Are you a good student/proper practice

[MonteScheinblum]

7 hours ago, iacas said:

 

I mean, one of the items on the list (give it a listen, Monte!) is "be on time and take care of payment." 🤣 A student who no-show/no-calls isn't being a good student. They've wasted your time.

 

But that's one of the few items that isn't really about getting better at golf directly. Most of the items speak to how a student "makes an effort." Or makes their "best" effort. Because you can "make an effort" or really want to and try to get better, but how do you make that effort:

1. Be Open to Change.
2. Be Willing to Work.
3. Ask Good and Relevant Questions.
4. Be on Time and Take Care of Payment.
5. Be clear about your expectations and ability to practice.
6. Don’t say you want to be more consistent.
7. Slow down.
8. Be patient.
9. Be yourself.
10. Have a growth mindset.
11. Work on one thing at a time.
12. Accept that you may hit it a little worse for awhile.
13. Stay in touch with your coach, because they care.
14. Be willing to exaggerate.

Now…

• 1 and 10 are similar, but not identical.
• Ditto for 2 and 5.
• 6 is a bit of an inside joke as you know.
• 12 is different if you're in a place with seasons: I'm more skill based or make smaller changes with more immediate positive results in the summer than late fall/winter.
• 11 should be read a few times.
• 7 and 14 are big for me.

So, most of the items on the list are how a golf student "makes an effort."

 

Anyway, the episode is less than 20 minutes long, so give it a listen.

No shows aren’t being bad students, they are miserable a-holes.  

[getitdaily]

13 minutes ago, ThinkingPlus said:

We have a range membership.  Range balls are free (LOL). Actually 3 large buckets a day. That's roughly 300 balls for the two of us. It we hit all of them every day, we would be crippled in a week.

 

My struggle with slow motion swings is I can't hit the ball (embarrassing). My stock 8i goes 130 or so. I can hit it 100 or 110 or 120, but not with a slow full swing. I choke down and hit various length punches to dial in the distance. Not great at it, but doable. Full slow swing is topped, bladed, chunked, and shanked (sounds like an incompetent law firm).

This is why slow swings are bunk.

 

Slow micro motions to.drill a movement. But not an entire slow motion swing...that's bunk

[Jtgavigan]

I have taken some lessons over the last 5 years both in person and online. Some instructors have been better than others. However, I can say I learned something from all of them. Listening to Iacas and Monte on here, and a few folks on YouTube (AMG, Mike Adams and Terry Rowles, etc.) have helped me understand the components of a good swing and what good sequencing looks like. I also have run some things by Valtiel as well. What I would say is that there are some consistent themes I have heard, but each person has stressed something different first and some have been more effective at getting me to change. However, not one of the teaching pros talked to me about how my hips outrace my arms (Valtiel did).  

 

In May, I went to Dan Carraher (iteachgolf on here) as he coaches at a course 20 minutes from me that I used to play all the time. I have known him for years, but he is pricey (and very good imo). He gave me a simple drill, but one that was very hard for me to do. I went out and shot 67 about two weeks later, but I knew I didn't have what he asked me to do ingrained. What he told me helped, but I wasn't "there" and I knew it. I still message him from time to time with progress, but just like the video Monte posted on IG today, I fail the two sequencing checkpoints. 43 years in my old pattern. 2 months into TRYING my new one. I am trying some different drills to get me there in addition to what Dan gave me (I am still doing that several times a week), but I am focused on what we talked about back in May as my end goal. I have a net and hit balls with 9 to 3 swings, slow motion swings, and full swings. I told him ahead of time I was willing to grind away on the work to get there. I was sick of my left misses. Progress is slow, but steady. 

In hindsight, if I had seen Dan 4 years ago, I might be miles better than I am now. I think a good instructor gets you to the heart of the matter the quickest. However, it still takes us, the students, to put in the work to understand the what and the why of the changes and spend the time trying to ingrain them.

Just my 2 cents. 

[BSI99]

1 hour ago, johnrobison said:

If your goal is to hit balls far, that makes sense.

If your goal is to improve, they're not wasted. That's exactly why you paid for them.

As much as I like to think my goal is to improve at the range, if I'm being honest improvement is secondary. I go to the range primarily because I love to flush long irons. Even though I'll go entire rounds without hitting them I probably hit half of my shots in the 6i-4i gap range because flushing a 4 iron is one of the best feelings in the world.

[MK7Golf21]

2 hours ago, MonteScheinblum said:

No shows aren’t being bad students, they are miserable a-holes.  

