Ping i20 Moderator review - The Driver

[Asleep]

Unexpected goodness

This is a continuation of my i20 series review begun here: Ping i20 Moderator review --- "You're gonna need a bigger boat" ***First date*** and a new Ping customized bag

Honestly, I've never really been a Ping driver guy. Not that I disliked Ping's products -- I actually wanted a few in the past. But in the end, I was just never moved enough to commit to buying and bagging one of their drivers. I came close with the very good Rapture V2. But comparing it to my then 9015D, the V2 couldn't beat it on the launch monitor. And I didn't see the sneaky long rollout I was getting with the 9015D. Same with the G15: similar launch monitor numbers, but real world I was a bit further from the pin. Not ... quite ... there...



Enter the i20. Where the G20 head had more "junk in the trunk" than I prefer, the i20 looks just right to me. I do like the flat black paint. It seems durable, too, as a friend's son caught one on the margin of the face/paint for a popup when I let him try the driver with no resulting visible chipping. (Sometimes that shows up down the road, we'll see). I'd prefer to not have the half-moon alignment aid on top, but it blends in for the most part. Paint & alignment aids don't affect performance, anyway.

I requested the Graphite Design Tour AD-DI shaft for a few reasons. Richard and others had talked this shaft up for quite some time now. Hearing higher launch and knowing about the low spin characteristics of the i20, I felt the synergy would work.



Sound and feel with the i20 is nothing short of fantastic. I'm always referring back to my favorite S&F driver, the Tour issue R510TP "Titanium on the toe" for comparison. The 510s had weight ports, remember, but many tour heads ended up with some rat glue in them to recreate the sound/feel that had become preferred then.The i20 gets as close as any to that solid, muted thwack! sound I prefer. Ping nailed it here (hear?). Spot on.

Launch is a bit low compared to the 9015D, lower compared to the R11TP & MachSpeed Black, and much lower compared to RBZ Tour. This head is spec'd at 9.5*, compared to 9* or 9.5* in the others. This makes sense, because...

The i20 driver is a low spin monster!

I'm a higher spin player, always looking for help with lowering my spin. Why? For me, I think it's because I'm not a great ball-striker. More glancing blow, more spin. For many here, it's that plus added swingspeed. More speed, more spin. Whatever the cause, the i20 fixes it. Period. So much so that many will be able to go up in loft with good results. For me, the i20/AD DI knocked my spin down by about 10% over the 9015D/Altus -- 300 rpm.



I need more on course to fully gauge performance. I'm hitting low draw rockets with this driver, which are appropriate for my swing at this time. I played a hit 'n giggle (scramble) the other day using only a 90* to 90* swing -- working on a feel -- and I was out there 240/250 all day (2nd place). Well past my usual yardages with that drill. The ball really jumps off the face of the i20.

This is my first dance with the AD DI, and it is as advertised: higher launch/lower spin. The DI-6S (stiff) has a bit more waggle in the tip than I'm used to and may not suit everyone. If you like a shaft with a loady feel, this is it for you. Ping's own TFC 707D has less of that tip waggle feel with similar low spin and a bit lower launch -- good shaft. I might investigate the Kiyoshi as well: the guys at Redstone Golf Club have been talking up that shaft for months.



Short Par 5 into a 25 mph wind that was maybe 15 degrees from being directly into us. I neck a poor one left and hand the i20 to my buddy Tom to try. Tom's swing was grooved all day, and he can put it out there 280-290 when he's on & not over-spinning it. He caught it flush with just a slight bit of fade for the dogleg right and his drive held a straight low line into the hard, crossing wind ending up 270 yards from the tee. That ball was a good 15+ paces past his Ping Rapture V2/Blueboard drive he'd powdered out there just before.

"Wow. I wasn't expecting that" he said with wide eyes.

Unexpected goodness, Tom ... unexpected goodness. :beach:

More to come...

full disclosure: Ping provided the driver for review

[scottvw13]

Nice review!

Based on the 240/250 comment, it looks like your SS is somewhere around 100MPH. How does that shaft feel at that SS?

[Asleep]

[quote name='scottvw13' timestamp='1331070745' post='4450171']Based on the 240/250 comment, it looks like your SS is somewhere around 100MPH. How does that shaft feel at that SS?[/quote]
The AD DI-6s does have some "waggle" in the tip that some who prefer a more rigid feel may not like. I can see tipping it a bit. Performance wise, though, it is as advertised.

