Weight Discrepancy in TV BCT Grips - Golf Pride, Titleist, Vokey

caloosajo · July 15

Howdy,

Just went through a mid-season loft/lie/swingweight check-up with one of my go-to builders and came away with some strange discrepancies. Would appreciate any input as to how to troubleshoot build-wise. Caveat: I am not myself a club builder, and only have a couple folks in the Seattle area that I trust to make any adjustments with some restraint.

D / 3W / 5W / 4H: All right around D0-D1 ✅

5i-9i: C8 (T150 1/2" short, 2 deg flat, X100) ✅

Pw, 50deg: C6 (PW is set T150 of same specs, 50deg is SM10, both X100) ❌

54deg, 58deg: C9 (1/2" short, 2 deg flat, S400) ✅

All are Tour Velvet BCT +1 but the PW and 50 deg have felt subjectively (and look) more built up. What I noticed after learning about these swing weight discrepancies is that the PW and 50deg both have Titleist 58 round labeled on the grip butt i.e. 58 round with 2 layers of tape as opposed to the rest of the set which are Golf Pride-branded 60 round with 2 layers of tape.

I've got lead tape to bring up the Pw and 50deg but then it seems a bit silly to now have big built-up grips and a hunk of lead tape for just those two clubs.

Questions:

1. Can the 58 round alone (with same wraps of tape) be enough to change swing weight by 2 points?

2. Has anyone noticed significant grip weight discrepancies between Golf Pride, Titleist, Vokey for the same kind of grip?

3. What is the best way to now get irons/wedges more uniform in swing weight? I am thinking just buy the grips direct from Golf Pride then have builder regrip and swingweight them, but only in the hands of those I trust.

Thanks!

rsballer10 · July 15

1 hour ago, caloosajo said:

Questions:

1. Can the 58 round alone (with same wraps of tape) be enough to change swing weight by 2 points?

No I don't think so. 58R is 2 grams heavier than 60R.

2. Has anyone noticed significant grip weight discrepancies between Golf Pride, Titleist, Vokey for the same kind of grip?

No. You would need 10 grams grip weight difference to change the swing weight reading 2 points.

3. What is the best way to now get irons/wedges more uniform in swing weight? I am thinking just buy the grips direct from Golf Pride then have builder regrip and swingweight them, but only in the hands of those I trust.

Take them to a club builder that can figure out what's going on. PW and 50 degree being lighter than the longer irons could be an issue. 54/58 at C9 is not concerning.

AllWorkNoPlay · July 15

If they were built up by different people, the tape used for build up could be a factor. Different build up tapes can vary by thickness and weight. Also, could just be head/grip/shaft tolerances lined up poorly to produce a low swing weight.

agree with above - might be worth going to someone who knows what they’re doing to figure out if its actually a problem and where the problem is

gdb99 · July 15

The 58R will feel like a bigger grip than a 60R, because it's a thinner inside diameter.

Do you feel like the two clubs in question are lighter? Many people can not tell 2 swing weight points.

Maybe just the grips on those two clubs feeling bigger is throwing you off a bit.

caloosajo · July 15

3 hours ago, gdb99 said:

The 58R will feel like a bigger grip than a 60R, because it's a thinner inside diameter.

Do you feel like the two clubs in question are lighter? Many people can not tell 2 swing weight points.

Maybe just the grips on those two clubs feeling bigger is throwing you off a bit.

It is a very subtle feeling of a lighter club, most noticeable around the greens and with 3/4 shots. Ideally I want the wedges closer to one another in baseline swingweight before playing around with lead tape to get them to D0/D1.

Thanks, y’all!

caloosajo · July 15

6 hours ago, AllWorkNoPlay said:

If they were built up by different people, the tape used for build up could be a factor. Different build up tapes can vary by thickness and weight. Also, could just be head/grip/shaft tolerances lined up poorly to produce a low swing weight.

agree with above - might be worth going to someone who knows what they’re doing to figure out if its actually a problem and where the problem is

That helps confirm my hypothesis. For what it’s worth, the T150 irons and Vokey wedges came from Titleist direct, albeit on different orders. Now I see why some may choose to leave grip in box.

ARL67 · July 15

5g of grip weight ( or tape weight ) is about 1 SWP.

That is a helluvalot of tape discrepancy ( and shear amount of tape ) from one brand to the next to account 2 SWP.

I'd regrip with the matching grip to the rest of your irons.

AllWorkNoPlay · July 15

6 minutes ago, ARL67 said:

5g of grip weight ( or tape weight ) is about 1 SWP.

That is a helluvalot of tape discrepancy ( and shear amount of tape ) from one brand to the next to account 2 SWP.

I'd regrip with the matching grip to the rest of your irons.

Agreed - it’s not the entire story here. Likely not part of it either as we now know both where OEM build from titleist

Likely a mix of factors (head/grip/shaft/length tolerances) that are causing such a low swingweight value. Easiest would be to just regrip and add lead tape till it feels right. Or if money is not a factor or lead tape is a no-go, take it to someone qualified to rebuild to match spec of the rest of the set.