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shortshadow · April 16

I guess my main question is...

Why wasn't Rory acting that way all tournament? Or was he?

My position is, act like someone that belongs on a golf course. Displaying anti-social behavior while around other beings is odd ball to me.

FootWedge16 · April 16

I wouldn't talk to Bryson either. He's an annoying dork who has managed to recreate his image through youtube. He's still the same guy that rightfully caused this reaction from Brooks.

Titleist99 · April 16

33 minutes ago, FootWedge16 said:

I wouldn't talk to Bryson either. He's an annoying dork who has managed to recreate his image through youtube. He's still the same guy that rightfully caused this reaction from Brooks.

Speaking of Brooks. Don't him and Bryson have a phony friendship going right now? Aren't they new besties? 😂🤣

Titleist99 · April 16

1 hour ago, shortshadow said:

I guess my main question is...

Why wasn't Rory acting that way all tournament? Or was he?

My position is, act like someone that belongs on a golf course. Displaying anti-social behavior while around other beings is odd ball to me.

That's totally ridiculous. It's a sporting event. Athletes are not there to socialize. 😂

I think that you know that.

cardoustie · April 16

2 hours ago, StoutKing said:

Gosh, I just can't agree that the layup was a blunder. Perfect lie from 75 yards with 20 yards of buffer. A tour pro like Rory is going to make birdie half the time. It takes a big number out of play. In reality he misses it that badly 1 of 300 times.

Driver off tee, 7 iron in with good drive, bad drive … then lay up

Duct Tape · April 16

Wondering if shortshadow might be an @MattyO1984 alias trying to get the page count over 200?

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shortshadow · April 16

8 minutes ago, Titleist99 said:

That's totally ridiculous. It's a sporting event. Athletes are not there to socialize. 😂

I think that you know that.

It's not about socializing, it's about acting reasonable.

I can point out the hypocrisy:

1) I bet when these guys are playing for money in non-tournaments, they dont act like a robots. Why do it for a trophy or jacket? Money trumps all they say.

2) this board praises Tigers fierce competitiveness by being focused on the course. It's a flex. But Bryson is hated for his fierce belief in science and golf. It's a flex too. One is hated and the other is not.

Both are flexes, but are not treated equally.

There is no reason to treat a tournament like life or death. Sure, be focused as it's a grind and your income isn't guaranteed...but no need to act anti-social.

I see tonnes of golfers competing at a high level and not treating their opponent oddly.

Let me be clear, I have no idea if these two have beef which could validate one golfer acting differently to another, and i have no idea the extent to which Rory was being POSSIBLY unsportsmanlike.

Sure 4M on the line is a lot of money, but both guys are loaded. Rory needing the Grand Slam so bad he has to act super focused and offputting(supposedly)? Eh, I don't buy it. I don't buy the excuses.

redfirebird08 · April 16

2 hours ago, shortshadow said:

Come on, you gotta admit it's cheesy to treat sport like war.

Be focused. Don't be a robot.

It's corny...and I'm a big Tiger fan...and always thought it was corny.

Just be normal. A little more focused sure...but acting not human-like is weird behavior

The one hole where someone made a joke on the tee box and everyone was laughing...but Rory. It makes you look weird.

Basically it's an odd flex to put on a personal like that. And I like Rory.

Ben Hogan did it long before Tiger. Seems it was pretty effective for both of them. And I would say it was pretty effective for Rory on Sunday as well. Bryson was a mess.

Pent08 · April 16

2 hours ago, shortshadow said:

I guess my main question is...

Why wasn't Rory acting that way all tournament? Or was he?

My position is, act like someone that belongs on a golf course. Displaying anti-social behavior while around other beings is odd ball to me.

Is this a parody of a Rory hater? Please tell me it is

shortshadow · April 16

14 minutes ago, redfirebird08 said:

Ben Hogan did it long before Tiger. Seems it was pretty effective for both of them. And I would say it was pretty effective for Rory on Sunday as well. Bryson was a mess.

Athletes are performing at all time highs without negativity.

The villain excuse is lame.

Posters want hate and negative feelings between competitors for a questionable margin increase in performance.

It's unnecessary.

redfirebird08 · April 16

2 minutes ago, shortshadow said:

Athletes are performing at all time highs without negativity.

