2025 Open Championship in Portrush

[Pops99]

My buddy brought his kid over from Canada for the Scottish Open 2 weeks back. Justin Rose was amazing and signed and talked to his kid. Justin Thomas went out of his way to ignore the kid.

 

Moral of the story? Absolutely nothing. For every story about a pro being amazing with kids or fans, there is one where they were a dick. I imagine there are countless people on here who would say JT was amazing with them and their kids. Every pro has good/bad days or is in a hurry and can't sign for a reason. A fleeting moment with a pro is not an indictment on their character, good or bad. 

 

So to say Scheffler didn't interact in the way you wanted means literally nothing with regards to who they are as a person. 

[Dutch1008]

1 hour ago, Chanceman said:

I’ve not said he was a garbage person.  By all accounts he’s very decent. Good for him. By the way that vid is from Royal Troon last year.

 

I know. I literally typed that it was from Troon. Just pointing out that he does sign. A quick google search will show hundreds of photos of him signing. I grabbed the 1st Open I saw. I have no idea why Scottie didn't sign the day you attended. Perhaps he was scheduled for media. Maybe he had some corporate obligation w/ Nike or Rolex. Maybe he just wanted to get a moment with his son before they put him down for the night. There are endless legitimate reasons. Professional athletes are asked for signatures and photos constantly. None of them stop at every opportunity. If Scottie was in the habit of brushing off kids, we'd know about it. The media loves noting more than knocking a guy off his pedestal. 

[braincramp52]

12 hours ago, Chanceman said:

Those kids will be cheering for someone else next time. And then Scheffler can complain some more about the crowd wanting someone else to win.  He does not seem to realize he is blest to play a game beloved by so many. He says he was called to play golf - is that unlike you or me ? Sure he is phenomenal but pretty sure he does not appreciate the significance of the game in the lives of others. 

You don't know that.

[tiderider]

13 hours ago, Chanceman said:

Those kids will be cheering for someone else next time. And then Scheffler can complain some more about the crowd wanting someone else to win.  He does not seem to realize he is blest to play a game beloved by so many. He says he was called to play golf - is that unlike you or me ? Sure he is phenomenal but pretty sure he does not appreciate the significance of the game in the lives of others. 

lol ... when did he complain about the crowd wanting someone else to win? ... good grief, one time he doesn't acknowledge some kids, he becomes an ogre who is greedy and selfish and out to ruin people's lives ... 

 

got to love the internet!!

[StoutKing]

1 hour ago, tiderider said:

lol ... when did he complain about the crowd wanting someone else to win? ... good grief, one time he doesn't acknowledge some kids, he becomes an ogre who is greedy and selfish and out to ruin people's lives ... 

 

got to love the internet!!

At least there are haters now.  Makes him more "interesting"

[bscinstnct]

On 7/22/2025 at 12:25 PM, PedronNiall said:

 

As @Dutch1008 mentioned, this kind of thing has been on repeat for decades now, and Tiger has a hype machine both through intent and through happenstance that feeds into it. Almost every noteworthy shot of Tiger's got some kind of feature with other pros talking about how amazing it was. 

 

 

 

They don't do that with Scottie. Partially because most of his greatest stuff is right from the middle of the fairway, but also because he simply doesn't have to recover as often. Tiger was also the forerunner to golfers realizing they should be going for it in 2 on every par 5 they can. He was the only one who both got the memo and had the strength so for a while it made for him doing things no one else was doing. I'll give you that contrasted with the old guard on their reserved, "You'll learn" outlook makes it easier for Tiger to stand out, and that at times Tiger did get into it by marching after the ball or letting more smiles slip after a blistered iron, but most of Tiger's greatest shots as in some clips already posted came with the same lack of reaction as we see from Scheffler during most of his greatest efforts.

 

Can't forget the Earl effect either; if Scottie's dad were out there saying some of the out there things Tiger's dad did that alone would get more buzz going around Scheffler. 

 

Tiger came up in a perfect storm to turn him into a star; Scottie is simply what most golfers are, relatively reserved and boring out on the course, and plays a by-the-numbers game that makes for little flash if that's what someone's looking for. 

 

“Tiger has a hype machine”

 

“They don't do that with Scottie.”

 

I guess “they” are getting one goin for him 

 

 

 

🤣🍻

 

 

 

 

[Duct Tape]

30 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

“Tiger has a hype machine”

 

“They don't do that with Scottie.”

 

I guess “they” are getting one goin for him 

 

 

 

🤣🍻

 

 

 

 

Must have caused you some heartburn to see that one BSC.   Impressive. Let’s see how it goes from here. My moneys still on Tiger in the end. 

[StoutKing]

32 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

“Tiger has a hype machine”

 

“They don't do that with Scottie.”

