Vintage Masters WITB Shots

[mat562]

Bags of Yesteryear

For those who are interested, some shots of the bags of former Masters winners:

'93 to '97 Inclusive; Langer, Olazabal, Crenshaw, Faldo, Woods.

[tigerwooooo]

Cool find mate! Wow those clubs look mean!! :clapping:

 

I'm glad that I still keep a set of the MP-14 whose serial number on the ferrule is 07770 - very special; an entire set of 2-PW. I lef tthis set together with my old-school vokey wedges in Shanghai for business rounds.

 

MP-14 is definitely one of the classic sets that are difficult to play hahaha

[easyyy]

They do look pure. Dynamic gold and muscle back irons. Sharp leading edges.

[Eck42]

Thank you very much for posting. Great pictures!!! Where did you find those? Are they out of a magazine?

 

Thanks again-I have always wanted to see Faldo's clubs from the '96 Masters and here they are!!

[benclab]

Is that two one irons in the first bag? Or am I just seeing things. What irons were taken out, does anyone know?

[mat562]

That other 1 iron's actually a 4 iron. As I remember, Langer won with the 1 iron in the bag, as did Olazabal the following year. Olazabal generally carried both a 1 and a 2 iron whilst also carrying just two wedges (albeit in his '99 victory he ditched the 2 iron for an additional Cleveland 485 60-degree wedge), whereas Langer always omitted the 2 iron from his set back then and carried an old Titleist Peter Kostis lob wedge in its place. Crenshaw's bag seems to have an iron missing (a 3 or 5 iron?) but a 2 iron present. Maybe a bit of Furyk-esque loft-pinching going on to make up for the missing club?

 

Faldo carried both a 2 iron and a 5 wood that year (with no 3 wood) and Woods carried that bag as seen in the photos including that MP29 2 iron.

 

Incidentally, I remember having a look in Olazabal's bag around that time, and the 'Maruman' sand wedge he was carrying looked almost exactly like the stock Mizuno TP-9 sand wedge he played for several years when he was with Mizuno ay the start of his career - almost as though it had been carbon copied. in fact, and just had a Maruman stamp put on the back..

[Hoover98]

I don't remember that Cobra driver being a bore-thru. Its also in the 3rd bag pic, non-bore-thru. Maybe the whole "Tour vs. Retail" dates back further than we thought....

 

[mat562]

I noticed that too. It's the only bore-thru Cobra I remember seeing. Certainly, my old faithful hasn't got one.

 

That Wood Brothers driver of Langer's was a long-lived club. If I remember rightly he used that for a good five years after that photo was taken, and was among the last of the top flight players to permanently switch to a metal driver.

 

Those Dyna Powered sand wedges must have been a bit special...

[lagpressure]

All Metal woods should have been banned years ago..

Woods are called woods for a reason... they are supposed to be made of wood..

 

Could you imagine if Major League Baseball went to aluminum bats or even worse, titanium bats...

and to top it off, made the bats as wide around as grapefruits? Then every second baseman could hit

100 plus homers a year and break Ruths records..

 

Welcome to the USGA..

 

I can't believe they allowed this to happen..

 

they sold out the game...

 

pathetic..

[villa]

All Metal woods should have been banned years ago..

Woods are called woods for a reason... they are supposed to be made of wood..

 

Could you imagine if Major League Baseball went to aluminum bats or even worse, titanium bats...

and to top it off, made the bats as wide around as grapefruits? Then every second baseman could hit

100 plus homers a year and break Ruths records..

 

Welcome to the USGA..

 

I can't believe they allowed this to happen..

 

they sold out the game...

 

pathetic..

And irons aren't made out of iron anymore so let's change that as well!

 

Your sentiments do ring true though. Only the other day I was speaking to the creator of this thread regarding the death of ball striking. Everyone fears long irons now and anyone born after 1985 probably hasn't hit a wooden headed driver!

 

The fact is though that they all play with the same equipment. No-one has an advantage of another because of what they use. Courses have gotten longer and more difficult to accomodate and as a result, scores haven't dramatically reduced in the last 20 years. Add to that the fact that modern equipment has allowed more people to play the game and then all of a sudden, it's not such a bad thing.

 

Great pics by the way. Another chance to reminisce on when men were men and still hit long irons.

 

The bore-through deep face wasn't made specifically for Tiger but you didn't see many of them about. I want to say that Payne Stewart used one for a short time but I could be wrong. I believe Cobra produced a limited number of comemorative versions after Tigers '97 Masters win.