The villain excuse is lame.

Posters want hate and negative feelings between competitors for a questionable margin increase in performance.

It's unnecessary.

Different strokes for different folks. It worked for Hogan & Tiger. Pretty undeniable when you look at their track record. Jack Nicklaus wasn't exactly friendly to his competitors during rounds as well. He was nicer to them after the rounds, but not during the round.

CasualLie · April 16

3 hours ago, shortshadow said:

Assuming all this is real, and it might not be...but there is quite the act going on....

Golfers are humans supposedly, correct?

Why is there this push to make fierce competition normalized? It's kinda corny...the whole "I'm not saying a word to my opponent. This is war"

It just gets really cheesy in sports. Just act normal. Guarantee non of those guys are overly chatty to the point another golfer has to tell them to stop talking to them. Just be normal.

I'll never understand the need to morph into some different persona to compete.

This seems like a one off thing for Rory. Maybe he experimented. Maybe there is some small beef behind the scenes between them about LIV or something. Whatever.

Still no need to do some 180 persona flip.

It's not that complicated. Rory's game plan was to be in his own "bubble". This was verified by Rotella himself. It's Brooksie making a big deal about it adding in the totally unnecessary "that's not me" snide remark.

And this was on top of his repeated narrative that if his irons were working "things would be different". As if the green jacket was his and he lost it.

I'm all for top athletes having supreme confidence and a bit of deflection, but Brooksie is just plain delusional.

Someone remind him he also blew the exhibition tourney the week before in Miami.

shortshadow · April 16

9 minutes ago, redfirebird08 said:

Different strokes for different folks. It worked for Hogan & Tiger. Pretty undeniable when you look at their track record. Jack Nicklaus wasn't exactly friendly to his competitors during rounds as well. He was nicer to them after the rounds, but not during the round.

Acting super focused doesn't do anything is my point.

I would suggest tiger and hogan had the skills.

Why change how you play in a tournament than how you practice? Seems like it could be counter intuitive.

Players should be at their most relaxed...not most tense...imo.

I see it as an unnecessary flex with questionable marginable gains. My opinion.

To point out the hypocrisy...i thought LE and military want cool headed, calm operators in difficult situations...not emotionally tense beings?

There is a current trend happening in the NFL with QBs. Arguably the most difficult job in mainstream sports. The trend is to not draft a QB behind one you have faith in. Why? Pschology. The trend is that QBs are under a lot of pressure already, and having a backup that is good will make the current starter second guess his performances and kill his game. It counter intuitive to competition producing results, but it's rooted in something that makes sense.

My point is, don't change your persona from your practice rounds. Be focused...but not a complete 180 change.

Again...this is assuming there isn't a beef between Rory and Bryson.

Just go play relaxed and normal.

bekgolf · April 16

Congrats to Rory. He knew what he needed to do and he did it. Fantastic execution, fantastic victory against a very talented field of players.

Winning by birdying the first playoff hole was a strong finish. I can't remember a Masters that had this much drama all the way to the end, 2025 will go down as one of the best Masters ever.

BlackDiamondPar5 · April 16

38 minutes ago, shortshadow said:

Acting super focused doesn't do anything is my point.

I would suggest tiger and hogan had the skills.

Why change how you play in a tournament than how you practice? Seems like it could be counter intuitive.

Players should be at their most relaxed...not most tense...imo.

I see it as an unnecessary flex with questionable marginable gains. My opinion.

To point out the hypocrisy...i thought LE and military want cool headed, calm operators in difficult situations...not emotionally tense beings?

There is a current trend happening in the NFL with QBs. Arguably the most difficult job in mainstream sports. The trend is to not draft a QB behind one you have faith in. Why? Pschology. The trend is that QBs are under a lot of pressure already, and having a backup that is good will make the current starter second guess his performances and kill his game. It counter intuitive to competition producing results, but it's rooted in something that makes sense.

My point is, don't change your persona from your practice rounds. Be focused...but not a complete 180 change.

Again...this is assuming there isn't a beef between Rory and Bryson.

Just go play relaxed and normal.

And you know how they should act because?

