Recommended point & shoot iron shafts?

[Gbryce90]

I have a fitting coming up for my irons and my club pro recommended I try project x 6.5 rifle shafts. I am curious if there’s any shafts that would best fit my game that’s recommended from the forums. I currently have s300’s in my irons (2 & 4-9) and s200 in my wedges (46, 50, 54 & 60). I have never been fitted for clubs and have hit other shafts like pro modus 120 in stiff flex. I hit most of my shots straight but have a tendency to miss in both directions when I try and go after a shot. 
 

for context I have a fast neutral swing speed (114mph in driver) and have always bought off the shelf when it comes to clubs, never thought about getting fitted until I reached a plateau in my handicap which is currently 4. Has been as low as 1 and never tends to go higher than 5. 

[Jtgavigan]

Getting fit is the only way to tell. You could have 10 guys who swing 114 with the driver pick 10 different irons shafts depending on how they get to the ball. Some guys think my setup is a sledgehammer (KBS $-Taper 130x at D6 swingweight), but it works for me. Someone with my speed (comparable to yours) might like DG X100, PX LZ 6.5, Modus 120x, or something else. 

 

My friend who hits the ball the same distance as me is playing 105g steelfibers. We would not enjoy hitting each other's clubs, I can tell you that. We have comparable speed, but get there two very different ways. 

 

[Stuart_G]

17 hours ago, Gbryce90 said:

I have a fitting coming up for my irons and my club pro recommended I try project x 6.5 rifle shafts. I am curious if there’s any shafts that would best fit my game that’s recommended from the forums. I currently have s300’s in my irons (2 & 4-9) and s200 in my wedges (46, 50, 54 & 60). I have never been fitted for clubs and have hit other shafts like pro modus 120 in stiff flex. I hit most of my shots straight but have a tendency to miss in both directions when I try and go after a shot. 
 

for context I have a fast neutral swing speed (114mph in driver) and have always bought off the shelf when it comes to clubs, never thought about getting fitted until I reached a plateau in my handicap which is currently 4. Has been as low as 1 and never tends to go higher than 5. 

 

Sorry, there is no useful rules or even generalizations that will help you pick a shaft based on any information about your swing.   Past experiences with testing or demoing different shafts might give some insight.  But it really comes down you trying different options and looking at how the numbers (and even just the feel) changes between different shafts.

 

But from that swing info, we can say that there is nothing about your swing that would indicate that the DG's might be a bad fit.  x100's would likely be much more common for that swing speed but the s300's are still a pretty stout shaft so not necessarily a problem with that swing speed - especially if you've been playing them for a long time. 

 

A fitting is nice (assuming the fitter is any good - which is a bad assumption), but you can get a rough ideal just going and doing your own demoing out of retail store fitting carts or at demo days.

 

As far as what to focus on when doing the fitting or testing - it's usually best to pick the shaft based on things like:  feel, consistency and dispersion, accuracy, shot shape control, face impact consistency (bring along some foot powder spray) and in some cases those might need to be balanced out with club head speed.    But leave the launch and spin to the head and loft selection, not the shaft.

 

Start with finding the best shaft weight before worrying about stiffness.  And when you do look at stiffness, don't put too much importance in the flex labels.   If a shaft feels too stiff, don't worry about dropping down flex - or if it feels too soft, don't worry about going up a flex "being too much."  it may or may not be - but you wont' know that until you actually try it.

Edited May 18 by Stuart_G

[Gbryce90]

Thanks for the input. I did some research of my own in selecting the s300’s to begin with. I was looking for a stout shaft with low spin. I tend to swing a lot of shots easy, I’m not sure if it’s a tendency I’ve developed as a result of the shafts I have. When trying the modus 120S it tends to be long irons and the shot shape is the same although I have hit s300’s in a set of apex mb in standard setting and they feel much different shafts to my current gamer set up which are mizuno 921 tour set +1/2 inch with midsize plus 4 grips.  
The last fitting I done was on driver and every fitter I went to recommended a hzrdus black 70g stiff and I ended up playing a ka’lai white 60g stiff without testing it and it gave me more control and to be honest it was probably the best decision I have ever made when it comes to a golf club as it is by far and away my strongest part of my game. I have tried a 70g tensei 1k white in stiff flex and the results in driver were pretty similar to my gamer shaft so I opted against changing but with the outlay of buying new irons and wedges being around 1.5-2k I wanted to do my research before I started the fitting process 

