Jump to content
2025 Members Choice voting is now open! Vote now for your favorite gear! ×

Pure Grips out of business!


AZGolfNut2

Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, CactusGolf said:

That's a big, big disappointment.  Those were the only grips that I've used for 5-6 years.  Loved the ability to quickly swap and play immediately.

 

Gone for good or a restructuring? 

 

From what I've read here and other places, as of right now the plan is to shut down for good. But that doesn't mean some big company won't come in and make an offer they can't refuse and swoop them up. Lamkin? Golf Pride? Who knows. 

 

In the meantime check out Star Grip - made of a very similar material, but IMHO a little better durability, and I actually like the Star Sidewinder better than the Pure Pro. The jumbo wrap is also really nice. 

 

Edited by AZGolfNut2
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, AZGolfNut2 said:

 

From what I've read here and other places, as of right now the plan is to shut down for good. But that doesn't mean some big company won't come in and make an offer they can't refuse and swoop them up. Lamkin? Golf Pride? Who knows. 

 

In the meantime check out Star Grip - made of a very similar material, but IMHO a little better durability, and I actually like the Star Sidewinder better than the Pure Pro. The jumbo wrap is also really nice. 

 

I'll have to take a look.  Thankfully I just regripped with Pure Pro during their last sale.

 

Their prices aren't terrible either!

  • Like 1

Callaway Elyte 10.5*Fujikura Ventus TR Red 

Titleist TSR2 16.5* Fujikura Ventus Blue

Titleist GT2 21* Fujikura Ventus Black

Callaway Rogue ST Pro 5-PW Fujikura Axiom

Wilson Staff Model Forged 52*/56*/60* Fujikura Pro

Taylormade GTx

Wilson Staff Model X

WITB Link

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That's a bummer. I used them for a few years prior to switching to Best Grips. Tough to see companies fold. Hope the workers are able to find something new.

Callaway Rogue ST Max - Tensei AV White - 8*
Taylormade M3 HL - MFS5 White Tie 60S -0.75" (42.5")

Mizuno JPX 923 HMP - 4-G - Recoil 95 S - 2* upright

Callaway X-JAWS - 52/58*

Odyssey OWorks 2ball  -  34" - 1* loft - 71* lie
Slighter Proto 1 #9/Del Mar design - High Toe - Long neck - Deep Milled face - 33", 370gr, lie 71*, loft 4*

WITB Link

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, AZGolfNut2 said:

 

From what I've read here and other places, as of right now the plan is to shut down for good. But that doesn't mean some big company won't come in and make an offer they can't refuse and swoop them up. Lamkin? Golf Pride? Who knows. 

 

In the meantime check out Star Grip - made of a very similar material, but IMHO a little better durability, and I actually like the Star Sidewinder better than the Pure Pro. The jumbo wrap is also really nice. 

 

wasn't Pure some offshoot of Star in the first place? Former Star employee or something.

Callaway Rogue ST Max 10.5°/Xcaliber SL 45 a flex,Callaway Rogue ST Max Heavenwood/Xcaliber FW a flex, Callaway Rogue ST Max 9w/Xcaliber FW a flex, Maltby KE4 TC IST 4h & 5h/Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby KE4 Tour+ 6-G/Xcaliber Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby Max Milled 54°/Xcaliber Wedge 85 r flex, Maltby Max Milled 58°/Xcaliber Wedge 85 r flex, Maltby Moment X Tour putter

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, Bad9 said:

wasn't Pure some offshoot of Star in the first place? Former Star employee or something.

 

Yep. The story is that two guys who worked at Star paired up with an investor to start Pure, using similar grip designs, material suppliers, and manufacturing process. From what I've heard through the grapevine, since day one Pure was burning money faster than they could make it, and it just got to the point where enough was enough. Seems like slow & steady (Star Grip) wins the race after all!

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, AZGolfNut2 said:

 

Yep. The story is that two guys who worked at Star paired up with an investor to start Pure, using similar grip designs, material suppliers, and manufacturing process. From what I've heard through the grapevine, since day one Pure was burning money faster than they could make it, and it just got to the point where enough was enough. Seems like slow & steady (Star Grip) wins the race after all!

Pure has much better grips than Star. All star has is one tour velvet look alike and the rest are old looking wrap grips.

AIMAX D 9FLAT + HD6/ AIMAX 16.5FLAT + HD/ ROGUESTMAX 18TC + TB7 / TR21X4-6 & TR20P7-10 + MDUS115 / JWSFRGD50+54+58°

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, third-times-a-charm said:

Pure has much better grips than Star. All star has is one tour velvet look alike and the rest are old looking wrap grips.