[golfware]

Sweet sweet review. Oh man. That looks real sharp. Real sharp indeed.

[GooseHook]

Asleep, in my testing with both my older TM and both 910 heads last year, I can't recommend the Kiyoshi enough. It beat out the AD-Di for me in all three heads.

Longest, most stanble shaft put there, and I might just put one in my G20.

[Sean2]

Thanks for the review. I have a Ping nFlight fitting on Thursday and am looking forward to hitting this driver as I have a tendency to generate a lot of spin.

[MtlJeff]

the Ping I15 was my least favorite driver ever. I've never seen anything more fade biased unless you count Karl Malone's play down the stretch of basketball games. I also didn't spin it lower then a few other drivers even with an XPP8. I would hit balls out of bounds, then get upset and take a swing at the tee marker, which would end up out of bounds.

long story short, is the I20 fade biased?

[finalist]

I'm surprised you found the paint to be durable. I've checked out the i20 line of woods at two big stores locally and the plastic sales racks are scratching the paint big time. Although it probably doesn't matter since we don't carry them in our bags like that.

[golfnmudd]

[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1331083690' post='4451685']
the Ping I15 was my least favorite driver ever. I've never seen anything more fade biased unless you count Karl Malone's play down the stretch of basketball games. I also didn't spin it lower then a few other drivers even with an XPP8. I would hit balls out of bounds, then get upset and take a swing at the tee marker, which would end up out of bounds.

long story short, is the I20 fade biased?
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I too am wondering the same thing. I have never had a problem hitting a draw, but when I had an i15 I could hit nothing but tight cuts... Get slightly lazy and, whoa!....right of earth lol!

But I loved the look of it

[DigDugDig]

the Ping I15 was my least favorite driver ever. I've never seen anything more fade biased unless you count Karl Malone's play down the stretch of basketball games. I also didn't spin it lower then a few other drivers even with an XPP8. I would hit balls out of bounds, then get upset and take a swing at the tee marker, which would end up out of bounds.

 

long story short, is the I20 fade biased?

 

Karl Malone is going to come up to Kanada and pick n roll all over you! No one makes fun of Karl Malone!

 

Great review! That is one snappy looking driver. I've just recently started to audition the i15 driver with a Project X and, like mtljeff said, it is very fade biased, which, personally, I dig. For me the G10 kicked my 9015D out of the bag thanks to a bit more forgiveness.

 

I love that the stock i20 looks like something that would come out of ROBOPTI's laboratory...

 

I was planning on holding out for the New Cleveland Mashie Niblick Robocop Driver (it's SOOO deep faced!), but the i20 is looking like it might steal a few nickels from the Cleveland fund....

[Asleep]

long story short, is the I20 fade biased?

No, the i20 driver is not fade biased.

 

The i15 was fade biased, no doubt, but Ping went a different direction ( pun intended ) with this i20 -- straight. :D

 

Think of it as stillgoing ... stillgoing ... biased. :lol:

[pdaero]

The i20 is SO sick, but I want to try some heavier shafts in it to really get a good perspective. However, it'll be hard to knock out my Rapture V2, especially since I added some lead tape which increased the SW and lowered the spin a little.

[tpariff]

I only have one round and some range time with my I20 w/ VTS Silver combo but so far so good. I've hit some absolute bombs with it. Now if I can just get rid of this pinched sciatic nerve.....

Kevin

[jeonmin]

I really enjoyed reading the review! Awesome job man

[MG 1977]

I've demo'd the I20 at the range and on course. The range was a 9.5 head with the stock Ping shaft. The feel & sound are superb, the flight was high but it came down too steep for me. I hit it against an RBZ and the RBZ hit just as high but with less spin. However I much prefered the look of the I20 and decided to follow up on it. Yesterday at my club I asked my Pro if he had a demo I20 in. He only had a 10.5 degree head but had a RIP'd NV stiff for it. I took it out for 9 holes and hit it very well. It still went way to hihg but accuracy & feel was superb. I dont think it's the longest head I've ever hit but it's amongst the best looking, best sounding and best feeling driver I've hit in a long time. I got a lot of centre contact with this driver. I believe that if I order a 8.5 degree I will hit it as far as anything else I've tried, I do believe I need 8.5 as I dont agree with the comments I've read regards the I20 which says it's a very low spin head, unless the Ping shaft and RIP'd NV are high spin shafts? I'm unable to access Pig's website, i'd like to know what shafts are available as stock and how much the upcharge options are.

