Ow&Co Golf

[hwwong]

I vaguely remember seeing their work in a thread at one point. I searched but couldn't find anything.  I just happened on their website, and I must say, looks like some pretty compelling work.  Just one type of head at the moment I believe, but there are options galore, and the finishing looks pretty nice.  They've also done a great job on the website/images. 

 

Curious is anyone has gotten one and what are your thoughts on them?

[jonradus]

Those putters do look pretty nice…but, man, they seem a little pricey…especially because resale would probably be pretty tough and low because nobody has heard of them. 

[mmiicc]

they're mentioned in this thread

 

[BombsIntoTheWoods]

2 hours ago, jonradus said:

Those putters do look pretty nice…but, man, they seem a little pricey…especially because resale would probably be pretty tough and low because nobody has heard of them. 

Ya, feels they are priced too high and trying to market themselves to a certain audience, maybe they are having success with that.

 

I rather give one of the more reasonable makers my money.

[iteachgolf]

Prices are crazy. Especially the neck prices.  Even funnier when they “weld” a plumbers neck onto a one piece milled head, they charge a lot extra to run a weld bead on a neck that’s already connected to the head.  
 

Pete posted on here and other places claiming it was his “friends” company and he had no involvement at all while trying to drum up interest until being called out for it. Pretty sure the thead on here got deleted as a result 

[hwwong]

2 hours ago, iteachgolf said:

Prices are crazy. Especially the neck prices.  Even funnier when they “weld” a plumbers neck onto a one piece milled head, they charge a lot extra to run a weld bead on a neck that’s already connected to the head.  
 

Pete posted on here and other places claiming it was his “friends” company and he had no involvement at all while trying to drum up interest until being called out for it. Pretty sure the thead on here got deleted as a result 

 

Yea i remember that thread, i think.  There was some debate on their '009' style and what not.  But it looks they've refined their shape maybe?    Either way, agree on the neck prices.  $200 for a welded neck is quite a lot.

[iteachgolf]

32 minutes ago, hwwong said:

 

Yea i remember that thread, i think.  There was some debate on their '009' style and what not.  But it looks they've refined their shape maybe?    Either way, agree on the neck prices.  $200 for a welded neck is quite a lot.

They didn’t change anything.  Guessing because they aren’t the ones doing to cad or the programming.  
 

and many of the welded necks aren’t actually welded. It’s solely for looks

 

 

Those are 1 piece heads 

 

Won’t even get into the welds on this one

https://www.instagram.com/p/DHY9vhdSA2i/?img_index=3&igsh=c2VhcmwxMTZucGQy

[MattM97]

7 minutes ago, iteachgolf said:

They didn’t change anything.  Guessing because they aren’t the ones doing to cad or the programming.  
 

and many of the welded necks aren’t actually welded. It’s solely for looks

 

 

Those are 1 piece heads 

 

Won’t even get into the welds on this one

https://www.instagram.com/p/DHY9vhdSA2i/?img_index=3&igsh=c2VhcmwxMTZucGQy

 

I'm too lazy to look but it's a straight copy/rip off of a few of those stupid CT putters that sell in Asia for like 10k+ 

[Bsch189]

“Just two guys, inspired by the greats.”
 

Imho, most of their stuff looks great, but you can’t help think you’ve seen it before… well, that’s because it is a complete ripoff from brand to steel. Isn’t it funny how Americans can notoriously steal and cover the crime by calling it inspiration?

 

Looks to be a +$1000 putter from their menu, an amount I would rather spend on something a little more original elsewhere.

[josey]

2 hours ago, Bsch189 said:

“Just two guys, inspired by the greats.”
 

Imho, most of their stuff looks great, but you can’t help think you’ve seen it before… well, that’s because it is a complete ripoff from brand to steel. Isn’t it funny how Americans can notoriously steal and cover the crime by calling it inspiration?

 

Looks to be a +$1000 putter from their menu, an amount I would rather spend on something a little more original elsewhere.

Painting with a broad brush here. 

[Bsch189]

25 minutes ago, josey said:

Painting with a broad brush here. 

Perhaps a little thick layer to illustrate my point or perhaps I'm just delusional 🙂

 

 

[hwwong]

Not delusional.. but they're not the first, nor will they be the last.    IMO it just depends on whether or not the product is well made to determine where it lands on the 'knock-off-to-inspiriation' spectrum.  

 

If they're really doing fake welds...then that surely answers the question.

 

 

[Bsch189]

From the poster above, he correctly points out a fake plumbers neck weld, but I don’t see that as a big issue, if it was sold under the right conditions. The other weld necks they sell are real two pieces.
 

My point was that their craft looks great, why not make their own putter shapes and brand, instead of piggybacking Scotty Cameron down to the last detail?

[hwwong]

7 minutes ago, Bsch189 said:

From the poster above, he correctly points out a fake plumbers neck weld, but I don’t see that as a big issue, if it was sold under the right conditions. The other weld necks they sell are real two pieces.
 

My point was that their craft looks great, why not make their own putter shapes and brand, instead of piggybacking Scotty Cameron down to the last detail?

well it’s a proven model, no?  How many original ideas are left out there?

 

And from a competition perspective it makes sense. No one is really challenging the market Cameron and the circle T/custom shop hold. 

