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10 hours ago, storm3 said:


Feel perception will vary player to player and often based on the type of shot. Some are very sensitive to the cover hardness, some the outer mantle hardness, some the core, and some based on particular construction attributes (also largely depends on your baseline). Given that the cover appears to be thinner than the Kirkland 3-piece balls to date, I would not be surprised to hear someone perceiving the ball as harder given that the mantle tends to be the hardest layer (thinner covers tend to accentuate the mantle). 
 

I personally tend to be more sensitive to the overall compression off of driver/fairways and the cover/mantle everywhere else (especially balls with thin covers and very firm mantles). My personal construction preference are 4-piece balls with two mantles and a CTU cover (balls with multiple mantles tend to go slightly softer with the outer mantle vs mid-high compression 3-piece balls).

Yeah, everbody has there own frame of reference for what they feel. That said, we all agreed that the cover felt much softer than the red stripe, even my wife who plays the Callaway SuperSoft.

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10 hours ago, storm3 said:


Feel perception will vary player to player and often based on the type of shot. Some are very sensitive to the cover hardness, some the outer mantle hardness, some the core, and some based on particular construction attributes (also largely depends on your baseline). Given that the cover appears to be thinner than the Kirkland 3-piece balls to date, I would not be surprised to hear someone perceiving the ball as harder given that the mantle tends to be the hardest layer (thinner covers tend to accentuate the mantle). 
 

I personally tend to be more sensitive to the overall compression off of driver/fairways and the cover/mantle everywhere else (especially balls with thin covers and very firm mantles). My personal construction preference are 4-piece balls with two mantles and a CTU cover (balls with multiple mantles tend to go slightly softer with the outer mantle vs mid-high compression 3-piece balls).

I know this will hijack this thread a bit but to your understanding about ball construction, would a 4 piece ball, such as Vice Pro Plus, etc., be a fit for a mid swing speed player?  Driver hovers low to mid 90's and 7i hovers around 80ish.  From what I've deduced from what I read the four piece would generally fit higher swing speed players.  The mid swing speed player wouldn't benefit from the 4 piece performance design.  

Your thoughts and opinion would be appreciated

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Was able to get out yesterday afternoon and played our local par 3. Grass tee boxes, 75° and sunny with a pretty strong breeze 10-15mph, just a beautiful afternoon. Shortest hole from the back is about 60 yards, longest is 135 yards all carry over water. I played the MM ball alongside the 2024 TP5X. I chose the TP5X because in my hand they feel very similar, in a blind test I could not tell them apart as far as how the cover feels. I have hit the MM ball in my sim for about a week or so and I have found it to feel much softer than the new Ksig red stripe. To me the red stripe is softer feeling than the silver stripe though.

 

I am very impressed with the MM ball. Wedge spin is absolutely fantastic. For me it was drop and stop, or it hits and spins maybe a foot out of its pitch mark. But the most impressive quality was how it played in the wind. I was able to flight this ball down into the wind and it would hold its line so beautifully. I hit my Cobra King Tour GW straight into a 15mph right to left diagonal headwind with a flighted cut, hole was 95 yards to the flag, 3/4 swing, accelerating through the ball, hit it to 2 feet. Ball held its line, dropped and hopped out of its pitch mark. Just a great shot and excellent flight. Even though the cover feels like a TP5X, the TP5X is much firmer in compression, I didn't have a TP5 to compare it to. Off the putter, the MM ball was like butter. I have an AI Jailbird Cruiser with the white face and it was so very smooth. I have loved the KSig ball very much, but right now, I think the MM ball is better and it is the same price as the KSig so there are great options for the budget minded that wants to play a great performing ball.

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On 3/11/2025 at 5:27 AM, wantacigar said:

I know this will hijack this thread a bit but to your understanding about ball construction, would a 4 piece ball, such as Vice Pro Plus, etc., be a fit for a mid swing speed player?  Driver hovers low to mid 90's and 7i hovers around 80ish.  From what I've deduced from what I read the four piece would generally fit higher swing speed players.  The mid swing speed player wouldn't benefit from the 4 piece performance design.  

Your thoughts and opinion would be appreciated

ProV1's are 3 pieces, and work for pretty much everyone. Don't over think the layer conundrum, I think it's a lot of marketing. 

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On 3/15/2025 at 1:59 PM, gioreeko said:

ProV1's are 3 pieces, and work for pretty much everyone. Don't over think the layer conundrum, I think it's a lot of marketing. 

I know there are different spin characteristics between the ProV-1 and the ProV-1X but would a 92-95 mph swing speed be sufficient to use the ProV-1X?

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2 hours ago, wantacigar said:

I know there are different spin characteristics between the ProV-1 and the ProV-1X but would a 92-95 mph swing speed be sufficient to use the ProV-1X?

Yes.  The X is what Titleist recently said in a recent podcast they fit the majority of amateurs into.  Most slower swing speeds benefit from higher launch and more spin.

 

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Tried this ball in the sim & over hundreds of shots with all clubs they hold up very well. The durability is very good. Played on course with it for 9 holes til I lost it but was not really disappointed with any aspect. Above average for about a $1.25 3 piece urethane ball.

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I have a buddy who used to exclusively play the Kirkland balls due to the price. He's a moderate speed guy that already spins the ball too much off the tee, so I kept telling him he was losing distance due to the high spin nature of the Ksig. Long story short, he got some of the the MM balls & picked up 10+ yards of distance with his driver without changing anything else. 

