Zero Torque- TaylorMade Spider!

[joshm500]

If the spider had customizable options i may have taken it over my s2s jailbird. I think they made it look fantastic

[hwwong]

33 minutes ago, JStang said:

 

Quite a bit larger. I'm sure the next version will be a bit slimmed down if this trend continues. I had one in my cart but probably one of those putter that you want to try before buying I would guess. 

Oh wow, thats quite large

[Kmac]

4 hours ago, GolfRat1 said:

I was at a PGASS yesterday and was told they would be in the store, Thursday morning 😬

I talked to them and they told me the same thing. And that they had been getting a lot of calls and interest as well. Guess I'll be there Thursday morning.

[boggyman]

Rolled one in store yesterday. They’re not that large and the feel is good but at only 1* of shaft lean, the lean is not very noticeable! Almost like a standard center shaft putter other than the offset grip. Will be a great putter but I backed out on a purchase! 

[boggyman]

1 hour ago, JStang said:

 

Quite a bit larger. I'm sure the next version will be a bit slimmed down if this trend continues. I had one in my cart but probably one of those putter that you want to try before buying I would guess. 

Definitely not LAB large though. 

Edited June 3 by boggyman

[Kmac]

Also, that is quite large. Thats what she said? 

 

Does anyone who has one in hand already also have a LAB OZ.i to compare it to? Mainly the feel and weight, I thought the OZi was too heavy and moved on from it.

Edited June 3 by Kmac
misspelled HAND, lol

[JStang]

11 minutes ago, boggyman said:

Definitely not LAB large though. 

 

The OZ1 doesn't seem that big. I played against a guy who had one and it seemed fine. Now the DF3....yuck. 

[TiScape]

40 minutes ago, hwwong said:

Oh wow, thats quite large

 

[TiScape]

12 minutes ago, Kmac said:

Also, that is quite large. Thats what she said? 

 

Does anyone who has one in hard already also have a LAB OZ.i to compare it to? Mainly the feel and weight, I thought the OZi was too heavy and moved on from it.

Damn, u got me by 11 minutes! 😩

[KnoxvilleReb]

I'll be interested in trying one of these out. I have a DF3 that I recently went away from. Had a really hard time lagging it from over 30 feet and also found it more difficult to see my line than with a more "standard" putter. 

[Eren]

2 hours ago, Kmac said:

Also, that is quite large. Thats what she said? 

 

Does anyone who has one in hard already also have a LAB OZ.i to compare it to? Mainly the feel and weight, I thought the OZi was too heavy and moved on from it.

I have an Oz.i and the TM is slightly bigger, more inline with my DF3 but slightly shorter front to back. I can post TM and Oz side by side later this week when my rep finally sends mine out to me. 
 

TM felt right in the middle of Oz and DF3 in terms of stability but I feel I roll it the best with the TM out of the 3. On course playing will ultimately determine if it’s #1 or back up for me 

[bd59]

As stated earlier, it’s not huge at all.  The feel is a bit firmer than the Tour X but not bad at all.  I can’t see any shaft lean at all, but that’s due to me have a very neutral hands setup- no forward press-. I do wish they could’ve have done something different with the alignment line….. that little mark doesn’t do much for me, especially with center shafted putter. Overall, I’m impressed with the roll and will give it a shot. I went CB 36”.

[Chubbydog]

3 hours ago, Kmac said:

Also, that is quite large. Thats what she said? 

 

Does anyone who has one in hard already also have a LAB OZ.i to compare it to? Mainly the feel and weight, I thought the OZi was too heavy and moved on from it.

I think it's just a tad bigger than the OZi. Feels a little heavier as well, but not in a bad way.  It feels very balanced.  I personally thought the OZ was a little on the light side, and I've been playing the DF3, just because it felt heavier for me.  This one is right in between, and a real nice feel weight wise for my liking. 

Edited June 3 by Chubbydog

[Kmac]

34 minutes ago, Chubbydog said:

I think it's just a tad bigger than the OZi. Feels a little heavier as well, but not in a bad way.  It feels very balanced.  I personally thought the OZ was a little on the light side, and I've been playing the DF3, just because it felt heavier for me.  This one is right in between, and a real nice feel weight wise for my liking. 

Thanks for the pics! Yeah the OZ isnt all that big, at least in my opinion. I did think it felt a little heavy though.

[Kmac]

1 hour ago, Eren said:

I have an Oz.i and the TM is slightly bigger, more inline with my DF3 but slightly shorter front to back. I can post TM and Oz side by side later this week when my rep finally sends mine out to me. 
 

TM felt right in the middle of Oz and DF3 in terms of stability but I feel I roll it the best with the TM out of the 3. On course playing will ultimately determine if it’s #1 or back up for me 

Does the TM feel heavy to you?

