Looking For Diver Recs Based on Trackman Data

[CheerioCheif]

I am looking for some driver recommendations. I tried a bunch of clubs today and captured the data below. I had already hit about 80-100 balls prior. These driver numbers are super disappointing. For reference, I was consistently hitting my 8i today 128-133 carry, with a total distance of 145. Looking at these driver numbers, you'd think I magically aged 45 years in between sessions. Please let me know what you think. My current driver might be 20 years old so I need a driver. Any help is appreciated

 

[bogeypro]

Based purely in these numbers, go with the Cobra.  These could probably be optimized a little more. 

 

What loft were these? 

Edited July 20 by bogeypro

[Veebee3]

Idk how you got 200rpm backspin on a drive but that is incredible lol. Not sure these numbers will be all that helpful if you got tired out after hitting 100+ drives? I think any of these drivers would be just fine for you, I would just pick whichever felt the best and hit it again focusing on shaft selection and loft/hosel adjustment. 

Edited July 20 by Veebee3

[CheerioCheif]

1 hour ago, bogeypro said:

Based purely in these numbers, go with the Cobra.  These could probably be optimized a little more. 

 

What loft were these? 

All 10.5 except Gt2 was at 10

[bogeypro]

39 minutes ago, CheerioCheif said:

All 10.5 except Gt2 was at 10

 

Check out the chart here.  It gives the optimum launch and spin numbers for your ball speed. 

 

https://ping.com/en-us/blogs/proving-grounds/optimal-launch-and-spin#:~:text=In the optimal launch and,in the recommended spin rate.

 

 

Edited July 21 by bogeypro

[POKeefe]

Your numbers are kind of all over the place. I wonder if a lesson would be more helpful at the moment. Any pre-owned driver off Callaway or Global Golf will be less than half the price and give you similar results.

 

At your clubhead speed, I’d be looking at a senior flex and 12* head. You could use some spin and height.

[grochol17]

Honestly, I don't think you can take away much from that chart because your numbers are all over the place... your clubhead speed varied by 10 mph and ball speed varied by almost 30 mph.  Either you were tired from hitting 80-100 balls before this test, or you need to look consider a shorter playing length for your driver.  You're going to gain a lot more from a more consistent swing and finding the center of the face more often than just buying a new driver.

[Howard_Jones]

7 hours ago, CheerioCheif said:

I am looking for some driver recommendations. I tried a bunch of clubs today and captured the data below. I had already hit about 80-100 balls prior. These driver numbers are super disappointing. For reference, I was consistently hitting my 8i today 128-133 carry, with a total distance of 145. Looking at these driver numbers, you'd think I magically aged 45 years in between sessions. Please let me know what you think. My current driver might be 20 years old so I need a driver. Any help is appreciated

 

Only a few players is able to perform good after 100 swings, so its NOT the time for a fitting session.
Drivers tried, seems to be plain standard off the rack (trial and error, not fitting) so combined, numbers is as expected, all over the place where non of them can be used for anything. Exception would be the #8 iron...way to much roll out for a #8 iron, who should not be much more than 1/3 of the roll out you have. Thats really all what this numbers is telling.

Your irons has a need for weaker lofts (minimum 2 weaker) to get higher launch, spin and steeper descent (minimum 45), so stopping power improves.
Its hard to see where that ends, but it should give a PW carry thats about 100 yard carry, telling your Driver carry POTENTIAL is up against 200 as carry (upper half 80s club speed as average)

But you need a REAL club fitting to get there, a session like this will not.
If your current driver is 20 yrs old, its not much resale value in it, so read this link  and try it off, you might see the numbers i estimate from that club with a few mods...Start with that, and you are better prepared for a real club fitting.
 

 

 

Edited July 21 by Howard_Jones

[Drivingrangehero]

You need to control the strike point on the face better, and going through Howard’s DIY will maximize what you are working with for starters

 

You need more launch and spin at that speed, so a driver 12° or higher will raise launch and spin a bit

 

 

Tour Edge makes drivers that are geared for guys that need more launch and spin in their Hot Launch series. You can get some new or even pre-owned for less than half of what you would spend on the drivers you have listed, and may out perform due to your need for more launch and spin 

 

https://www.touredge.com/products/tour-edge-hot-launch-e522-driver?variant=40651824758893

 

check out some of their offerings ⬆️ ⬇️ 

 

https://www.touredge.com/collections/drivers?filter.v.price.gte=&filter.v.price.lte=&sort_by=price-ascending

Edited July 21 by Drivingrangehero

[Howard_Jones]

4 hours ago, Drivingrangehero said:

You need to control the strike point on the face better, and going through Howard’s DIY will maximize what you are working with for starters

 

You need more launch and spin at that speed, so a driver 12° or higher will raise launch and spin a bit

 

 

Tour Edge makes drivers that are geared for guys that need more launch and spin in their Hot Launch series. You can get some new or even pre-owned for less than half of what you would spend on the drivers you have listed, and may out perform due to your need for more launch and spin 

 

https://www.touredge.com/products/tour-edge-hot-launch-e522-driver?variant=40651824758893

 

check out some of their offerings ⬆️ ⬇️ 

 

https://www.touredge.com/collections/drivers?filter.v.price.gte=&filter.v.price.lte=&sort_by=price-ascending

I agrea with the most, except loft, i really think its to early to judge that need.
- If we use (but we should not) the numbers delivered, his average launch is actually good, except for the last club, the issue is really a impact pattern thats all over the face, and deliversgood launch on some, bad on others, and for the same reason spin values is the full scale possible with down at 200 and way above 4000....

BUTsince the player, even with this "all over the place numbers" his AOA is in general positive, so he get a better "exchange rate" from dynamic loft to launch than many others, so i really think this has to be done the right way, by finding basic specs first, then the shaft that jives the best with his swing, THEN we can take a look at his numbers when impact pattern and trends is tightened up.

I did not have many players at this club speed, but as example i had 1 player with a neutral AOA and about 90 cs who got the best numbers with 13 loft, and the same week, a player at 93-94 with a AOA up aginst +4 who got the best numbers from only 7.5 of loft.

I think thr OPs CS with a club that fits him will be about 86-89 and his AOA is on the report above, more than plus 2 as average, so at the moment, i think loft around 10.5 is OK to move on with, untill the rest is set right.

[CheerioCheif]

11 hours ago, Howard_Jones said:

I agrea with the most, except loft, i really think its to early to judge that need.
- If we use (but we should not) the numbers delivered, his average launch is actually good, except for the last club, the issue is really a impact pattern thats all over the face, and deliversgood launch on some, bad on others, and for the same reason spin values is the full scale possible with down at 200 and way above 4000....

BUTsince the player, even with this "all over the place numbers" his AOA is in general positive, so he get a better "exchange rate" from dynamic loft to launch than many others, so i really think this has to be done the right way, by finding basic specs first, then the shaft that jives the best with his swing, THEN we can take a look at his numbers when impact pattern and trends is tightened up.

I did not have many players at this club speed, but as example i had 1 player with a neutral AOA and about 90 cs who got the best numbers with 13 loft, and the same week, a player at 93-94 with a AOA up aginst +4 who got the best numbers from only 7.5 of loft.

I think thr OPs CS with a club that fits him will be about 86-89 and his AOA is on the report above, more than plus 2 as average, so at the moment, i think loft around 10.5 is OK to move on with, untill the rest is set right.

Agreed. Usually I’m at 86-89mph on average. Sometime early on I’ll break 90mph. Problem is spin. I always struggle a bit with spin being on the lower side.