Anyone playing Eleven Golf Hybrids?

[NoTalentLefty]

What are your thoughts? (Ordered a 9 in Left hand ) 

[MattM97]

Never heard of them, probably white label clubs. Also odd they don't show face or address pics for a club where address pics are huge. 

[NoTalentLefty]

Seems like the English golf club pushers like them.

[ChaosTheory]

I just ordered an 8 from them.  How long did it take from order to delivery?

@NoTalentLefty

[NoTalentLefty]

7 hours ago, ChaosTheory said:

I just ordered an 8 from them.  How long did it take from order to delivery?

@NoTalentLefty

Ordered mine in LH before they were out. I believe from availability it was 2 1/2 weeks 

[Grouchykona]

Before opening this thread, I thought you were playing 11 hybrids:

Driver

11 hybrids

Wedge

Putter

That would’ve been interesting. 

[Milfordlefty]

This golf youtuber in FL posted a video 2 weeks ago, he had a full set to try.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV68K8vvBp0

[Soccerrick10]

I’m on the verge of “needing” them and will probably order in the next couple of weeks.

[ChaosTheory]

My 8H came today.  I got the 70R shaft.  Measured at 37.25", 62 lie, 35 loft.  D0 swingweight with the heavier midsize grip.  

 

I was able to get out for a practice nine and made sure to hit it several times.  I really like it.  It goes virtually the same distance as a well struck 8 iron at the same loft.  (If I had more well-struck irons, I would not be trying these.) The height is good and high but not too high.  Honestly not that much higher than my 8 iron.  I've never played this shaft before, but it seems to be a good fit for me.   I tested the butt flex CPM with the grip on, which is not the way I usually do it.   So I have to make an educated guess on the adjustment for the reading.  The result was a solid R to R+.  Probably firmer than a lot of OEM label shafts in irons.

 

I'm going to sleep on it but most likely I will be ordering a full set starting at the 4 or 5.  I have to get my ego out of the way.

 

[ChaosTheory]

Also, I chipped with it from fringes and light rough around greens.  Cheat code.  I holed one out from 60 feet. 

[rlb4]

9 hours ago, ChaosTheory said:

My 8H came today.  I got the 70R shaft.  Measured at 37.25", 62 lie, 35 loft.  D0 swingweight with the heavier midsize grip.  

 

I was able to get out for a practice nine and made sure to hit it several times.  I really like it.  It goes virtually the same distance as a well struck 8 iron at the same loft.  (If I had more well-struck irons, I would not be trying these.) The height is good and high but not too high.  Honestly not that much higher than my 8 iron.  I've never played this shaft before, but it seems to be a good fit for me.   I tested the butt flex CPM with the grip on, which is not the way I usually do it.   So I have to make an educated guess on the adjustment for the reading.  The result was a solid R to R+.  Probably firmer than a lot of OEM label shafts in irons.

 

I'm going to sleep on it but most likely I will be ordering a full set starting at the 4 or 5.  I have to get my ego out of the way.

 

How far do you usually hit your 7 iron(total)? I'm deciding between the R(70g) and S(80g) shafts. 

[Streuner]

They are pushing hard from the marketing Dpt into the influencer market at the moment, Mr. Shortgame is having a new YT video as well since March 25th 

[johnnythunders]

I ordered mine yesterday as I need something easy to hit. Im 72 and irons just are not working. They said they will be build and shipped next week, review will follow.

[ChaosTheory]

8 hours ago, rlb4 said:

How far do you usually hit your 7 iron(total)? I'm deciding between the R(70g) and S(80g) shafts. 

 

My 31 degree 7 iron is about 140 carry on best, full hits.  Figure 145 total.  But that's 100th percentile.   My playing number is more like 133-143 total.   My sense is that the 70R is on the firm side for me.   And the flex numbers suggest that too.

 

[ChaosTheory]

I bought a 7 hybrid from someone I know from the forum.  Same shaft as my 8, the TGI 70R.  I tested the flex and it's a lot softer than my 8.  The tip trim is what it should be based on what I see on the 8.  So it's just a softer specimen.  I would expect much tighter tolerances on such an expensive shaft.