[SlowRain]

[quote name='MG 1977' timestamp='1331108375' post='4453823']
I've demo'd the I20 at the range and on course. The range was a 9.5 head with the stock Ping shaft. The feel & sound are superb, the flight was high but it came down too steep for me. I hit it against an RBZ and the RBZ hit just as high but with less spin. However I much prefered the look of the I20 and decided to follow up on it. Yesterday at my club I asked my Pro if he had a demo I20 in. He only had a 10.5 degree head but had a RIP'd NV stiff for it. I took it out for 9 holes and hit it very well. It still went way to hihg but accuracy & feel was superb. I dont think it's the longest head I've ever hit but it's amongst the best looking, best sounding and best feeling driver I've hit in a long time. I got a lot of centre contact with this driver. I believe that if I order a 8.5 degree I will hit it as far as anything else I've tried, I do believe I need 8.5 as I dont agree with the comments I've read regards the I20 which says it's a very low spin head, unless the Ping shaft and RIP'd NV are high spin shafts? I'm unable to access Pig's website, i'd like to know what shafts are available as stock and how much the upcharge options are.
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Interesting experience. I actually was playing a 910D2 with a RIP in it. Not sure...probably me more than anything, but didn't really like the shaft feel. Today I went to a fitter and hit the i20 @ 8.5. There are two "stock" shafts, a Project X (black) and the Ping "TFC 707". Frankly I was surprised at the result. The Project X was to whippy for me with a mid-launch flex...guess it is not like the Project X Blue models. What surprised me was the Ping shaft...it was really pretty good! Was definitely a lower launch shaft, and with the 8.5 my spin was in the 2400 area with a launch angle of 13-14...better numbers than I was getting with the 910. Think perhaps the RIP just wasn't what I needed...as the Ping shaft performed and felt a lot better to me. Have always been a bit leery of "Ping's shafts" before...but they must have done something right this year.

As far as options, I am pretty sure Ping probably offers a wide variety of alternate choices...however for the price you would have to call them to find out...I am sure it depends on which shaft you decide you want.

[Asleep]

[quote name='tpariff' timestamp='1331095861' post='4453239']I only have one round and some range time with my I20 w/ VTS Silver combo but so far so good. I've hit some absolute bombs with it.[/quote]
What's the word on the Silver? How does it play in the i20 or compare to other familiar shafts?

[quote name='MG 1977' timestamp='1331108375' post='4453823']I'm unable to access Ping's website, i'd like to know what shafts are available as stock and how much the upcharge options are.[/quote]
Here's the Ping Custom Options link: http://www.ping.com/uploadedFiles/clubs/customize/PING_Custom_Options.pdf


[quote name='SlowRain' timestamp='1331138530' post='4455447']...as the Ping shaft performed and felt a lot better to me. Have always been a bit leery of "Ping's shafts" before...but they must have done something right this year.[/quote]
Yeah, don't underestimate Ping's 707D shaft. It's a performer that I think is going to be the best option for most -- might as well save $$$ if you can.

[Featherbed Bent]

I have the 9.5* with PX Black 6.5

I demoed a few exotic shafts (GD Tour AD-DI 6, Diamana White 73) and for my swing type/speed - the PX Black was launching it with a mid trajectory and low spin. A really great stock option, IMO. But the key was the light weight shaft - i was able to get a higher club head and ball speed with it. The other shafts launched it a bit too low for my taste.

In any event, PING has a real winner here.

It is a monster on the course - not just a bomber on the range. It just instills confidence at address. I only missed 2 fairways the other day (I am a 7) and they were barely off line. Averaged a legit 290 off the tee and hit a few over 300. And I could easily play a baby fade which is my preference.

Love the i20 Driver and the whole line!