Charge them like 50% for no show, bet that stops pretty quickly and get paid money for doing nothing. 

[iacas]

7 hours ago, BSI99 said:

I'm a good student in the sense I'll listen, I'm a terrible student in the sense I hate slow motion swings. I'm paying for range balls I don't want to waste half of them on shots that go 100 feet. 

 

They're not wasted if they are done with the right purpose. Seeing them as wasted is a thing you may want to get over if you want to get better faster.

[airjammer]

6 hours ago, getitdaily said:

Your statement is a big, big statement. 

 

Have thought about making a thread that talks about that as an obstacle to people getting better. Right or wrong, there's a value marker on each ball for people who go to a range and dont have an unlimited range membership. 

 

It's easy for someone to say "ballflight doesn't matter" or "hit 75% of your practice balls as half shots". But when someone forks over $25+ for a basket of balls, they're thinking about repetition and full flight. 

I think we have a lot to learn about changing motor patterns. I’m think in the not so distant future we will find that slow motion practice has limited benefits for full body fast motions because there are too many forces acting on the club at fast speed that aren’t the same at slow speed. 

[MonteScheinblum]

29 minutes ago, iacas said:

 

They're not wasted if they are done with the right purpose. Seeing them as wasted is a thing you may want to get over if you want to get better faster.

Waste of time?  If you can’t manage the low point and face/path on a PW hit 50 yards from waist high to waist high, how do you expect to do it on a full swing.

 

Golf is the only sport that people think they can make changes at full speed.

 

If a pitcher is having trouble locating because he is planting his lead foot too far toward first base, he goes to the bull pen and throws 70 mph to the catcher until he consistently plants his foot correctly.  
 

A track sprinter, especially hurdlers, who have  stride lengths that are off, jog around the track until they reacquire  their proper stride.

 

Football teams do walk throughs on new plays or plays where the timing has been off.

 

Jump shooters mindlessly shoot free throws and little bunnies around the rim for hundreds of hours when their shot is off….even when their shot is on.

 

Every fault our swings have are rooted in a misunderstanding on how to apply speed to the club head, so full speed practice will just ingrain the current problem.  
 

Go to a range at a PGA Tour event of Friday afternoon where almost everyone are missed cuts.  They are hitting 3/4 and 1/2 wedges to require their sequencing that was poor that week.

 

Those that rebuke the idea are doomed to prove Einsteins theory of insanity.  

 

When I practice a faulty movement, 75% of my shots are less than full.  It’s not uncommon for me to hit 9 iron 100-120 yards for an hour straight.  LW 60 yards.  Basically the only time I hit anything more than 7 iron on the range is when I’m warming up to play………or when people on the internet frustrate me and I want to pound drivers to unload some excess tension and anxiety.

 

I took a guy from 135 mph to 150 mph in 5 lessons where he hit 7 iron for the first 50 minutes and he’s now top 30/40 in the world.

 

If nothing else, learning to hit your 8 iron the distance you hit your PW is a valuable shot to acquire that basically 95% of golfers don’t have,

Edited July 24 by MonteScheinblum

[iacas]

20 minutes ago, airjammer said:

I think we have a lot to learn about changing motor patterns. I’m think in the not so distant future we will find that slow motion practice has limited benefits for full body fast motions because there are too many forces acting on the club at fast speed that aren’t the same at slow speed. 

 

Nobody's said you only make slow motion swings, man. You start at a speed where you can make small mistakes and then go a little faster.

 

If 100 is doing the thing you're working on perfectly, and you're currently a 78, make swings at a speed where you can make swings that are 90 to 110. When every swing you make is like 97 to 103, you can go faster, until you're up to full speed.

 

I think we have a lot to learn, too. I don't think that what we learn will include "slow swings are bad or not useful."

 

1 minute ago, MonteScheinblum said:

Waste of time?  Golf is the only sport that people think they can make changes at full speed.

 

Yup. Baseball pitchers and hitters work at slow speeds. Andrew McCutchen is on a show around here going through his batting process. He starts by hitting the balls off a tee just to the outfield grass. He increases the speed so long as he has barrel control. He then gets slow tosses, and slowly ramps up the speed of the pitches he's thrown as long as he continues to control his barrel.

 

1 minute ago, MonteScheinblum said:

If a pitcher is having trouble locating because he is planting his lead foot too far toward first base, he goes to the bull pen and throws 70 mph to the catcher until he consistently plants his foot correctly.  
 