 

Also, it's 2 degrees flatter than the 8.  It is too flat for me, and I cannot do anything except hit pushes with it.   So I guess this is the end of my Eleven hybrid experiment.  I will keep looking.  Value Golf is coming out with a hybrid set under their Pinhawk label.  It's not on their website yet, but is supposed to be in production.  They already offer a single length Pinhawk hybrid set, so I'm pretty sure this would be a conventional length set.

[Soccerrick10]

On 4/8/2024 at 10:25 AM, ChaosTheory said:

I bought a 7 hybrid from someone I know from the forum.  Same shaft as my 8, the TGI 70R.  I tested the flex and it's a lot softer than my 8.  The tip trim is what it should be based on what I see on the 8.  So it's just a softer specimen.  I would expect much tighter tolerances on such an expensive shaft.

 

Also, it's 2 degrees flatter than the 8.  It is too flat for me, and I cannot do anything except hit pushes with it.   So I guess this is the end of my Eleven hybrid experiment.  I will keep looking.  Value Golf is coming out with a hybrid set under their Pinhawk label.  It's not on their website yet, but is supposed to be in production.  They already offer a single length Pinhawk hybrid set, so I'm pretty sure this would be a conventional length set.

Just a question for clarification - the one you bought locally was also an Eleven club, as a 7i?

 

I’m curious whether the 7 was modified?

[ChaosTheory]

8 hours ago, Soccerrick10 said:

Just a question for clarification - the one you bought locally was also an Eleven club, as a 7i?

 

I’m curious whether the 7 was modified?

It was an unmodified Eleven Golf 7 hybrid.  

[TonyRo]

On 4/8/2024 at 10:25 AM, ChaosTheory said:

Also, it's 2 degrees flatter than the 8.  It is too flat for me, and I cannot do anything except hit pushes with it. 

That's quite an extreme, no? A 2 degree change in lie angle at that loft will result in about a 1-degree deviation in face angle. Are you so skillful that pointing 1-degree right results in only pushes but also simultaneously unable to start the ball 1-degree more left? 😁 Not trying to be snarky, it just seems like you liked the 8 a lot and perhaps just had an off day whilst testing the 7? Do you play single length/single lie right now too?

[Soccerrick10]

2 hours ago, ChaosTheory said:

It was an unmodified Eleven Golf 7 hybrid.  

That’d make me pause too.  It would be interesting to see what they say.  I’ve chatted with them a few times and they’ve been really helpful.

[Triple Lindy]

I only recently discovered this brand. It’s been popping up in YouTube videos, probably because of a push by Eleven with the influencers. Are there any demo outlets in the U.S.? I’d love to hit them. I was trying to decide between Wilson LaunchPros and Cleveland Halos when I came across Eleven.

[ChaosTheory]

7 hours ago, TonyRo said:

That's quite an extreme, no? A 2 degree change in lie angle at that loft will result in about a 1-degree deviation in face angle. Are you so skillful that pointing 1-degree right results in only pushes but also simultaneously unable to start the ball 1-degree more left? 😁 Not trying to be snarky, it just seems like you liked the 8 a lot and perhaps just had an off day whilst testing the 7? Do you play single length/single lie right now too?

I was hitting the 7 off a mat at the range, and every shot went right.  The plastic residue from the mat was on the toe side of the sole.  The 8 is slightly flat for me but was in the okay range.  The 7 is just too flat.

[rlb4]

9 hours ago, ChaosTheory said:

I was hitting the 7 off a mat at the range, and every shot went right.  The plastic residue from the mat was on the toe side of the sole.  The 8 is slightly flat for me but was in the okay range.  The 7 is just too flat.

According to Elevens website the difference in lie angle between the 7 and 8 is 0.5*.

[ChaosTheory]

4 hours ago, rlb4 said:

According to Elevens website the difference in lie angle between the 7 and 8 is 0.5*.

Mine are 2 degrees apart.  I have an old measuring gauge from Golfworks.

[ChaosTheory]

I don’t want to start a controversy. I probably just got one that’s flatter than specs. Here are photos of the 8 and 7 in the gauge, shot directly at the measuring plate. You can see the 8 is almost 61° and the 7 is just above 58°.