[hammergolf]

On 5/17/2025 at 1:19 PM, Gbryce90 said:

I have a fitting coming up for my irons and my club pro recommended I try project x 6.5 rifle shafts. I am curious if there’s any shafts that would best fit my game that’s recommended from the forums. I currently have s300’s in my irons (2 & 4-9) and s200 in my wedges (46, 50, 54 & 60). I have never been fitted for clubs and have hit other shafts like pro modus 120 in stiff flex. I hit most of my shots straight but have a tendency to miss in both directions when I try and go after a shot. 
 

for context I have a fast neutral swing speed (114mph in driver) and have always bought off the shelf when it comes to clubs, never thought about getting fitted until I reached a plateau in my handicap which is currently 4. Has been as low as 1 and never tends to go higher than 5. 

No offense, but Impossible to tell from a paragraph of words. It will be different for every player. Enjoy your fitting, be open minded, and let the feel and performance lead to your decision.

[Gbryce90]

Also to note my s200’s in my wedges are all matched at a standard 9 iron shaft length plus 1/2 inch. So the weight of it isn’t of any concern to me. I don’t like to be too hunched over when hitting my wedges and I tend to be selective in shots. PW is 135-125. 50 is 115-125, 54 (sw) is 110 at a full swing but the course I play on rarely requires me to hit a sw anything more than 70 yards and anything within 70 is a lob wedge. 

[Gbryce90]

Just now, hammergolf said:

No offense, but Impossible to tell from a paragraph of words. It will be different for every player. Enjoy your fitting, be open minded, and let the feel and performance lead to your decision.

Thanks for your input. I was more looking for any success stories of anyone who has a similar swing speed and has tried a shaft and found results based on the profile I have given. Eg if someone has been recommended pz 6.5 and found similar success with kbs tour V’s then that would have been a help. I reckon I won’t have it sussed in one session so any help is a welcome bonus. It would give me more information going in to the fitting rather than being a sucker to any snake oil salesman. I understand that what I feel will differ to others in regards to what works but a starting point in recommendations is helpful 

[Pnwpingi210]

Just now, Gbryce90 said:

Thanks for your input. I was more looking for any success stories of anyone who has a similar swing speed and has tried a shaft and found results based on the profile I have given. Eg if someone has been recommended pz 6.5 and found similar success with kbs tour V’s then that would have been a help. I reckon I won’t have it sussed in one session so any help is a welcome bonus. It would give me more information going in to the fitting rather than being a sucker to any snake oil salesman. I understand that what I feel will differ to others in regards to what works but a starting point in recommendations is helpful 

You will have to try and see for yourself.  You seem to be the type of player that cares less about what numbers a fitter says are optimal and more about “it just feels right”

 

normally people don’t pay money to get fit and then buy something else.

[Gbryce90]

Just now, Pnwpingi210 said:

You will have to try and see for yourself.  You seem to be the type of player that cares less about what numbers a fitter says are optimal and more about “it just feels right”

 

normally people don’t pay money to get fit and then buy something else.

I should have added my fitting is free by my local club professional. The last pro we had at the club was the antithesis of a professional when it comes to golf. 

[Pnwpingi210]

Just now, Gbryce90 said:

I should have added my fitting is free by my local club professional. The last pro we had at the club was the antithesis of a professional when it comes to golf. 

Alright man.   Sounds like you got a lot going on there 🙂

 

just go to the fitting and see what works.  Try project x, kbs, dynamic gold, nippon.   Nobody can possibly give you a specific recommendation based on the limited information we have.

[Gbryce90]

3 minutes ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

Alright man.   Sounds like you got a lot going on there 🙂

 

just go to the fitting and see what works.  Try project x, kbs, dynamic gold, nippon.   Nobody can possibly give you a specific recommendation based on the limited information we have.