[mat562]

What I find interesting is the clubs that are in those photos - and that were typical a few years back - are often very different to the logo on the bag. Most clubs back then were (and many of those in the above photos clearly are) somewhat careworn. Olazabal's Miuras look pretty new, but the rest have all hit more than a shot or two looking at them. That set of Hagens of Crenshaw's look like they're ancient; and those Wilsons of Langer's were in the bag for years. That Masters-winning (and multiple tournament-winning) bag would probably have fetched about fifty quid in a second hand bin.

 

Nowadays, everyone's chopping and changing clubs every five minutes owing to sponsor's requirements to play a particular brand and the latest clubs, and you don't see old faithfuls like that anymore.

 

I remember Faldo once talking about his old MacGregor driver and how he mollycoddled it as 'once you found one you liked you didn't want to risk changing the shaft or anything in case you ruined it...' Nowadays, everybody's out with half a dozen drivers and the Trackman every week trying to launch it 0.1 degrees higher to gain a couple of yards of extra carry...

 

How things change.

[vandercharks]

I remember seeing those Maruman Conductors like Ollie and Woosie was using on that auction site some time back...in mint condition no less. The pros played some pure gems back then.

[SDGolfing]

All Metal woods should have been banned years ago..

Woods are called woods for a reason... they are supposed to be made of wood..

 

Could you imagine if Major League Baseball went to aluminum bats or even worse, titanium bats...

and to top it off, made the bats as wide around as grapefruits? Then every second baseman could hit

100 plus homers a year and break Ruths records..

 

Welcome to the USGA..

 

I can't believe they allowed this to happen..

 

they sold out the game...

 

pathetic..

And irons aren't made out of iron anymore so let's change that as well!

 

Your sentiments do ring true though. Only the other day I was speaking to the creator of this thread regarding the death of ball striking. Everyone fears long irons now and anyone born after 1985 probably hasn't hit a wooden headed driver!

 

The fact is though that they all play with the same equipment. No-one has an advantage of another because of what they use. Courses have gotten longer and more difficult to accomodate and as a result, scores haven't dramatically reduced in the last 20 years. Add to that the fact that modern equipment has allowed more people to play the game and then all of a sudden, it's not such a bad thing.

 

Great pics by the way. Another chance to reminisce on when men were men and still hit long irons.

 

The bore-through deep face wasn't made specifically for Tiger but you didn't see many of them about. I want to say that Payne Stewart used one for a short time but I could be wrong. I believe Cobra produced a limited number of comemorative versions after Tigers '97 Masters win.

 

Come on. It is called technology. It is the same reason that Tennis players don't use wooden rackets, basketball players don't play with converse's, football players play with lighter more advanced pads, instant replays exist in multipe sports and so on and so on. The death of ball striking? Try telling Nick Watney that or Boo Weekly. These are two guys who flat out struggle putting and still get it done because they hit so many greens.

Do they fear long irons? Tiger Woods sure doesn't. Don't forget his driver up until a few years ago was basically a 6.5 degree spinny head with a xxx stiff 3 wood shaft. Bubba Watson sure doesn't. Vijay Singh, Adam Scott etc etc etc. Reality of the situation is not that they fear them it is that 5 woods and hybrids are easier to hit and way more efficient from the rough. If it is legal and lowers your scores why wouldnt you play them?

Truth of the matter is like you stated technological advances have helped the game become more main stream and have injected tons of money back into the game. It is a lot easier to have these big purses and tournament with sponsors like Callaway, Nike etc.

You cannot CHANGE a baseball stadium like you can CHANGE a golf course. To say that they are setting records because of equipment is just ridiculous. Like the above poster said the score in many ways at majors at least are actually HIGHER!!!!!

 

Lastly hate to break it to you but if you think the balls are the same ones they are using in baseball your out of your mind. You want to blame something blame the ability for these guys to work there asses off in the off season and get in great shape. The babe was known for beers and hot dogs not creatine and chicken breasts.

[villa]

I remember seeing those Maruman Conductors like Ollie and Woosie was using on that auction site some time back...in mint condition no less. The pros played some pure gems back then.

I used to have a set in the early 90's, I loved those irons. They were difficult to get hold of back then but they're like rocking horse sh*t now.

 

Olazabal's actually had quite a bit of offset on them. When Olazabal joined Macgregor, I read a quote by Don White (clubmaker and god) saying that he had to blend in as much offset into his irons as a set of Big Bertha's.

[Titleist1455]

All Metal woods should have been banned years ago..