[caller]

I am thinking about getting one with Tour Ad Di 7s to give it a try

[MG 1977]

[quote name='SlowRain' timestamp='1331138530' post='4455447']
[quote name='MG 1977' timestamp='1331108375' post='4453823']
I've demo'd the I20 at the range and on course. The range was a 9.5 head with the stock Ping shaft. The feel & sound are superb, the flight was high but it came down too steep for me. I hit it against an RBZ and the RBZ hit just as high but with less spin. However I much prefered the look of the I20 and decided to follow up on it. Yesterday at my club I asked my Pro if he had a demo I20 in. He only had a 10.5 degree head but had a RIP'd NV stiff for it. I took it out for 9 holes and hit it very well. It still went way to hihg but accuracy & feel was superb. I dont think it's the longest head I've ever hit but it's amongst the best looking, best sounding and best feeling driver I've hit in a long time. I got a lot of centre contact with this driver. I believe that if I order a 8.5 degree I will hit it as far as anything else I've tried, I do believe I need 8.5 as I dont agree with the comments I've read regards the I20 which says it's a very low spin head, unless the Ping shaft and RIP'd NV are high spin shafts? I'm unable to access Pig's website, i'd like to know what shafts are available as stock and how much the upcharge options are.
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Interesting experience. I actually was playing a 910D2 with a RIP in it. Not sure...probably me more than anything, but didn't really like the shaft feel. Today I went to a fitter and hit the i20 @ 8.5. There are two "stock" shafts, a Project X (black) and the Ping "TFC 707". Frankly I was surprised at the result. The Project X was to whippy for me with a mid-launch flex...guess it is not like the Project X Blue models. What surprised me was the Ping shaft...it was really pretty good! Was definitely a lower launch shaft, and with the 8.5 my spin was in the 2400 area with a launch angle of 13-14...better numbers than I was getting with the 910. Think perhaps the RIP just wasn't what I needed...as the Ping shaft performed and felt a lot better to me. Have always been a bit leery of "Ping's shafts" before...but they must have done something right this year.

As far as options, I am pretty sure Ping probably offers a wide variety of alternate choices...however for the price you would have to call them to find out...I am sure it depends on which shaft you decide you want.
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Contacted my local Ping rep via my Pro. The wait for a fitting at the Ping centre is too long for me to wait plus it'd be a 200 mile round trip so it looks like I'm going to have to order blind. I hit a 9.5 with the stock ping shaft quite well at the range although it seemed to come down steeply with too much spin. I'm not sure if I should order the Ping shaft in x keeping a 9.5 degree loft or go down to the 8.5 with the x flex shaft? Or upgrade to the RIP'd NV for an extra £30, that felt quite stable but hard to judge launch and spin in the 10.5 head I demo'd it in.... I'd love a BiMatrix shaft to put in here, I had one a few years back in a Titliets 905r and that was a great mid launch low spin combo.

Lots of people seem to be trying the Tour Ad Di 7, how much $$$ upcharge is that combo? My laptop wont display Ping's website or the link to the custom charts. Working nights tonight so will have a good look and read up tonight and probably order one tomorrow.

[Hifade]

Went through extensive launch monitor sessions the past few days. It came down to an 8.5* with a PX 6.5, an 8.5* with a PX 6.0 and a 9.5* with the PING 707D "S". Believe it or not, the numbers after 15 swings with each were very similar. I warmed up hitting about 50 balls first that we did not measure, then hit each driver below with 15 balls each that we did measure.

Here's what I saw as averages:

[u]9.5* with 707D "S"[/u]
Launch = 12.9
Spin = 2782
Ball Speed = 151.7
PTR = 148.7
Deviation = 7.8


[u]8.5* with PX 6.5[/u]
Launch = 13.6
Spin = 2673
Ball Speed = 151.7
PTR = 148.3
Deviation = 7.4


[u]8.5* with PX 6.0[/u]
Launch = 13.6
Spin = 2640
Ball Speed = 152.3
PTR = 149.4
Deviation = 7.9

The PX 6.5 actually felt, marginally, the best. I got the best overall numbers with the PX 6.0 but not by much. They were, actually, all pretty similar. My decision came down to which one I liked the set-up best, which one produced the best overall, most consistent and tightest deviation (all R's) and which one I consistently hit in the center (PTR). I went with the 8.5* with the PX 6.0. Now I have a couple OBAN Kyoshi's I'm going to experiment with. We'll see.

[MG 1977]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Qrk9Ndk6g"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Qrk9Ndk6g[/url]

Interesting video. The editor of a UK Golf Mag. He went to Ping's fitting centre to get fitted for the I20. His old gamer is a Rapture V2 with Diamana BlueBoard. He doesn't swing that fast but interesting to see that the Project X Black spun a lot less in the I20 than the Ping shaft for him. I'm mulling over a 9.5 with PX 6.5 after seeing that video. Not sure I want to pay for upgrades & not sure i want to go down to 8.5 degree cos it will probably lead to a little less accuracy. anybody hit the PX in 6.5?

