Add weight to back of GT3

[Kwalldo43]

Anyone add any weight to the back of their GT3 to boost MOI? I have a 9* that I was fit for and at the time was better than GT2 but as you all know on course can be different. It’s a cannon but the misses are a little funky at times.
 

I am going to try pulling the stock 6 gram weight up front and add the same to the back and see what happens. Then maybe slowly add weight back up front to see if I can achieve a balance?

I know that I could just get a GT2 but I was fit for and already have a GT3 and I am trying to avoid giving up and buying another head and going through that process. Just curious if anyone else has tinkered with it?

[03trdblack]

Buy a TSR3 or trade it for the GT4 so you can load up the back weight. 

 

 

Edited June 5 by 03trdblack

[Kingcat990]

As said above, I would leave that GT3 alone and move on from it. In fact, maybe try the GT1, it also has some flexibility for front/back weighting. 

 

 

[Stuart_G]

1 hour ago, Kwalldo43 said:

Anyone add any weight to the back of their GT3 to boost MOI? I have a 9* that I was fit for and at the time was better than GT2 but as you all know on course can be different. It’s a cannon but the misses are a little funky at times.

 

Moving head weight is fine - but adding weight and the resulting change in head weight (swing weight) has a much bigger potential to effect your delivery and ball flight results than the more direct influence on the MOI will effect it - maybe good, maybe bad.   So adding weight just for the purpose of increasing MOI is not usually all that effective.

 

If you need more MOI, that's a good indication of some other problem with the fit of the club that's preventing you from getting a more consistent face impact location.   IMO, you'd be better off focusing on ways to improve that face impact consistency than compensate for it - especially for those with higher swing speed.

 

The most common problem causing inconsistencies in face impact consistency in modern drivers is the overly long stock playing lengths - but things like shaft weight and head weight can also be an important factor in delivery consistency.   

 

The following link is a way you can do some self help fitting to improve things with your driver (or most clubs).  All it takes is some lead tape, some foot powder spray, and a bucket of balls.  And the results will be applicable and provide benefits whether you change heads or not.

 

And no, most people who go through this don't loose any distance even if they end up with a shorter playing length.  Some even gain distance with shorter playing lengths due to improvements to the face impact location and consistency.

 

 

Edited June 5 by Stuart_G

[Kwalldo43]

First, I appreciate the quick responses. I have a tendency to never blame a club for my inconsistencies. Also some of the drives I have hit with it have been unreal. I tried the Howard Jones method to double check strike location and it was consistent enough that I wouldn’t expect what I am seeing. I also took a lesson to ensure I wasn’t doing anything crazy. I think the balance of the club just isn’t for me.
 

I am a 6 cap, swing around 105-108 average. I just haven’t had a reliable ball flight with GT3. I like to hit a straight to slight draw shot but all of the sudden get the diving left shot out of nowhere from a strike that wasn’t even that bad but have also seen some right balls where it feels like I am saving the diving left ball like I can feel it wanting to close too quickly. I tried every sleeve and track adjustment and the goofy weight idea was my last ditch effort, hahaha! I guess cutting bait and going the GT2, or TD max route is in my future

Edited July 12 by Kwalldo43

[SeekonkHolen1]

I just had that diving left shot from my GT3 yesterday. Slightly high out towards the toe and the spin rate drops so low that it can't stay in the air. Awfully ugly looking shot indeed. When you did your fitting were you right on the margin of too low spin?

 

Also 6G weight sounds low. I think mine is 10g, playing 70g shaft 45" at D3 

Edited June 5 by SeekonkHolen1

[Stuart_G]

1 hour ago, Kwalldo43 said:

First, I appreciate the quick responses. I have a tendency to never blame a club for my inconsistencies. Also some of the drives I have hit with it have been unreal. I tried the Howard Jones method to double check strike location and it was consistent enough that I wouldn’t expect what I am seeing. I also took a lesson to ensure I wasn’t doing anything crazy. I think the balance of the club just isn’t for me.

 

Sounds more like a face control issue - not a face impact issue. So MOI wouldn't have helped much anyways.

