golf-RN Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 10 hours ago, storm3 said: Feel perception will vary player to player and often based on the type of shot. Some are very sensitive to the cover hardness, some the outer mantle hardness, some the core, and some based on particular construction attributes (also largely depends on your baseline). Given that the cover appears to be thinner than the Kirkland 3-piece balls to date, I would not be surprised to hear someone perceiving the ball as harder given that the mantle tends to be the hardest layer (thinner covers tend to accentuate the mantle). I personally tend to be more sensitive to the overall compression off of driver/fairways and the cover/mantle everywhere else (especially balls with thin covers and very firm mantles). My personal construction preference are 4-piece balls with two mantles and a CTU cover (balls with multiple mantles tend to go slightly softer with the outer mantle vs mid-high compression 3-piece balls). Yeah, everbody has there own frame of reference for what they feel. That said, we all agreed that the cover felt much softer than the red stripe, even my wife who plays the Callaway SuperSoft. Edited March 11 by golf-RN Can't spell for 💩 Quote Cobra LTDx 7½º Driver HZRDUS Black RDX 6.5 2021 King Tec 2 hybrid 17º MMT XS 2021 King Tec 4 hybrid 21º MMT XS 2023 Cobra King Tec Utility 2 iron 17º KBS $-Taper Lite stiff 2023 Cobra King Tour 6-GW Nippon Pro Modus³ Tour 105s Kirkland V2 Wedges 2024 Odyssey AI Cruiser Jailbird Winn Dri-Tac LT Standard grips Kirkland V3 Performance Plus | TaylorMade TP5x | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantacigar Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 hours ago, storm3 said: Feel perception will vary player to player and often based on the type of shot. Some are very sensitive to the cover hardness, some the outer mantle hardness, some the core, and some based on particular construction attributes (also largely depends on your baseline). Given that the cover appears to be thinner than the Kirkland 3-piece balls to date, I would not be surprised to hear someone perceiving the ball as harder given that the mantle tends to be the hardest layer (thinner covers tend to accentuate the mantle). I personally tend to be more sensitive to the overall compression off of driver/fairways and the cover/mantle everywhere else (especially balls with thin covers and very firm mantles). My personal construction preference are 4-piece balls with two mantles and a CTU cover (balls with multiple mantles tend to go slightly softer with the outer mantle vs mid-high compression 3-piece balls). I know this will hijack this thread a bit but to your understanding about ball construction, would a 4 piece ball, such as Vice Pro Plus, etc., be a fit for a mid swing speed player? Driver hovers low to mid 90's and 7i hovers around 80ish. From what I've deduced from what I read the four piece would generally fit higher swing speed players. The mid swing speed player wouldn't benefit from the 4 piece performance design. Your thoughts and opinion would be appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golf-RN Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Was able to get out yesterday afternoon and played our local par 3. Grass tee boxes, 75° and sunny with a pretty strong breeze 10-15mph, just a beautiful afternoon. Shortest hole from the back is about 60 yards, longest is 135 yards all carry over water. I played the MM ball alongside the 2024 TP5X. I chose the TP5X because in my hand they feel very similar, in a blind test I could not tell them apart as far as how the cover feels. I have hit the MM ball in my sim for about a week or so and I have found it to feel much softer than the new Ksig red stripe. To me the red stripe is softer feeling than the silver stripe though. I am very impressed with the MM ball. Wedge spin is absolutely fantastic. For me it was drop and stop, or it hits and spins maybe a foot out of its pitch mark. But the most impressive quality was how it played in the wind. I was able to flight this ball down into the wind and it would hold its line so beautifully. I hit my Cobra King Tour GW straight into a 15mph right to left diagonal headwind with a flighted cut, hole was 95 yards to the flag, 3/4 swing, accelerating through the ball, hit it to 2 feet. Ball held its line, dropped and hopped out of its pitch mark. Just a great shot and excellent flight. Even though the cover feels like a TP5X, the TP5X is much firmer in compression, I didn't have a TP5 to compare it to. Off the putter, the MM ball was like butter. I have an AI Jailbird Cruiser with the white face and it was so very smooth. I have loved the KSig ball very much, but right now, I think the MM ball is better and it is the same price as the KSig so there are great options for the budget minded that wants to play a great performing ball. 4 Quote Cobra LTDx 7½º Driver HZRDUS Black RDX 6.5 2021 King Tec 2 hybrid 17º MMT XS 2021 King Tec 4 hybrid 21º MMT XS 2023 Cobra King Tec Utility 2 iron 17º KBS $-Taper Lite stiff 2023 Cobra King Tour 6-GW Nippon Pro Modus³ Tour 105s Kirkland V2 Wedges 2024 Odyssey AI Cruiser Jailbird