 

I guess “they” are getting one goin for him 

 

 

 

🤣🍻

 

 

 

 

Let's see what Scottie's win percentage is when he's 48.  Love Scottie but that just not a fair stat.  Need to go by where they stand after a certain number of majors.

[mosesgolf]

From 1997 to 2008 Tiger won 28% of all the majors he played in.  

 

 

[BlackDiamondPar5]

Since Scottie's first major win, 2022 Masters, 4 wins of last 16 majors played --25% win rate. Tiger over his first 16 majors played since his first major win was 5/16 or 31.25%. Tigers next 4 years (16 majors played) was 3/16 or 18.75%. We shall see how Scottie compares over the coming years.

[StoutKing]

3 minutes ago, BlackDiamondPar5 said:

Since Scottie's first major win, 2022 Masters, 4 wins of last 16 majors played --25% win rate. Tiger over his first 16 majors played since his first major win was 5/16 or 31.25%. Tigers next 4 years (16 majors played) was 3/16 or 18.75%. We shall see how Scottie compares over the coming years.

I believe Tiger had 8-10 majors when he was 29.

[bscinstnct]

I saw SS is matching TW from the time he won his first manager until his open win. To the exact day!

 

So now, he just needs to win 11 more 🤣

 

Until now, SS has been sorta able to fly under the radar as far as Tiger type scrutiny 

 

But now he’s actually being compared to TW. It will get intense and the pressure to win ratchets up. I imagine it’s gotta mess with your mind. 
 

 

[WesternRacing]

39 minutes ago, mosesgolf said:

From 1997 to 2008 Tiger won 28% of all the majors he played in.  

 

 

 

That’s just nuts.  Not just 14 wins, but 18 additional top 10s.  Just insane.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

30 minutes ago, StoutKing said:

I believe Tiger had 8-10 majors when he was 29.

Correct. But I used winning First Major as the starting point of the major win rate.  

Edited July 24 by BlackDiamondPar5

[tatertot]

20 minutes ago, WesternRacing said:

 

That’s just nuts.  Not just 14 wins, but 18 additional top 10s.  Just insane.

 

1 hour ago, mosesgolf said:

From 1997 to 2008 Tiger won 28% of all the majors he played in.  

 

 

Between 1962 to 1972, Jack won 30%of the majors ... finished second 25% of the time ... finished in the Top 10 29 times ... 

[PedronNiall]

1 hour ago, bscinstnct said:

 

“Tiger has a hype machine”

 

“They don't do that with Scottie.”

 

I guess “they” are getting one goin for him 

 

 

 

🤣🍻

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, my guy, but that's nothing compared to the way they paraded any and everything Tiger did from day one. Scottie is not hyped in nearly the same way Tiger was by everyone: announcers, other players, sponsors, entertainment television at the time, every sports show, and so on. Stats blurbs were only a drop of what went down with Tiger. 

[bscinstnct]

19 minutes ago, PedronNiall said:

 

Sorry, my guy, but that's nothing compared to the way they paraded any and everything Tiger did from day one. Scottie is not hyped in nearly the same way Tiger was by everyone: announcers, other players, sponsors, entertainment television at the time, every sports show, and so on. Stats blurbs were only a drop of what went down with Tiger. 

 

So do you think the same about MJ? 
 

Was his rock star status a result of media hype?
 

 

 

 

Edited July 24 by bscinstnct

[StoutKing]

29 minutes ago, tatertot said:

 

Between 1962 to 1972, Jack won 30%of the majors ... finished second 25% of the time ... finished in the Top 10 29 times ... 

But Jack played in a weak era...

 

Just trying to spice it up some lol

[tiderider]

6 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

So do you think the same about MJ? 
 

Was his rock star status a result of media hype?
 

 

 

 

just want to point out the myth that everyone keeps alive ... he did not take off from the ft line ... his foot is clearly over the line ... 

 

[WesternRacing]

29 minutes ago, tatertot said:

 

Between 1962 to 1972, Jack won 30%of the majors ... finished second 25% of the time ... finished in the Top 10 29 times ... 

 

Both of those stats are why we should maybe just pump the brakes on the ‘Scotty is the new Tiger’ train.  He’s dominating right now, but he has such a long way to go before he matches Jack or Tiger’s dominance.

[tiderider]

39 minutes ago, WesternRacing said:

 

Both of those stats are why we should maybe just pump the brakes on the ‘Scotty is the new Tiger’ train.  He’s dominating right now, but he has such a long way to go before he matches Jack or Tiger’s dominance.

I've not read anyone on any platform that has said Scotty is the new Tiger or Jack ... I've read comparisons with Tiger's statistics, which is not the same as equating SS's accomplishments with Tiger's or Jack's ... literally haven't read anything equating SS to Tiger or Jack in any way ... since SS is at a level that is higher than anyone since Tiger, people are using Tiger for a reference, though comparison is obviously not the equivalent of equating ... have you seen someone claim SS has equaled Tiger? ... I'd like that link ... 

