Shaft similar to Diamana BB?

[pbr2121]

I have this shaft in SR flex and it’s just perfect for my tweener swing speed. I’d like to pop one in my new seven wood but don’t want to spend $360 or whatever. Any suggestions?

[gdb99]

Lots of shafts with that profile. Mid launch, mid spin. 

[noodle3872]

Diamana BF, Kai’li Blue or even Tensei Pro Blue (First Gen) could work and be more cost effective.

[phizzy30]

Diamana BF will be the closest feel wise, IMO from the testing I've done.  Tensei pro blue will be similar to but not quite as smooth, IMO.  Launch/spin wise they will all be in a similar window.  

[lebrown11]

On 12/29/2024 at 2:56 PM, phizzy30 said:

Diamana BF will be the closest feel wise, IMO from the testing I've done.  Tensei pro blue will be similar to but not quite as smooth, IMO.  Launch/spin wise they will all be in a similar window.  

Hi @phizzy30, with the similar launch/spin window, any of the ventus line red/blue or Tour AD/previous diamana models would you say is the most similar feel wise to the 2024 diamana BB?
 

Looking for a driver shaft that has a similar feel and profile to 2024 diamana BB, appreciate your feedback, thanks!

[phizzy30]

13 hours ago, lebrown11 said:

Hi @phizzy30, with the similar launch/spin window, any of the ventus line red/blue or Tour AD/previous diamana models would you say is the most similar feel wise to the 2024 diamana BB?
 

Looking for a driver shaft that has a similar feel and profile to 2024 diamana BB, appreciate your feedback, thanks!

Diamana TB/BF will feel similar.  Velo+ red is close but not as smooth.  AD CQ is the closest, feel wise with a touch more kick while HD/GC are closest in terms of EI profile without as much kick as the BB.  

[lebrown11]

On 4/20/2025 at 2:50 PM, phizzy30 said:

Diamana TB/BF will feel similar.  Velo+ red is close but not as smooth.  AD CQ is the closest, feel wise with a touch more kick while HD/GC are closest in terms of EI profile without as much kick as the BB.  

 

Thanks for the response, also wanted to ask, 

Feel wise, how is the 2024 Diamana BB different from the WB version?  

Because the 2024 Diamana WB felt quite loose/not stiff for a low/low shaft.

[phizzy30]

On 4/22/2025 at 1:28 AM, lebrown11 said:

 

Thanks for the response, also wanted to ask, 

Feel wise, how is the 2024 Diamana BB different from the WB version?  

Because the 2024 Diamana WB felt quite loose/not stiff for a low/low shaft.

It's a ball speed monster but it has more of kick/bend/load compared to the WB, IMO.  It feels softer overall than the WB due to the softer mid and handle.  

[Pnwpingi210]

On 4/28/2025 at 12:43 PM, phizzy30 said:

It's a ball speed monster but it has more of kick/bend/load compared to the WB, IMO.  It feels softer overall than the WB due to the softer mid and handle.  

Hows the bb treating you?

 

did you go 73tx?

[RookieBlue7]

Find an OG version in your flex. They’re far cheaper and perform as good as anything on the market (and will fit the shaft profile). The softer flexes are far easier to find too, I’ve been having to keep a saved search for X versions

[phizzy30]

On 5/8/2025 at 9:59 AM, Pnwpingi210 said:

Hows the bb treating you?

 

did you go 73tx?

63TX this time around as I wanted to focus on pure ball speed.  It's definitely gotta wider dispersion pattern than the VF, however, 2-5 mph more ball speed is crazy.  I've been putting tape on the sole to find the right feel.......

Edited May 13 by phizzy30

[phizzy30]

So in conclusion after extensive testing, the new Diamana BB while linear in profile, does have a bit of bend/load in the mid but nothing excessive and feels ultra smooth.  It's definitely more stable than the OG and has a bit of pop to it(ball speed).  I'd also like to add that the closest iron shaft in feel would be the KBS Tour.  

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Edited May 13 by phizzy30

[Pnwpingi210]

17 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

So in conclusion after extensive testing, the new Diamana BB while linear in profile, does have a bit of bend/load in the mid but nothing excessive and feels ultra smooth.  It's definitely more stable than the OG and has a bit of pop to it(ball speed).  I'd also like to add that the closest iron shaft in feel would be the KBS Tour.  

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Are you going to keep it in play?

 

[phizzy30]

3 minutes ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

Are you going to keep it in play?

 

Oh yes.  I'm also keeping the VF as well and swapping them out depending on how I feel and course I play, hehe.  

[phizzy30]

6 minutes ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

Are you going to keep it in play?

 

Will you be getting one, lol?

[Pnwpingi210]

1 minute ago, phizzy30 said:

Will you be getting one, lol?

Probably.

 

i have a wb and I don’t love it.

 

im hitting much more down on the ball (0-2 + aoa) this year and it has opened up a whole world of shaft options.

[phizzy30]

2 minutes ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

Probably.

 

i have a wb and I don’t love it.