Are there many shafts of similar profile/properties of a project x rifle 6.5? In looking through threads and forums it appears that it is in regards to feel regardless of numbers. My trackman numbers on the s300/200’s are similar to pga average (we have a board in the sim that gives the data) it’s my misses I’m more concerned about. If I try to go after a shot I miss more than I hit. I am looking for a shaft that would give me same numbers in regards to spin (eg 8 iron in the 7700-8200 range) but reduce the whippy feel I have on my downswing when I go for a pusher (if that’s the right term) when you’re in between a 7/8 and you know it’ll stop quicker hitting the 8 but the miss is more damaging to your scorecard than it would be hitting the 7 and not having it stop as quickly 

[hammergolf]

12 minutes ago, Gbryce90 said:

Thanks for your input. I was more looking for any success stories of anyone who has a similar swing speed and has tried a shaft and found results based on the profile I have given. Eg if someone has been recommended pz 6.5 and found similar success with kbs tour V’s then that would have been a help. I reckon I won’t have it sussed in one session so any help is a welcome bonus. It would give me more information going in to the fitting rather than being a sucker to any snake oil salesman. I understand that what I feel will differ to others in regards to what works but a starting point in recommendations is helpful 

Swing speed is just one small factor in shaft fitting. Angle of attack, load amount, shaft lean, club path, and face angle are all things to be considered too. Not to mention swing tempo and most importantly your feel preference.

[Pnwpingi210]

KBs tour v 120x or 125s+
ctaper 120 or 125

x100

Modus 130s or x

[kwcsports]

DG S300

[wavyRT]

2 minutes ago, kwcsports said:

DG S300

That’s what he already playing

[drake47]

What is the reason your pro is suggesting PX 6.5? 

[Pnwpingi210]

Just now, wavyRT said:

That’s what he already playing

I think you missed the humor in that post 😂

[Stuart_G]

10 hours ago, Gbryce90 said:

The last fitting I done was on driver and every fitter I went to recommended a hzrdus black 70g stiff and I ended up playing a ka’lai white 60g stiff

 

Unfortunately, a large percentage of people that call themselves fitters don't really deserve the title.    Finding the good ones can be very difficult.   So nothing wrong with falling back and taking on the responsibility yourself.

 

10 hours ago, Gbryce90 said:

Thanks for your input. I was more looking for any success stories of anyone who has a similar swing speed and has tried a shaft and found results based on the profile I have given.

 

Doubts are normal - but unfortunately for every situation you might be considering there will be plenty of individuals for which a particular approach both worked and failed.  You're not really going to find any useful validation based on what other people might have done.  Your own results with a particular option is the only valid source of justification for making a decision you should be worrying about. And there is always some amount of risk in any change.

 

Instead of generalizing the decision - focus on specifics.   Don't just go randomly grasping for some obscure ideal.

 

What problem are you having right now with the current setup and shaft that you are trying to fix with a shaft change?   When testing, does the prospective option actually address that problem?   If it does fix the problem, are there any other side-effects that it also introduces as well?

 

 

10 hours ago, Gbryce90 said:

My trackman numbers on the s300/200’s are similar to pga average (we have a board in the sim that gives the data)

 

Sorry, but that's one of the worst ways to judge how good a fit a shaft might be.  Most importantly, the tour averages are not any kind of idealized target or optimal numbers you should be shooting for.  Being an average means that lots of tour level pros play successfully (and intentionally) with numbers that are both quite a bit higher and lower than those averages.

 

Second, shaft selection should be ALL about things like dispersion, consistency, accuracy, shot shape control, and sometimes even just getting a good feel.  In some lesser cases (usually with weaker players), swing speed might be a secondary consideration to balance against those others.   But shaft selection should NOT be about launch and spin.  Leave launch and spin to the he

ad selection and loft.

 

10 hours ago, Gbryce90 said:

it’s my misses I’m more concerned about. If I try to go after a shot I miss more than I hit. I am looking for a shaft that would give me same numbers in regards to spin (eg 8 iron in the 7700-8200 range) but reduce the whippy feel I have on my downswing when I go for a pusher (if that’s the right term) when you’re in between a 7/8 and you know it’ll stop quicker hitting the 8 but the miss is more damaging to your scorecard than it would be hitting the 7 and not having it stop as quickly 

 

It sounds to me like the question you have to answer first is - will the stiffer shaft that works better when you go after it - also work as well for the more normal swing?    If you are that sensitive to the stiffness feel that it messes with your timing when going after it, then there is a chance that the stiffer feel might mess with the timing in the "normal" swing.    But that's only a guess, but it's something only you can get the answer to with some testing.

[Gbryce90]

On 5/19/2025 at 10:18 AM, Stuart_G said:

 

Unfortunately, a large percentage of people that call themselves fitters don't really deserve the title.    Finding the good ones can be very difficult.   So nothing wrong with falling back and taking on the responsibility yourself.