 

Have you played around with heavier swing weights? (adding head weight incrementally - not necessarily to improve impact location - but just the general consistency of the release timing.

 

Compared to your last driver (that didn't have this problem) - how has the shaft stiffness profile or weight changed?   For some that can also play a big role in consistent delivery.

 

[SeekonkHolen1]

3 minutes ago, Stuart_G said:

 

Sounds more like a face control issue - not a face impact issue. So MOI wouldn't have helped much anyways.

 

Have you played around with heavier swing weights? (adding head weight incrementally - not necessarily to improve impact location - but just the general consistency of the release timing.

 

Compared to your last driver (that didn't have this problem) - how has the shaft stiffness profile or weight changed?   For some that can also play a big role in consistent delivery.

 

Amen to shaft profile. I had made a change from my trusty PX 7A3 to the HZRDUS Black 70g 6.5 and just can't get along with it. Swapped the 7A3 into it and bam it's a cannon for me.

[PowerCobra98]

I gave up on GT3 a couple months ago and just went back to TSR3.  Distance was the same but misses with GT3 were crazy worse.  All I could nail it down to was the weight distribution.  TSR3 just performs better for me overall.  Sold the GT3, bought a new TSR3 head to refresh the one I had played for the previous 1.5 years.  So now just two TSR3's and an older TSi3 in the arsenal. 

[Kwalldo43]

3 hours ago, SeekonkHolen1 said:

I just had that diving left shot from my GT3 yesterday. Slightly high out towards the toe and the spin rate drops so low that it can't stay in the air. Awfully ugly looking shot indeed. When you did your fitting were you right on the margin of too low spin?

 

Also 6G weight sounds low. I think mine is 10g, playing 70g shaft 45" at D3 

Sorry it says 8g on the weight but weighed 6 on a scale. When I did my fitting I wanted GT2 but it was spinning too much like high 2s creeping in 3 here and there and I wasn’t sure I wanted to drop to an 8* head and GT3 was better numbers wise but numbers vs on course is always interesting. Starting out it was an improvement from my previous driver and like I said I have hit some crazy drives with it so it’s a bit addictive but now it’s been several rounds where the diving left shot cost me a couple strokes which for me is the difference between a round in the 80s vs 70s.

[Kwalldo43]

2 hours ago, Stuart_G said:

 

Sounds more like a face control issue - not a face impact issue. So MOI wouldn't have helped much anyways.

 

Have you played around with heavier swing weights? (adding head weight incrementally - not necessarily to improve impact location - but just the general consistency of the release timing.

 

Compared to your last driver (that didn't have this problem) - how has the shaft stiffness profile or weight changed?   For some that can also play a big role in consistent delivery.

 

If it was a face control issue shouldn’t I see some of the same issues in other areas of the bag? Or at least occasionally? For example 3 wd I expect a straight to slight draw and it typically delivers. Don’t get me wrong everyone hits s*** shost but a majority have a predictable shot pattern. Either way I appreciate the help and advice but it’s looking like the best plan is to move on instead of trying to make it work 

[Kwalldo43]

So TSR3, GT2 again, maybe TD Max, any others suggestions I should try? 

[Wardman]

I gave up on the GT3 too.  Went back to the TSR4, and can play with the front and back weight.  As an amateur, the left-right weights were too much in the GT3 world for me to think about.  I have 3 TSR4's right now :-), 8, 9, 10 degree and playing it as low spin.  If you can get a hold of one to try, I really like that head.

[CTgamer]

I know Titleist doesn’t make one off heads for the tour like Callaway and TM, but we need need need a GT3 with GT4 front/back weights. 
 

As is, GT3 has a known issue of being lower MOI and lower CG than TSR3. It also doesn’t have enough bulge to account for how much side spin is created from gear effect on mishits. 
 