 

I swapped out a couple of my Legatos for a MMs & a Ksig to test them out on my sim. Off the driver, the Legatos were averaging 2500, the MMs were 2350 & the Ksigs were 2900.

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Played the MM for 18 holes again late yesterday. I just can't over stress How much I'm liking the ball. The course was completely empty during my second 9, so I hit a 2023 yellow Pro V1 alongside of the MM and the 'value' ball definitely kept up with the brand name at every step. Just ordered several boxes as my standard playing ball this year. 

 

I played the back nine first due to a junior tournament of some sort on the front, so I finished on the par 5 #9. I always try to cut over the edge of the pond which I've learned to do pretty well. Last night I had a little too much fade, though, so I'm here to report that the MM ball also sinks every bit as well as a Titleist! fortunately for me it was right at the edge of the water so I was able to retrieve it and save my buck twenty-five! spacer.png

 

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5 hours ago, ShakeyT said:

I have a buddy who used to exclusively play the Kirkland balls due to the price. He's a moderate speed guy that already spins the ball too much off the tee, so I kept telling him he was losing distance due to the high spin nature of the Ksig. Long story short, he got some of the the MM balls & picked up 10+ yards of distance with his driver without changing anything else. 

 

I swapped out a couple of my Legatos for a MMs & a Ksig to test them out on my sim. Off the driver, the Legatos were averaging 2500, the MMs were 2350 & the Ksigs were 2900.

Silver or red ksig?

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4 minutes ago, kbeeb374 said:

been playing the maxfli tour the last 2 years.. might need to give this a try since i have a sams club 5 min from my house.. can't beat that price, that's for sure

 

 

My personal suspicion is that there are a LOT of people who would enjoy this ball if they give it a chance and aren't too worried about the 'image' of playing one of the big boys balls. No ball is for everyone, but I think this has potential for some mass appeal. If not, then I'm going to have all the golf balls I need for a long time! spacer.png

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On 3/24/2025 at 10:20 AM, IndyArcher said:

I am curious why an article from a few weeks back on that other site states that there are TWO MM balls on the USGA conforming list, but I can only find one. The article doesn't mention what the 2nd ball is. Anyone have any insight?


There was a “Pro Series” stamp on the conforming list earlier this year (3P-2C 314 dimples) but it appears to have been removed (Walmart must have requested it be removed as submissions stay on the list for 12 months before falling off). My guess is that Walmart had balls made by two different white label factories and the Pro Series 2 won out. 
 

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3 hours ago, storm3 said:


There was a “Pro Series” stamp on the conforming list earlier this year (3P-2C 314 dimples) but it appears to have been removed (Walmart must have requested it be removed as submissions stay on the list for 12 months before falling off). My guess is that Walmart had balls made by two different white label factories and the Pro Series 2 won out. 
 

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Thanks for the info. I was sorta hoping that the 2nd was a yellow version. Alas, maybe in the future. I was curious why the available ball is a "Pro Series 2" when I had never seen any other version out there!

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1 hour ago, kbeeb374 said:

i am all about a deal.. would it be great if it looked cool too? sure but if it performs and looks ugly but is only a dollar a ball? sign me up

 

I'm not sure why people think it looks ugly. I mean, yeah, there's a big "M" on the ball, but it is Sam's Member's Mark, and the logo is sort of a double-M look. Could be a bit smaller, I suppose. Then again, My last name starts with M, so I sort of consider it my personalized, monogrammed ball! spacer.png

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3 hours ago, IndyArcher said:

 

I'm not sure why people think it looks ugly. I mean, yeah, there's a big "M" on the ball, but it is Sam's Member's Mark, and the logo is sort of a double-M look. Could be a bit smaller, I suppose. Then again, My last name starts with M, so I sort of consider it my personalized, monogrammed ball! spacer.png

I actually don't mind the logo either. I would go a step further with it and put the logo all over it like the TP5 pix balls lol

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21 hours ago, IndyArcher said:

I'm not sure why people think it looks ugly. I mean, yeah, there's a big "M" on the ball, but it is Sam's Member's Mark, and the logo is sort of a double-M look. Could be a bit smaller, I suppose. Then again, My last name starts with M, so I sort of consider it my personalized, monogrammed ball!

 

Oh i actually don't mind the look either. i think it looks way better than the ksigs everyone loves. i was just saying it could be crazy ugly and i would still play it if it performed

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I will definitely give them a try.  I like to try and find a great budget ball.  Fan of Vice, Snell(before the bad cover year), and the Maxfli balls.  Was never a huge fan of the kirklands, but I get the play for the price.  I have a Sams Club near me, where as I would have to order the rest online.  Hopefully they have them in store.

 

 

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6 hours ago, bcjim said:

Yet to find one in the woods so not many around here using them as far as i can tell. 

 

Pick up Titleist and Kirklands every time out. 

 

The KSigs have a near cult following. That's clear by the reprimand I received by someone simply from comparing my experience with the MM with my experience with the KSig in the red stripe thread, after already stating that I like the latest KSig. It will take a while for the MM to catch on to any large degree I'm sure. Plus, it's possible that that the MM won't quite catch on with the Upper Lower class golfers like the Costco ball just because of how some perceive Costco vs Sam's. Personally, I just want the best ball at the best price. I'm liking the Sam's ball a bit better than the Costco ball. In fact, at this point I'd say I like it every much as my Vice Pro Plus. I'll probably stock a tote to keep on hand just in the event that they would disappear due to lawsuits, lack of demand, etc. I'm sure I could play it for a while. 

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