I think they have better options but if we are comparing Star grip to Pures standard grip, Star I think feels better and lasts longer.  Always thought Pure was a touch too squishy

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 hours ago, third-times-a-charm said:

Pure has much better grips than Star. All star has is one tour velvet look alike and the rest are old looking wrap grips.

 

They're kind of close, but I preferred the feel of Pure more. Will have to stock up, but yeah, the successor for me would probably be Star.

Titleist GT2 10* // Autoflex SF505

Titleist TSR2 16.5* // Fukijura Vista Pro 65s

Ping G25 20* // Tour AD True Spec

Titleist Black T200 5-GW // Steelfiber i80r

Titleist SM10 52.08, 56.10 // Steelfiber i90PR

Bettinardi SS 35

Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, PearSorbet17 said:

50% off all grips right now. 
Only company that is (was) making nice purple grips so I got a set of dtx and combo for the future. 
sad!!!!!!

Thanks. Ordered another set of combo DTX.

AIMAX D 9FLAT + HD6/ AIMAX 16.5FLAT + HD/ ROGUESTMAX 18TC + TB7 / TR21X4-6 & TR20P7-10 + MDUS115 / JWSFRGD50+54+58°

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 7/27/2023 at 4:22 PM, Bad9 said:

wasn't Pure some offshoot of Star in the first place? Former Star employee or something.

 

On 7/28/2023 at 2:02 AM, AZGolfNut2 said:

 

Yep. The story is that two guys who worked at Star paired up with an investor to start Pure, using similar grip designs, material suppliers, and manufacturing process. From what I've heard through the grapevine, since day one Pure was burning money faster than they could make it, and it just got to the point where enough was enough. Seems like slow & steady (Star Grip) wins the race after all!

 

Said starters of Pure also availed themselves of the Star customer list without permission.  The whole thing was a bit less than above board.

 

  • Like 3

The Ever Changing Bag!  A lot of mixing and matching
Driver: TM 300 Mini, NV75 or NV85 X -or- Cobra DarkSpeed LS, HZRDUS Green Smoke 70 X

Fwy woods:  TM SIM2 Ti, Aldila Tour Blue 85 X; King LTD 5w, RIP Beta 90 X (this may replace hybrid below)
Hybrid:  Cobra King Tec 2h or 3h, Modus 105 S 

Irons grab bag:  3-GW Maltby TS4, Modus 105 S; Tommy Armour 986 Tours 2-PW, Modus 105 S; Mizuno MS-11, Modus 120 S
Wedges:  Maltby Max Milled 56° 1.05 -or- Cobra Snakebite 56°
Putter:  Cleveland HB Soft2 #8S, 34"
Balls: Maxfli Tour, Callaway Chrome Soft

Grip preference: various GripMaster leather options, Best Grips Microperfs, or Star Grip Sidewinders of assorted colors

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, PearSorbet17 said:

50% off all grips right now. 
Only company that is (was) making nice purple grips so I got a set of dtx and combo for the future. 
sad!!!!!!

Thank you for this!  Luckily I play the wraps which they still had in stock.

Ping G440 Max 9° - GD Tour AD IZ 6X

Ping G440 Max 3W 15° - Fuji Ventus Blue '24 7X

Ping G4440 Max 7W 21° - Fuji Ventus Black '24 8X

Ping G440 Max 9w DL@25° - Fuji Ventus Blue '24 8X

Nike Vapor Fly Pro 5i - GD Tour AD DI 95X

Ping i210 6-PW - DG TI X100 

Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 50°SS & 56°SS - DG Onyx TI S400

Titleist SM10 Raw 60°T - DG Onyx TI S400

Scotty Cameron Studio Style Fast Back 1.5 - LAGP SoHo

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 7/27/2023 at 1:32 PM, AZGolfNut2 said:

 

From what I've read here and other places, as of right now the plan is to shut down for good. But that doesn't mean some big company won't come in and make an offer they can't refuse and swoop them up. Lamkin? Golf Pride? Who knows. 

 

In the meantime check out Star Grip - made of a very similar material, but IMHO a little better durability, and I actually like the Star Sidewinder better than the Pure Pro. The jumbo wrap is also really nice. 

 

Or Golfworks Maltby/ Golf Galaxy like they did with Royal Grip

Driver--- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha--- Speeder 565 R flex

7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

Irons 5 thru 9 1985 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

PW-- 1962 Macgregor FC-400 11 iron Pro Pel 2 shaft

SW -- Callaway Mac Daddy 52* 

LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

Putter -- Ping Zing 2 SS Fluted Bulls Eye shaft

Down to only 11 clubs playing the best since my accident

Link to comment
Share on other sites

For anyone who likes installing PURE grips with the air compressor as much as I do, I just wanted to let everyone know that any grip can be installed with an air compressor with the exception of some putter grips. Even if you want to use double sided tape you can do it without mineral spirits and it will adhere. I use PURE on all my clubs except my metal woods and I still install all my metal wood grips with an air compressor. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 7/28/2023 at 3:02 AM, AZGolfNut2 said:

 

Yep. The story is that two guys who worked at Star paired up with an investor to start Pure, using similar grip designs, material suppliers, and manufacturing process. From what I've heard through the grapevine, since day one Pure was burning money faster than they could make it, and it just got to the point where enough was enough. Seems like slow & steady (Star Grip) wins the race after all!