Winn Dri-Tac LT Standard grips Kirkland V3 Performance Plus | TaylorMade TP5x | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gioreeko Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 3/11/2025 at 5:27 AM, wantacigar said: I know this will hijack this thread a bit but to your understanding about ball construction, would a 4 piece ball, such as Vice Pro Plus, etc., be a fit for a mid swing speed player? Driver hovers low to mid 90's and 7i hovers around 80ish. From what I've deduced from what I read the four piece would generally fit higher swing speed players. The mid swing speed player wouldn't benefit from the 4 piece performance design. Your thoughts and opinion would be appreciated ProV1's are 3 pieces, and work for pretty much everyone. Don't over think the layer conundrum, I think it's a lot of marketing. 1 Quote Driver: PING G425 LST/Callaway Epic Speed LS 3 wood: Taylormade mini 300 2 Hybrid Callaway Maverick 4 Hybrid Taylormade Superfast 5-UW: Ping i210 Maltby TSW sand wedge Odyssey OG 2 Ball stroke lab Titleist ProV1 left dash/Snell MTB-X/Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshm500 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 anyone have an idea which maxfli tour ball profile this MM ball might compare too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahenderX Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, joshm500 said: anyone have an idea which maxfli tour ball profile this MM ball might compare too? It would have to be the Tour X based on compression. I play the Tour S and I love that ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantacigar Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 hours ago, ahenderX said: It would have to be the Tour X based on compression. I play the Tour S and I love that ball. I Play the Tour and really like it. I need to try the S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantacigar Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 On 3/15/2025 at 1:59 PM, gioreeko said: ProV1's are 3 pieces, and work for pretty much everyone. Don't over think the layer conundrum, I think it's a lot of marketing. I know there are different spin characteristics between the ProV-1 and the ProV-1X but would a 92-95 mph swing speed be sufficient to use the ProV-1X? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hougz79 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, wantacigar said: I know there are different spin characteristics between the ProV-1 and the ProV-1X but would a 92-95 mph swing speed be sufficient to use the ProV-1X? Yes. The X is what Titleist recently said in a recent podcast they fit the majority of amateurs into. Most slower swing speeds benefit from higher launch and more spin. 2 1 Quote Ping G440 LST 10.5*, Ventus TR Blue 6X Ping G440 MAX 4W 17*, Ventus TR Red 7X Ping G440 MAX 7W 21*, Ventus TR Blue 8X Titleist T250U 4i, Tour AD VF 75S Ping Blueprint S, 5-PW DG 120 S300 Cleveland RTZ Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 DG TI S400 Scotty Cameron Phantom 7.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krking20 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) This ball seems to play much like any other quality 3 piece urethane ball. Feels like a 90 plus compression ball. Good spin, feels nice around the green. Durable. Good value. Winner Edited March 23 by krking20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IndyArcher Posted March 22 Popular Post Share Posted March 22 Yep, been playing the MM for about three weeks now mixed with Vice Pro+ and Pro V1. The ball is fantastic with the driver. I’ve had several of my longest drives on holes I play frequently, and that in overall cooler weather(low to mid 50’s). Mid irons definitely seem to run out slightly more on these for me, but around the greens I don’t have any trouble getting good stopping power. Feels good off the putter face and only feels ‘clicky’ to me when I hit off-center. I have to say, not only do I find this ball to be one of the, if not THE, best budget ball currently on the market, but I actually think this is currently likely my favorite ball, period. AND it hurts much less when I dump a ball into the pond like I did on the last hole yesterday compared to a Pro V1! Now, if they would simply come out with a quality yellow/green ball, I’d stock up by the quadrillions! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnKHawk Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Tried this ball in the sim & over hundreds of shots with all clubs they hold up very well. The durability is very good. Played on course with it for 9 holes til I lost it but was not really disappointed with any aspect. Above average for about a $1.25 3 piece urethane ball. 1 Quote Driver: Cobra DS-Adapt Max K 9.0 Degree 5 Wood: Callaway Rogue St LS @ 18 Degree Hybrid: Cobra King OS 3-4 Hybrid @ 20.5 Degree Hybrid: Cobra DarkSpeed 5 Hybrid 24 Degree Irons: Callaway Ai 200 6-AW Wedge: Ping Glide 4.0 @ 54 Degree Wedge Ping S159 @ 60 Degree Wedge: Callaway Sureout 2 @ 64 degree Putter: L.A.B. DF3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakeyT Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I have a buddy who used to exclusively play the Kirkland balls due to the price. He's a moderate speed guy that already spins the ball too much off the tee, so I kept telling him he was losing distance due to the high spin nature of the Ksig. Long story short, he got some of the the MM balls & picked up 10+ yards of distance with his driver without changing anything else. I swapped out a couple of my Legatos for a MMs & a Ksig to test them out on my sim. Off the driver, the Legatos were averaging 2500, the MMs were 2350 & the Ksigs were 2900. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyArcher Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Played the MM for 18 holes again late yesterday. I just can't over stress How much I'm liking the ball. The course was completely empty during my second 9, so I hit a 2023 yellow Pro V1 alongside of the MM and the 'value' ball definitely kept up with the brand name at every step. Just ordered several boxes as my standard playing ball this year. I played the back nine first due to a junior tournament of some sort on the front, so I finished on the par 5 #9. I always try to cut over the edge of the pond which I've learned to do pretty well. Last night I had a little too much fade, though, so I'm here to report that the MM ball also sinks every bit as well as a Titleist! fortunately for me it was right at the edge of the water so I was able to retrieve it and save my buck twenty-five! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyArcher Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I am curious why an article from a few weeks back on that other site states that there are TWO MM balls on the USGA conforming list, but I can only find one. The article doesn't mention what the 2nd ball is. Anyone have any insight? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedeuphoria Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 5 hours ago, ShakeyT said: I have a buddy who used to exclusively play the Kirkland balls due to the price. He's a moderate speed guy that already spins the ball too much off the tee, so I kept telling him he was losing distance due to the high spin nature of the Ksig. Long story short, he got some of the the MM balls & picked up 10+ yards of distance with his driver without changing anything else. I swapped out a couple of my Legatos for a MMs & a Ksig to test them out on my sim. Off the driver, the Legatos were averaging 2500, the MMs were 2350 & the Ksigs were 2900. Silver or red ksig? Edited March 24 by speedeuphoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakeyT Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, speedeuphoria said: Silver or red ksig? No idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbeeb374 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 been playing the maxfli tour the last 2 years.. might need to give this a try since i have a sams club 5 min from my house.. can't beat that price, that's for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyArcher Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, kbeeb374 said: been playing the maxfli tour the last 2 years.. might need to give this a try since i have a sams club 5 min from my house.. can't beat that price, that's for sure My personal suspicion is that there are a LOT of people who would enjoy this ball if they give it a chance and aren't too worried about the 'image' of playing one of the big boys balls. No ball is for everyone, but I think this has potential for some mass appeal. If not, then I'm going to have all the golf balls I need for a long time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm3 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) On 3/24/2025 at 10:20 AM, IndyArcher said: I am curious why an article from a few weeks back on that other site states that there are TWO MM balls on the USGA conforming list, but I can only find one. The article doesn't mention what the 2nd ball is. Anyone have any insight? There was a “Pro Series” stamp on the conforming list earlier this year (3P-2C 314 dimples) but it appears to have been removed (Walmart must have requested it be removed as submissions stay on the list for 12 months before falling off). My guess is that Walmart had balls made by two different white label factories and the Pro Series 2 won out. Edited March 25 by storm3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jimmy Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 I have enough steak in the freezer to last another month, but when I return to buy my beef, I'll pick up a couple boxes of these. Quote AI Smoke TD Max Ventus TR Blue 6s TM Stealth Plus 2 5 wood (-2 degrees) Ventus Red 8s Apex Pro 3 Hybrid Ventus Blue 8s Stealth UDI 4 Ventus Blue 8s Gen 7 0311P 5-6 PX LZ 6.5 0317T 7-G PX LZ 6.5 RTX Zipcore 54 PM Grind 60 LAB OZ1i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyArcher Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, storm3 said: There was a “Pro Series” stamp on the conforming list earlier this year (3P-2C 314 dimples) but it appears to have been removed (Walmart must have requested it be removed as submissions stay on the list for 12 months before falling off). My guess is that Walmart had balls made by two