A track sprinter, especially hurdlers, who get have stride lengths that are off, jog around the track until they require their proper stride.

 

Football teams do walk throughs on new plays or plays where the timing has been off.

 

Jump shooters mindlessly shoot free throws and little bunnies around the rim for hundreds of hours when their shot is off….even when their shot is on.

 

The list goes on and on.

 

1 minute ago, MonteScheinblum said:

Every fault our swings have are rooted in a misunderstanding on how to apply speed to the club head, so full speed practice will just ingrain the current problem.

 

And worse yet, the golfer will have no idea if they actually changed anything or not.

[Ajgaguy83]

8 minutes ago, MonteScheinblum said:

hit your 8 iron the distance you hit your PW is a valuable shot

Is this done with a full swing with a slower pace or is the intent to shorten the swing and keep nearly the same pace as the way to reduce distance?

 

Or wait there’s more……. option 3, is it a combination of both?

[MonteScheinblum]

6 minutes ago, Ajgaguy83 said:

Is this done with a full swing with a slower pace or is the intent to shorten the swing and keep nearly the same pace as the way to reduce distance?

 

Or wait there’s more……. option 3, is it a combination of both?

Option 3 keeps the spin down 

[MK7Golf21]

1 hour ago, MonteScheinblum said:

 

Go to a range at a PGA Tour event of Friday afternoon where almost everyone are missed cuts.  They are hitting 3/4 and 1/2 wedges to require their sequencing that was poor that week.

 

Those that rebuke the idea are doomed to prove Einsteins theory of insanity.  

 

When I practice a faulty movement, 75% of my shots are less than full.  It’s not uncommon for me to hit 9 iron 100-120 yards for an hour straight.  LW 60 yards.  Basically the only time I hit anything more than 7 iron on the range is when I’m warming up to play………or when people on the internet frustrate me and I want to pound drivers to unload some excess tension and anxiety.

 

I took a guy from 135 mph to 150 mph in 5 lessons where he hit 7 iron for the first 50 minutes and he’s now top 30/40 in the world.

 

If nothing else, learning to hit your 8 iron the distance you hit your PW is a valuable shot to acquire that basically 95% of golfers don’t have,

Few years back some friends and I at a tournament watched Brian Harmon hit I’m guessing a 7 iron short distances all the way up to full distance aiming at different flags. Was impressive the control he had.

 

For me, one time I played a round  swinging my wedge shots at like 60% effort. Was interesting because the flight lowered and they actually went farther by a decent amount. I’m thinking because I might have been hitting the ball lower on the face with the slower, smooth swing. 

[airjammer]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

 

Nobody's said you only make slow motion swings, man. You start at a speed where you can make small mistakes and then go a little faster.

 

If 100 is doing the thing you're working on perfectly, and you're currently a 78, make swings at a speed where you can make swings that are 90 to 110. When every swing you make is like 97 to 103, you can go faster, until you're up to full speed.

 

I think we have a lot to learn, too. I don't think that what we learn will include "slow swings are bad or not useful."

 

 

Yup. Baseball pitchers and hitters work at slow speeds. Andrew McCutchen is on a show around here going through his batting process. He starts by hitting the balls off a tee just to the outfield grass. He increases the speed so long as he has barrel control. He then gets slow tosses, and slowly ramps up the speed of the pitches he's thrown as long as he continues to control his barrel.

 

 

The list goes on and on.

 

 

And worse yet, the golfer will have no idea if they actually changed anything or not.

I didn’t say only, I said limited. For backswing issues they are probably very helpful. Anything in transition or later pretty much useless if trying to change a full swing attribute as I believe everything after transition is reactionary. 
 

I think in the future some people will learn motor skills with feedback at 100% or more of perceived effort. I’m not a scientist so it’s just my opinion my own experiences. 
 

For me personally, my swing changed dramatically in a very short period of time when I started speed training a couple years ago…not all positive. So that got me thinking..was that because I was trying to move faster and my body got accustomed to new positions faster or was it the fact I was getting positive feedback thru a launch monitor so my brain accepted these positions as positive changes?
 

From what I have watched of Dr. Kwon’s youtube channel, he doesn’t believe in slow motion training as I’ve never heard him say slow down so I always thought that was interesting. 
 