Good gravy, that's a long time to be burning money.  They were around for 14-15 years.

Glove: ML
Tees: 2 3/4
Towel: white
Repair tool: metal
Ball Marker: largest poker chip in the world
Iron headcovers: wait, what?

The feedback system is annoying

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, lopey986 said:

Missed out on any good deals on the Pro but did get a set of the combos and the air gun/install tool. 90 bucks shipped for everything is tough to beat. Will be a little sad if I ultimately love the grips and can't buy them anymore but should be good for a couple seasons at least.

 

Star is actually doing 13 grips + gun for a little over $100, so not much more. The grips are full price but when you spend $100 (which is 13 grips) you get the gun for free. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I bought their grips 18 months ago, first time using this company.  Not sure which model I have but they remind of GolfPride Tour velvets.  I've played approximately 450 days (mostly 18 hole rounds) with grips I cannot detect any wear on my most used clubs.  I can't believe they've lasted this long, guess I'm going stockpile a bunch of them, best prices around 7 bucks a grip.


Location:  Colorado Springs, CO
Handicap:  3

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Buzzkill said:

I bought their grips 18 months ago, first time using this company.  Not sure which model I have but they remind of GolfPride Tour velvets.  I've played approximately 450 days (mostly 18 hole rounds) with grips I cannot detect any wear on my most used clubs.  I can't believe they've lasted this long, guess I'm going stockpile a bunch of them, best prices around 7 bucks a grip.

 

One of the biggest draws. I just replaced my Mizuno MP15 irons with Pure DTX Grips. That was back in 2017. They still feel like new. Crazy good.

Callaway Rogue ST Max LS 10* Ventus Blue TR

Callaway Rogue ST LS 15* Tensei Blue

Callaway Rogue ST LS 18* Tensei Blue

Ping G425 22* Tensei CK Pro Orange

Titleist T100 5-PW ProjectX LZ

Titleist SM6 50S

Callaway JAWS MD5 56W

Callaway JAWS MD5 60X

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Buzzkill said:

I bought their grips 18 months ago, first time using this company.  Not sure which model I have but they remind of GolfPride Tour velvets.  I've played approximately 450 days (mostly 18 hole rounds) with grips I cannot detect any wear on my most used clubs.  I can't believe they've lasted this long, guess I'm going stockpile a bunch of them, best prices around 7 bucks a grip.

Most likely the Pure Pro’s. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, dcl5dcl5 said:

Is everyone paying shipping? it says free shipping eligible, but then shows shipping cost in checkout. Is this everyone else's experience?

I got free S/H on my 13-grip order after 50% off - in checkout.

 

Also I already got my tracking number which was much faster than their 44% off sale last month.

AIMAX D 9FLAT + HD6/ AIMAX 16.5FLAT + HD/ ROGUESTMAX 18TC + TB7 / TR21X4-6 & TR20P7-10 + MDUS115 / JWSFRGD50+54+58°

Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, third-times-a-charm said:

I got free S/H on my 13-grip order after 50% off - in checkout.

 

Also I already got my tracking number which was much faster than their 44% off sale last month.

Weird - it is showing me $15 to ship UPS Ground and isn't changing when I go to "pay now". Wonder if they changed it now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, dcl5dcl5 said:

Weird - it is showing me $15 to ship UPS Ground and isn't changing when I go to "pay now". Wonder if they changed it now.

I just added 13 more to my cart and went to checkout and it does in fact add shipping ($13.50 for me)

 

I guess free s/h is over for the blowout sale.

AIMAX D 9FLAT + HD6/ AIMAX 16.5FLAT + HD/ ROGUESTMAX 18TC + TB7 / TR21X4-6 & TR20P7-10 + MDUS115 / JWSFRGD50+54+58°

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Placed my Blowout Sale order at around 11am yesterday Mon July 31, and they charged shipping.  Love these Pure grips.

So I think someone there realized that they could/should start charging shipping for a close-the-doors sale, since so many of the other grips are all sold out already.