The thread below had great in depth info, but it looks like the posts have been redacted. I’ve linked a post that quoted the originals for a glimpse of the convo - tl/dr, it explains why misses with GT3 can be overly penal and/or “out of nowhere”

 

Also, shoutout to @Witt80 and the AskGolfNut YouTube channel (https://m.youtube.com/@AskGolfNut) for providing the info and the great reviews they do

Edited June 5 by CTgamer

[mosesgolf]

Yes it should help with the moi.  Ping back weights run from 24-30g which is way more than Titleist driver heads.  Titleist driver head weights including the GT2/3 are around 196g vs 204-206 of Ping heads (G430/G440)

[Kwalldo43]

3 hours ago, CTgamer said:

I know Titleist doesn’t make one off heads for the tour like Callaway and TM, but we need need need a GT3 with GT4 front/back weights. 
 

As is, GT3 has a known issue of being lower MOI and lower CG than TSR3. It also doesn’t have enough bulge to account for how much side spin is created from gear effect on mishits. 
 

The thread below had great in depth info, but it looks like the posts have been redacted. I’ve linked a post that quoted the originals for a glimpse of the convo - tl/dr, it explains why misses with GT3 can be overly penal and/or “out of nowhere”

 

Also, shoutout to @Witt80 and the AskGolfNut YouTube channel (https://m.youtube.com/@AskGolfNut) for providing the info and the great reviews they do

Thanks for sharing! First time checking out askgolfnut and got sucked down the rabbit hole. Best video reviews I have seen yet, very in depth. His review of GT3 sheds some light on what I have been experiencing. Even slight misses are a mixed bag.

[kennyFpowers55]

Another vote for the tsr3 from me. I had the same issue with the forward weighting. Switched from gt3 to gt2 but ultimately back to my tsr3. I haven’t looked back. 

[Stuart_G]

15 hours ago, Kwalldo43 said:

If it was a face control issue shouldn’t I see some of the same issues in other areas of the bag?

 

No.   Sorry I should have been a bit more clear.  Think of it more as an equipment induced face control problem that I was referring to.  That's why I asked about the shaft stiffness profile and suggested testing head weight changes.

 

Many aspects of the club and what we feel from the club during the swing can and frequently does influence the swing.  How heavy it feels at any particular time during the swing (shaft weight or swing weight/MOI),  how much we feel the shaft loading or unloading, etc...    All that has the potential to influence things like the path and rhythm and tempo, or sequencing or release timing and many other things.   

 

Unfortunately, the question of what types of changes to the club effects the swing and how - are going to be very different for different individuals.  That's why we actually have to test all the options to see how the results (and even just the feel) might be effected.

 

15 hours ago, Kwalldo43 said:

Either way I appreciate the help and advice but it’s looking like the best plan is to move on instead of trying to make it work 

 

If the head really is the source of the problem, that would be true.   But if you want to have a better chance of not running into the same problem with the next choice,  I'd suggest taking a closer look at what else might be different between this driver and your last.   e.g. Shaft stiffness  profile, shaft weight, playing length, head weight or swing weight (club MOI), shaft butt size (how it might influence the grip size), etc..

 

8 hours ago, Kwalldo43 said:

Thanks for sharing! First time checking out askgolfnut and got sucked down the rabbit hole. Best video reviews I have seen yet, very in depth. His review of GT3 sheds some light on what I have been experiencing. Even slight misses are a mixed bag.

 

No, it actually doesn't.  At least not if your face impact is as consistent as you said it was earlier in the thread.   Like MOI, bulge and Roll only effect the results on off center impact.  And unlike MOI - only on really big off center misses.

 

And FWIW, I wouldn't put much faith in AskGolfNut's "data" - it looks nice but there is little actual scientific substance backing those charts - at least as far as he seems to be willing to share.   He removed all his posts in the forum and left because he didn't like having his understanding of the actual science and physics challenged.   That's not any indication of how good his equipment reviews might be or not - but it was pretty clear his understanding of the underlying science in many of his ideas was severely lacking.

 

 

Edited June 6 by Stuart_G

[Kwalldo43]

1 hour ago, Stuart_G said:

No, it actually doesn't.  At least not if your face impact is as consistent as you said it was earlier in the thread.   Like MOI, bulge and Roll only effect the results on off center impact.  And unlike MOI - only on really big off center misses.