[MG 1977]

[quote name='Hifade' timestamp='1331145176' post='4456233']
Went through extensive launch monitor sessions the past few days. It came down to an 8.5* with a PX 6.5, an 8.5* with a PX 6.0 and a 9.5* with the PING 707D "S". Believe it or not, the numbers after 15 swings with each were very similar. I warmed up hitting about 50 balls first that we did not measure, then hit each driver below with 15 balls each that we did measure.

Here's what I saw as averages:

[u]9.5* with 707D "S"[/u]
Launch = 12.9
Spin = 2782
Ball Speed = 151.7
PTR = 148.7
Deviation = 7.8


[u]8.5* with PX 6.5[/u]
Launch = 13.6
Spin = 2673
Ball Speed = 151.7
PTR = 148.3
Deviation = 7.4


[u]8.5* with PX 6.0[/u]
Launch = 13.6
Spin = 2640
Ball Speed = 152.3
PTR = 149.4
Deviation = 7.9

The PX 6.5 actually felt, marginally, the best. I got the best overall numbers with the PX 6.0 but not by much. They were, actually, all pretty similar. My decision came down to which one I liked the set-up best, which one produced the best overall, most consistent and tightest deviation (all R's) and which one I consistently hit in the center (PTR). I went with the 8.5* with the PX 6.0. Now I have a couple OBAN Kyoshi's I'm going to experiment with. We'll see.
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Nice post and more food for thought. Think I'm leaning towards a PX shaft. How did the 8.5 and 9.5 compare in terms of accuracy?

[tpariff]

The VTS Silver in this head is awesome! I got "fit" via UST's web fitting program and it was the 2nd choice behind a $400 Attas. I figured I'd drop the extra $80 for the upgraded VTS without testing it on a LM. I only have one round with it so far (thanks to a pinched sciatic nerve) but here are my initial thoughts:

Feel: The VTS is very smooth. I won't say it feels loose when I waggle it, but the tip is a bit more active than others I currently play (YSQ st, Fubuki). During the swing it feels great, not loose at all.

Control: I was hitting baby draws all day with a nice medium trajectory. I hit my R11 / Fubuki combo a bit higher, but nothing dramatically different. I have the R11 set up neutral and the I20 is digitally lofted at 9.5*, so there's no more than 0.5* difference in loft.

Distance: This is where the VTS Silver / I20 really shines. I was hitting it in spots I've never seen before and hit one BOMB that surprised me. Without verifying on a LM I'm guessing the spin is a good bit lower on this combo and I'm getting more roll. Carry distance seems to be a bit improved too.

Again, only one round and some range time, but so far so good. I'm considering a G20 3 or 4 wood with a VTS Silver 7 S. The VTS is just that good.

Kevin

[pdaero]

Thanks for your review, Kevin! Gosh, that really makes me want to try one/think about ordering one. When I get the coin, you might just see that combo in the bag.

[Asleep]

[quote name='Hifade' timestamp='1331145176' post='4456233']Went through extensive launch monitor sessions the past few days....[/quote]
Great stuff, Jim ,,, thanks.


[quote name='MG 1977' timestamp='1331146708' post='4456369']...but interesting to see that the Project X Black spun a lot less in the I20 than the Ping shaft for him.[/quote]
For most, that will be the exception & not the norm. But shows why a fitting helps.


[quote name='tpariff' timestamp='1331147279' post='4456421']The VTS Silver in this head is awesome!...[/quote]
Thanks, Kevin. May have to look at that one.

[MG 1977]

[quote name='Asleep' timestamp='1331224759' post='4462029']
[quote name='Hifade' timestamp='1331145176' post='4456233']Went through extensive launch monitor sessions the past few days....[/quote]
Great stuff, Jim ,,, thanks.


[quote name='MG 1977' timestamp='1331146708' post='4456369']...but interesting to see that the Project X Black spun a lot less in the I20 than the Ping shaft for him.[/quote]
For most, that will be the exception & not the norm. But shows why a fitting helps.