Thx for all the info, everyone, this forum is great source of info.  Without you guys, I would not have known of some of the backstory, nor would I have known the relationship between Pure and Star Grips.   Good to know that I can go to Star Grips now should I ever run through my two boxes of 28 Pure Midsize Wrap black grips that I have bought on sale.....  (yes, my wife says "why do you need so many sets of Hogan golf clubs, do you play them all?"  I say "yes, I do" (and I really do!).   She rolls her eyes :-)   
 

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • 2025 Wyndham Championship - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 Wyndham Championship - Tuesday #1
      2025 Wyndham Championship - Tuesday #2
      2025 Wyndham Championship - Tuesday #3
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Chandler Phillips - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Davis Riley - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Scotty Kennon - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Austin Duncan - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Will Chandler - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Kevin Roy - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Ben Griffin - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Peter Malnati - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Ryan Gerard - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Adam Schenk - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Kurt Kitayama - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Camilo Villegas - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Matti Schmid - WITB - 2025 Wyndham Championship
       
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Denny McCarthy's custom Cameron putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Swag Golf putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Karl Vilips TM MG5 wedges - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      New Bettinardi putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Matt Fitzpatrick's custom Bettinardi putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
      Cameron putters - 2025 Wyndham Championship
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Thanks
      • 7 replies
    • 2025 3M Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 3M Open - Tuesday #1
      2025 3M Open - Tuesday #2
      2025 3M Open - Tuesday #3
      2025 3M Open - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Luke List - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Isaiah Salinda - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Akshay Bhatia - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Kaito Onishi - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Chris Gotterup - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Rickie Fowler - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Seamus Power - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Chris Kirk - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Vince Whaley - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Andrew Putnam - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      David Lipsky - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Thomas Campbell - Minnesota PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2025 3M Open
      Max Herendeen - WITB - 2025 3M Open
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Rickie's custom Joe Powell persimmon driver - 2025 3M Open
      Custom Cameron T-9.5 - 2025 3M Open
      Tom Kim's custom prototype Cameron putter - 2025 3M Open
      New Cameron prototype putters - 2025 3M Open
      Zak Blair's latest Scotty acquisition - 2025 3M Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
      • 5 replies
    • 2025 The Open Championship - Discussions and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 The Open Championship - Sunday #1
      2025 The Open Championship – Monday #1
      2025 The Open Championship - Monday #2
      2025 Open Championship – Monday #3
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Cobra's 153rd Open Championship staff bag - 2025 The Open Championship
      Srixon's 153rd Open Championship staff bag - 2025 The Open Championship
      Scotty Cameron 2025 Open Championship putter covers - 2025 The Open Championship
      TaylorMade's 153rd Open Championship staff bag - 2025 The Open Championship
      Shane Lowry - testing a couple of Cameron putters - 2025 The Open Championship
      New Scotty Cameron Phantom Black putters(and new cover & grip) - 2025 The Open Championship
       
       
       




















       
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 26 replies
    • 2025 Genesis Scottish Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 Genesis Scottish Open - Monday #1
      2025 Genesis Scottish Open - Tuesday #1
      2025 Genesis Scottish Open - Tuesday #2
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Adrian Otaegui - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Luke Donald - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Haotong Li - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Callum Hill - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Johannes Veerman - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Dale Whitnell - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Martin Couvra - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Daniel Hillier - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Angel Hidalgo Portillo - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Simon Forsstrom - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      J.H. Lee - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Marcel Schneider - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Ugo Coussaud - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Todd Clements - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Shaun Norris - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Marco Penge - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Nicolai Von Dellingshausen - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Hong Taek Kim - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Julien Guerrier - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Richie Ramsey - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima's TaylorMade P-8CB irons - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Francesco Laporta - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Aaron Cockerill - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Sebastian Soderberg - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Connor Syme - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jeff Winther - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Woo Young Cho - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Bernd Wiesberger - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Andy Sullivan - WITB 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jacques Kruyswijk - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Pablo Larrazabal - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Thriston Lawrence - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Darius Van Driel - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Grant Forrest - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jordan Gumberg - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Nacho Elvira - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Romain Langasque - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Dan Bradbury - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Yannik Paul - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Ashun Wu - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Alex Del Rey - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made gamer - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made putter (back-up??) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      New TaylorMade P-UDI (Stinger Squadron cover) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Rory's custom Joe Powell (Career Slam) persimmon driver & cover - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima's TaylorMade P-8CB irons - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Tommy Fleetwood's son Mo's TM putter - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
      • 20 replies
    • 2025 John Deere Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #1
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #2
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Carson Young - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Zac Blair - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Anders Albertson - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Jay Giannetto - Iowa PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      John Pak - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Brendan Valdes - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cristobal del Solar - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Dylan Frittelli - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Justin Lowers new Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Bettinardi new Core Carbon putters - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter covers - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 2 replies

×
×
  • Create New...