 

And FWIW, I wouldn't put much faith in AskGolfNut's "data" - it looks nice but there is little actual scientific substance backing those charts.

 

 

Ok, from my perspective the review was at least correlative in the sense that I have hit multiple shots with minimal variance verified with foot spray and one is what I would expect and the other get divey left shot. Now the shot I hit before it was so good that I probably wanted to ignore the divey left shot when testing on the range. Then out in the course when it jumps out and costs you a stroke or two you take more notice. This could correlate to others experience that it’s not the best match up for a draw player. 
 

In the end I got it shortly after release and put it through its paces. I could spend more time trying to figure it out but ultimately whatever the cause the club and I aren’t getting along and it’s probably easier to cut bait and go with a more forgiving head.

 

Again I really appreciate you taking the time to provide such informative answers. It’s helpful! 

Edited June 6 by Kwalldo43

[Stuart_G]

40 minutes ago, Kwalldo43 said:

Ok, from my perspective the review was at least correlative in the sense that I have hit multiple shots with minimal variance verified with foot spray and one is what I would expect and the other get divey left shot. Now the shot I hit before it was so good that I probably wanted to ignore the divey left shot when testing on the range. Then out in the course when it jumps out and costs you a stroke or two you take more notice. This could correlate to others experience that it’s not the best match up for a draw player. 

 

Well I do have to say I didn't read/watch the review.   I'm only looking at the data/information you're providing.

 

It's basically somewhat simple logic.   If there are significant variation in the ball flight and no significant variation in face impact location, then something else about the delivery of the club into impact is changing. e.g. dynamic loft, face-to-path, etc..      And so far, there is not much information to pin down exactly what is causing that variation.   That's why I asked some of the questions I did comparing this driver to your last (which I assume didn't have the same problem).   The more we know about the differences, the easier it is to identify possible causes.

 

All I'm really saying is that there are lots of possible causes for that and many of them are not specific to the head characteristics.  So while something about the head certainly could be the cause, I'm just saying be careful about having tunnel vision.  The seemingly "obvious" answer isn't always the right answer.

 

[Kwalldo43]

Went and hit GT2, Elyte TD max, Ai Smoke TD, TSR3 all 9 degree, I swapped my LinQ m40x blue in the Titleist heads, also got along with the Tensei 1k black which surprised me. Elyte TD Max had the stock aretera ec1 blue. Rotated every three shots.
 

TSR3 was just better overall, more point and shoot, just felt more stable across the board and feels hot on well struck shots. I can see why so many come back to it. I could play either shaft but thinking I might get it with a 1k black and see how it performs on course. 

 

Elyte TD Max was really good too but I am hoping to swap with minimal investment. Much more manageable and stable but may search for a used head and throw it in the mix.

 

Ai Smoke TD was good, I thought Elyte felt better and they did not have a TD max which I would prefer. 
 

GT2 just wanted to go left, even adjusting to go flatter and more open. 

I also hit my GT3 and side by side I could feel how it’s slightly more apt to twisting. It’s very subtle and I didn’t notice it that much without something to compare right next to it. 
 

Probably going to pull the trigger on a TSR3 and see what happens.

[Pepperturbo]

On 6/5/2025 at 5:24 AM, Kwalldo43 said:

Anyone add any weight to the back of their GT3 to boost MOI? I have a 9* that I was fit for and at the time was better than GT2 but as you all know on course can be different. It’s a cannon but the misses are a little funky at times.
 

I am going to try pulling the stock 6 gram weight up front and add the same to the back and see what happens. Then maybe slowly add weight back up front to see if I can achieve a balance?

I know that I could just get a GT2 but I was fit for and already have a GT3 and I am trying to avoid giving up and buying another head and going through that process. Just curious if anyone else has tinkered with it?

Add some lead tape, see how that goes.  I added a 1.5" strip of lead tape on the sole, from the face to middle of my driver, increased SW to near 4 = feels great.  Heavier feeling head seems to help me move through the ball faster.