[iteachgolf]

6 minutes ago, Bsch189 said:

From the poster above, he correctly points out a fake plumbers neck weld, but I don’t see that as a big issue, if it was sold under the right conditions. The other weld necks they sell are real two pieces.
 

My point was that their craft looks great, why not make their own putter shapes and brand, instead of piggybacking Scotty Cameron down to the last detail?

probably because they aren’t doing the CAD or the CAM programming themselves which means any tweak they’d have to pay someone a lot of money to change the program.  It’s why they stamp instead of engrave and only offer one head shape.  It’s easy to tell who outsources everything and who actually is doing everything in house and can control the final product. 
 

those are two different putters and there’s a ton just like that.  If you’re gonna sell a “welded” plumbers neck at a $200 upcharge at least cut it off and reweld it back on.  Adding that bead around an already finished head took maybe 90 seconds

[Bsch189]

8 minutes ago, hwwong said:

well it’s a proven model, no?  How many original ideas are left out there?

 

And from a competition perspective it makes sense. No one is really challenging the market Cameron and the circle T/custom shop hold. 

Well, that sounds like theft, doesn’t it? Copying another company’s products to “challenge the market” with basically counterfeits with a different name on, that holds a similar custom shop quality?

[josey]

4 hours ago, Bsch189 said:

Perhaps a little thick layer to illustrate my point or perhaps I'm just delusional 🙂

 

 

I’m talking about painting Americans all the same. It’s obvious what they are doing.  As long as they are transparent about their sourcing,building, inspiration then good luck to them.  Some people just want the look.  “Custom made” is very different than “customized”

[hwwong]

4 hours ago, Bsch189 said:

Well, that sounds like theft, doesn’t it? Copying another company’s products to “challenge the market” with basically counterfeits with a different name on, that holds a similar custom shop quality?

 

Actually it sounds more like capitalism than theft. 
 

Counterfeit is too strong a word. Even Scotty copied Ping’s (and others’) designs. They didn’t invent the putter... They just invented putter marketing. 

 

[williaza]

I used to be way way way more into the  putter game 

 

these guys blasted me on FB forums and blocked me when I would point out they don’t mill anything themselves 

 

I know everyone rips off SC but IMO these guys were trying to be lamb 

Edited June 7 by williaza

[Bsch189]

2 hours ago, josey said:

I’m talking about painting Americans all the same.

It is one of those unpopular generalizations, but I think it stands true in most endeavours where there is a buck to be made.

[Bsch189]

1 hour ago, hwwong said:

Counterfeit is too strong a word.

True, plagiarism is the better word in this context.

[Phabs]

10 hours ago, iteachgolf said:

probably because they aren’t doing the CAD or the CAM programming themselves which means any tweak they’d have to pay someone a lot of money to change the program.  It’s why they stamp instead of engrave and only offer one head shape.  It’s easy to tell who outsources everything and who actually is doing everything in house and can control the final product. 
 

those are two different putters and there’s a ton just like that.  If you’re gonna sell a “welded” plumbers neck at a $200 upcharge at least cut it off and reweld it back on.  Adding that bead around an already finished head took maybe 90 seconds

Just means their welder is $12,000 an hour… pretty standard rate for someone talented with a tig torch 😂

Edited June 7 by Phabs

[LeicaRedDot]

I emailed these guys twice asking a simple question about head weights and never got a reply. I’ve moved on… 

[StoutKing]

On 6/7/2025 at 5:40 AM, Bsch189 said:

Perhaps a little thick layer to illustrate my point or perhaps I'm just delusional 🙂

 

 

That's a good looking Anser copy I must say

[williaza]

Their use of the word “queue” is enough to skip them

 

[Bsch189]

1 hour ago, StoutKing said:

That's a good looking Anser copy I must say

Clearly not the Dalehead that Ow&Co have 3D scanned here, is it?

[StoutKing]

4 minutes ago, Bsch189 said:

Clearly not the Dalehead that Ow&Co have 3D scanned here, is it?

My main point is all these blades are derivatives of original Karsten designs.  

[Bsch189]

34 minutes ago, StoutKing said:

My main point is all these blades are derivatives of original Karsten designs.  

Yes, what a point. Carl Benz invented the first car, but every brand since made their own interpretation of it.

Which brings me back to my original point, Ow&Co has no identity when they are shamelessly ripping off Scotty Cameron from brand to steel.

[StoutKing]

22 minutes ago, Bsch189 said:

Yes, what a point. Carl Benz invented the first car, but every brand since made their own interpretation of it.

Which brings me back to my original point, Ow&Co has no identity when they are shamelessly ripping off Scotty Cameron from brand to steel.

The Scotty blades are shameless ripoffs of PING.  It all goes in circles.

[italianstallion]

Two months ago I received an email that it was time for my build. I submitted the paperwork a few days later and haven't heard anything. I didn't put a deposit down but I've since moved on from the thought of wanting one. In their defense all Anser style putters are imitations of the original for sure, but they're certainly not the first to imitate. Not sure why that debate needs to resuscitate every time a new company comes along to make a few bucks off the most popular putter head style of all time. I'd rather focus the conversation on judging a company based off that company's merits of quality and customer service, and in my opinion Ow&Co still have some work to do in those departments.