Johnny miller reverse c - 70’s

Jtgavigan · July 13

8 hours ago, RayPlan said:

What would Miller have needed to do to change to avoid the reverse-C finish?

What i kept noticing was his left foot post impact. Never noticed it move that way. Much like modern players.

bladehunter · July 13

27 minutes ago, virtuoso said:

Pretty close.

Does any of this talk have to do with body type ? Meaning. Is the right tilt to help shallow a tall guy or long torso thing ?-vs not so much for average height ?

I’ve been wondering about this very thing. I’m 6/3. Long legs . And the right tilt seems so intuitive to me IF I’m getting a good post up on my lead leg at impact. If I’m sliding / driving legs to the target. Then it’s not so much necessary. It’s exactly like I can’t reach the ball if I post up and really release it , unless I tilt some. What is the preferred combo there ?

virtuoso · July 13

3 hours ago, joedizzy1978 said:

I would start with where his COM is relatively to his feet at p4, less towards his lead.....which would diminish the need for the reverse C. I believe his reverse C was necessary to counteract a p4 that would normally produce low dynamic loft.

His actual COM, or the Morad upper torso “cog”?

virtuoso · July 13

3 hours ago, joedizzy1978 said:

Misread what you wrote and thought you said dont change the backswing....remarked that with Miller's p4, he'd likely look like Sergio p4-p10 without the reverse C

I don’t think anything should be changed. His swing was pure.

sundaypins · July 13

4 hours ago, virtuoso said:

Since miller has an awesome pelvis movement, and canceling upper body hang back is more sternum (after it’s all over at impact), wouldn’t it be a matter of the opposite? IE, sternum goes more lateral from P8 to P10 to stand up the finish.

That's a good way sure, not sure how you're treating trail shoulder from 8 to 10: @ 10 is there side bend or standing more erect.

joedizzy1978 · July 13

42 minutes ago, virtuoso said:

4 hours ago, joedizzy1978 said:

His actual COM, or the Morad upper torso “cog”?

Actual COM but the change would also reorganize upper to lower cogs relative to Morad.

My comments regarding to change are hypothetical....merely answering if there was a gun to my head having to remove the reverse C. Otherwise, let him cash as many checks with the move as is.