Lightest weighted X STIFF steel shaft on market? Is there anything lighter than 105?

[AbSWFPGA]

Just wondering. I feel like lightest I’ve ever seen is 105 range. 

[Howard_Jones]

36 minutes ago, AbSWFPGA said:

Just wondering. I feel like lightest I’ve ever seen is 105 range. 

Before you ask, please serve the definition of X flex....
- the ONLY valid one, is the one saying X i stiffer than S in THAT MODEL & WEIGHT, so if your thinking was that this labels was meant for compare between different shaft models, you are plain out wrong.

As example TT XP 115 R is stronger than TT XP 95 S, and Grafalloy Blue (white) R, is way stronger than Grafalloy Booyah X flex....so this labels is ONLY valid witting the actual model AND weight, NEVER for compare to anything else than that.

Your question should have been, what is the strongest shaft options below 105 grams....
- Project X graphite iron shafts used to be, would be the answer since the BLUE model was almost identicalto its steel counterpart, but i know that LA golf has a model that might be even stronger at that weight range.

[AbSWFPGA]

8 minutes ago, Howard_Jones said:

Before you ask, please serve the definition of X flex....
- the ONLY valid one, is the one saying X i stiffer than S in THAT MODEL & WEIGHT, so if your thinking was that this labels was meant for compare between different shaft models, you are plain out wrong.

As example TT XP 115 R is stronger than TT XP 95 S, and Grafalloy Blue (white) R, is way stronger than Grafalloy Booyah X flex....so this labels is ONLY valid witting the actual model AND weight, NEVER for compare to anything else than that.

Your question should have been, what is the strongest shaft options below 105 grams....
- Project X graphite iron shafts used to be, would be the answer since the BLUE model was almost identicalto its steel counterpart, but i know that LA golf has a model that might be even stronger at that weight range.

I’m a novice equipment guy. So my question is what shaft that is labeled as a X on the shaft sticker is the lightest weight steel option. My guess was 105. Just trying to be cut and dry my expertise isn’t in all that extra info despite it being useful. I need a dumbed down version of the answer to be honest lol

[Howard_Jones]

15 minutes ago, AbSWFPGA said:

I’m a novice equipment guy. So my question is what shaft that is labeled as a X on the shaft sticker is the lightest weight steel option. My guess was 105. Just trying to be cut and dry my expertise isn’t in all that extra info despite it being useful. I need a dumbed down version of the answer to be honest lol

You GOT the best answer than can be delivered, LABELS means NOTHING outside of its own model and weight, so simply stop looking for what "label options" there is, it makes no sence what so ever, you could just as well ask for color options, they dont tell much about actual flex either.

To make a actual compare of shafts, we have to settle for what kind of measure standard we do it by, and no matter standard we choose, NON of them will deliver a label like "S flex or X flex", only pure numbers as CPM (cycles per minute) or deflection in millimeter with a certain load.

So...we simply cant navigate by flex labels when comparing shafts, NOT EVEN within the same brand, if weight or model is another.

Project X 6.0 vs Project X LZ 6.0 vs Project X LS 6.0 vs Project X IO 6.0 is 4 different flexes, but the 6.0 label is correct WITHIN its own model series, where 6.0 is average 5 CPM softer than 6.5 but 5 cpm stronger than 5.5.....NOTHING else. (10 CPM = 6.0 to 7.0)

 

Edited July 18 by Howard_Jones

[phizzy30]

5 hours ago, Howard_Jones said:

You GOT the best answer than can be delivered, LABELS means NOTHING outside of its own model and weight, so simply stop looking for what "label options" there is, it makes no sence what so ever, you could just as well ask for color options, they dont tell much about actual flex either.

To make a actual compare of shafts, we have to settle for what kind of measure standard we do it by, and no matter standard we choose, NON of them will deliver a label like "S flex or X flex", only pure numbers as CPM (cycles per minute) or deflection in millimeter with a certain load.

So...we simply cant navigate by flex labels when comparing shafts, NOT EVEN within the same brand, if weight or model is another.

Project X 6.0 vs Project X LZ 6.0 vs Project X LS 6.0 vs Project X IO 6.0 is 4 different flexes, but the 6.0 label is correct WITHIN its own model series, where 6.0 is average 5 CPM softer than 6.5 but 5 cpm stronger than 5.5.....NOTHING else. (10 CPM = 6.0 to 7.0)

 

Agree that we would have to go by CPM.  Even if we look at strictly CPM in the MCA line up, the Diamana PD in TX is in the 280's, CPM wise the Diamana BB/WB in TX is in the 270's for example.  Clearly both are labeled TX, however, the PD is 8-12 CPM higher.  It also feels more stout than either BB/WB.  

Edited July 19 by phizzy30