.  Love the Ventus shafts, and want the same from my irons. 
 

Tell me what to do—>???
75R

75S

105S

105S

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I've really gotten comfortable with these Axiom 105X shafts, and am noticing something I didn't expect: I'm hitting the ball almost a full club farther with all of my irons. 

 

The trajectory isn't dramatically different from what I saw before -- maybe a little higher. And the spin doesn't seem that different, either. Balls are stopping in roughly the same proximity to their pitch marks as they had before I had my Axioms installed. 

 

I think what's happening is I'm just getting really comfortable with these shafts, and swinging harder. 

 

I noticed it today -- warm day, relatively little breeze. 

 

Rangefinder said I had 151 from the light rough to a middle pin. My stock 8 iron, up until now, has been my low 150s club -- perfect for this distance. I played it dead straight, but the ball hopped on the back fringe and into the rough behind the green. It would've needed to carry 160ish to land there.

 

I didn't think much of it because I was in the light rough. Must have caught a flyer lie that killed all the spin, right?

 

Well, the next hole was a short par 3, rangefinder said it was 152 to a middle pin today. I hit 8 iron again. Clean strike. And once again, landed in the rough directly over the green and behind the pin. OK, I'm getting the hint, it's going farther. 

 

Last hole, 147 to the pin from the fairway. Previously would've been a soft 8 iron. Today, I hit a full 9 iron, and went a few yards long -- still on the green this time though; two-putted for par.

 

I'm using these as an illustration as something I'm seeing throughout the bag. You might scroll up and see me hitting my 4 iron in the 180s on Trackman ... well, today I was pin-high from 205 with that same 4 iron. 

 

I'm still playing my i230s, so it's not like these are low-spin, jumpy irons. The only explanation I can really come up with is that I'm just making really confident swings lately. And the only thing that's really changed is these Axiom shafts, which I'm absolutely loving.

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Hybrid: Ping G430 5H @ 25° | VA Slay 85S

Irons: Ping i230 5-UW | Fujikura Axiom 105X

Wedges: Callaway Opus 54°/14W, 60°/8C | Nippon Modus 115 Wedge

Putter: Bettinardi 2024 BB1 Wide

 

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14 hours ago, eric61 said:

I've really gotten comfortable with these Axiom 105X shafts, and am noticing something I didn't expect: I'm hitting the ball almost a full club farther with all of my irons. 

 

The trajectory isn't dramatically different from what I saw before -- maybe a little higher. And the spin doesn't seem that different, either. Balls are stopping in roughly the same proximity to their pitch marks as they had before I had my Axioms installed. 

 

I think what's happening is I'm just getting really comfortable with these shafts, and swinging harder. 

 

I noticed it today -- warm day, relatively little breeze. 

 

Rangefinder said I had 151 from the light rough to a middle pin. My stock 8 iron, up until now, has been my low 150s club -- perfect for this distance. I played it dead straight, but the ball hopped on the back fringe and into the rough behind the green. It would've needed to carry 160ish to land there.

 

I didn't think much of it because I was in the light rough. Must have caught a flyer lie that killed all the spin, right?

 

Well, the next hole was a short par 3, rangefinder said it was 152 to a middle pin today. I hit 8 iron again. Clean strike. And once again, landed in the rough directly over the green and behind the pin. OK, I'm getting the hint, it's going farther. 

 

Last hole, 147 to the pin from the fairway. Previously would've been a soft 8 iron. Today, I hit a full 9 iron, and went a few yards long -- still on the green this time though; two-putted for par.

 

I'm using these as an illustration as something I'm seeing throughout the bag. You might scroll up and see me hitting my 4 iron in the 180s on Trackman ... well, today I was pin-high from 205 with that same 4 iron. 

 

I'm still playing my i230s, so it's not like these are low-spin, jumpy irons. The only explanation I can really come up with is that I'm just making really confident swings lately. And the only thing that's really changed is these Axiom shafts, which I'm absolutely loving.

I’ve found the same with mine. I’m a half club longer now than before with the MMT shafts. 