[PedronNiall]

1 hour ago, bscinstnct said:

 

So do you think the same about MJ? 
 

Was his rock star status a result of media hype?
 

 

 

 

 

The point isn't that Tiger was all hype, it's that everything he did was hyped for various reasons and it was something he was fine being a part of. Scottie doesn't feed into it in any way, nor has there been the same push for it even in the biggest moments by anyone else like there was with Tiger. I mean, Jack was blowing up records but he was thought of as boring and reserved and neither played into nor got any of the hype Arnold did. Their levels of greatness or accomplishment aren't directly reflected by how the media and talking heads portray them, and Scottie still doesn't get the same reception and broadcasting of what he does as Tiger even when he matches Tiger's stats, also for various reasons. 

 

Everyone including the media has their favorites. Even if Scottie hits some wild Hail Mary impossible shot to get his grand slam it won't be played up anything like Tiger's saves from even normal tournaments, some of that likely owing to Scottie's probable nonchalance that will accompany it, but low hype it will be. 

[bscinstnct]

1 hour ago, PedronNiall said:

 

The point isn't that Tiger was all hype, it's that everything he did was hyped for various reasons and it was something he was fine being a part of. Scottie doesn't feed into it in any way, nor has there been the same push for it even in the biggest moments by anyone else like there was with Tiger. I mean, Jack was blowing up records but he was thought of as boring and reserved and neither played into nor got any of the hype Arnold did. Their levels of greatness or accomplishment aren't directly reflected by how the media and talking heads portray them, and Scottie still doesn't get the same reception and broadcasting of what he does as Tiger even when he matches Tiger's stats, also for various reasons. 

 

Everyone including the media has their favorites. Even if Scottie hits some wild Hail Mary impossible shot to get his grand slam it won't be played up anything like Tiger's saves from even normal tournaments, some of that likely owing to Scottie's probable nonchalance that will accompany it, but low hype it will be. 

 

I think you have it backwards.
 

The media hype followed TW. Just like it followed MJ. 
 

MJ and TW got the fans attention, they went nuts, and the media jumped on board. That’s what they do. 
 

If SS inspires the fans as they did, the media hype will follow. 
 

Like if he wins 2 majors next year, he will  really be front and center. And then if he keeps winning at TWs pace, be huge hype. 
 

 

Edited July 24 by bscinstnct

[betarhoalphadelta]

7 hours ago, mosesgolf said:

From 1997 to 2008 Tiger won 28% of all the majors he played in.  

 

 

 

Dude... Clean your monitor.

[gvogel]

23 hours ago, mosesgolf said:

From 1997 to 2008 Tiger won 28% of all the majors he played in.  

 

 

From 1923 to 1930 Bobby Jones won 62% of the majors that he played.  64% of the major national championships (US Open, Open Championship)

 

Yes, it was a different era, but relative to his peers, Jones was pretty good.

[gvogel]

19 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

 

I think you have it backwards.
 

The media hype followed TW. Just like it followed MJ. 
 

MJ and TW got the fans attention, they went nuts, and the media jumped on board. That’s what they do. 
 

If SS inspires the fans as they did, the media hype will follow. 
 

Like if he wins 2 majors next year, he will  really be front and center. And then if he keeps winning at TWs pace, be huge hype. 
 

 

And if Scottie'a legs get mangled in a car accident, the hype will be huge-er.

[TiScape]

15 hours ago, betarhoalphadelta said:

 

Dude... Clean your monitor.

 

[mosesgolf]

40 minutes ago, gvogel said:

From 1923 to 1930 Bobby Jones won 62% of the majors that he played.  64% of the major national championships (US Open, Open Championship)

 

Yes, it was a different era, but relative to his peers, Jones was pretty good.

From 1861 to 1867 Old Tom Morris won 4 of the 7 Opens he played in.  At that time the Open was the only major in the world.  57% of winning all the majors.  Another different era but superlative amongst his tough level of competion.  Old Tom Morris was really really good.

[gvogel]

56 minutes ago, mosesgolf said:

From 1861 to 1867 Old Tom Morris won 4 of the 7 Opens he played in.  At that time the Open was the only major in the world.  57% of winning all the majors.  Another different era but superlative amongst his tough level of competion.  Old Tom Morris was really really good.

But Old Tom contended that Young Tom was even better...

[mosesgolf]

11 minutes ago, gvogel said:

But Old Tom contended that Young Tom was even better...

From 1868 to 1872 Young Tom Morris won 4 of the 5 Opens he played.  Winning the Open at 80% clip makes him the Greatest Open Champion ever.

Edited July 25 by mosesgolf