 

 Then a pic of how I’ve positioned the club for measuring. I’m using the center of the sole, not the score lines on the face.  In any case, the club was way too flat for my swing. 
 

 

 

Edited April 12, 2024 by ChaosTheory

[ChaosTheory]

Here it is with the score lines digitally obscured, so you can better judge if it is being measured correctly. 
 

 

[erock9174]

8 minutes ago, ChaosTheory said:

Here it is with the score lines digitally obscured, so you can better judge if it is being measured correctly. 
 

 

Could it be bent ?

[ChaosTheory]

5 minutes ago, erock9174 said:

Could it be bent ?

Highly unlikely.  No sign of it, that’s for sure.

[rlb4]

6 hours ago, ChaosTheory said:

Mine are 2 degrees apart.  I have an old measuring gauge from Golfworks.

Those are pretty far off, not just from the actual lie angle but also the spacing difference from 7 to 8. Maybe give them a call or email them. Their head club builder Nick has contact info on their website.

[rlb4]

On 4/11/2024 at 4:23 PM, ChaosTheory said:

I was hitting the 7 off a mat at the range, and every shot went right.  The plastic residue from the mat was on the toe side of the sole.  The 8 is slightly flat for me but was in the okay range.  The 7 is just too flat.

You may be on to something. I just received the 7 iron and PW today and went to a sim to try them out. I compared them directly to my Cleveland Launcher HB's so I'm pretty comfortable with hybrid style irons. I was not fit for them and hit them ok but want something at least as easy to use with a lighter shaft as my ss has gotten lower over the past couple years. My typical ss for a 7i is mid 70's and maybe high 70's when loose. Typical carry is about 140ish. Lofts are 30* and 44* for the HB's and 31* and 43* for the Elevens. The HB's have a Dynamic Gold R300 DST 98g steel shaft and the Elevens had the KBS TGI 70g R shaft. With my HB 7i ball flight is a slight fade to a more usual draw. The Eleven 7i was fades to slices. I could not get that thing to draw at all. Well maybe a couple but it just wanted to go right. My ss was 3-4mph higher due to it being 40g lighter total weight. See pic below for data. 7 iron is the HB 7i and 8 iron is the Eleven 7i. 

 

PW is the HB PW and SW is the Eleven PW.

 

Overall the dispersion was definitely worse with both Eleven clubs. The shaft felt a little boardy and I had a hard time making good contact. I've had my HB irons for a few years so I am pretty comfortable with them. I'm going to see if I can get more comfortable with the Eleven irons. I can't afford to give up 10+ yrds so the Elevens have a uphill battle.

[ChaosTheory]

5 hours ago, rlb4 said:

You may be on to something. I just received the 7 iron and PW today and went to a sim to try them out. I compared them directly to my Cleveland Launcher HB's so I'm pretty comfortable with hybrid style irons. I was not fit for them and hit them ok but want something at least as easy to use with a lighter shaft as my ss has gotten lower over the past couple years. My typical ss for a 7i is mid 70's and maybe high 70's when loose. Typical carry is about 140ish. Lofts are 30* and 44* for the HB's and 31* and 43* for the Elevens. The HB's have a Dynamic Gold R300 DST 98g steel shaft and the Elevens had the KBS TGI 70g R shaft. With my HB 7i ball flight is a slight fade to a more usual draw. The Eleven 7i was fades to slices. I could not get that thing to draw at all. Well maybe a couple but it just wanted to go right. My ss was 3-4mph higher due to it being 40g lighter total weight. See pic below for data. 7 iron is the HB 7i and 8 iron is the Eleven 7i. 

 

PW is the HB PW and SW is the Eleven PW.

 

Overall the dispersion was definitely worse with both Eleven clubs. The shaft felt a little boardy and I had a hard time making good contact. I've had my HB irons for a few years so I am pretty comfortable with them. I'm going to see if I can get more comfortable with the Eleven irons. I can't afford to give up 10+ yrds so the Elevens have a uphill battle.

The shaft is interesting.  I can see why they say it plays like steel.