 

 

Doubts are normal - but unfortunately for every situation you might be considering there will be plenty of individuals for which a particular approach both worked and failed.  You're not really going to find any useful validation based on what other people might have done.  Your own results with a particular option is the only valid source of justification for making a decision you should be worrying about. And there is always some amount of risk in any change.

 

Instead of generalizing the decision - focus on specifics.   Don't just go randomly grasping for some obscure ideal.

 

What problem are you having right now with the current setup and shaft that you are trying to fix with a shaft change?   When testing, does the prospective option actually address that problem?   If it does fix the problem, are there any other side-effects that it also introduces as well?

 

 

 

Sorry, but that's one of the worst ways to judge how good a fit a shaft might be.  Most importantly, the tour averages are not any kind of idealized target or optimal numbers you should be shooting for.  Being an average means that lots of tour level pros play successfully (and intentionally) with numbers that are both quite a bit higher and lower than those averages.

 

Second, shaft selection should be ALL about things like dispersion, consistency, accuracy, shot shape control, and sometimes even just getting a good feel.  In some lesser cases (usually with weaker players), swing speed might be a secondary consideration to balance against those others.   But shaft selection should NOT be about launch and spin.  Leave launch and spin to the he

ad selection and loft.

 

 

It sounds to me like the question you have to answer first is - will the stiffer shaft that works better when you go after it - also work as well for the more normal swing?    If you are that sensitive to the stiffness feel that it messes with your timing when going after it, then there is a chance that the stiffer feel might mess with the timing in the "normal" swing.    But that's only a guess, but it's something only you can get the answer to with some testing.

Thank you for the response. My fitting is next Wednesday and I will post more details once this has happened. 

[rbpwrx]

The only 'point-and-shoot' shaft for *me* is the X7. Almost impossible to hit offline, and distance control is spot on. But that shaft may or may not fit your swing at all. For me, the S300s are squirrelly and squiggley, and I avoid them like the plague. You've got some speed, I suspect that's why your fitter is suggesting PX 6.5s. For some of us, playing stiffer than our speed would normally indicate actually gets better results (straighter, more consistent, AND longer). YMMV.

[Gbryce90]

On 5/20/2025 at 7:24 PM, rbpwrx said:

The only 'point-and-shoot' shaft for *me* is the X7. Almost impossible to hit offline, and distance control is spot on. But that shaft may or may not fit your swing at all. For me, the S300s are squirrelly and squiggley, and I avoid them like the plague. You've got some speed, I suspect that's why your fitter is suggesting PX 6.5s. For some of us, playing stiffer than our speed would normally indicate actually gets better results (straighter, more consistent, AND longer). YMMV.

That is my thoughts on why he had recommended the px’s to me. That it will allow me to swing faster at the ball and the ball would maintain a straighter ball flight. I had previously played the xp95 stiffs on a set of apex pro 19 version when I took up golf again after a long period of barely playing and my miss was a bad pull/hook. It was in doing my own research that I had came to the decision to play a heavier shaft in a similar flex & I had found a set of jpx921 tour with s300 shafts on them and I had thought that the increased weight in the shaft would allow me to swing at a higher tempo but the faster my tempo the less control I have over the flight of the ball. As I’ve alluded to in previous posts my current swing tempo allows me to keep control of the shot shape and gives me enough distance that I don’t have to compromise too much but there is something gnawing at me that I’m not playing to my best potential 

[Gbryce1990]

Original poster here. I don’t know what happened to my original account but I couldn’t log in and thus made a new one. 
 

I have been to 2 fittings since I made the initial inquiry here and have found most success with px rifle 6.5 and dg x100’s. I haven’t had the chance to get my exact specs down yet as I had ran out of time in my second fitting and I’m hoping to get a third one done before I purchase new irons. The first fitter allowed me to try out a variety of head and shaft combinations, really liked the mizuno 243’s in x100’s and the second one recommended p7cb’s in either px rifle 6.5 @ +1 inches or x100’s @+.5 of an inch as there was not much difference in the outcome of the shot shape. The px felt heavier to swing but we agreed this would be due to the swing weight increase with the extra length on the club and the resulting extra distance. 
 

thanks everyone who responded 

Edited July 31 by Gbryce1990

[EddieEdwards]

x100s are more point and shoot than s300s