different white label factories and the Pro Series 2 won out. Thanks for the info. I was sorta hoping that the 2nd was a yellow version. Alas, maybe in the future. I was curious why the available ball is a "Pro Series 2" when I had never seen any other version out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbeeb374 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 20 hours ago, IndyArcher said: aren't too worried about the 'image' of playing one of the big boys balls i am all about a deal.. would it be great if it looked cool too? sure but if it performs and looks ugly but is only a dollar a ball? sign me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyArcher Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, kbeeb374 said: i am all about a deal.. would it be great if it looked cool too? sure but if it performs and looks ugly but is only a dollar a ball? sign me up I'm not sure why people think it looks ugly. I mean, yeah, there's a big "M" on the ball, but it is Sam's Member's Mark, and the logo is sort of a double-M look. Could be a bit smaller, I suppose. Then again, My last name starts with M, so I sort of consider it my personalized, monogrammed ball! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golf-RN Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 hours ago, IndyArcher said: I'm not sure why people think it looks ugly. I mean, yeah, there's a big "M" on the ball, but it is Sam's Member's Mark, and the logo is sort of a double-M look. Could be a bit smaller, I suppose. Then again, My last name starts with M, so I sort of consider it my personalized, monogrammed ball! I actually don't mind the logo either. I would go a step further with it and put the logo all over it like the TP5 pix balls lol 1 1 Quote Cobra LTDx 7½º Driver HZRDUS Black RDX 6.5 2021 King Tec 2 hybrid 17º MMT XS 2021 King Tec 4 hybrid 21º MMT XS 2023 Cobra King Tec Utility 2 iron 17º KBS $-Taper Lite stiff 2023 Cobra King Tour 6-GW Nippon Pro Modus³ Tour 105s Kirkland V2 Wedges 2024 Odyssey AI Cruiser Jailbird Winn Dri-Tac LT Standard grips Kirkland V3 Performance Plus | TaylorMade TP5x | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbeeb374 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 21 hours ago, IndyArcher said: I'm not sure why people think it looks ugly. I mean, yeah, there's a big "M" on the ball, but it is Sam's Member's Mark, and the logo is sort of a double-M look. Could be a bit smaller, I suppose. Then again, My last name starts with M, so I sort of consider it my personalized, monogrammed ball! Oh i actually don't mind the look either. i think it looks way better than the ksigs everyone loves. i was just saying it could be crazy ugly and i would still play it if it performed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golf-RN Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 https://www.golfmonthly.com/reviews/balls/sams-club-members-mark-golf-ball-review 1 Quote Cobra LTDx 7½º Driver HZRDUS Black RDX 6.5 2021 King Tec 2 hybrid 17º MMT XS 2021 King Tec 4 hybrid 21º MMT XS 2023 Cobra King Tec Utility 2 iron 17º KBS $-Taper Lite stiff 2023 Cobra King Tour 6-GW Nippon Pro Modus³ Tour 105s Kirkland V2 Wedges 2024 Odyssey AI Cruiser Jailbird Winn Dri-Tac LT Standard grips Kirkland V3 Performance Plus | TaylorMade TP5x | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANimz Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I will definitely give them a try. I like to try and find a great budget ball. Fan of Vice, Snell(before the bad cover year), and the Maxfli balls. Was never a huge fan of the kirklands, but I get the play for the price. I have a Sams Club near me, where as I would have to order the rest online. Hopefully they have them in store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcjim Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Yet to find one in the woods so not many around here using them as far as i can tell. Pick up Titleist and Kirklands every time out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyArcher Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 6 hours ago, bcjim said: Yet to find one in the woods so not many around here using them as far as i can tell. Pick up Titleist and Kirklands every time out. The KSigs have a near cult following. That's clear by the reprimand I received by someone simply from comparing my experience with the MM with my experience with the KSig in the red stripe thread, after already stating that I like the latest KSig. It will take a while for the MM to catch on to any large degree I'm sure. Plus, it's possible that that the MM won't quite catch on with the Upper Lower class golfers like the Costco ball just because of how some perceive Costco vs Sam's. Personally, I just want the best ball at the best price. I'm liking the Sam's ball a bit better than the Costco ball. In fact, at this point I'd say I like it every much as my Vice Pro Plus. I'll probably stock a tote to keep on hand just in the event that they would disappear due to lawsuits, lack of demand, etc. I'm sure I could play it for a while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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