Edited April 16 by BlackDiamondPar5

BSI99 · April 16

39 minutes ago, shortshadow said:

Acting super focused doesn't do anything is my point.

I would suggest tiger and hogan had the skills.

Why change how you play in a tournament than how you practice? Seems like it could be counter intuitive.

Players should be at their most relaxed...not most tense...imo.

I see it as an unnecessary flex with questionable marginable gains. My opinion.

To point out the hypocrisy...i thought LE and military want cool headed, calm operators in difficult situations...not emotionally tense beings?

There is a current trend happening in the NFL with QBs. Arguably the most difficult job in mainstream sports. The trend is to not draft a QB behind one you have faith in. Why? Pschology. The trend is that QBs are under a lot of pressure already, and having a backup that is good will make the current starter second guess his performances and kill his game. It counter intuitive to competition producing results, but it's rooted in something that makes sense.

My point is, don't change your persona from your practice rounds. Be focused...but not a complete 180 change.

Again...this is assuming there isn't a beef between Rory and Bryson.

Just go play relaxed and normal.

Tiger is just as focused when he's practicing as when he's in a tournament.

NosajNeelik · April 16

4 hours ago, shortshadow said:

Assuming all this is real, and it might not be...but there is quite the act going on....

Golfers are humans supposedly, correct?

Why is there this push to make fierce competition normalized? It's kinda corny...the whole "I'm not saying a word to my opponent. This is war"

It just gets really cheesy in sports. Just act normal. Guarantee non of those guys are overly chatty to the point another golfer has to tell them to stop talking to them. Just be normal.

I'll never understand the need to morph into some different persona to compete.

This seems like a one off thing for Rory. Maybe he experimented. Maybe there is some small beef behind the scenes between them about LIV or something. Whatever.

Still no need to do some 180 persona flip.

I’m not sure how you don’t understand how Rory in the lead on Sunday to finally win his masters isn’t “normal”. Have you played any competitive golf?? It’s not the same and that round I just described is probably the most pressure ever for Rory in his pro life. Maybe let people just do what they have to to compete, they’re the pros not us.

NosajNeelik · April 16

45 minutes ago, shortshadow said:

Acting super focused doesn't do anything is my point.

Is this a serious comment??

If so, it’s absolutely ridiculous.

Edited April 16 by NosajNeelik

NosajNeelik · April 16

1 hour ago, shortshadow said:

Athletes are performing at all time highs without negativity.

The villain excuse is lame.

Posters want hate and negative feelings between competitors for a questionable margin increase in performance.

It's unnecessary.

There’s zero evidence of any of this. Seems like you like to invent narratives to prove some point that to me, make zero sense.

Keeping to yourself during a competitive round isn’t HATE or being a villain. It’s being a winner. In reality Rory shouldn’t have been so cordial on the first tee (did you miss he did that) and called him a clown for his ridiculous entrance.

Edited April 16 by NosajNeelik

shortshadow · April 16

5 minutes ago, Thollo said:

Tiger is just as focused when he's practicing as when he's in a tournament.

Tiger wasn't raised normal. His dad rode his behind. Tiger is kind of different here in this talk. Most kids aren't born and raised to play a sport with a parent suffocating them to be great.

It worked for Tiger. But there are tonnes of good golfers out there playing at a high level without that mentality.

You can argue its between one major or 10...I still don't see the need for it. Just be a normal human that puts in the work. No need for acts

shortshadow · April 16

6 minutes ago, NosajNeelik said:

I’m not sure how you don’t understand how Rory in the lead on Sunday to finally win his masters isn’t “normal”. Have you played any competitive golf?? It’s not the same and that round I just described is probably the most pressure ever for Rory in his pro life. Maybe let people just do what they have to to compete, they’re the pros not us.

Just play normal and relaxed...no need for acts...that's my point.

shortshadow · April 16

6 minutes ago, NosajNeelik said:

Is this a serious comment??

To the point you have to do a 180 persona? Nah...not buying it...even with 4M on the line.

Play relaxed.

azgreg · April 16

CasualLie · April 16

44 minutes ago, shortshadow said:

Acting super focused doesn't do anything is my point.

I would suggest tiger and hogan had the skills.

Why change how you play in a tournament than how you practice? Seems like it could be counter intuitive.