Woods are called woods for a reason... they are supposed to be made of wood..

 

Could you imagine if Major League Baseball went to aluminum bats or even worse, titanium bats...

and to top it off, made the bats as wide around as grapefruits? Then every second baseman could hit

100 plus homers a year and break Ruths records..

 

Welcome to the USGA..

 

I can't believe they allowed this to happen..

 

they sold out the game...

 

pathetic..

 

Then don't watch and don't participate in the game (or this board) if you think it's "PATHETIC"

 

I'm pretty sure they've made the courses just a little bit harder...so it's not like these guys are shooting in the 50's on a regular basis. Scores at Augusta just last year were at an all time high!!

 

chill out...

[teespoon]

Thanks for the pics. Great old clubs. MP-14's are keepers. Still my favorite.

[rankoutsider]

i had my mizuno tour provens at the range today. nice clubs. i just reshafted them and they might become my gamers.

[gpo]

I love seeing the Staffs.

[ragu421]

Cool find mate! Wow those clubs look mean!! :clapping:

 

I'm glad that I still keep a set of the MP-14 whose serial number on the ferrule is 07770 - very special; an entire set of 2-PW. I lef tthis set together with my old-school vokey wedges in Shanghai for business rounds.

 

MP-14 is definitely one of the classic sets that are difficult to play hahaha

I actually used to play a set of MP-14's.I loved 'em until I got hurt and lost some swing speed.I def. liked them better than the "butter knife" MP-29's.The MP-14's had a "smidge" of offset which I liked very much whereas the MP-29 was a "straight up" scratch players club.ZERO forgiveness in the 29's but the MP-14's were a little "kinder".They should still make the MP-14's I think.

[ragu421]

All Metal woods should have been banned years ago..

Woods are called woods for a reason... they are supposed to be made of wood..

 

Could you imagine if Major League Baseball went to aluminum bats or even worse, titanium bats...

and to top it off, made the bats as wide around as grapefruits? Then every second baseman could hit

100 plus homers a year and break Ruths records..

 

Welcome to the USGA..

 

I can't believe they allowed this to happen..

 

they sold out the game...

 

pathetic..

Whaaaaat? WOW! Ive never heard this statement before.Whats in YOUR bag? Surely you arent still hitting "wood" woods?

[joecollege]

They should still make the MP-14's I think.

 

I'll second that. Still have my set in the office and very tempted to regrip and play .....and put the Cally's in the office.

[sweeet]

Anyone know what that Cobra wedge in Crenshaw's bag is? I found a wedge like that in my basement but it's wrapped in dings and scratches. I played with it yesterday and still spins quite well..but I forgot what it used to be called.

[sweeet]

Anyone know what that Cobra wedge in Crenshaw's bag is? I found a wedge like that in my basement but it's wrapped in dings and scratches. I played with it yesterday and still spins quite well..but I forgot what it used to be called.

bump?

[63Brummie]

Those signature Greg Norman blades are beautiful, have you been playing them long?

I understand that you're a contemporary of Lee Westwood, what's you take on the Ryder Cup heckling?

63Brummie :clapping:

fairways and greens

[mat562]

I'll PM you mate. :clapping:

[Jack lives here]

I played MP 11s for sixteen years. When the swing was on these are as good as it gets.

 

Also had the old McGregor driver long after metal woods became popular.

 

Lets be quite frank about a couple of things here.

 

Tigers irons are little different from the ones made thirty years ago, and without getting into a debate closely resemble the Mizunos he used as an ameteur. Tiger would also have a lot of fun with an old McGregor driver and the way you could move the ball either way with them, like Faldo.

 

In the old days the tour pros found what they loved and then kept itin the bag for years.

 

Todays tour pros play, or at least have labelled, their sponsors clubs, so old blokes like me with old swings buy them.....and I do buy them because now I need forgiveness over purist.

[ewfnick]

I couldnt agree more

[epevoto]

"Add to that the fact that modern equipment has allowed more people to play the game and then all of a sudden, it's not such a bad thing."

 

Red Herring.

[hos]

Great pics. Let's not start this into an argumentative thread, instead someone find more of those pics. I love nostalgia. I just never know which old school bag is going out in the evening.

[aytee]

Anyone know what that Cobra wedge in Crenshaw's bag is? I found a wedge like that in my basement but it's wrapped in dings and scratches. I played with it yesterday and still spins quite well..but I forgot what it used to be called.

 

cobra used to have trusty rusty wedge not sure if it was that time or later