Here us something that isn’t quite motor pattern related but being that I watch everyone YouTube at 1.75x, I thought it was quite interesting. 
https://www.sportscienceagency.com/blog/jayden-daniels-how-virtual-reality-and-ai-are-transforming-quarterback-decision-making

 

This part is gettIng into the weeds so feel free to stop reading here😂

 

Lastly, for a long time I’ve wanted someone to do a experiment where they take golfers hooked up to 3d sensors and force plates and have an instructor get them to make a change in their swing while hitting a impact bag or something else they couldn’t judge the strike. The main change would be they would be give them fake data that would be ever increasingly positive for them as they get closer to the desired change. After several weeks, finally allow them to take real shots and see if they revert to old habits after some bad shots if they have received an extreme amount of positive feedback previously. 
 

I believe your body has the ability to have refined abilities or sensory capabilities when doing something new that goes away after a short period of time when your mind realizes that it wasn’t needed for some sort of life or death threat or maybe even goes away if it gets bored. That would explain why some people perform a movement during a lesson and hit good shots snd then usually the next range session do the same drills and hit it like garbage. Idk just feels like we have yet to discover what causes swing thoughts to work one day but be a disaster the next. 

[MonteScheinblum]

1 hour ago, MK7Golf21 said:

Few years back some friends and I at a tournament watched Brian Harmon hit I’m guessing a 7 iron short distances all the way up to full distance aiming at different flags. Was impressive the control he had.

 

For me, one time I played a round  swinging my wedge shots at like 60% effort. Was interesting because the flight lowered and they actually went farther by a decent amount. I’m thinking because I might have been hitting the ball lower on the face with the slower, smooth swing. 

Golfers are shocked at how low your players hit wedges.  Part of it is better impact but mostly they are proud of their 150 yard PW that goes 140 feet in the air.  They are proud of their 135 yard PW that goes 80 feet in the air and bear the hole more often.  
 

The worse the golfer, the closer to their max their stock wedges are.

[iacas]

29 minutes ago, airjammer said:

I didn’t say only, I said limited. For backswing issues they are probably very helpful. Anything in transition or later pretty much useless if trying to change a full swing attribute as I believe everything after transition is reactionary.

 

Unless you're calling "transition" past about P5… no, not everything after transition is reactionary. You can still "do things" after the transition. Not long, and not much past P5. But after the transition? Sure.

 

29 minutes ago, airjammer said:

I think in the future some people will learn motor skills with feedback at 100% or more of perceived effort. I’m not a scientist so it’s just my opinion my own experiences.

 

I'd take that bet, except there's no real bet to be had as "in the future" and "some" are vague. And at 100% speed in a putting stroke? Sure. We can do that now. In a driver swing? Depending on the move, we can do that now. But it's a small list.

 

29 minutes ago, airjammer said:

From what I have watched of Dr. Kwon’s youtube channel, he doesn’t believe in slow motion training as I’ve never heard him say slow down so I always thought that was interesting.

 

Dr. Kwon is also not a golf instructor. He's focused almost entirely on speed, so it wouldn't make sense for him to have golfers swing slowly.

 

I've known quite a few people who went to see him, including us a looooong time ago. October 2013. Yikes.

 

29 minutes ago, airjammer said:

Here us something that isn’t quite motor pattern related but being that I watch everyone YouTube at 1.75x, I thought it was quite interesting. 
https://www.sportscienceagency.com/blog/jayden-daniels-how-virtual-reality-and-ai-are-transforming-quarterback-decision-making

 

That's mental stuff. Decision making and processing speed. It's not training someone to use their wrists and forearms differently to release the club in a way that's foreign to them.

 

29 minutes ago, airjammer said:

That would explain why some people perform a movement during a lesson and hit good shots snd then usually the next range session do the same drills and hit it like garbage. Idk just feels like we have yet to discover what causes swing thoughts to work one day but be a disaster the next. 

 

Your body is different day by day and feels change. Golfers are often bad at starting with the same exaggeration level when the instructor isn't there to tell them to do it.

[MK7Golf21]

8 minutes ago, MonteScheinblum said:

Golfers are shocked at how low your players hit wedges.  Part of it is better impact but mostly they are proud of their 150 yard PW that goes 140 feet in the air.  They are proud of their 135 yard PW that goes 80 feet in the air and bear the hole more often.  
 

The worse the golfer, the closer to their max their stock wedges are.

I think the most difficult shot for the am golfer is the low flighted wedge. 

[MonteScheinblum]

3 minutes ago, MK7Golf21 said:

I think the most difficult shot for the am golfer is the low flighted wedge. 

Agree because none have developed the skill to stop a backswing at left arm parallel.  