Players should be at their most relaxed...not most tense...imo.

I see it as an unnecessary flex with questionable marginable gains. My opinion.

To point out the hypocrisy...i thought LE and military want cool headed, calm operators in difficult situations...not emotionally tense beings?

There is a current trend happening in the NFL with QBs. Arguably the most difficult job in mainstream sports. The trend is to not draft a QB behind one you have faith in. Why? Pschology. The trend is that QBs are under a lot of pressure already, and having a backup that is good will make the current starter second guess his performances and kill his game. It counter intuitive to competition producing results, but it's rooted in something that makes sense.

My point is, don't change your persona from your practice rounds. Be focused...but not a complete 180 change.

Again...this is assuming there isn't a beef between Rory and Bryson.

Just go play relaxed and normal.

Ok...just for fun, how many PGAT wins do you have? How about cuts made?

Wednesday after tournament quarterbacking is one thing, but you're a bit off the rails.

There are only 4 majors/ year. On average, 6 contenders with a chance to win Sunday. You think the formula is just go play normal/relaxed?!?! Gee...why hasn't Fleetwood, Cantlay, Finau, Aberg, Fowler, Hovland, Homa, etc...thought of that?!

shortshadow · April 16

3 minutes ago, NosajNeelik said:

There’s zero evidence of any of this. Seems like you like to invent narratives to prove some point that to me, make zero sense.

Keeping to yourself during a competitive round isn’t HATE or being a villain. It’s being a winner. In reality Rory shouldn’t have been so cordial on the first tee (did you miss he did that) and called him a clown for his ridiculous entrance.

No need to act different...play relaxed...with 4M on the line or not. Grand Slam on the line or not.

No need for acts. Be you.

Golfnutgalen · April 16

Playing focused and anti-social worked for Tiger and he's Rory's hero. I don't think there's much more to it.

Obviously worked others as well most notably Ben Hogan.

CDM · April 16

4 hours ago, Duct Tape said:

Oh man, people here have been banned for life from Wrx for similar comments!! What were you thinking CM?

🤓🏌🏼‍♀️

LOL ..... just waiting on the mods to send me a "you are not worthy of WRX, your account is banned" notification

shortshadow · April 16

Just now, CasualLie said:

Ok...just for fun, how many PGAT wins do you have? How about cuts made?

Wednesday after tournament quarterbacking is one thing, but you're a bit off the rails.

There are only 4 majors/ year. On average, 6 contenders with a chance to win Sunday. You think the formula is just go play normal/relaxed?!?! Gee...why hasn't Fleetwood, Cantlay, Finau, Aberg, Fowler, Hovland, Homa, etc...thought of that?!

I've already stated and no one is answering...

I'm going by media interpretations and what this board is discussing...

Someone define what exactly Rory was doing that was weird to Bryson?

If they have no beef, what was Rory doing that made Bryson suggest he was being somewhat too focused and weird on the course.

Unless Bryson is lying, there must have been something odd about Rory's behavior. Acting like the opponent is the enemy in war is odd behavior to me even in high level sports with large money on the line.

Was Rory trying psychological warfare? Whatever the reason...I stand by just playing normal and relaxed as opposed to a 180 persona flip.

I guess I don't try hard enough is the attack coming.

CDM · April 16

4 minutes ago, azgreg said:

Wonder if Rory had Bryson's team "who rolled up all gangster" at the Masters put this together 🤪

Joking aside, pretty cool video.

That opening image makes me laugh so hard. I forgot Rory had that hair in the opening image. Wonder if he looks back thinks "Oooo god what was I thinking" hahahaha

shortshadow · April 16

15 minutes ago, CasualLie said:

Ok...just for fun, how many PGAT wins do you have? How about cuts made?

Wednesday after tournament quarterbacking is one thing, but you're a bit off the rails.

There are only 4 majors/ year. On average, 6 contenders with a chance to win Sunday. You think the formula is just go play normal/relaxed?!?! Gee...why hasn't Fleetwood, Cantlay, Finau, Aberg, Fowler, Hovland, Homa, etc...thought of that?!

So doing a 180 persona is the key.

Got it.

Let's see how it works now that the cat is out of the bag for every golfer.

It's about skill...not persona.

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