[PabloChestobar]

Really looking forward to rolling one of these. Going to go to my local store to see if they have them today. From everything I’ve seen, the ZT looks like a more premium putter compared to previous Spider iterations. 

[Eren]

52 minutes ago, Kmac said:

Does the TM feel heavy to you?

It does not, it’s hard to explain but as a poster above me said it feels more balanced. While I believe the head weight is slight heavier (maybe 20g) it’s not very noticeable as it’s spread out over a larger area. It’s hard to explain but it feels better in my hands and in the swing - I imagine the steel shaft may play into that a bit as well. 
 

I actually prefer the KBs steel in TM over the Accra in my Oz. That said nothing beats the TPT in the DF3…

[Chubbydog]

10 minutes ago, Eren said:

It does not, it’s hard to explain but as a poster above me said it feels more balanced. While I believe the head weight is slight heavier (maybe 20g) it’s not very noticeable as it’s spread out over a larger area. It’s hard to explain but it feels better in my hands and in the swing - I imagine the steel shaft may play into that a bit as well. 
 

I actually prefer the KBs steel in TM over the Accra in my Oz. That said nothing beats the TPT in the DF3…

I agree with this 100%.  It feels slightly heavier than the Oz, but not as heavy as the DF3.  To me it's almost the perfect weight.  With the insert, I think it really gets rolling quick.  Might be tougher to putt through the fringe, but it's great on the greens.  It feels just heavy enough to keep a slow tempo, but not too light where I end up pulling them.  I think TM did a good job on this one though.  

[awtryau89]

5 hours ago, Kmac said:

Also, that is quite large. Thats what she said? 

 

Does anyone who has one in hand already also have a LAB OZ.i to compare it to? Mainly the feel and weight, I thought the OZi was too heavy and moved on from it.

I have a custom Oz1i and just purchased a ZT. I got the CB model with KBS graphite. I tried both in store a good bit and settled on the CB. I judge these putters by how easy they are to roll the ball. The new TM stripe ball is a perfect way to judge even though I hate the ball and would never play it. Grab some in store and use them to check the ease of roll. The ZT is just much softer feeling and heavier for sure. I really couldn’t say which one is more balanced. The ZT is just so good. I had a Betti and it never gave me the confidence and roll of the Lab. It was sold. The TM and Lab both roll the ball end over end so easily without any deviation on even a bad stroke. Going to try this out this afternoon then our greens are punched this week so really won’t know anything about the putter unless I play elsewhere. 

Edited June 3 by awtryau89

[Kmac]

Good deal, I really like the KBS shaft TM uses as well. Much better than the steel shaft in the DF3 I had, IMO

[ck800]

Phantom 5.5 / ZT / DF3 size comparison

 

 

I got a 35" standard and 36" CB

• Both feel slightly heavier than my "heavier" head weight DF3
• Standard might feel slightly heavier than the CB, but it's super close
• 10/10 build quality
• Standard assembled in Taiwan, CB in Mexico (just thought this was interesting)

I'll probably keep the CB because the standard is so close to my standard DF3 and I don't like glossy shafts

 

[Pigbodies]

I asked TMGolf Customer Support this question:

 

Can the loft and lie be adjusted on the new ZT Spider Putter?

 

Here was the response:

 

The sole featured a chambered curvature to cover a wide range of player types. The sole's curvature works with the toe up position to encourage proper alignment and flush soling of the putter head against the ground.

As a result, it's not recommended to adjust the loft and lie angle. The TM Custom Shop is not taking orders for the Spider ZT.

 

Hep

[HONGxHONG]

just picked up 34 standard one from local store, and added little extra top lines.

 

[ck800]

Took the 36” CB out today, rolls extremely nice. The milled lines frame the ball super well which I was not expecting
 

Ball position and how much to lean the shaft is weird coming from playing the DF3 since release, but 
amazing first impression (or maybe I can just finally admit I like center shafted putters)

[Kmac]

1 hour ago, HONGxHONG said:

just picked up 34 standard one from local store, and added little extra top lines.

 

That actually looks really good 

[HONGxHONG]

2 minutes ago, Kmac said:

That actually looks really good 

 

about to add white top line behind, will post if it turns out well.

[Kmac]

1 minute ago, HONGxHONG said:

 

about to add white top line behind, will post if it turns out well.

Yeah if it turns out good I’d be curious to see. What are you doing the lines with?

[HONGxHONG]

It turned out not so perfect, but still good to use.

 

 

[ProjectX_Mizuno]

Has anyone rolled the broomstick version yet?

[DNice26]

10 minutes ago, HONGxHONG said:

It turned out not so perfect, but still good to use.

 

 

Automotive pin striping?  I used it on a Scotty Phantom and it came out great.