[phizzy30]

On 7/23/2025 at 7:10 PM, ThinkingPlus said:

I didn't watch all the AMG video. Sounded like it was going to be an infomercial for that swing training app I can't use.

 

Listened to the podcast. I am not a very good student. I suck at drills and slow motion swinging. I also tend to have unrealistic expectations. It’s all on me for sure, though. Just grinding it out on my own right now. Maybe I'll do something online one day and try to be a good student. Otherwise I'll keep digging it out of the plastic.

Same here.  I've gotten so many lessons when I was younger and I've had teachers that were feel based and others that were really technical(doesn't do it for me).  I literally have to do the extreme end of the motion that I'm supposed to do over and over again to get the right feel which is the only thing that really works for me.  My swing is in a really good place right now, but it took a lot of blood, sweat and some tears to get it to where it is now, lol.  I've definitely been where you are though.  I'm sure you'll figure it out soon though.  

Edited July 25 by phizzy30

[phizzy30]

10 hours ago, BSI99 said:

Also part of it is straight up embarrassment I think. People are embarrassed to hit 40 yard pitch shots on the range

I'm not.  In fact, I dedicate 20 balls at the very end to the 30-40 yard.  40% for driver(weakest part), 30% irons(decent), and the rest go to misc. things that I feel like I need to work on at any given moment.  

[otto6457]

I'm not sure if I'm a "good student"  I honestly try as hard as I can to be a good student.  

 

I do know I'm a loyal student.  I've had the same swing coach since 2009.  It's an 18 hour round trip drive to go see him, and I go 2-3 times a year.  Going to work with him is some of the best days in my year.

 

I might be an outlier, but I honestly believe that one of the really important parts of getting really good at this crazy game is having one consistent swing methodology to focus on. Having one voice in your head and in your training, day in and day out, is so important.  Reinventing your swing every time you have some struggles is a recipe for never getting better.  There are a lot of folks right in this forum that have posted swings, asked for swing help, and then admit they just got done with a lesson from a teacher they just went to see.  THAT my friends is madness!

 

There are so many voices out there.  So many of them are so slick and so well produced.  Some of these instructional videos have better production than some prime time TV shows. You almost feel guilty for not believing this new swing method they are selling isn't the greatest thing ever.  Look how amazing these swings are!  Look at those numbers!  Oh my...take my money!!!

 

I personally feel a lot of them are borderline snake oil salesmen.  But I'm not smart enough to know the difference so I just tune it all out and focus on what my swing coach tells me I need to work on.

 

my .02 

 

 

 

 

[PedronNiall]

10 hours ago, getitdaily said:

Your statement is a big, big statement. 

 

Have thought about making a thread that talks about that as an obstacle to people getting better. Right or wrong, there's a value marker on each ball for people who go to a range and dont have an unlimited range membership. 

 

It's easy for someone to say "ballflight doesn't matter" or "hit 75% of your practice balls as half shots". But when someone forks over $25+ for a basket of balls, they're thinking about repetition and full flight. 

 

You can always make more money; you can never get your time back. If someone values both they'll want to be as efficient as possible, and it's more efficient to ingrain new movements by getting them correct time after time after time in a row than it is to flail at balls because it's more fun in the moment. As with most things touted repeatedly here, there's plenty of research backing it. 

 

Crazier still to bemoan the "wasting" of a partial bucket on the most beneficial method of learning only to then pay for round after round of golf playing poorly because range sessions are about beating balls instead of getting better. 

 

4 hours ago, airjammer said:

I think we have a lot to learn about changing motor patterns. I’m think in the not so distant future we will find that slow motion practice has limited benefits for full body fast motions because there are too many forces acting on the club at fast speed that aren’t the same at slow speed. 

 

We already have evidence of the value of learning motions through both slower-paced intentional movements, through full speed partial movements, and finally full movements at speed to complete the new mapping. There's a big difference between moving through the positions of a good swing slowly, usually with a focus on the backswing, and actually trying to make a full range of motion for one and hit a ball so slowly. Walking through how all points should feel does have value, though, hence instructors often helping new players to do so or helping players feel what's a big departure from their old swing.

 

If you're so sure about it, though,  there's an entire world of sports and other arenas who will make you a millionaire many times over if you can prove current vetted research wrong and show that training at speed is the faster way to go. You could steal all of TPI's business to start since they foolishly walk the pros and their featured clients through intentional, paced reps when showing them new movements. Probably just outdated foolishness. 