 

im hitting much more down on the ball (0-2 + aoa) this year and it has opened up a whole world of shaft options.

Sweet.  If you can get used to the little bit of kick, I'm sure you'll see the jump in ball speed.  

[Pnwpingi210]

1 hour ago, phizzy30 said:

Sweet.  If you can get used to the little bit of kick, I'm sure you'll see the jump in ball speed.  

Can you talk to your connects and see if we can get the JT proto?

[phizzy30]

1 hour ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

Can you talk to your connects and see if we can get the JT proto?

Check your pm.

[Tbone107]

22 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

So in conclusion after extensive testing, the new Diamana BB while linear in profile, does have a bit of bend/load in the mid but nothing excessive and feels ultra smooth.  It's definitely more stable than the OG and has a bit of pop to it(ball speed).  I'd also like to add that the closest iron shaft in feel would be the KBS Tour.  

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How would you compare the BB to the GT? Have generally played whiteboards but recently tried an Aldila silver 130 60TX and want to try some other  stiff handle shafts that have kick and bring some speed. Considering the accra RPG gold, GT and BB? 

Edited May 14 by Tbone107

[phizzy30]

4 hours ago, Tbone107 said:

How would you compare the BB to the GT? Have generally played whiteboards but recently tried an Aldila silver 130 60TX and want to try some other  stiff handle shafts that have kick and bring some speed. Considering the accra RPG gold, GT and BB? 

GT = Average ball speed but more stable.  Feels more linear 

BB = Crazy fast ball speeds but a wider dispersion pattern more so left.  Has a touch of kick in the mid that isn't excessive. I think you'll like it though as I saw a big jump in ball speed.  My head and assistant pro have them in an Elyte TD/Qi35 LS and they absolutely love it.  

 

BB isn't handle soft but it's not crazy stiff either.  I'd compared the handle to the AD VF.  GT and RPG golf have really stiff handles.  I saw average ball speeds as well with RPG gold.  You might wanna try the Diamana RB.  I didn't have an LM available with me but the thing has a decent amount of kick if that's your thing.  Can't comment on ball speeds but it definitely wasn't short, carry wise.    

Edited May 15 by phizzy30

[lebrown11]

On 5/14/2025 at 4:31 AM, phizzy30 said:

So in conclusion after extensive testing, the new Diamana BB while linear in profile, does have a bit of bend/load in the mid but nothing excessive and feels ultra smooth.  It's definitely more stable than the OG and has a bit of pop to it(ball speed).  I'd also like to add that the closest iron shaft in feel would be the KBS Tour.  

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Hi, I ended up getting the Diamana WB in a lighter weight as I felt it being more stable. 

I know this thread is about driver shafts, however how would you compare MMT iron shafts to KBS Tour?

 

And how are you liking the MMT iron shafts so far, as I am planning to change into them soon. 

I read in other threads that there is no kick in MMT, is it true?

 

[phizzy30]

EI profile, grip to tip:

 

MMT = med+/stiff/stiff

KBS Tour = stiff/stiff/med

 

KBS Tour has some kick in the lower-mid whereas the MMT has very subtle kick that you may not even feel right under the handle.  I've had the MMT for almost 5 years now and they mimic DG profile which is pretty much my MO in terms of profile I fit into.  While not the smoothest graphite shaft, they still have some feel to them.  They are stable enough for me but prone to the lefts when my swing is off or if my transition gets too quick and aggressive.    

[Wardonation]

On 5/13/2025 at 2:30 PM, phizzy30 said:

63TX this time around as I wanted to focus on pure ball speed.  It's definitely gotta wider dispersion pattern than the VF, however, 2-5 mph more ball speed is crazy.  I've been putting tape on the sole to find the right feel.......

higher flight than VF?

[phizzy30]

2 hours ago, Wardonation said:

higher flight than VF?

2* higher launch.  Apex 100-120 feet.  

[Wardonation]

How is it compared to PD lol..sorry Phiz but you know better than anyone. You are the official shaft guru of wrx for along time...

7 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

2* higher launch.  Apex 100-120 feet.  

[phizzy30]

48 minutes ago, Wardonation said:

How is it compared to PD lol..sorry Phiz but you know better than anyone. You are the official shaft guru of wrx for along time...

Pretty much polar opposite.  PD is true low/low and feels very linear.  If you do feel any bend/load, it's gonna be under the handle.  I myself really had to focus on it to feel it.  The EI chart says it's got a med handle, but it feels stiff.  It has some feel to it but it's like rebar compared to the BB.  I was hitting low bullet fades(9-11* launch) as it's pretty anti-left and stable.  It really comes alive the harder I swing as higher the flight and straighter the ball gets.  Even if you look at Xander's ball flight with driver you can see that it's a flatter trajectory and doesn't apex super high.  Ball speeds were on the low side of average.  The guys that love the PD are usually the ones that have an aggressive transition.  

Edited May 17 by phizzy30

[Wardonation]

So I got the BB 7x tipped 1/2". I am hitting everything high on the face? Is it shaft droop? strange... It feels amazing though...