[/quote]


Yes I know fitting is the key but I'm not able to demo the specs I want so its about reading other people experiances and watching clips like that on youtube. It is interesting that the PX had lower spin for HiFade and for the Editor in the clip when the Ping shaft is being touted as the lower spin option? However, I think I'm gonna get a 9.5 with the RIP'd NV as that shaft felt quite good in the demo I hit and it's not an expensive upgrade.... plus I'm a little aprehensive of going down to a 8.5 head without being able to demo one before hand.

[Gbyeball]

[quote name='MG 1977' timestamp='1331146708' post='4456369']
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Qrk9Ndk6g"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=H6Qrk9Ndk6g[/url]

Interesting video. The editor of a UK Golf Mag. He went to Ping's fitting centre to get fitted for the I20. His old gamer is a Rapture V2 with Diamana BlueBoard. He doesn't swing that fast but interesting to see that the Project X Black spun a lot less in the I20 than the Ping shaft for him. I'm mulling over a 9.5 with PX 6.5 after seeing that video. Not sure I want to pay for upgrades & not sure i want to go down to 8.5 degree cos it will probably lead to a little less accuracy. anybody hit the PX in 6.5?
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Wow great find thanks for sharing. He has the same gamer I do Rapture V2 10.5* with a BB in regular flex. I am in love with the look of the i20 and was wondering how it matched up with the Rapture. I will have to take a trip to Ping and do a side by side to see if the i20 gives better results. I heard the fitter say an increase of 5 yds carry ( no biggie) and he might have said 5 more on landing = roll, 10 more yards is pretty good.

[MG 1977]

[quote name='Gbyeball' timestamp='1331319150' post='4470929']
[quote name='MG 1977' timestamp='1331146708' post='4456369']
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Qrk9Ndk6g"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=H6Qrk9Ndk6g[/url]

Interesting video. The editor of a UK Golf Mag. He went to Ping's fitting centre to get fitted for the I20. His old gamer is a Rapture V2 with Diamana BlueBoard. He doesn't swing that fast but interesting to see that the Project X Black spun a lot less in the I20 than the Ping shaft for him. I'm mulling over a 9.5 with PX 6.5 after seeing that video. Not sure I want to pay for upgrades & not sure i want to go down to 8.5 degree cos it will probably lead to a little less accuracy. anybody hit the PX in 6.5?
[/quote]

Wow great find thanks for sharing. He has the same gamer I do Rapture V2 10.5* with a BB in regular flex. I am in love with the look of the i20 and was wondering how it matched up with the Rapture. I will have to take a trip to Ping and do a side by side to see if the i20 gives better results. I heard the fitter say an increase of 5 yds carry ( no biggie) and he might have said 5 more on landing = roll, 10 more yards is pretty good.



[/quote]

The reduction in spin was the biggest improvement, I imagine into the wind the I20 would be alot better for him than his V2 was.

[Gbyeball]

[quote name='MG 1977' timestamp='1331320310' post='4471057']
[quote name='Gbyeball' timestamp='1331319150' post='4470929']
[quote name='MG 1977' timestamp='1331146708' post='4456369']
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Qrk9Ndk6g"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=H6Qrk9Ndk6g[/url]

Interesting video. The editor of a UK Golf Mag. He went to Ping's fitting centre to get fitted for the I20. His old gamer is a Rapture V2 with Diamana BlueBoard. He doesn't swing that fast but interesting to see that the Project X Black spun a lot less in the I20 than the Ping shaft for him. I'm mulling over a 9.5 with PX 6.5 after seeing that video. Not sure I want to pay for upgrades & not sure i want to go down to 8.5 degree cos it will probably lead to a little less accuracy. anybody hit the PX in 6.5?
[/quote]

Wow great find thanks for sharing. He has the same gamer I do Rapture V2 10.5* with a BB in regular flex. I am in love with the look of the i20 and was wondering how it matched up with the Rapture. I will have to take a trip to Ping and do a side by side to see if the i20 gives better results. I heard the fitter say an increase of 5 yds carry ( no biggie) and he might have said 5 more on landing = roll, 10 more yards is pretty good.



[/quote]

The reduction in spin was the biggest improvement, I imagine into the wind the I20 would be alot better for him than his V2 was.
[/quote]

I agree his spin came down almost 1000 rpm, definetly makes a big difference in real world playing. It has got me very interested. And just when I vowed to stick with something that has been working well. A trip to check them about would not hurt, except maybe to my bank account.