[TexasTurf]

1 hour ago, MonteScheinblum said:

Agree because none have developed the skill to stop a backswing at left arm parallel.  

Not in your case, but if your clubhead is only about a foot behind the ball and 10 inches off the ground at left arm parallel, it's pretty hard to make a swing from there.

[MonteScheinblum]

57 minutes ago, TexasTurf said:

Not in your case, but if your clubhead is only about a foot behind the ball and 10 inches off the ground at left arm parallel, it's pretty hard to make a swing from there.

LOL…..have to agree with you.  😁👍

[TheDeanAbides]

15 hours ago, Quahog217 said:

No I didn't actually know this guy was stack and tilt when I started

This is a huge problem. you should always know what your teacher's philosophy is. Otherwise it's like investing in a new car after getting rid of your functional old one, but nobody tells you what you're buying. I'm amazed that you did this as a low cap player.

[TheDeanAbides]

10 hours ago, getitdaily said:

This is why slow swings are bunk.

 

Slow micro motions to.drill a movement. But not an entire slow motion swing...that's bunk

Slow swings or slow motion swings? They're not the same thing. 

[TheDeanAbides]

7 hours ago, airjammer said:

I think we have a lot to learn about changing motor patterns. I’m think in the not so distant future we will find that slow motion practice has limited benefits for full body fast motions because there are too many forces acting on the club at fast speed that aren’t the same at slow speed. 

Again, are we talking slow motion, like the old footage of Hogan, or slower than full speed swings? I see very little value in slow motion swings other than as a meditation, but slower than full speed is critical - say, 50% of your full speed or smaller swing. 

 

Anyone who says those are bunk is a moron. 

Edited July 25 by TheDeanAbides

[PutterKilledTheDream]

Hello friends it has been a hot minute.Good to see everybody. 

[getitdaily]

4 hours ago, TheDeanAbides said:

Slow swings or slow motion swings? They're not the same thing. 

Slow swings to me, is a full swing in slow motion. I wouldn't ever do a full swing in slow motion.

 

Thats why I say slow micro motions. If I'm working on a change, lets say a better position from p1 to p3, I'll go slow from p1 to p3, reset, slow again, reset, then a full speed full swing. Same if I'm working on transition. Im close to regular speed to p3 and then from.p3 to p4.5-p5 I'm slow and exaggerated. Reset, drill, reset, full.swing at full pace.

 

I just dont ever see where a full swing done slow is beneficial f9r anything. Slow motions are to drill a change. A full swing done slow would mean you're trying to chnage the whole swing at once...no bueno.

[bluedot]

This is a subject near and dear to my heart; I was a HS basketball coach for 39 years and constantly dealt with players who were, and were NOT, good students.  
 

So here are things I believe; I think these apply to every sport, including, obviously, golf:

 

1. The average person has NO concept of the reps that go into being really good at something, and they likewise have no idea of the reps that go into making changes.

 

2. The average person thinks of practice as hard work; really good players think of practice as fun if they think about it at all.  Practice is just what they do; they may like it almost as much as they do actually playing the game. 
 

3. If you’re working with a good coach/teacher/instructor and they give you a drill, it is very possible that you are going to HATE that drill.  Which probably means that it’s the exact drill you need to be doing. (The same thing is true in the weight room, btw)

 

Now to golf:

 

4. Golf is the only sport I know of in which people spend vast quantities of time and money, but are resistant to instruction.  That resistance takes the form of refusing to take lessons at all, or refusing to commit to the changes, or simply not understanding that a 30 to 60 minute lesson by itself won’t make the change.

 

When I was coaching basketball and was working with a player of their shot, the universal comment when we changed something was, “That feels weird!”  My answer was always the same: “Well, if you shoot 200 times a day all summer that way, it not only won’t feel weird anymore, but you’ll enjoy watching the damn ball go in the basket!”

 

Some players did that; most didn’t.  But it’s made me a great student, I think.  I work consistently with a great teaching pro, and I commit to what he tells me to do.  I NEVER tell him that something feels weird, and I do the drills he gives me to death, even when I hate them.  And above all else, I put in the reps.

[MK7Golf21]

I’m still trying trying to learn how my 13 year old nephew throws a spiral on every football throw when we play catch. I’ve asked him how he learned and he said he wasn’t taught anything. Asked him if he watched YouTube videos and he said no. Says he just does it. 

 

I tried getting him to teach me but he just “does it”. So, that kind of blew out of the water that things like athletic motions don’t come naturally to some, especially young.