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Sorry, haven't updated because I've been struggling through a psychological and neurological ailment for the past few weeks. They say it's called shankischlerosis. I'm on the mend now though, I think. Played yesterday, shanked my way through the front 9, but hit 6 GIR on the back (7 if you count a re-tee).

 

The Axioms have been awesome when I can find the clubface, but right now it's either a pure shot or it's a 70* banana ball right. 

 

Will get those Trackman numbers this week hopefully. Hard to get consistent LM stats when the ball is coming off the hosel. Not to mention, I don't want to be the guy leaving dents in the drywall, breaking windows, etc.  

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Btw, I'll echo what everyone else has been saying - higher ball flight, increased carry distance, and slightly reduced curvature. Biggest positive impact for me has been the mid to long irons, both in terms of distance gains and higher trajectory/holding greens. I was 188 out on the 17th yesterday, went with a smooth 5i which covered the flag, but it went 196 and stopped dead on its ballmark. Greens were soft but even then I don't normally do that with the 5i. I also hit the 5i 201 yards on the first hole and 198 on the 7th. 

 

Hit the 4i several times yesterday and had Garmin measured distances of 197 (approach, but not entirely solid), 210, 209, and 217 (tee). I have not hit my 4-iron beyond 200 in at least a few years, and I wouldn't say I've been doing a great job working out for the past 18 months, but that's a whole other discussion.   

 

In terms of more finessed shots, hit some sawed off PW and 9i and distance control was spot on (when I didn't hosel them), plus a pure 7i on 16 that went 168 vs 171 to the pin. Very happy with the results thus far and looking forward to the next round already.  

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4 hours ago, Puppetmaster said:

Sorry, haven't updated because I've been struggling through a psychological and neurological ailment for the past few weeks. They say it's called shankischlerosis. I'm on the mend now though, I think. Played yesterday, shanked my way through the front 9, but hit 6 GIR on the back (7 if you count a re-tee).

 

The Axioms have been awesome when I can find the clubface, but right now it's either a pure shot or it's a 70* banana ball right. 

 

Will get those Trackman numbers this week hopefully. Hard to get consistent LM stats when the ball is coming off the hosel. Not to mention, I don't want to be the guy leaving dents in the drywall, breaking windows, etc.  

I’ve read that shankischlerosis is caused by inadequate levels of aiming fluid or alcohol.

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2 hours ago, hammergolf said:

I’ve read that shankischlerosis is caused by inadequate levels of aiming fluid or alcohol.

 

@XHoop24 bought me a beer after the 15th and I hit the next 3 GIR. Just sayin. 

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Just now, GolfTurkey said:

What's the ball flight like on the short irons, still high or is that lower?

For me, it’s still pretty high. Not really a flighted set that tries to lower short-iron launch.

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14 minutes ago, Puppetmaster said:

 

@XHoop24 bought me a beer after the 15th and I hit the next 3 GIR. Just sayin. 

See, it’s a scientific fact!

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3 minutes ago, GolfTurkey said:

What's the ball flight like on the short irons, still high or is that lower?

It’s a little higher, but not ballooning or stalled effect to the flight.

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No LM data yet, but visually, I feel like my 8-PW aren’t that much higher. It’s the mid to long irons are where I’m seeing the biggest difference. Just my 2 cents for now. 
 

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2 hours ago, GolfTurkey said:

Thanks for the responses. My main complaint with my G425 irons with Modus 105x is that 8-U get a bit high and floaty.

 

Thinking of keeping 5-7 G425 and a combo with 8-U i230 and Axiom.

While traj is higher, it’s definitely not floaty. 

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On 8/5/2023 at 5:55 PM, Puppetmaster said:

 

@XHoop24 bought me a beer after the 15th and I hit the next 3 GIR. Just sayin. 

I can confirm that this is exactly what happened 🙂

 

In all seriousness, the 5 iron @Puppetmaster hit on the 17th hole was a standout shot of the day. Super high, plenty of spin, and right over the flag. 

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